Straight Ups: we already know that if you start betting the 1s our first repeat might not happen till spin 25, in which case we would reach the table limits by the time we get there - as it requires a steepish progression. However, if you wait for the first repeat and then apply the same strategy of covering all numbers whose occurrence is >=1 then we should get there with a max BR of just over 1,000. Our profit for the 2nd repeat should be anywhere between +1 to +35; and we can continue to play like this for at least the 3rd and the 4th repeat (requires less BR than the 2nd) before we are in danger of leaving only 2 0s.
And since this does seem HGish I think there might be a way of transferring it to the more practical streets: I envisage we wouldn't always be playing for >=1, but sometimes >=2 since the 12 streets can all appear before the first repeat. The progressions may be more complicated though.
Thoughts other than: "oh no not another delusional HG thread!!!"? :xd:
Stop making threads with HG in the title.
You are just being an attention whore.
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Rather then finishing on 4 or 5 repeats we should be thinking about how many 0s occurred between those repeats; if we get our 2nd repeat quite early:
5 0s > Repeat 1 > 4 0s > Repeat 2...
instead of
18 0s > Repeat 1 > 2 0s > Repeat 2...
In the above scenario we should keep playing longer based on how many 0s have appeared in total. What then happens is that we can get caught on a winning streak of multiple repeats. So let's say we played like that for so many ebbs and flows till we got to a winning streak of 18 at around leg 24 (or the total 0s is greater than, say, 75 at this leg):
7 1 5 2 8 1 1 3 4 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 4 1 10 1 2 1 18 1 3 1 6 1 3 1 19 1
In the above scenario we should then switch to playing the 0s till there are none left (the last one here would have required a 19 step progression, though, which is nothing for 1 number)
Here's the *shortest* session I came across in 100K spins (note: the first step is rather high!):
21U > 2R > 2U > 2R > 2U > 1R > 4U > 4R > 1U > 3R > 1U > 1R > 1U > 4R > 1U > 1R > 2U > 3R > 1U > 8R > 1U
Here we would have 20 wins with a maximum 5 step progression and a BR much lesser than 1K. There would be some kind of trigger that after 17 wins we should switch to the 0s for 2 wins progressed through 3 steps and 8 steps, respectively.
If you need a progression you're delaying the inevitable.
Quote from: 3Nine on Jun 10, 08:49 AM 2016
If you need a progression you're delaying the inevitable.
If there were no table limits then we could win ECs with a marty progression. However, not only do these progressions fit within the table limits, but they require a max BR of about 1050. If progressions weren't a threat to the casino then they wouldn't impose table limits.
5 step progression. ... sure we win many sessions. But do we win enough sessions to stay ahead ? No
Better use 1-1.... and....
Look how many times the 1-1 would lose after each unhit ...... :thumbsup:
Twice? Three? Four ? More or is that an extreme rare event ?
;)
denzie, unless my understanding is fundamentally flawed (and I double-checked my progressions calculator!), this should win every set/session without fail. The only waiting time is 1-25 spins at the beginning then we play for up to about 250 spins max - all with placed bets - to complete the set/session (sometimes only 100 spins). profit should be about 300 (or is that the minimum?).
I don't get it :o
can you explain step by step pls
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 10, 08:02 AM 2016
Stop making threads with HG in the title.
You are just being an attention whore.
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As are you. "Just fishing for attention".
Back to painting the house.
I tracked 2 repeats over 100K spins (= 8000 sessions) and the highest combined results for the 0s with 1 repeat between was 25; here's the top 10 extreme sets in terms of the initial 3 legs:
21 1 4
16 1 8
17 1 6
19 1 4
22 1 1
10 1 13
10 1 13
19 1 4
17 1 6
18 1 5
21 1 4
1 21 15 -21
2 22 7 -65
6 23 13 -203
17 24 1 -611
56 25 5 -2011
This requires a 2,011 bankroll.
16 1 8
1 16 20 -16
1 17 3 -33
2 18 3 -69
5 19 16 -164
11 20 12 -384
26 21 6 -930
67 22 8 -2404
185 23 1 -6659
555 24 1 -19979
This one is not viable, so it looks like we need to start betting for the 3rd repeat onwards.
17 1 6
1 17 19 -17
1 18 1 -35
3 19 16 -92
6 20 4 -212
15 21 13 -527
38 22 5 -1363
105 23 2 -3778
19 1 4
1 19 17 -19
2 20 13 -59
5 22 11 -169
14 23 13 -491
41 24 1 -1475
22 1 1
1 22 14 -22
2 23 4 -68
10 1 13
1 10 26 -10
1 11 15 -21
1 12 3 -33
2 13 13 -59
3 14 7 -101
5 15 4 -176
9 16 4 -320
17 17 3 -609
34 18 3 -1221
72 19 3 -2589
162 20 3 -5829
389 21 6 -13998
1000 22 2 -35998
2770 23 12 -99708
This one breaks the table limits! :o
But still, none of the above are as extreme as trying to get the first repeat:
1 1 35 -1
1 2 33 -3
1 3 30 -6
1 4 26 -10
1 5 21 -15
1 6 15 -21
1 7 8 -28
2 8 28 -44
2 9 10 -62
3 10 16 -92
4 11 8 -136
6 12 8 -208
10 13 22 -338
16 14 14 -562
27 15 5 -967
49 16 13 -1751
93 17 16 -3332
186 18 16 -6680
393 19 1 -14147
885 20 13 -31847
2124 21 13 -76451
5461 22 3 -196593
15123 23 6 -544422
45369 24 6 -1633278
148480 25 2 -5345278
So, if anything, commencing on the third repeat will keep us within the table limits (to be tested next).
Quote from: mogul397 on Jun 10, 11:26 AM 2016
As are you. "Just fishing for attention".
Back to painting the house.
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