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Title: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Blue_Angel on Jul 27, 04:05 PM 2016

The principle of this system is simple, take advantage of first-hitters and repeaters, because for every 3 numbers 1 is going to repeat

Start by betting 11 streets, exclude the one which has hit on last spin.

Another number comes and now you remove the street which the new number belongs, but you also place 1 chip of the same value straight up on the hitted number.

You continue on this fashion by removing the chips from the hitted streets one by one and betting simultaneously the hitted numbers where the streets' bets have been removed.

The total amount of streets that you bet will look like this: 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
The total of the numbers you are betting will look like this: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

As you see the total amount of your bets never exceeds the 11 units, therefore by winning a street you get +1 unit net and by winning a number +25 units net.

You continue till you win a straight up bet and then restart by betting 11 streets.

We are going to cap the the total loss per round in 33 units (3 x 11) or less if you have already won street bets before you lose 3 times.
When you lose a round, repeat the process but this time with 2 units on each bet.

After each losing round increase bets by 1 unit, after each won round decrease by 1 unit.

Whenever you win a straight up number you stop right there and restart from the beginning, 11 streets betting.

Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Turner on Jul 27, 06:44 PM 2016
This is in a similar fashion to how Turbo Genius plays.

Load it...play as they come. Dont use past spins. He tends to remove numbers which are not hitting above expectation after a cycle, and play ones that do with a mild positive progression

BTW... "hitted" isn't correct grammar. Just use "Hit"
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: denzie on Jul 27, 11:26 PM 2016
Can you elaborate on this further pls
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Blue_Angel on Jul 28, 07:01 AM 2016
Quote from: denzie on Jul 27, 11:26 PM 2016
Can you elaborate on this further pls

Elaborate what? Be more specific.
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Blue_Angel on Jul 28, 07:04 AM 2016
Quote from: Turner on Jul 27, 06:44 PM 2016
This is in a similar fashion to how Turbo Genius plays.

Load it...play as they come. Dont use past spins. He tends to remove numbers which are not hitting above expectation after a cycle, and play ones that do with a mild positive progression

BTW... "hitted" isn't correct grammar. Just use "Hit"

Thanks for the notice, I've used Turbo's way too but I found myself "trading waters" after thousands of spins, not bad but not the best one can do in my opinion.
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Turner on Jul 28, 09:12 AM 2016
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Jul 28, 07:04 AM 2016
Thanks for the notice, I've used Turbo's way too but I found myself "trading waters" after thousands of spins, not bad but not the best one can do in my opinion.

Me too.....treading water

But I like playing forward in my own numbers
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: MrJ on Jul 28, 02:12 PM 2016
What some will do (not saying he does this, not saying he doesn't).....a person posts THE principles  ;)  of a decent method. Not really to tease but perhaps laying the "ground work". Its a FORM of contributing to the board. Lets make sure to separate the scammers that might have something for sale vs. the person THAT REALLY KNOWS his s**t, nothing for sale.

The "better" version(s) are kept to the author which I agree with 100%, I get it.

Ken
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Blue_Angel on Jul 28, 02:34 PM 2016
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 28, 02:12 PM 2016
What some will do (not saying he does this, not saying he doesn't).....a person posts THE principles  ;)  of a decent method. Not really to tease but perhaps laying the "ground work". Its a FORM of contributing to the board. Lets make sure to separate the scammers that might have something for sale vs. the person THAT REALLY KNOWS his s**t, nothing for sale.

The "better" version(s) are kept to the author which I agree with 100%, I get it.

Ken

I completely agree with you!
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Tomla021 on Jul 28, 03:04 PM 2016
would be cool if mr j would play some on the forum game to see how he does. And welcome Back Mr J its been awhile
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: MrJ on Jul 28, 06:28 PM 2016
Quote from: Tomla021 on Jul 28, 03:04 PM 2016
would be cool if mr j would play some on the forum game to see how he does. And welcome Back Mr J its been awhile

I have a question on that, I guess Steve only knows. Can he in ANY WAY, watch or view, where people are placing their bets? I understand he wouldn't know WHY but curious if he could know WHERE or WHEN?

Ken
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Blue_Angel on Jul 28, 06:38 PM 2016
Quote from: MrJ on Jul 28, 06:28 PM 2016
I have a question on that, I guess Steve only knows. Can he in ANY WAY, watch or view, where people are placing their bets? I understand he wouldn't know WHY but curious if he could know WHERE or WHEN?

Ken


But how this could affect the game?
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Blue_Angel on Jul 28, 06:58 PM 2016
BTW, the way I describe my method is the definition of "mechanical" system.

Unless someone could tweak it for the better, it won't stand in long term.
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Steve on Jul 28, 08:47 PM 2016
QuoteI have a question on that, I guess Steve only knows. Can he in ANY WAY, watch or view, where people are placing their bets? I understand he wouldn't know WHY but curious if he could know WHERE or WHEN?

Yes as discussed on the thread about Priyanka, the programmer added logging because we suspected cheating. It wasnt like this previously and soon we'll disable the logging to improve server performance. Every online casino logs bets. It is not an attempt to steal systems. It's to find and resolve bugs or anything that could allow cheating. If I wanted to steal systems, the log would be structured differently. But even if it was, reverse engineering a system is quite complex unless it's a basic progression. I have other things to do than to reverse engineer systems for which results are still within the realms of random distribution. Put another way, would I really waste days trying to understand a system's rules that won in the short term, only to find out it's a martingale with a few random bets in between?

Its not a conspiracy. Also recently someone asked if I could read PMs. Actually anyone with database access can. It's the same with any forum. And to people who dont know any better, it was a revelation that I must be reading private messages. I have no interest in it.
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: MrJ on Jul 28, 09:26 PM 2016
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Jul 28, 06:38 PM 2016

But how this could affect the game?

(lol) Thats really what I was not aiming for. I know he would not affect the game.

Ken
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: MrJ on Jul 28, 09:28 PM 2016
...and to be fair/clear. I should not of said "Steve".

I meant anybody.

Ken
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Tomla021 on Jul 28, 09:41 PM 2016
nobody can see where your placing bets , the public just sees how much you won or lost
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Azim on Aug 02, 02:40 AM 2016
Quote from: Tomla021 on Jul 28, 09:41 PM 2016
nobody can see where your placing bets , the public just sees how much you won or lost

Some legit online casino's let you see all bets placed by all players playing on the multi-player wheel.
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 02, 07:17 PM 2016
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Jul 27, 04:05 PM 2016Another number comes and now you remove the street which the new number belongs, but you also place 1 chip of the same value straight up on the hitted number.
Where does the unit come from if a street hits again, thus 2#'s on that street
Title: Re: Hot & Cold Shower
Post by: Blue_Angel on Aug 02, 08:44 PM 2016
Quote from: nottophammer on Aug 02, 07:17 PM 2016
Where does the unit come from if a street hits again, thus 2#'s on that street

Plus 1 unit you win when a street hits, when a number repeats you gain 25 units.

When the other 2 numbers hit inside a street which you've previously removed you are losing 11 units.