You all have heard about the Law Of The Thirds but did you know that roulette is not the only thing which applies?
For example how many hours is a day? 24 and from those two thirds is being active while one third is sleeping.
24 is the two thirds of 36, the numbers of roulette excluding 0, if you add all numbers the sum you would find is 666, by adding 0 doesn't change.
What's the square root of 666? 25.8 but let's round it up to the nearest whole number, the 26.
26 doesn't referring to number 26 but as duration, 26 spins.
Why 26 spins? What is 26 spins?
As you now, given any set of 37 spins, we'll never get all numbers one time each, why?
Because some numbers are repeating, why some numbers are repeating?
That's an interesting question, from your empirical observations, how long do you think takes to have 18 to 19 different numbers? 24 to 26 spins on average.
The time we have 18 to 19 uniques the chances of repeating one of those numbers with the chances to hit a new are approximately equal, is never exactly equal because the total numbers are odd, 37.
So when we reach 24th to 26th spin approximately we should expect roughly an equal distribution of repeaters VS new comers, as the repeaters grow in numbers so does their probability to repeat.
So keep in mind number 26 because it's a turning point.
When I bet a single number for 36 spins I've 64.86 % chance to see it hit at least once, but since the last third of the 37 spins cycle has more repeaters, wouldn't it better if my number hasn't hit till the 26th spin to change to another one, preferably a number with 1 hit that far, wouldn't it?
Let's summarize, more uniques in the first 2/3 and more repeaters on the final third, what I'm suggesting is just common sense based on facts.
Every number has 3 identities, let's call them "numbers" are their names, "time" it's their origin and "pockets" are their destination.
"Numbers", "Time" and "Pockets" are all subject to the Law Of The Thirds.
Let me clarify one by one each of these 3 categories,"numbers" are the actual numbers, "time" is the interval for every number between one hit to the next, "pockets" is the distance traveled from one number to the next.
It will take some time to properly analyze my method, so please be patient and hold tight!
To be continued...
How to start:
Make three separate lists, on the first you are going to write every number which appears, don't write the same number twice, so if a number repeats just ignore the first list.
On the second list you are going to write the distance in pockets from one number to the next, example: after number 0, number 11 comes, the distance from 0 to 11 in clockwise fashion is 14 pockets.
In order to make such calculations easier and faster you should memorize every numbers' position on the wheel.
On the third you are going to write the time origin of each number, by time origin I mean the chronological order of appearance of all numbers.
Starting on chronological position number 0 which represents the oldest number and ending on position 36 which represents the last spun number.
So after each spin you are placing the last spun number to the bottom of the "time" list, after calculating the distance by deducting the position of the previous number from the last, you are writing this distance to the "pockets" list.
Position of numbers around the wheel starting from 00:00 o'clock number 0 and moving clockwise on single 0 European wheel:
Number 0 at position 0
Number 32 at position 1
Number 15 at position 2
Number 19 at position 3
Number 4 at position 4
Number 21 at position 5
Number 2 at position 6
Number 25 at position 7
Number 17 at position 8
Number 34 at position 9
Number 6 at position 10
Number 27 at position 11
Number 13 at position 12
Number 36 at position 13
Number 11 at position 14
Number 30 at position 15
Number 8 at position 16
Number 23 at position 17
Number 10 at position 18
Number 5 at position 19
Number 24 at position 20
Number 16 at position 21
Number 33 at position 22
Number 1 at position 23
Number 20 at position 24
Number 14 at position 25
Number 31 at position 26
Number 9 at position 27
Number 22 at position 28
Number 18 at position 29
Number 29 at position 30
Number 7 at position 31
Number 28 at position 32
Number 12 at position 33
Number 35 at position 34
Number 3 at position 35
Number 26 at position 36
Example: after number 23 hits number 12, deduct position 17 (23) from position 33 (12) and you find 16 pockets distance.
Another example: after 8 hits number 30, since 8 is at position 16 and 30 at 15th pocket of the wheel the ball has traveled 36 pockets clockwise.
With a bit of practice you will familiarise yourself with those distances.
To be continued...
I'm going to make an example about how to proceed with betting.
CHRONO. ORDER NUMBERS TIME POCKETS
0) 0 30 36 -
1) 18 16 1 6
2) 21 6 10 26
3) 13 24 9 10
4) 23 7 2 11
5) 36 - 34 16
6) 1 34 29 36
7) 17 2 22 34
8) 3 9 24 24
9) 20 32 3 -
10) 4 26 numbers--> 25 6 -
11) 15 start betting-->
12) 26
13) 11
14) 12
15) 31
16) 27
17) 35
18) 33
19) 19
20) 29
21) 8
22) 14
23) 5
24) 28
25) 22
26) 10
27) 30
28) 16
29) 24
30) 7
31) 6
32) 34
33) 2
34) 9
35) 32
36) 25
Current number is 25 which is placed at the 7th position, start by adding the pockets of the 3rd list on the 7th position:
7+6= 13th position is number 36 but there isn't in the numbers' list yet, no bet.
7+26= 33rd position is number 12 but there isn't in the numbers' list yet, no bet.
7+10= 17th position is number 23 but there isn't in the numbers' list yet, no bet.
7+11= 18th position is number 10 but there isn't in the numbers' list yet, no bet.
7+16= 23rd position is number 1 but there isn't in the numbers' list yet, no bet.
7+36= 6th position is number 2 and there is in the numbers' list, now check the chronological order of number 2, it's at the 33rd position, but 33 isn't in the time list yet, no bet.
7+34= 4th position is number 4 but there isn't in the numbers' list yet, no bet.
7+24= 31st position is number 7 but there isn't in the numbers' list yet, no bet.
After you have a total of 24 up to 26 numbers from all 3 lists you start betting till you win or until the total of all 3 lists are 36 to 37 numbers.
Only flat betting, not every spin is a bet.
When you finish restart with "Numbers", "Time" and "Pockets" lists.
I understand that is not the simplest thing to use, but I could answer your questions if you have.
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Aug 26, 11:49 AM 2016
You all have heard about the Law Of The Thirds but did you know that roulette is not the only thing which applies?
For example how many hours is a day? 24 and from those two thirds is being active while one third is sleeping.
24 is the two thirds of 36, the numbers of roulette excluding 0, if you add all numbers the sum you would find is 666, by adding 0 doesn't change.
What's the square root of 666? 25.8 but let's round it up to the nearest whole number, the 26.
26 doesn't referring to number 26 but as duration, 26 spins.
Why 26 spins? What is 26 spins?
As you now, given any set of 37 spins, we'll never get all numbers one time each, why?
Because some numbers are repeating, why some numbers are repeating?
That's an interesting question, from your empirical observations, how long do you think takes to have 18 to 19 different numbers? 24 to 26 spins on average.
The time we have 18 to 19 uniques the chances of repeating one of those numbers with the chances to hit a new are approximately equal, is never exactly equal because the total numbers are odd, 37.
So when we reach 24th to 26th spin approximately we should expect roughly an equal distribution of repeaters VS new comers, as the repeaters grow in numbers so does their probability to repeat.
So keep in mind number 26 because it's a turning point.
When I bet a single number for 36 spins I've 64.86 % chance to see it hit at least once, but since the last third of the 37 spins cycle has more repeaters, wouldn't it better if my number hasn't hit till the 26th spin to change to another one, preferably a number with 1 hit that far, wouldn't it?
Let's summarize, more uniques in the first 2/3 and more repeaters on the final third, what I'm suggesting is just common sense based on facts.
Every number has 3 identities, let's call them "numbers" are their names, "time" it's their origin and "pockets" are their destination.
"Numbers", "Time" and "Pockets" are all subject to the Law Of The Thirds.
Let me clarify one by one each of these 3 categories,"numbers" are the actual numbers, "time" is the interval for every number between one hit to the next, "pockets" is the distance traveled from one number to the next.
It will take some time to properly analyze my method, so please be patient and hold tight!
To be continued...
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Aug 26, 10:42 AM 2016Thanks for bringing this junk into our attention!
I'm going to explain it as simple as possible.
If you select to use all three lists, including "time", it would be more time consuming because in order to use the "time" list you need "chrono order" list and in order to use "chrono order list" every number must have hit at least once.
So let's forget the "time" list for the moment and focus on the other two, "numbers" and "pockets".
I'm going to explain step by step, if you have any questions just let me know.
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SPIN TROT "NUMBERS" "POCKETS"
1st 34 34 - we wrote the last spun number on the "numbers" list, no "pockets" number as there is no previous number, no bet.
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2nd 8 8 7 we placed 8 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference from number 34 (previous) to number 8 (last) on the "pockets" list, 7 pockets from position sixteen which is number 8 we arrive at position twenty-three which is number 1, but 1 is not in ''numbers'' list, no bet.
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3rd 33 33 6 we placed 33 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 8 (previous) to number 33 (last), on the "pockets" list, 7 pockets from position twenty-two which is number 33 we arrive at position twenty-nine which is number 18, 6 pockets from position twenty-two which is number 33 we arrive at position twenty-eight which is number 22, but 18 and 22 are not in ''numbers'' list, no bet.
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4th 16 16 36 we placed 16 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 33 (previous) to number 16 (last), on the "pockets" list, 7 pockets from position twenty-one which is number 16 we arrive at position twenty-eight which is number 22, 6 pockets from position twenty-one which is number 16 we arrive at position twenty-seven which is number 9, 36 pockets from position twenty-one which is number 16 we arrive at position twenty which is number 24, but 9, 22 and 24 are not in ''numbers'' list, no bet.
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5th 0 0 16 we placed 0 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 16 (previous) to number 0 (last), on the "pockets" list, 7 pockets from position zero which is number 0 we arrive at position seven which is number 25, 6 pockets from position zero which is number 0 we arrive at position six which is number 2, 36 pockets from position zero which is number 0 we arrive at position thirtysix which is number 26, 16 pockets from position zero which is number 0 we arrive at position sixteen which is number 8, numbers 2, 25 and 26 are not in ''numbers'' list but number 8 is, bet 8.
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6th 9 9 27 we placed 9 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 0 (previous) to number 9 (last), on the "pockets" list, 7 pockets from position twenty-seven which is number 9 we arrive at position thirty-four which is number 35, 6 pockets from position twenty-seven which is number 9 we arrive at position thirty-three which is number 12, 36 pockets from position twenty-seven which is number 9 we arrive at position twentysix which is number 31, 16 pockets from position twenty-seven which is number 9 we arrive at position six which is number 2, 27 pockets from position twenty-seven which is number 9 we arrive at position seventeen which is number 23, numbers 2, 35, 31, 23 and 12 are not in ''numbers'' list, no bet.
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7th 15 15 12 we placed 15 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 9 (previous) to number 15 (last), on the "pockets" list, 7 pockets from position two which is number 15 we arrive at position nine which is number 34, 6 pockets from position two which is number 15 we arrive at position eight which is number 17, 36 pockets from position two which is number 15 we arrive at position one which is number 32, 16 pockets from position two which is number 15 we arrive at position eighteen which is number 10, 27 pockets from position two which is number 15 we arrive at position twentynine which is number 18, 12 pockets from position two which is number 15 we arrive at position fourteen which is number 11, numbers 32, 17, 10, 11 and 18 are not in ''numbers'' list, but number 34 is, bet 34.
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8th 36 36 11 we placed 36 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 15 (previous) to number 36 (last), on the "pockets" list, 7 pockets from position thirteen which is number 36 we arrive at position twenty which is number 24, 6 pockets from position thirteen which is number 36 we arrive at position nineteen which is number 5, 36 pockets from position thirteen which is number 36 we arrive at position twelve which is number 13, 16 pockets from position thirteen which is number 36 we arrive at position twentynine which is number 18, 27 pockets from position thirteen which is number 36 we arrive at position three which is number 19, 12 pockets from position thirteen which is number 36 we arrive at position twentyfive which is number 14, 11 pockets from position thirteen which is number 36 we arrive at position twentyfour which is number 20, numbers 5, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20 and 24 are not in ''numbers'' list, no bet.
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9th 8 - 3 number 8 was a repeat, thus not to be placed again on "numbers" list,
the pockets' difference from number 36 (previous) to number 8 (last), been written on the "pockets" list, 7 pockets from position sixteen which is number 8 we arrive at position twentythree which is number 1, 6 pockets from position sixteen which is number 8 we arrive at position twenty-two which is number 33, 36 pockets from position sixteen which is number 8 we arrive at position fifteen which is number 30, 16 pockets from position sixteen which is number 8 we arrive at position thirtytwo which is number 28, 27 pockets from position sixteen which is number 8 we arrive at position six which is number 2, 12 pockets from position sixteen which is number 8 we arrive at position twentyeight which is number 22, 11 pockets from position sixteen which is number 8 we arrive at position twentyseven which is number 9, 3 pockets from position sixteen which is number 8 we arrive at position nineteen which is number 5, numbers 1, 2, 5, 22, 28 and 30 are not in ''numbers'' list, but numbers 9 and 33 are, bet 9 and 33.
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10th 6 6 31 we placed 6 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 8 (previous) to number 6 (last), on the "pockets" list, 7 pockets from position ten which is number 6 we arrive at position seventeen which is number 23, 6 pockets from position ten which is number 6 we arrive at position sixteen which is number 8, 36 pockets from position ten which is number 6 we arrive at position nine which is number 34, 16 pockets from position ten which is number 6 we arrive at position twentysix which is number 31, 27 pockets from position ten which is number 6 we arrive at position zero which is number 0, 12 pockets from position ten which is number 6 we arrive at position twenty-two which is number 33, 11 pockets from position ten which is number 6 we arrive at position twentyone which is number 16, 3 pockets from position ten which is number 6 we arrive at position thirteen which is number 36, 31 pockets from position ten which is number 6 we arrive at position four which is number 4, numbers 4, 23 and 31 are not in ''numbers'' list, but numbers 0, 8, 16, 33, 34 and 36 are, bet 0, 8, 16, 33, 34 and 36.
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11th 24 24 10 we placed 24 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 6 (previous) to number 24 (last), on the "pockets" list, 7 pockets from position twenty which is number 24 we arrive at position twentyseven which is number 9, 6 pockets from position twenty which is number 24 we arrive at position twentysix which is number 31, 36 pockets from position twenty which is number 24 we arrive at position nineteen which is number 5, 16 pockets from position twenty which is number 24 we arrive at position thirtysix which is number 26, 27 pockets from position twenty which is number 24 we arrive at position ten which is number 6, 12 pockets from position twenty which is number 24 we arrive at position thirtytwo which is number 28, 11 pockets from position twenty which is number 24 we arrive at position thirtyone which is number 7, 3 pockets from position twenty which is number 24 we arrive at position twentythree which is number 1, 31 pockets from position twenty which is number 24 we arrive at position fourteen which is number 11, 10 pockets from position twenty which is number 24 we arrive at position thirty which is number 29, numbers 1, 5, 7, 11, 26, 28, 29 and 31 are not in ''numbers'' list, but numbers 6 and 9 are, bet 6 and 9.
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12th 5 5 - we placed 5 on "numbers" list but didn't write pockets' difference because 36 pockets were already there, 7 pockets from position nineteen which is number 5 we arrive at position twentysix which is number 31, 6 pockets from position nineteen which is number 5 we arrive at position twentyfive which is number 14, 36 pockets from position nineteen which is number 5 we arrive at position eighteen which is number 10, 16 pockets from position nineteen which is number 5 we arrive at position thirtyfive which is number 3, 27 pockets from position nineteen which is number 5 we arrive at position nine which is number 34, 12 pockets from position nineteen which is number 5 we arrive at position thirtyone which is number 7, 11 pockets from position nineteen which is number 5 we arrive at position thirty which is number 29, 3 pockets from position nineteen which is number 5 we arrive at position twenty-two which is number 33, 31 pockets from position nineteen which is number 5 we arrive at position thirteen which is number 36, 10 pockets from position nineteen which is number 5 we arrive at position twentynine which is number 18, numbers 3, 7, 10, 14, 18, 29 and 31 are not in ''numbers'' list, but numbers 33, 34 and 36 are, bet 33, 34 and 36.
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13th 28 28 13 we placed 28 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 5 (previous) to number 28 (last), on the "pockets" list, 7 pockets from position thirtytwo which is number 28 we arrive at position two which is number 15, 6 pockets from position thirtytwo which is number 28 we arrive at position one which is number 32, 36 pockets from position thirtytwo which is number 28 we arrive at position thirtyone which is number 7, 16 pockets from position thirtytwo which is number 28 we arrive at position eleven which is number 27, 27 pockets from position thirtytwo which is number 28 we arrive at position twenty-two which is number 33, 12 pockets from position thirtytwo which is number 28 we arrive at position seven which is number 25, 11 pockets from position thirtytwo which is number 28 we arrive at position six which is number 2, 3 pockets from position thirtytwo which is number 28 we arrive at position thirtyfive which is number 3, 31 pockets from position thirtytwo which is number 28 we arrive at position twentysix which is number 31, 10 pockets from position thirtytwo which is number 28 we arrive at position five which is number 21, 13 pockets from position thirtytwo which is number 28 we arrive at position eight which is number 17, numbers 2, 3, 7, 17, 21, 25, 27 and 31 are not in ''numbers'' list, but numbers 15 and 33 are, bet 15 and 33.
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14th 33 - - here we had a match, the perfect combination of number and pockets' difference repeat! number 33 hit on 3rd spin and 27 pockets difference was on 6th spin, this is what we are looking for! We should find at least one such case in every 37 spins.The catch is that if we start betting from the first spins, our number could delay and our bets would increase significantly, that's why I strongly recommend to start betting on 21st spin till you win or up to and including 37th spin.Now let's continue to see if there is another match on this 37 spins cycle.
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15th 7 7 9 we placed 7 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 33 (previous) to number 7 (last), on the "pockets" list.
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16th 3 3 4 we placed 3 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 7 (previous) to number 7 (last), on the "pockets" list.
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17th 4 4 - we placed 4 on "numbers" list but didn't write pockets' difference because 6 pockets were already there.
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18th 26 26 32 we placed 26 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 4 (previous) to number 26 (last), on the "pockets" list.
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19th 34 - - here we had another match, the combination of number and pockets' difference repeat. Number 34 hit on 1st spin and 10 pockets difference was on 11th spin, this what we are looking for! Let's see if there's another one.
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20th 2 2 34 we placed 2 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 34 (previous) to number 2 (last), on the "pockets" list.
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21st 36 - - here we had another match, the combination of number and pockets' difference repeat. Number 36 hit on 8th spin and 7 pockets difference was on 2nd spin, this is what we are looking for! Let's see if there's another one.
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22nd 4 - 28 number 4 was a repeat, thus not to be placed again on "numbers" list,
the pockets' difference from number 36 (previous) to number 4 (last), was 28.
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23rd 0 0 33 we placed 0 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 4 (previous) to number 0 (last), on the "pockets" list.
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24th 24 - 20 number 24 was a repeat, thus not to be placed again on "numbers" list, the pockets' difference from number 0 (previous) to number 24 (last), was 20.
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25th 10 10 35 we placed 10 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 24 (previous) to number 10 (last), on the "pockets" list.
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26th 8 - - here we had another match, the combination of number and pockets' difference repeat. Number 8 hit on 2nd and 9th spin, while 35 pockets difference was on 25th spin, this is what we are looking for.
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27th 13
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28th 14
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29th 6
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30th 13
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31st 6
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32nd 20
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33rd 26
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34th 9
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35th 16
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36th 3
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37th 6
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End of session, restart the procedure for new session.
Not every cycle of 37 spins contains so many winning opportunities, we should expect only 1 per cycle.
Timing is essential, start too early and you would increase bets when this method aims to win only by flat stakes, begin too late and you would miss your chance for winning.
In first case you are taking an unnecessary risk by betting more spins and money than needed, on the second you are wasting time by missing your chance and restarting procedure from scratch.
You should always aim to manage your available resources (time and money) effectively.
By now it should be understood how and why this method works, not much time and money is needed, but you have to practice a bit in order to familiarize with it.
The greatest obstacle you have to tackle is when the dealer is spinning fast, thus not much time for notes, calculations and betting, my suggestion is to use it on very busy tables, with 6 to 8 players, this way you will attract less attention and have more time.
Less time could make miss some bets or make mistaken calculations which leads to wrong bets and loss of money.
Obviously this method is not meant for RNG's, however, I've not tried it on those algorithms.
QuoteWhat's the square root of 666? 25.8 but let's round it up to the nearest whole number, the 26.
26 doesn't referring to number 26 but as duration, 26 spins.
Why 26 spins? What is 26 spins?-Blue Angel
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Have you been taking lessons from that fruit cake XX__on the other forum? ::)
Quote from: The General on Sep 05, 01:24 PM 2016
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Have you been taking lessons from that fruit cake XX__on the other forum? ::)
Nice to hear from you Caleb, are you still playing roulette or have been banned from all US casinos?
Last time I was at Vegas you found an excuse to avoid meeting me.
Perhaps you didn't expect me to did what I said, sometimes I'm very serious about what I'm talking about, just for your information.
QuoteLast time I was at Vegas you found an excuse to avoid meeting me.-Blue
Are you delusional?
Quote from: The General on Sep 05, 01:48 PM 2016
Are you delusional?
Why?
Don't you remember we spoke and you told me that you are frequently visiting Vegas, you asked me when I'll be there and informed you.
But then you didn't even send me a message when I was there, not that we had a date but it was your idea in the first place, so I thought why not, I'm going to Vegas anyway why not to meet there some local forum trolls!
Where are your excuses General, have run out of them??
My challenge to you is the following, bring any bankroll you like at any Vegas casino with single 0 wheel, on 7 days head to head who is going to have more profit at the end!
I've thrown my glove, are you going to pick it up or find another cheap excuse??
He is a different guy via PM
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 05, 02:12 PM 2016
He is a different guy via PM
You might have a point, but have you ever spoke with him out of forums?
I did...
QuoteDon't you remember we spoke and you told me that you are frequently visiting Vegas, you asked me when I'll be there and informed you.
But then you didn't even send me a message when I was there, not that we had a date but it was your idea in the first place, so I thought why not, I'm going to Vegas anyway why not to meet there some local forum trolls!
Blue,
I don't live on the forums like you guys do. ::) I travel a great deal. Often to Vegas, and other destinations. Contrary to what you may think, I don't stop what I'm doing in order to make special travel plans to fly out and meet system junkies 1350 miles away, just because they may be in town. ::) If I was in town when you were there then I would have considered watching you play. But I wasn't, so I didn't.
QuoteMy challenge to you is the following, bring any bankroll you like at any Vegas casino with single 0 wheel, on 7 days head to head who is going to have more profit at the end!-Blue
Most system junkies are dead broke, so I don't believe for one minute that you have even two nickles to scrape together, so the odds of you ever making it to Vegas are remote at best. ::)
Quote from: The General on Sep 05, 02:23 PM 2016
Blue,
I don't live on the forums like you guys do. ::) I travel a great deal. Often to Vegas, and other destinations. Contrary to what you may think, I don't stop what I'm doing in order to make special travel plans to fly out and meet system junkies 1350 miles away, just because they may be in town. ::) If I was in town when you were there then I would have considered watching you play. But I wasn't, so I didn't.
Most system junkies are dead broke, so I don't believe for one minute that you have even two nickles to scrape together, so the odds of you ever making it to Vegas are remote at best. ::)
You may assume what you want but since you gave me the opportunity, I'll let you know that I've traveled for leisure and business (gambling) at more countries than you can imagine.
You on the other hand, living in one of the last states I'd wanted to live at USA, traveling frequently but only within the borders of your country (Mexico or Canada would be a big step for you), speaking only your native language and even that sometimes not so well, under every possible aspect you are inferior.
I could mention much more but let's just leave it here for now.
QuoteWhat's the square root of 666? 25.8 but let's round it up to the nearest whole number, the 26.
26 doesn't referring to number 26 but as duration, 26 spins.
Why 26 spins? What is 26 spins?-Blue Angel-Blue Angel
Blue,
What's the point of the absurd paragraph above?
Quote from: The General on Sep 05, 02:40 PM 2016
Blue,
What's the point of the absurd paragraph above?
For you to ponder.
Both you and XX__ do the same thing as part of your "build up". Why?
"Other principles overlap but are relevant to time/space; in particular, focus. Focus is total concentration on the moment and the space that connects such as a few spins prior and after. Focus avoids extra risk but eliminating hunches, vague ideas, theories and chance. Focus concentrates on what you know, from prior experience of the bet characteristic patterns unfolding before you, and thus what is most likely to happen next. This is a window into randomness, and a framework from which to build a short play which more often than not will provide profit. It will not work always but by careful timing and good judgement there will be more wins than losses, and a net profit will ensue. It is very simple and that is just MB16 - an application of a losing bet but which can be a winning strategy."
Do you guys compete to see who can come up with the most absurd BS? ::)
Quote from: The General on Sep 05, 02:23 PM 2016I don't live on the forums like you guys do.
Lol....says "Mr 613 posts"
Quote from: The General on Sep 05, 02:48 PM 2016
Both you and XX__ do the same thing as part of your "build up". Why?
Stupid questions attract stupid answers.
QuoteLol....says "Mr 613 posts"
I know right?
I've got a long ways to go in order to catch up with you guys. :thumbsup:
When do you guys get exercise anyway?
Another day of judging people and making assumptions
Sigh
QuoteAnother day of judging people and making assumptions
Sigh-Ghost
No no... those pants don't make you look fat. :xd:
Can't you ever just be a nice cool guy? Part of the forum? Must you be a dick everyday?
I understand as does evryoneelse you are anti roulette systems. Unfortunately thats what the forum is for. Lol
You are fighting a never ending battle
Everyday that you come to this forum you are in full knights armor with sword drawn ready for battle. Don't you ever get tired of that?
Literally all your interactions here are clashes. I hope that doesn't extend to your life off the internet.
I think you care a little too much about people making systems and using their personal money to play as they wish. Not everyone seeks to beat the game based on flaws
I share the same hatred for scammers that you do. But guys like myself, and guys much better then myself like making methods and testing them
Don't fault people so much
Im a system player. That doesnt mean i dont habe 2 nickels tonr rub together as you put it. I live a life as most here do
Maybe take off your body armor every once in awhile and come here NOT ready for battle.
If you come everyday ready for battle you will find one. It sucks. And hurts the integrity of the forum
Its a bit much now.
It's like you don't believe in God and you are going from church to church, from synagogue to synagogue and insulting believers by telling them that they believe in nothing, in something non existent.
Someone who embraces no religious faith just doesn't bother by going to religious gatherings and claiming to believers that what they believe are rubbish.
So why? Do you want to help us by annoying, disturbing, derailing...?
Thank you very much but we didn't ask for your help, we don't want such ''help''!
Common sense seems not to be your best friend.
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Sep 05, 03:44 PM 2016It's like you don't believe in God and you are going from church to church
Get your own analogy. Thats mine lol
You guys are soo hypersensitive. ::)
Why do you post on a roulette forum? Don't you know other people may have opposing points of view and my have a better understanding of the facts than you? They may even choose to share it too! Oh...the horror! ::)
How do you guys function in the real world? When someone says something that you don't agree with do you just put your hands over your years and start humming?
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Come on. Thats funny
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Quote from: The General on Sep 05, 04:30 PM 2016
How do you guys function in the real world? When someone says something that you don't agree with do you just put your hands over your years and start humming?
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Acknowledge my long post please
Be a dick maybe a little less? Be a cool dude every so often
Be a bro every now and then instead of a foe
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Sep 05, 12:18 PM 2016SPIN TROT "NUMBERS" "POCKETS"
23rd 0 0 33 we placed 0 on "numbers" list and also wrote the pockets' difference, from number 4 (previous) to number 0 (last), on the "pockets" list.
Blue,
Is there a reason why you have "0" in number's? 0 was originally seen at spin 5.
Quote from: Azim on Sep 05, 09:33 PM 2016
Blue,
Is there a reason why you have "0" in number's? 0 was originally seen at spin 5.
You are right, no need to write it again.
Just don't forget to feedback.
Can you confirm if this is right..
If it is can you please do a bet selection from this one..When to start betting etc etc..
Please...
Quote from: Azim on Sep 05, 10:34 PM 2016
Can you confirm if this is right..
If it is can you please do a bet selection from this one..When to start betting etc etc..
Please...
If you use only 'numbers' & 'pockets'
my optimal spin to start betting is the
21st, but if you use all 3 lists, including 'time',
my optimum becomes
26th spin till a win or up to and including 37th spin.
Important! when you win you have to restart the whole process from scratch!
k ty.
We start betting at spin 21.
If win we re-track, which is any number or only if positive bankroll?
When do you stop tracking the current session, if there is no win?
Quote from: Azim on Sep 06, 10:00 AM 2016
We start betting at spin 21.
If win we re-track, which is any number or only if positive bankroll?
When do you stop tracking the current session, if there is no win?
A win guarantee a net profit at any spin achieved, in order not to win you have to reach 37th spin without a win, in that case, which is highly unlikely to occur, you restart.
In other words you restart after every win or when you reach 37th spin without a win.
I'd recommend 72 to 108 units bankroll, for me session BR and lifetime BR is one and the same.
Where should you finish a session it's totally up to you, I aim to win approximately 100 units per session.
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Sep 06, 10:10 AM 2016A win guarantee a net profit at any spin achieved, in order not to win you have to reach 37th spin without a win, in that case, which is highly unlikely to occur, you restart.
In other words you restart after every win or when you reach 37th spin without a win.
Hitting a number from the selection, has happened before spin 37, however the bankroll is negative.
I keep betting to spin 37 and restart again.
The only time I have had positive bankroll before spin 37 is if I get 3-4 hits from 21- 37.
Quote from: Azim on Sep 06, 10:23 AM 2016
Hitting a number from the selection, has happened before spin 37, however the bankroll is negative.
I keep betting to spin 37 and restart again.
The only time I have had positive bankroll before spin 37 is if I get 3-4 hits from 21- 37.
This is
not the way I'm using it, I aim for
only 1 win per cycle/round.I never continue on the same set of numbers after the first win, so there are 2 available options if you've reached the point where your next bet must go to 2 units per number in order to achieve an overall profit and the second option is to keep it flat till the first win occur and then restart from scratch.
Personally I prefer the first option because I always get at least 1 win within 37 spins, the second option it's entirely flat, nothing wrong with that but takes longer to come back after a late win.
I don't think I have it wrong. Unless I have misunderstood you.
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It's like filtering out false positives by applying a double or triple filter, each list is a filter.
Takes more time but improves predictions' accuracy significantly.
I have tried a few 1000 spin files.
Not trying to curve fit but trying to change some parameters and starting to bet is only one that makes sense.
Early hits give you a good profit and re-track again.
Waiting for 21 spin need some sort of progression.
Like I said before minimum 3 hits after 21 spins, is what i have seen so far...
If you look at the 37 spin cycle, we have 4 wins.
If you explain we can try and add time factor to see if it improves.
Quote from: Azim on Sep 06, 01:12 PM 2016
I have tried a few 1000 spin files.
Not trying to curve fit but trying to change some parameters and starting to bet is only one that makes sense.
Early hits give you a good profit and re-track again.
Waiting for 21 spin need some sort of progression.
Like I said before minimum 3 hits after 21 spins, is what i have seen so far...
If you explain we can try and add time factor to see if it improves.
You may start anytime you like, but my personal experience by playing at live tables of BM casinos is that not all sets of 37 spins provide many repeats, in other words opportunities for bets and profit should not be considered as plenty, therefore by starting on first spins what would happen if there is only 1 win late on the cycle??
I prefer to win only once per cycle and enter on 21st (for 2 lists) or 26th spin (for 3 lists).
Use it as you like, but don't blame me if you decide to do it otherwise.
Not going to blame you or anyone when it comes to gambling.
I liked the concept and decided to play with it.
Well I will leave it as is for now.. Unless someone can think of anything else.
Timing is essential, start too early and you would increase bets when this method aims to win only by flat stakes, begin too late and you would miss your chance for winning.
In first case you are taking an unnecessary risk by betting more spins and money than needed, on the second you are wasting time by missing your chance and restarting procedure from scratch.
You should always aim to manage your available resources (time and money) effectively.
By now it should be understood how and why this method works, not much time and money is needed, but you have to practice a bit in order to familiarize with it.
The greatest obstacle you have to tackle is when the dealer is spinning fast, thus not much time for notes, calculations and betting, my suggestion is to use it on very busy tables, with 6 to 8 players, this way you will attract less attention and have more time.
Less time could make miss some bets or make mistaken calculations which leads to wrong bets and loss of money.
Obviously this method is not meant for RNG's, however, I've not tried it on those algorithms.
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Sep 06, 01:31 PM 2016Obviously this method is not meant for RNG's, however, I've not tried it on those algorithms.
I had to use my live dealer spins to make it work. I couldn't get it to profit on RNG files
Quote from: Azim on Sep 06, 01:56 PM 2016
I had to use my live dealer spins to make it work. I couldn't get it to profit on RNG files
Apparently, what "pockets" have to do with RNG's ?!
Common sense after all.
A dealer can repeat the same distance and land the ball at different pocket, also a dealer can repeat the same pocket with different distance (of pockets).
It's just the force of habit, events which tend to repeat again and again, inbuilt on roulette's nature.
After all you might beat everything but not your own nature.
It must be within the person to think, because live dealer was mentioned. RNG will not work.
Never know with life and roulette in general.
Blue,
Why don't you take into account wheel speed and spin direction?
Quote from: The General on Sep 06, 08:21 PM 2016
Blue,
Why don't you take into account wheel speed and spin direction?
I didn't want to make it more complicated than what already is.
Sometimes dealers are giving me hard time by spinning quickly from one spin to the next, it would become unplayable if I added more conditions and rules.
Quoteit would become unplayable if I added more conditions and rules.
You just need a little practice. For starters, memorize the wheel. Next build a model for each of your offset distances and memorize it too.
You can add multiple offset distances in pockets to match each one of the different wheel speeds and to compensate for changing ball distances and for each wheel spin direction.
Quote from: The General on Sep 07, 11:23 AM 2016
You just need a little practice. For starters, memorize the wheel. Next build a model for each of your offset distances and memorize it too.
You can add multiple offset distances in pockets to match each one of the different wheel speeds and to compensate for changing ball distances and for each wheel spin direction.
I've already memorized the wheel long time ago, I do not even look at it in order to calculate distances.
Yet again, as the numbers on the lists grows, calculations need more and more time.
Thanks for your suggestion but I don't want to do it more complicated.
Blue,
In it's current form, what you're doing won't work.
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Sep 07, 08:02 AM 2016
Sometimes dealers are giving me hard time by spinning quickly from one spin to the next.
(Umm, yep)
Its funny how everything said on this board (as if its Christmas or something) I have already said multiple times (lol)
(a different thread) "betting only a few numbers works best" Really? (lol)
(a different thread) "forget a progression, flat betting is better" Really? (lol)
Come on guys, this game is not that damn tough.
Ken
Quote from: Blue_Angel on Sep 07, 12:46 PM 2016
I've already memorized the wheel long time ago, I do not even look at it in order to calculate distances.
Very smart, good job blue!
Ken