I am not religious
at all
but all I can say is god help us
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=fA6XcyXsxXU
Staged theatrical nonsense
Why the "music" playing along with the video to make it more dramatic ?
Damn I hate religion, it's exactly why the world is busy fighting with itself instead of
people using common sense and understanding that there is no "God" - by whatever name
you give "it". If people don't realize this - our species is doomed.
Obviously that's where we're headed and what people want.
the point is the muslim migrants are saying it is "their country" now and is now an islamic country
this is what they are doing in europe
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 31, 06:32 PM 2016
the point is the muslim migrants are saying it is "their country" now and is now an islamic country
this is what they are doing in europe
Because it's being allowed to happen. You won't see that in the US trust me.
The world can point at us and call us names, but we don't tolerate this bullshit and political correctness that is destroying these countries.
Trump 2016 by the way :)
Build the wall, No more people coming here unless we know who they are.
Flush the toilette and get the waste out of here, simple.
The rest of the world can fight about what's "the right thing to do" and "don't offend anyone because that's wrong". Nonsense - look where it gets countries that do it.
i agree
no refugees
NOT because i am heartless or racist
not at all
but because i know their goal...and its not US constitution compatible
there are vigilante groups all over europe going after migrants that cause harm because the police wont
Yes the lion is slowly waking up, it needs a kick up the arse before it is too late, and perhaps it is too late.
Our millionaire prime minister, who lives in the countryside in his mansion, hasn’t a clue. He’ll keep us in the EU so more of the fcukers can come.
It’s gone full circle, but this time, who knows, when the Pakistani’s came and settled in Peterborough, the local white English people didn’t want them.
Now the east Europeans are taking over Peterborough, yes you’ve guessed it, the Pakistani’s don’t want them in the community, love that.
Everyone needs to become Humanists, no religion
Quote from: nottophammer on May 31, 06:42 PM 2016
Yes the lion is slowly waking up, it needs a kick up the arse before it is too late, and perhaps it is too late.
Our millionaire prime minister, who lives in the countryside in his mansion, hasn’t a clue. He’ll keep us in the EU so more of the fcukers can come.
It’s gone full circle, but this time, who knows, when the Pakistani’s came and settled in Peterborough, the local white English people didn’t want them.
Now the east Europeans are taking over Peterborough, yes you’ve guessed it, the Pakistani’s don’t want them in the community, love that.
Everyone needs to become Humanists, no religion
its sick
the liberal want to be tolerant
so they are tolerant
then the muslim population takes over a town and THEY ARE NOT TOLERANT to the people who let them in
ass backwards and SICKENING
notto is this video true does this happen in england? muslim areas like this where they are racist against brits?
The more the rest of the world keeps going "left" - the worse this is going to get.
That same group could walk down the streets anywhere here in the US and not be bothered.
It's hard for me to respect a religion that's goal is to kill me. LOL (sorry, can't seem to have much ability to tolerate that).
I like the guy doing the "shhhh shhhh shhhhh" because we're all supposed to "fear" what might happen if you say the wrong thing about someone else's "God". Bullshit.
If you're religion states that 'we' are all supposed to die - take that "shhh shhh shhh" finger and shove it up your ass because you've already made your position clear.
just watched a video of migrant mobs in france
this is just terrible
this is not good....
destroying things and hurting people
Wouldn't happen in Texas lol
I wonder why ?
Oh wait, I know why. :)
Quote from: TurboGenius on May 31, 06:51 PM 2016
Wouldn't happen in Texas lol
I wonder why ?
Oh wait, I know why. :)
or asia (china and japan) wonder why
Yes.
If an organisation wants to demonstrate you have to get permission, like when the army was marching through Luton, after Afghanistan celebrating coming back alive, what greeted them hordes of Muslims shouting abuse.
It’s alright for them to smash up wreaths of poppies for remembrance, graffiti over memorials, Police don’t do nothing to scared, like school teachers daren’t touch kids today, be up on a charge for assault.
This is why youth of today have no respect.
Quote from: nottophammer on May 31, 07:02 PM 2016
Yes.
If an organisation wants to demonstrate you have to get permission, like when the army was marching through Luton, after Afghanistan celebrating coming back alive, what greeted them hordes of Muslims shouting abuse.
It’s alright for them to smash up wreaths of poppies for remembrance, graffiti over memorials, Police don’t do nothing to scared, like school teachers daren’t touch kids today, be up on a charge for assault.
This is why youth of today have no respect.
i do see that here in the US with liberals
be nice to them they can pray in school, but Catholics NO WAY
for the record
I would be 100% for migration IF they assimilated
Europe is really in big trouble, most people are blind and ignorant
they don t see that *they* really will take over the Europe in the next 2 or 3 generations.
Europeans make 1 or 2 kids , the others make 4 +++, now isn t clear what happens ?
They received orders to to that ...take over Europe but not with war (guns,etc..) just
make lot of kids then in the next generations this kids will be already citizens with full
right , vote...
Europe is finished because *someone* want so , and its not about religion ,they use it only
like a facade , but the peons really belive what they do ..brain washed people....
Btw...*someone*= elite , and they also are only peons for *others *
the end goal is to take over
as the man said in my video in the 1st post
I don’t understand why the Muslim women, put up with being treated like second class citizens, the Muslim male seems to think he can paw white girls, but look what there’s have to wear.
If a Muslim male has an affair and they get caught, who gets the punishment, the woman, probably be stoned to death, what does the Muslim male get?
The Muslim boys are two faced in the disco they leer at the white girls in their white heels and short skirts, but if any of their girls are out dressed that way and a white youth tries to talk, world war three.
Quote from: Kattila on May 31, 07:13 PM 2016
Europe is really in big trouble, most people are blind and ignorant
they don t see that *they* really will take over the Europe in the next 2 or 3 generations.
Europeans make 1 or 2 kids , the others make 4 +++, now isn t clear what happens ?
They received orders to to that ...take over Europe but not with war (guns,etc..) just
make lot of kids then in the next generations this kids will be already citizens with full
right , vote...
Europe is finished because *someone* want so , and its not about religion ,they use it only
like a facade , but the peons really belive what they do ..brain washed people....
Btw...*someone*= elite , and they also are only peons for *others *
i do not know why this is being allowed to happen
powers at be are not stupid
probably too late to change this country now, but we were warned by Enoch Powell MP, he said the streets will run with blood, 20 April 1968 did they listen
russia here i come
LOL
RG, about powers...
Some are the *dogs * of the elite, and the others don t care, just care about money, then
few others are good people with good intention but can do nothing alone....
as an agnostic person it is sad to see a large group of the liberal left defend islam but bash catholics
it MAKES NO SENSE
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 31, 07:35 PM 2016
as an agnostic person it is sad to see a large group of the liberal left defend islam but bash catholics
it MAKES NO SENSE
Religion makes no sense.
i have no words for the videos i have watched tonight
germany
sweden
france
england
it is stomach turning
QuoteBecause it's being allowed to happen. You won't see that in the US trust me.
The world can point at us and call us names, but we don't tolerate this bullshit and political correctness that is destroying these countries.
Trump 2016 by the way :)
Build the wall, No more people coming here unless we know who they are.
Flush the toilette and get the waste out of here, simple.
The rest of the world can fight about what's "the right thing to do" and "don't offend anyone because that's wrong". Nonsense - look where it gets countries that do it.
Unfortunately it is beginning to happen here. It has moved in under the guises of "inclusiveness", "political correctness", and "safe zones". (Safe zones...sound familiar? Even this forum has one that's led by RG.) Toooooo many people are more worried about being viewed as progressive and inclusive that they all too often toss common sense and logic out the window.
Quote from: The General on May 31, 07:40 PM 2016
(Safe zones...sound familiar? Even this forum has one that's led by RG.)
i am so anti PC you have no idea what the hell you are talking about
asking you to not regurgitate the same thing over and over on every forum in every thread does not mean i need a safe zone, just means i dont like a-holes, which you so often are. Pal.
dont stomp around in this thread either go start your own
What we want is a big fcuk off space ship to turn up, start eating us; boy would religion go out the window
The safe zones were created so that people don't have to truly integrate, and so that they don't have to hear opposing points of view. Unfortunately these no go zones are now growing hot spots for hiding terrorists in EU.
Quote from: The General on May 31, 07:40 PM 2016
Unfortunately it is beginning to happen here. It has moved in under the guises of "inclusiveness", "political correctness", and "safe zones". (Safe zones...sound familiar? Even this forum has one that's led by RG.) Toooooo many people are more worried about being viewed as progressive and inclusive that they all too often toss common sense and logic out the window.
Quote from: The General on May 31, 08:00 PM 2016
The safe zones were created so that people don't have to truly integrate, and so that they don't have to hear opposing points of view. Unfortunately these no go zones are now growing hot spots for hiding terrorists in EU.
OMG I find myself agreeing with you General. I am seeing that you really do have something to say worth hearing when you stop repeating the same stuff over and over. This comment probably wont be seen for weeks, but hey, I said it.
Well, I say f*ck this crap. BAN all public manifestations of relligion! Criminalize any public religious acts or talks religious related. All of them! You can have any relligion you want - inside your home only. And that's more then enough.
In the end, all this people have lack of faith. If they truelly believed their all powerfull deities, they should know it's all "god's work" and really have no need of "spreading the word" into others and talk about it all the time, or pray, or whatever turns you on religiously speaking - whatever god they have chosen. But they don't trust it, they have in reality no faith at all and try to influence the outcomes in any way they can- as if an all powerfull god would change opinion for what stupid mortals think the world should be anyway...
We still live in a free world, and of course, you can have a religion if you want to. But you can compare believing in a god or whatever you want AND having a relligion on top of it as one beying the richest man in the world, and still going to play roullette, trying to earn some more money out of it...
My 2 cents.
Quote from: vladir on May 31, 08:42 PM 2016
Well, I say f*ck this crap. BAN all public manifestations of relligion! Criminalize any public religious acts or talks religious related. All of them! You can have any relligion you want - inside your home only. And that's more then enough.
OK that would be cool
and the liberal left imposes this but gives "them" a free pass
Quote from: vladir on May 31, 08:42 PM 2016Well, I say f*ck this crap. BAN all public manifestations of relligion! Criminalize any public religious acts or talks religious related. All of them! You can have any relligion you want - inside your home only. And that's more then enough.
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING.
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=a1r0B4Bnc7o
Quote from: Kattila on May 31, 07:13 PM 2016
Europe is really in big trouble, most people are blind and ignorant
they don t see that *they* really will take over the Europe in the next 2 or 3 generations.
Europeans make 1 or 2 kids , the others make 4 +++, now isn t clear what happens ?
They received orders to to that ...take over Europe but not with war (guns,etc..) just
make lot of kids then in the next generations this kids will be already citizens with full
right , vote...
Europe is finished because *someone* want so , and its not about religion ,they use it only
like a facade , but the peons really belive what they do ..brain washed people....
Btw...*someone*= elite , and they also are only peons for *others *
Most of the world is in big trouble and most people are slaves to the system, until everyone wakes up (probably won't happen until too late) nothing will change.
We are all controlled by a few, just most don't even realise it.
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jg8EeL7zD8
the violence i have seen tonight
the muslim children saying they dont speak to fellow german children because they disgust them
watching interviews of them stating their goal to take over
i am sick to my stomach and i dont know why i subjected myself to it
no words for what i saw on youtube tonight
most definitely not propaganda its happening all over that continent
i will tell you one thing, american police won't play that game
If you go to a safe zone, then you don't have to hear the truth because it's blocked/filtered for you.
Quote from: The General on May 31, 09:57 PM 2016
If you go to a safe zone, then you don't have to hear the truth because it's blocked/filtered for you.
Nanny state comes to mind.
Quote from: The General on May 31, 09:57 PM 2016
If you go to a safe zone, then you don't have to hear the truth because it's blocked/filtered for you.
(link:s://media.giphy.com/media/GxGP0zJsu1m2k/giphy.gif)
Nobody is born with a religion. We get brainwashed with that crap. But if we're older we should know that nobody splits the ocean in two or turn water into wine. Must been strong weed they smoked back in the day. Lol
About those Muslims. ..go back where you came from. There's gonna happen something huge herre...but probably to late.
Quote from: denzie on May 31, 11:01 PM 2016
Nobody is born with a religion. We get brainwashed with that crap. But if we're older we should know that nobody splits the ocean in two or turn water into wine. Must been strong weed they smoked back in the day. Lol
About those Muslims. ..go back where you came from. There's gonna happen something huge herre...but probably to late.
Agree
And the US wont take warning. They will be here soon
Not here on the forum though. Allah doesn't let them gamble
Quote from: vladir on May 31, 08:42 PM 2016Well, I say f*ck this crap. BAN all public manifestations of relligion! Criminalize any public religious acts or talks religious related. All of them! You can have any relligion you want - inside your home only. And that's more then enough.
Sounds very familiar. ....anyone who doesnt comply...we can put them in an orange jump suit...parade them on tv then behead them...live.
We can get Ant and Dec with Devina Mcall to host the show
Im sure Simon Cowel already owns the format
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 31, 11:02 PM 2016
And the US wont take warning. They will be here soon
I thought Trump was going to ban them if he gets in. Or has he toned down the rhetoric on that? I don't see how it would be enforceable anyway.
Its very sad
You help because you want to help
Then after several years when they are in large numbers thats when things get ugly
Really has to stop
Its not all of course. But enough of them
Quote from: Bayes on Jun 01, 03:41 AM 2016
I thought Trump was going to ban them if he gets in. Or has he toned down the rhetoric on that? I don't see how it would be enforceable anyway.
The US may have to storm the beaches of normandy again
Quote from: PeaBea65 on May 31, 09:23 PM 2016
Most of the world is in big trouble and most people are slaves to the system, until everyone wakes up (probably won't happen until too late) nothing will change.
We are all controlled by a few, just most don't even realise it.
Well said! The people are the problem because they are too easily duped. But whenever we try to alert a fellow citizen that somebody is enslaving them the sheeple then turn on us, attempt to ridicule us and become overly hostile to the point of excommunicating or imposing emotional/physical abuse. And this could be in light of superior evidence that results in Cognitive Dissonance on their part. So, once again, the ignorant people are the problem since most humans are evil, easily controlled, and driven by power more than truth - due to emotional wounds developed from childhood. When you see somebody offering to carry a woman's luggage or help an old lady across the road, don't assume they are good - they do it to feed their ego and get a good feeling inside. Likewise they mix up good with evil so that their evil blows are more confusing and effective - alternate doses of venom. The populace will never wake up because they are part of the problem.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jun 01, 07:17 AM 2016The people are the problem because they are too easily duped
well clearly not everyone is easily duped as members here reported Jbudd32's PM's to me as a scam
During the month of May 2016 the United States admitted 1,037 Syrian refugees:
2 Christians and 1, 035 Muslims .
According to Drudge Report 6/1/2016 .
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 01, 10:09 AM 2016
During the month of May 2016 the United States admitted 1,037 Syrian refugees:
2 Christians and 1, 035 Muslims .
According to Drudge Report 6/1/2016 .
Over Memorial Day weekend (here in the US) i learned from a descendant of a Polish immigrant that Poles were required to denounce the German Kaiser before being allowed to immigrate. This must have been even before Hitler. It's because Germany claimed parts of Poland, and apparently, some Poles gave allegiance.
The point is that there is precedence to require tests of allegiance from immigrants.
Recently Sweden was about to reject an immigrant from Egypt, provoking him to denounce Islam as well as certain Egyptian authorities, which he did on YouTube, in hopes of getting in. Haven't heard the result of it except that a lot of citizens offer him support. But it's quite possible that Sweden only wants to import allies of Islam, against the wishes of the average citizen.
Given that U.S. school children are required to recite the "Pledge of Allegiance" daily, it seems the obvious thing to require of immigrants, especially touching upon their attitudes toward issues of national security.
Since Muslim on Muslim terror is probably more prevalent than any other kind of terror, one would think that countries interested in becoming sanctuaries would discriminate between Muslims who want to enslave others (for example, men who want to enslave women), and Muslims who want to escape slavery.
This not being the case, the injections and invasions do seem deliberately orchestrated by well-funded special interest groups. I recently learned that charitable groups facilitating the injection of Muslims into the U.S. are largely Christian in denomination. Why? Money is probably the biggest factor in the equation. Somebody is giving away money to citizens (groups of citizens) to sponsor Muslims untested for allegiance.
Another example: A decades running hotel in Germany closed down overnight in order to accommodate immigrants instead of regular hotel business. Why? Somebody, or some group, with money, is replacing the hotel's income, guaranteed, year upon year, to turn it's facilities over to immigrants, permanently displacing employees who had been loyal to the hotel for decades, and visa versa. Where is that money coming from?
Who has this kind of money?
So i propose that attention be given to follow the money trail to find out who is most interested in using their own money (or taxpayer money) to inject un-vetted immigrants into the world's democracies. Actually, the stats support the idea that these immigrants have already been vetted, so long as they show allegiance to Islam, a political ideology more than a religion, and a religion more than a race.
That said, i'd like to step back from the trees in hopes of seeing the forest for a minute.
A few weeks ago i did as RG has done, overdosed (as much as i could stomach) on the mass ingratitude coming from prior hospitality seekers (immigrants) and their second gen descendants who are now claiming various countries for their forefathers political ideologies, which run contrary to their host countries established value systems.
I should be paid $60 an hour to analyze these psychological issues so i generally don't say much about it. Philosophically, i have concluded that Islam is Christian satire.
Yes, SATIRE: link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire
Whatever the motives of followers, I'm convinced it was the motive of Mohammed, as the most personally profitable approach to personal existence in a desert landscape.
But the motives of Mohammed may not have been entirely personal. His motives were an extension of the motives of Allah, the god of this world, so-to-speak. I say "god of this world" to include any other "god" that is said to have made the bees, trees and seas. Whatever made the bees, trees and seas: it's motive is self-profit via SATIRE.
The prime target of god-level satire is REALITY. I hope it is obvious that satire is not the reality itself, but does mock reality. The synonyms of mockery include: fake, faux, insult, parody, simulation.
I'm saying that the bees, trees and seas are aspects of mockery...an expression of satire. Going a step further, the making of man is an aspect of mockery, especially when man is said to be made "in the image of god". But this is a core value in the Christian belief system.
Christian allegiance to the maker of the bees, trees and seas is indeed ridiculous, and worthy of ridicule. Islam performs that function, via satire, and demands to be paid for it.
So, stepping toward a solution (salvation), i recommend that Christians renounce allegiance to the god of this world, the one that makes the trees, bees and seas...and man. It's about removing the yuge beam in one's own eye, before removing the satirical speck in your brothers eye...or suffer the consequences.
Now, atheists, presumably have done this, but no, not as long as they continue to believe in the bees, trees and seas themselves!
Alas, this world is a religion, requiring belief to survive. It get's plenty of belief from Christians, Pagans, Muslims and Atheists. Again, the trees bees and seas are not the REALITY, but rather aspects of SATIRE that goes AGAINST reality. The common ground here is that as mankind, we all go against REALITY.
Here's the problem. The target is REALITY. But the bombs fall upon people. Anyone, or anything that claims to be real...becomes a target. And not just a target of Islamic extremists: becomes a target of the god of this world, which is motivated to kill reality for it's own self-profit.
There are many subtle ways that people claim reality for themselves, extending the motives of the god of this world.
Cutting this discussion short, a step toward the solution (salvation) involves renunciation of allegiance to existence as a physical object, as though it was real...as though it is a "life". The reason is because any physical object is vulnerable to be killed, whereas reality itself is invulnerable. By identifying only as the reality itself, the person, once transformed, becomes invulnerable to death and it's ancillaries.
So this is a wake up call.
Still
Quote from: TurboGenius on May 31, 06:31 PM 2016
Staged theatrical nonsense
Why the "music" playing along with the video to make it more dramatic ?
Damn I hate religion, it's exactly why the world is busy fighting with itself instead of
people using common sense and understanding that there is no "God" - by whatever name
you give "it". If people don't realize this - our species is doomed.
Obviously that's where we're headed and what people want.
Amen! :thumbsup:
"Thank God" in our country, Croatia has exactly 17 Muslims, or wait 18? :lol:
Quote from: Still on Jun 01, 03:42 PM 2016
A few weeks ago i did as RG has done, overdosed (as much as i could stomach) on the mass ingratitude coming from prior hospitality seekers (immigrants) and their second gen descendants who are now claiming various countries for their forefathers political ideologies, which run contrary to their host countries established value systems.
I should be paid $60 an hour to analyze these psychological issues so i generally don't say much about it. Philosophically, i have concluded that Islam is Christian satire.
what was hardest for me to stomach was not the muslims themselves
i wish everyone could be welcomed anywhere in harmony, helping eachother
but in each country of europe in protests i heard muslim migrants say "we are taking over" "nothing u can do about it" "this is our country now"
walk through east london as a white person, you will not be welcome. and if you are they will tell you it is now an islamic country
that is their specific end goal
not ALL muslims are like this, but enough to worry
there is a US city in the midwest that WAS mostly Polish, muslims moved in, are now the majority and are now running the local government. when they won over the local government the muslims said "now we will show the polish". THAT IS SCARY
i realize in most countries where they migrate to they are fine. then when their population increases to a large amount they change drastically to "this is mine now"
its very sad to watch
i want to visit italy to see italian culture, vienna to see austrian culture, paris to see french culture. Not to see cities with "no go" muslim zones. europe is a beautiful place I want to see before these migrants destroy it all
and I do not see that happening on a large scale here in the US. I know where I live on Long Island people would stomp it before it every happened
link:s://:.washingtonpost.com/national/for-the-first-majority-muslim-us-city-residents-tense-about-its-future/2015/11/21/45d0ea96-8a24-11e5-be39-0034bb576eee_story.html
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 01, 06:50 PM 2016
but in each country of europe in protests i heard muslim migrants say "we are taking over" "nothing u can do about it" "this is our country now"
walk through east london as a white person, you will not be welcome. and if you are they will tell you it is now an islamic country
i realize in most countries where they migrate to they are fine. then when their population increases to a large amount they change drastically to "this is mine now"
RG, I have selectively quoted your comments, not to provoke, but to give an example.
Think about the
US and for that matter
Australia when they were first populated (invaded) by the English. Who were the first inhabitants and what has happened to them? These are just two examples in history, there are many many more.
We are not seeing anything new. The Muslims have just gotten smarter, but they are just doing the same thing the English and Europeans have done for hundreds of years, but in a different way. Until our governments get smarter and stop trying to please their puppet masters nothing will change. The little people always get hurt when the powers that run the world decide. Does anyone really know what the agenda of the puppet masters is?
You will probably never see this comment, because your protector(s) on here don't like to see you upset. Right Turner????
Quote from: PeaBea65 on Jun 01, 08:12 PM 2016We are not seeing anything new. The Muslims have just gotten smarter, but they are just doing the same thing the English and Europeans have done for hundreds of years, but in a different way.
That's actually a pretty good point lol
I'm sure the American Indians weren't on forums complaining about how we were invading their country and taking over - claiming that it was "ours" now and killing them by the hundred of thousands.
The problem there was that they didn't have the means to stop it - at least in this day and age we do - yet we do nothing about it and are doomed to the same fate. Good point.
I think it's important to realise that it's not just a few "terrorists" or "bad" Muslims that are responsible for the murders, but that it's built into the ideology.
In fact, it's the good Muslims who fly planes into buildings, not the bad ones. We can be thankful that most Muslims don't take their religion too seriously.
link:://:.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
Quote from: Bayes on Jun 02, 07:16 AM 2016
I think it's important to realise that it's not just a few "terrorists" or "bad" Muslims that are responsible for the murders, but that it's built into the ideology.
In fact, it's the good Muslims who fly planes into buildings, not the bad ones. We can be thankful that most Muslims don't take their religion too seriously.
link:://:.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
Your right
I saw interviews from east londen
The serious muslims said sharia law only and their goal was convert the world
The interviews of the moderates were not as crazy
After everything i have seen it is my personal belief that this is an invasion of the west
All the videos i saw of new refugees? Waves on men only
Quote from: Bayes on Jun 02, 07:16 AM 2016
I think it's important to realise that it's not just a few "terrorists" or "bad" Muslims that are responsible for the murders, but that it's built into the ideology.
In fact, it's the good Muslims who fly planes into buildings, not the bad ones. We can be thankful that most Muslims don't take their religion too seriously.
link:://:.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
Well I sure aint gonna hate all Long distance Truck drivers just because the Yorkshire Ripper was one.
I hate Man united and am a long life Man City fan, but that hatred is virtual and I never let it get out of my mind into reality.
Some football fans do, and go round beating up the opposing sides fans and organise fights.
Is football the cause?
Not in the slightest.
How you like De Bruyne so far ?
Quote from: denzie on Jun 02, 08:06 AM 2016
How you like De Bruyne so far ?
Absolutely awesome player...wish Kompany would stop breaking down though
Quote from: Turner on Jun 02, 08:21 AM 2016
Absolutely awesome player...wish Kompany would stop breaking down though
We wish that too... we need him in our national team :'(
Quote from: Turner on Jun 02, 07:58 AM 2016
Well I sure aint gonna hate all Long distance Truck drivers just because the Yorkshire Ripper was one.
I hate Man united and am a long life Man City fan, but that hatred is virtual and I never let it get out of my mind into reality.
Some football fans do, and go round beating up the opposing sides fans and organise fights.
Is football the cause?
Not in the slightest.
Agreed. But why are there no Christian/Buddhist/Jewish/Hindu terrorists? (or at least comparatively few). There's undeniably a connection between what their "good" book says and the behaviour of some, but there's no connection between truck driving and serial murdering. It just annoys me that the PC brigade deny any connection.
Quote from: Bayes on Jun 02, 08:34 AM 2016
Agreed. But why are there no Christian/Buddhist/Jewish/Hindu terrorists? (or at least comparatively few). There's undeniably a connection between what their "good" book says and the behaviour of some, but there's no connection between truck driving and serial murdering. It just annoys me that the PC brigade deny any connection.
Agreed, and its about interpretation I guess, and whos interpreting it, and for what purpose.
Rather like Jehovah's Witnesses and blood transfusion. Thats an interpretation of a book that other followers of the same book didnt interpret the same.
I am no Quran expert, but it may be more ambiguous and more open to interpretation...I dont know. I do know that the Quran does acknowledge other prophets such as Jesus.
Buddhism is known for passing information (Bible) through word of mouth and short sutras....so perhaps its less study and more practice, with less room for interpretation. Its just what it is.
Having said all that, the Crusades are still in the top list of heinous campaigns...all in the name of God
Why do these migrants think that they can just go anywhere they like and do what they like. Because politicians do nothing to stop them, that is until there is a public outcry and by then it is too late as witness what is happening right now across Europe and UK. It is OK by me having a few immigrants but we are being swamped by them and the worst part is that a lot of them do not speak English and have no intention of integrating: they only want to change things to their ways: eg Sharia Law. Why do Muslims not go to other Muslim countries. This has always puzzled me. Some migrants are reportedly paying £5000 and even up to £12000 to reach UK and have passed through at least 5 safe countries to get here they they cannot claim to be asylum seekers. They all have mobile phones and decent clothing. Whatever financial benefit they bring is more than wiped out by the costs of providing all the necessary services to them and then their is all the crooks and sex traffickers mainly from Albania and Romania not to mention beggars. Many of these people are working in the black economy and are claiming benefits at the same time. There are plenty of records of murderers and sex offenders plus terrorists being found in the UK. We cannot deport them due to EU court rules and they are a leach on our society for years and years. I only see 100 million more immigrants from Middle East and Africa wanting to come to Europe over d the next few years. I AM VOTING LEAVE in the referendum but even if Leave wins I doubt that it is now far too late do very much to halt the tide. I am moving to USA!!!!!
Eternal Vigilance is the price of Freedom
Thomas Jefferson .
The site I linked to makes a good case for believing that Islam really is different. Lots of facts there, and the Quaran doesn't leave much open to interpretation in regard to the "verses of violence".
link:://:.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/site/about-site.aspx
Quote from: Bayes on Jun 02, 08:34 AM 2016
Agreed. But why are there no Christian/Buddhist/Jewish/Hindu terrorists? (or at least comparatively few). There's undeniably a connection between what their "good" book says and the behaviour of some, but there's no connection between truck driving and serial murdering. It just annoys me that the PC brigade deny any connection.
Selective memory nonsense. Timothy Mcveigh, there is Jewish terrorism (genocide) taking place everyday against Palestinians but the media chooses not to report it, the 2006 Malegaon blasts, Mecca Masjid bombing. The biggest terrorists of the 20th century is America, following on from Britain a century earlier.
Today people choose to focus on Muslims due to the crazed lunatic fringe ISIS, it's unfortunate Muslims still live in the dark ages and think religion serves a purpose, Christianity is as relevant as Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, nothing more.
UK leaving, wont be long Italians,Dutch
Quote from: Bayes on Jun 02, 10:47 AM 2016
The site I linked to makes a good case for believing that Islam really is different. Lots of facts there, and the Quaran doesn't leave much open to interpretation in regard to the "verses of violence".
link:://:.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/site/about-site.aspx
Same could be said about the Bible. Really, the Bible is no better than the Quran as far as that goes. Thank god for seperation of church and state in the US 😊
Scarface
I normally do not agree with modern day liberals
One exception
Bill Maher is a religion hating liberal
Even he agrees islam is not like christianity
Islam is A LOT different
To say the quran and bible are similar is false
I am agnostic by the way. I am not religious
Christians dont opress women. Christians don't behead converts like saudi arabia does. List goes on
Id rather my neighbore be catholic then a muslim
And thats not racist
I know what they think.
Just google east london muslims
A war is coming.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 24, 08:29 AM 2016
Scarface
I normally do not agree with modern day liberals
One exception
Bill Maher is a religion hating liberal
Even he agrees islam is not like christianity
Islam is A LOT different
To say the quran and bible are similar is false
I am agnostic by the way. I am not religious
Christians dont opress women. Christians don't behead converts like saudi arabia does. List goes on
Id rather my neighbore be catholic then a muslim
The Quran and the Bible is VERY similar. The Bible OKs murder, war, slavery, abuse, and rape in certain passages. So yes, both "holy books" are evil from both religions.
I see what you're saying though. Basically, Muslims follow what their Holy Book says, while Christians and Jews do not...thank goodness for that.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 24, 08:29 AM 2016
Scarface
I normally do not agree with modern day liberals
One exception
Bill Maher is a religion hating liberal
Even he agrees islam is not like christianity
Islam is A LOT different
To say the quran and bible are similar is false
I am agnostic by the way. I am not religious
Christians dont opress women. Christians don't behead converts like saudi arabia does. List goes on
Id rather my neighbore be catholic then a muslim
Of course my friend!! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Scarface on Jun 24, 11:22 AM 2016
The Quran and the Bible is VERY similar. The Bible OKs murder, war, slavery, abuse, and rape in certain passages. So yes, both "holy books" are evil from both religions.
I see what you're saying though. Basically, Muslims follow what their Holy Book says, while Christians and Jews do not...thank goodness for that.
what you're saying is also true. Why did God flood the world? He got angry?? :lol:
Quote from: blueman on Jun 24, 05:20 PM 2016Why did God flood the world? He got angry??
When God flood world? I no believe it, just story scare stupid people.
Quote from: Scarface on Jun 24, 11:22 AM 2016
The Quran and the Bible is VERY similar. The Bible OKs murder, war, slavery, abuse, and rape in certain passages. So yes, both "holy books" are evil from both religions.
I see what you're saying though. Basically, Muslims follow what their Holy Book says, while Christians and Jews do not...thank goodness for that.
The old testament is similar, starting with the conquests of Moses and Joshua. Voices told Joshua and gang to sack whole cities, kill the men, keep the women and cattle. Mohammed is like, what a great idea. I hear voices in my head too! In your face!
The difference seems to be the scope of territory Moses/Joshua thought was given to them by the voices in their head, versus the scope given Mohammed by the voices in his head. The latter is about world wide domination via regularly scheduled expansion at the point of a sword, and every other means short of the sword.
Moses/Joshua and descendants seemed to have accepted some limits to domination by the sword...some sense of borders...albeit far and wide.
It was latter Jewish liturgists that expressed wishful thinking about a world-dominating "messiah" figure...ruling the world from Jerusalem. But in that case, it was up to the messiah to expand the scope world-wide, by sword if he wished. Islam has it's own messiah figure, called the "mahdi", whom they expect to jump into action if the scope of Islamic warfare is sufficiently large, and sufficiently threatened.
Later, but before Mohammed got all these great ideas, a group of old men with pointy hats included Jewish literature ("old testament") with Christian literature to make-up something called Judeo-Christianity. As the pope noted recently, it has history around the idea of conquest. However, the methods by which certain Christians seek to dominate the entire globe fall short of the sword, and that, if any blood is to be shed in the process, it is up to the messiah upon his return.
So there you have it. The Christian and Islamic scope of expansion are the same: world-wide. The method each of these groups are willing to use are different. Christianity uses psychological warfare, while Islam uses both psychological warfare, and hot war (the sword). The Jewish scope was limited to a large swath of land, initiated with the sword (guerrilla warfare), with the idea that a messiah would eventually come and expand it world-wide in his own way, with his own methods.
These people all deserve each other.
Btw, does anybody remember when Donald Trump held his young son out the Trump Tower saying god told him to drop his son without a parachute? And to think Americans will allow this madman to run for highest office!
Wait...hold on...i got my fact checking mixed up.
Not Donald Trump. It was Abraham that heard voices in his head telling him to bind and knife his son to death to test his faith. This is the revered father of all three "Abrahamic religions". Oh what faith!
It's OK to slam migrants but what about the Americans who constantly in fade countries all over world and kill millions of innocent civilians. As their president said "ok, so we killed some folks"! What a shitty political system, a system that prides itself on War and killing to secure resources.
Americans on this forum should not comment at all!
By the way, I hate religion, war and the world"!
T 😉
Quote from: come_on_melb_ole on Jun 25, 04:26 AM 2016
It's OK to slam migrants but what about the Americans who constantly in fade countries all over world and kill millions of innocent civilians. As their president said "ok, so we killed some folks"! What a shitty political system, a system that prides itself on War and killing to secure resources.
Americans on this forum should not comment at all!
By the way, I hate religion, war and the world"!
T 😉
Im American. And i understand my government has been bought and paid for
The citizens of the united states were sold out a long time ago
We are forced to vote democrat or republican who are owned by companies
So shove it
I think you meant invade, not in fade
Good thing the moon does not have oil we'd have taken it over by now
Although i absolutely hate my political system in my country owned by pharmaceutical companies i must say if we werent doing this china and russia would be
Our dollar is worthless and our military backs it
Theres many americans who believe what you believe
Quote from: come_on_melb_ole on Jun 25, 04:26 AM 2016Americans on this forum should not comment at all!
Well not correct...of course anyone can comment
Im gonna say from what Ive seen...Obama looks like a really good guy
....but Ive never heard an american say a good word about him. They know the realty because they live there. I dont. Thats my point.
Also....they seem to be fixated with muslims.
What happened to the communist infactuation?
Never hear you mention "those goddam ruskies" anymore lol
Flavour of the week?
Flavor of the week?
I don't think so
I think it is a new problem we have to face
I want to like muslims. And everyone.
The world would have endless possibilities if everyone united.
The problem that i see with muslims is the lack of assimilation
They migrate. Then in large numbers try to change the place
I saw an interview in germany. Muslim children said they dont become friends with german kids because they are dirty and eat pork
Turner in your country i know there is problems and no go zones
All religions have problems and extremism but islam is its own ball game. They take their writings too literally
Saudi arabia who we have good relations with behead for being gay. Jail for alcohol. Things like this
Muslim and islamic ways are not compatible with western society. They MUST assimilate. assimilate? Fine then we can be friends and enjoy the country
American liberals bash christians and say separation of church and state but give a free pass to muslims and never say a word when muslims want call to prayer bells and pray in public
In michigan there is a muslim town. They said "now we will show the polish" when they won city council bthey are locusts that seek to take over
American schools can teach islam but if they mention christianity people are up in arms over separation of church and state
Americans wont stand for whats happening in europe. The american liberal will learn the hard way that they aren't who they say they are
My fellow americans say be tolerant to muslims but not to christians. That makes me angry. And im agnostic!
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 25, 08:37 AM 2016Turner in your country i know there is problems and no go zones
well you know more than me...never reported on the news...no documentaries on it,
where are these no go zones exactly?
I'm also American, but am sympathetic toward Muslims. Yes, there are some radical Muslims but there are billions of Muslims worldwide. A majority of them are peaceful.
Our media and politicians are using propaganda for Americans to fear muslims. Out of all the mass shootings in our country, 90%+ were from white people.
I think our foreign policy is alot to blame. The CIA helped put Sadam Hussein in power in Iraq. And we invaded this country for no reason. Iraq had nothing to do with 911. Bush should have been charged with war crimes.
The CIA armed the Taliban and Bin Laden in the 80s. Btw, Regan compared the Taliban to our founding fathers. When they're on our side we call them Freedom Fighters, but when they're against us they're terrorist.
During the cold war, the CIA helped overthrow a democratically elected leader in Iran to replace him with the Shah...who killed thousands. Just imagine if a foreign country overthrew our government and did this.
Alot of the hate some Muslims have for us is because of our foreign policy. The US government has alot of blood on its hands.
Quote from: Scarface on Jun 25, 09:49 AM 2016
I'm also American, but am sympathetic toward Muslims. Yes, there are some radical Muslims but there are billions of Muslims worldwide. A majority of them are peaceful.
Our media and politicians are using propaganda for Americans to fear muslims. Out of all the mass shootings in our country, 90%+ were from white people.
I think our foreign policy is alot to blame. The CIA helped put Sadam Hussein in power in Iraq. And we invaded this country for no reason. Iraq had nothing to do with 911. Bush should have been charged with war crimes.
The CIA armed the Taliban and Bin Laden in the 80s. Btw, Regan compared the Taliban to our founding fathers. When they're on our side we call them Freedom Fighters, but when they're against us they're terrorist.
During the cold war, the CIA helped overthrow a democratically elected leader in Iran to replace him with the Shah...who killed thousands. Just imagine if a foreign country overthrew our government and did this.
Alot of the hate some Muslims have for us is because of our foreign policy. The US government has alot of blood on its hands.
Yup
Our government does not represent us
They represent monsanto and the pharma industry
Power hungry. Money hungry. Socialism in bound.
True. Our government does not represent us anymore. It's gotten so corrupt.
Everytime there is a mass shooting here, politicians do nothing. I understand both sides of the gun debate, and support the 2nd amendment. But, poll after poll shows that more than 90% of Americans support closing the loophole for background checks. How can congress not even pass a law that more than 90% of the population wants?
It's frustrating. I love this country, just disappointed in our government
Quote from: Turner on Jun 25, 07:51 AM 2016
Well not correct...of course anyone can comment
Im gonna say from what Ive seen...Obama looks like a really good guy
....but Ive never heard an american say a good word about him. They know the realty because they live there. I dont. Thats my point.
Also....they seem to be fixated with muslims.
What happened to the communist infactuation?
Never hear you mention "those goddam ruskies" anymore lol
Flavour of the week?
I think Obama has been a great president. But alot of people are critical of him. This, in my opinion, is due to the media. The highest rated news network, Fox News, is clearly bias toward the Republican party and portray Obama very negatively.
A viewer of Fox News would think this is the worst economy we've ever had. When Obama took office, 700,000 jobs were being lost a month....now it's adding nearly 200,000 jobs a month. Stock market at a all time high. Deficit spending cut by half.
When a major news network is using propaganda like that, most people take it as proof instead of fact checking.
On November 8th , 2016 WE the PEOPLE of the United States will send a message to the do nothing political elite.
The silent majority is beginning to roar .
New York Daily News
All over the world voices cry out :
POWER TO THE PEOPLE .