Where can i see the complete leaderboard? (more then 20)
nevermind. found it
If you look on the board, theres some good players still using the 1st bankroll.
The ? is r they still playing as they seem to never move
188. BlueAngel
210. tischclan2 just a few, as all others are at house edge or worse
:.rouletteplayers.org/leaderboard
None of them anygood reset BR to many times. Now if you where top on one BR, thats different
Resetting bankroll doesnt do any good to the win rate.
What we find (as expected) is the more someone plays, the closer they get to the expected results which is about 0.97 win rate. Wally gator is doing best last time I looked. I'm curious to know what his system is (if he's here and reading).
I can see bets made but it is for debugging and finding cheating loopholes, not tracking systems. Its no different to any casino. On this note, I'm aware of someone claiming to have a brilliant winning HG system, but I've been told they are secretly claiming they refuse to prove their system works by testing on the multiplayer game because all bets are tracked, as if I was going to steal their system. They use another game as "proof". And that game is full of people on their leaderboard winning millions. It would be great if every casino had multiple players winning millions. That isnt reality though. It looks more like an excuse to avoid fair and unbiased spins. And I've got news for that person. Every online casino tracks bets. If I wanted to reverse engineer a system, I would design the software to track everything to make it easier. If I believed any player had the HG, I wqould plainly ask them and offer to pay them for it.
Reset of BR tells you that the player/s method is no good, ok perhaps 1 or 2 resets, but if they just keep resetting,then they are fooling themselves, they dont have an endless BR, if you did why would you play and lose the money. Ah Mr Rooney :lol:
Well notto I think you are wrong because winrate system is not fair so we have to deal with two problems, first a roulette itself is hard casino game and second unfair winrate system so this is two reasons of your bad positions and 100 nick names on multiplayer game. :lol:
The winrate formula is neither fair or unfair. It is just amount won vs amount lost, like it in with your bankroll.
The ranking formula applies to everyone, is fair, and properly balanced. To be at the top you need high win rate, with comparatively significant amount of spins and amount wagered. The rank cannot be based on win rate alone or players would create multiple accounts, then try to bet high and win big to rank high. It happened before. But cheating that way isnt possible with the algorithm i designed.
If anyone has a better formula, be specific and open a discussion.
MJ had TTTKA2 in top spot, but then went crazy with the units. Then start something different so use a new BR, so you can see if its going in right direction, why just keep getting a reset on BR you're fooling yourselves.
Now i'm using monikers, NINE,NINE,NINE and justinten, oh and by the way still on the starting BR.
Justinten just moved up from 233 to 214 :thumbsup:
Notto you are trapped in Steves fake unfair winrate system so you can never be in top 20 playing on this way. :o
not if you get to#1 on the one bank roll
MumboJumbo, like I said, win rate is just win vs loss. How is that unfair?
I assume you mean the ranking system. Read what i wrote. Should we just let new members with 5 big wins rank first? Of course not.
Its easy to criticise, but can you suggest a better algorithm? Turbo didnt rank high so he complained too,but didnt offer a better and fairer algorithm.
And mumbo, even if the ranking was based on win rate alone, you still wouldnt rank well. Your win rate is actually worse than random (expectation). I suppose thats my fault too?
Quote from: Steve on Jun 01, 07:23 AM 2017
MumboJumbo, like I said, win rate is just win vs loss. How is that unfair?
I assume you mean the ranking system. Read what i wrote. Should we just let new members with 5 big wins rank first? Of course not.
Its easy to criticise,
Ok question?
Let say I reset bankroll 100 times and my bankroll at the end is 300 000$ and my rank position is No1? Will notto say " no he is loser he reset 100 times and this f***** is first now" :lol: Will he be right?
Not everyone can rank as high as me
:)
You can reset your bankroll a billion times and it wont make a difference. The server knows how much you have won and lost.
Its just like in a real casino. You might have $1000 in your bankroll, and it looks great. But what about the $5000 you lost the night before? Its the same simple principle ( bankroll means nothing. What counts is amount won vs amount lost).
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 01, 08:04 AM 2017
Not everyone can rank as high as me
They will if your monthly payments to me are late again
MJ just moved NINE, NINE, NINE from 132 to 119 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
nice to see you RG
like the name was betting 1st 9 and last 9, RG and sledgehammer was killing me, but i kept to the stakes and moved up, bit chaotic :lol: :lol: :lol:
oh yeah chaotic dont work does it MJ >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Im sure if I played on mp too, I could end up anywhere on the leaderboard. Top, bottom, middle, who knows. I expect I could at least get better than random results using combination of approaches. But I doubt results would be significant.
Anyone who is doing well now might get very different results if they try to replicate their success.
@ steve
Do you turn all "BKR" to zero from time to time ?
Or never ?
I don't touch any of the stats, bankrolls etc.
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 01, 06:49 AM 2017
Justinten just moved up from 233 to 214 :thumbsup:
Jumbo Mumbo moved up to 201now ;D
Quote from: Steve on Jun 01, 08:05 AM 2017
You can reset your bankroll a billion times and it wont make a difference. The server knows how much you have won and lost.
Its just like in a real casino. You might have $1000 in your bankroll, and it looks great. But what about the $5000 you lost the night before? Its the same simple principle ( bankroll means nothing. What counts is amount won vs amount lost).
Steve we can see whos doing well on MPR, by win rate, but this dont tell the full story, you need to look at the amount won, take that from there Bankroll, and theres your answer, almost all have reset their Bankroll, like octo 47000 resets, if you have that size bank roll laying around what you playing roulette for as another reset is around the corner and you must run out sometime.So mumbo when i bust a player name i just restart a new player name, and they have been using various methods ideas posted or thought up, but they all needed to reset the BR.
So i've stopped and use what i know and thats average, average to hit and the max a non-hit can take.
Now mumbo and all of you, what does you is the table limit, i only play singles and there max is 100 units, so you need to know how many bets your going to take to get the win or bust by going over the 100 max.
Winkel knows how to play, he works to the 1 win value, so if betting 17 non-hit he can bet twice.But how many spins can you bet 17 0x's for before you reach the 100 max, this is where the average to hit must be known and then the max spins any non-hit number can take, once you know the max,which takes many games to collect, you work out the amount of spins you can play for. The 100 max does not allow for many bets, but with the starting Bankroll still intact, must be doing something right.
97. DOES ROULETTE KICK YOU IN THE NUTS,NOT ME, ROFL 6407 833 51455 56862 1.1050821
MJ as you can see i'm winning 6.490 per spin in this chaotic game :thumbsup:
If a player bets $10 minimum and needs a 5k bankroll to bust out his progression, then I don't see why anyone should begrudge such a player resetting his bank roll 9 times if in the first instance he is confronted with a lengthy losing run.
There could be many reasons for resetting the bankroll. For instance some might reset the bankroll at each new high point for bookkeeping and ledger updates. Therefore IMO only the amount bet/amount won, the win rate, and the spins played are of any real consequence.
I love the word bookkeeping. I think it's the only word in the English language with 3 double letters.
so you got a spare 47000 laying about
how this one works then..
low bank=0,1668 spins,0.978 win rate...at position 16
bank=24700,700 spins,0.998 win rate...at lower position 17
:question:
spin count
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 08, 06:27 AM 2017
so you got a spare 47000 laying about
..and then some. 8)
Quote from: maestro on Jul 10, 03:01 PM 2017
how this one works then..
low bank=0,1668 spins,0.978 win rate...at position 16
bank=24700,700 spins,0.998 win rate...at lower position 17
:question:
Bankroll makes no difference to rank. The factors are wins, losses, and spins played.
I already published the ranking algorithm so you can see how it works. I also explained the reasoning so everyone knows its balanced and fair