Guys, I got this s**t figured out (not beat) and I'm giddy like a little girl. (lol)
Its all in HOT NUMBERS !!!!!
Trust me 100% on this. I know Turbo would even agree. You already know I no longer post DETAILS but at least read this......
Do as I did. Come up with at least 20 DIFFERENT versions of rules for your method for hot number play. One by one by one, eliminate what does not work. Yes, it will take a long long long long time but put a price on your future please. Test all 20 of your versions over *MANY* *MANY* spins. I did all mine, spin by spin.
So far I have not lost once at the casino and have not lost once at C. Casino (testing)....and I dont mean over four visits (lol).
The biggest keys....how many hot numbers bet (not too many), for how long do you bet them, what might of been WARM is now "hot", what WAS hot is no longer a factor, flat betting no progressions, the definition of short term must always stay constant, keep an eye on ball speed, ball size, wheel speed etc.
Figure all of this (as I did) into at least 20 DIFFERENT versions. Slowly narrow down what does NOT work. Forget your columns and GUT and KTF and progressions etc etc etc etc etc.
Once every six months or so, I see a new thread from someone...getting CLOSER to this and POOF, its gone. No more interest. (sad)
Figure out HOT numbers guys...IT'S THE *ONLY* WAY !!!!!!!!!!!
Ken
I could buy into that theory
Hand on bible.....this is the way.
Ken
Ken, with all due respect, based on hot numbers only the method will not give very good results on a long run. You may be a bit ahead, but there will be days when you lose miserably. Sometimes cold numbers come in great numbers. Don't forget house edge adding to this, it can be disaster sometimes.
Dont forget about law of the third, within last 38 spins come on average 25 numbers. Which means one third is always against you.
The biggest thing I had to over come (imo) was *WHEN* to drop and *WHEN* to add a number(s). It was BRUTAL....I mean literally BRUTAL. I came close and close and then down the tank it went. I smashed a mirror here at home after losing. (lol) $130 for that mirror.
Through my trial & error (imo), I narrowed it down (again, imo). Almost to clockwork status.
I would say to myself....Ok, this should happen soon and BAM.
Casino...played 67 times, won 67 times.
C. Casino.....played (testing) 107 times, won 107 times.
Granted, this is 174 PLAYS and not 900 visits, I get it. How many TOTAL spins? I dont know.
BR (for casino) is around 8K but I guess I could use a $600 BR?
Also, I play on a 00 wheel.
Ken
how many numbers do end up playing at the most?
2 (never more)
Starting off its usually 1 but not for long.
Ken
I tried 3-6 (max)....it tanked.
3 hung in there for quite a bit but dropped.
Ken
This is my issue
You are throwing chips at the same game that everyone else is
I will use ktf as example because you bashed ktf
Those chips are at the same HE you are at
Betting hot numbers has the same odds....
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 20, 06:14 PM 2016
This is my issue
You are throwing chips at the same game that everyone else is
I will use ktf as example because you bashed ktf
Those chips are at the same HE you are at
Betting hot numbers has the same odds....
RG, you are my friend and I love you like a brother (as of now sir). Play KTF, thats cool with me. I gain nothing if you play it or dont play it.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Aug 20, 06:20 PM 2016RG, you are my friend and I love you like a brother (as of now sir)
I'm filling up here :'(
Thumbs Up for you Turner.
My "quest" is nearly over.
Ken
Whoops, I gave you a Thumbs Up Turner...hit it again and it took it away. Sorry about that, my fault.
Ken
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Quote from: MrJ on Aug 20, 06:32 PM 2016
Thumbs Up for you Turner.
My "quest" is nearly over.
Ken
Cheers.
My world view is that you may be in a variance era.....
Yes...era.
You can get the better side of variance for ages. Years.
Caleb calls it luck.
I agree with Iggiv (nice to see him post) and RG.
The facts are this: The Casino pay less than they should.
There is no way to gain an edge by placing chips on the table based on systems
No matter what decision you came to...GUT...WTF..and Kens epiphany,to place the bet, the bet is subject to the HE
Have I just talked myself out of playing roulette? No
Will I keep trying? Yes
Am I talking to myself in the third person?...yep
Quote from: Turner on Aug 20, 06:48 PM 2016
Cheers.
My world view is that you may be in a variance era.....
Yes...era.
You can get the better side of variance for ages. Years.
Caleb calls it luck.
I agree with Iggiv (nice to see him post) and RG.
The facts are this: The Casino pay less than they should.
There is no way to gain an edge by placing chips on the table based on systems
No matter what decision you came to...GUT...WTF..and Kens epiphany,to place the bet, the bet is subject to the HE
Have I just talked myself out of playing roulette? No
Will I keep trying? Yes
Am I talking to myself in the third person?...yep
I enjoyed your post Turner, thank you.
Ken
forget about a winning method --Im choked up along with most over the RG -Ken togetherness dance---this might be the first step in the solving of world problems
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Quote from: Tomla021 on Aug 20, 06:54 PM 2016Im choked up along with most over the RG -Ken togetherness dance
If we were in a pub together...we would now hug. There would be no stopping it
(lol)...Its just, when you're in a great mood, even people you dont get along with, those people cannot rain on my parade. I *KNOW* I am extremely close and I dont lie here.
I put in too much of my free time with this damn game. I know walking in to the casino, I'll walk out a winner. Positive on that.
Ken
Lets just lay it out....in 38 spins, we will not have all 38 numbers hit.
In 38 spins, we will not have 19 numbers hit twice and 19 numbers not hit at all, fact.
WHEN to drop, WHEN to add !! ;) !! ;) !! ;) !!
Ken
Quote from: Turner on Aug 20, 06:30 PM 2016
I'm filling up here :'(
This is as far as i've got, reply 10 and Turner you do make me laugh :lol:
Thumbs Up for you Notto.
Quote from: Turner on Aug 20, 06:48 PM 2016
Cheers.
My world view is that you may be in a variance era.....
Yes...era.
You can get the better side of variance for ages. Years.
Caleb calls it luck.
I agree with Iggiv (nice to see him post) and RG.
The facts are this: The Casino pay less than they should.
There is no way to gain an edge by placing chips on the table based on systems
No matter what decision you came to...GUT...WTF..and Kens epiphany,to place the bet, the bet is subject to the HE
Have I just talked myself out of playing roulette? No
Will I keep trying? Yes
Am I talking to myself in the third person?...yep
Thats page one of this comedy done :thumbsup:
Quote from: Turner on Aug 20, 06:56 PM 2016
If we were in a pub together...we would now hug. There would be no stopping it
stop it Turner i'm welling up
Quote from: MrJ on Aug 20, 07:00 PM 2016I put in too much of my free time with this damn game. I know walking in to the casino, I'll walk out a winner. Positive on that.
Thats a big kennel and casino, the top dog can bite
Last time i was in ireland there was no hugging in the pub
I tipped the bartender and a drunk guy threatened to hit me
No tipping in europe. I learned the hard way
Old signature....GONE!
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Aug 20, 07:22 PM 2016
Old signature....GONE!
Ken
Hes drinking and hes in a good mood
Hell
Me too.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 20, 07:24 PM 2016
Hes drinking and hes in a good mood
Hell
Me too.
Not a drop in me. In an hour or so, good times tonight.
Changing the subject.....a pit boss mentioned something I said HERE on the forum. So I guess they do read. I'm not sure if I'm pissed or not? I'm not real sure what to think on this subject? I feel this place is KIND OF private but I also realize anyone can read anything.
Ken
2 numbers I always like 12 attempts then switch
Quote from: Tomla021 on Aug 20, 07:29 PM 2016
2 numbers I always like 12 attempts then switch
OMG if it was that simple. I'm NOT knocking your post mind you!! Thumbs Up for you.
Ken
Mr J
60 spins, one number hits 5 times, but what is, dare i say, your trigger to pick this number up. Oh yes you dont give up that piece of info
Quote from: MrJ on Aug 20, 04:18 PM 2016.how many hot numbers bet (not too many)
would 12 be too many
Mr j
Im doing the exact same thing for about 3 weeks now. The pictures i added are real live spins tested on RX (10 units). Those are only a few of the many i tested but they all look the same way in matter of profit. I do used sometimes more the 2 hotnumbers, never more then 4. I do really think hotnumbers are the way to go. I must warn the online players ! Do not follow the hotnumberboard provided by the casino, use your own tracking!
R
Mr J
Thanks for reply.
14th spin on the sheet is 12 unique numbers, does Turbo mention betting 12 numbers, flat bet the next 6 spins ?
he bets 1 or 2 numbers at a time!!
Hi Ken
Are you playing with a progression or flat betting?
Quote from: Badger on Aug 22, 11:23 AM 2016
Hi Ken
Are you playing with a progression or flat betting?
I'll pretend I didn't see that.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Aug 22, 11:30 AM 2016
I'll pretend I didn't see that.
Ken
If it works then u should use a progression with no issues....
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 22, 11:33 AM 2016
If it works then u should use a progression with no issues....
I would rather light my nut sack on fire as opposed to using a progression.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Aug 20, 06:03 PM 2016
2 (never more)
Starting off its usually 1 but not for long.
Ken
I don't doubt your results Ken, in fact I'm really happy about your success because
you are the proof that this game could be profitable in long term!
However, I do have a question for you; what if a dealer decides to dodge your 2 numbers long enough to cause you considerable loses?
Wouldn't that be easy because you are covering just 2 out of 38 pockets??
I always read your posts with great interest, whether they make me laugh or learn it's a gain!
Perhaps Steve could read this post and suspect that you've create a duplicate account... 8)
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 22, 11:33 AM 2016
If it works then u should use a progression with no issues....
TG uses a mild pos progression
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Aug 23, 01:16 AM 2016
I don't doubt your results Ken, in fact I'm really happy about your success because you are the proof that this game could be profitable in long term!
However, I do have a question for you; what if a dealer decides to dodge your 2 numbers long enough to cause you considerable loses?
Wouldn't that be easy because you are covering just 2 out of 38 pockets??
I always read your posts with great interest, whether they make me laugh or learn it's a gain!
Perhaps Steve could read this post and suspect that you've create a duplicate account... 8)
To be fair, there is no PROOF I do well, only my word. I insist on being consistent. If I call out others on proof, then the same rules apply to me.
As per your question.....I think I understand it, what do I do?
With my CURRENT method...I'm at 68 wins now. My BR walking in is 9K. $50 per number.
You have to have enough money for peaks and valleys. My closest to tapping out was, I had $400 left (lol), not good but that turned into a 10 hour day sitting there.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Aug 23, 12:16 PM 2016
To be fair, there is no PROOF I do well, only my word. I insist on being consistent. If I call out others on proof, then the same rules apply to me.
As per your question.....I think I understand it, what do I do?
With my CURRENT method...I'm at 68 wins now. My BR walking in is 9K. $50 per number.
You have to have enough money for peaks and valleys. My closest to tapping out was, I had $400 left (lol), not good but that turned into a 10 hour day sitting there.
Ken
By enough you mean 180 units?
In your case 180*50=9000$ is it sufficient for your method, seems relatively small br to me.
And you would keep on betting on the same table instead of changing in order to avoid the particular dealer?
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Aug 23, 12:25 PM 2016
By enough you mean 180 units?
In your case 180*50=9000$ is it sufficient for your method, seems relatively small br to me.
And you would keep on betting on the same table instead of changing in order to avoid the particular dealer?
It gets me 90 bets. 9K seems like enough so far (knock on wood). I'm not a big believer in switching tables. I like a particular seat, next to the wheel so I can watch. I even pay $100 to sit there from time to time. My biggest issue is NOT the dealer...its ball size !!!
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Aug 23, 12:29 PM 2016
It gets me 90 bets. 9K seems like enough so far (knock on wood). I'm not a big believer in switching tables. I like a particular seat, next to the wheel so I can watch. I even pay $100 to sit there from time to time. My biggest issue is NOT the dealer...its ball size !!!
Ken
If you have great balls you don't mind about ball's size because you are reckless and confident.
When almost everyone is trying to survive in this game, you are betting for dealers with the chips of your wins!
Ken like 10 I salute you!!! :D
I'll say this...I have bad history with a couple dealers here. They "usually" kill me for whatever reason. Give me the choice, one of those dealers and the PROPER ball size and I'll sit there.
If avoidable, I NEVER NEVER play with the little beebee ball.
Ken
hi, so any chance to get more hints how you are playing?
Quote from: biagle on Aug 23, 02:32 PM 2016
hi, so any chance to get more hints how you are playing?
Don't fish.........
The pond is empty over here
Fukishima style.
Quote from: MrJ on Aug 20, 04:18 PM 2016
Its all in HOT NUMBERS !!!!!
Trust me 100% on this.
I'm starting to :thumbsup:
what might of been WARM is now "hot", what WAS hot is no longer a factor, flat betting
Can't get hot without it's getting warm first :thumbsup:
Great thread btw....
But already forgotten :-\
Quote from: denzie on Sep 17, 12:55 PM 2016Great thread btw....
But already forgotten
Maybe MrJ can post on 37 spins cycle thread for any suggestion as this thread is also an attempt on hot numbers and many users already give some nice ideas. This way hot numbers won't get forgotten.
KTF num span not hit Hit 1 >1 Hit 2 >2 Hit 3 >3 Hit 4 >4 Hit 5
21 36 1
03 35 2
21 35 1 1 1
Okay Mr J #21 is warming up, so do we bet or not?
I agree with Mr J's philosophy of betting on 2-4 numbers (max.).
The only drawback of this approach is that it does require a larger bankroll than do other
methods because your chosen numbers may not get hit for a long, long time.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Sep 18, 11:27 PM 2016
I agree with Mr J's philosophy of betting on 2-4 numbers (max.).
The only drawback of this approach is that it does require a larger bankroll than do other
methods because your chosen numbers may not get hit for a long, long time.
One rule came before the other for me. Meaning, my BET SELECTION came FIRST in terms of my studies. Why am I betting such-n-such, for what reasons? After I felt I achieved that (YEARS), I then narrowed it down to 2-4 numbers max., after that, flat betting.
Ken