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Title: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: The General on Sep 03, 11:02 PM 2016
On the live wheels, the zeros are often a bad bet.  Having tracked zillions of wheels over the years for bias, I've found that the zeros are often quite random to negatively biased.  The reason is that they're often the most heavily bet numbers.  Consequently they get a little extra attention from the casino when it comes to the cleaning and maintenance of the wheel.  A hedge bet on the zeros serves no purpose, and opens the door for a loss that could theoretically exceed the normal house edge due to a negative bias.

Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 03, 11:03 PM 2016
0 is as likely to be hit as any number

phst

enough fallacy caleb....its misinformation....

this post is B.S.

due to variance/luck ive won on 0 man times, just as i have on 9 or 11.....all the same
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: The General on Sep 03, 11:11 PM 2016
Quote0 is as likely to be hit as any number

phst

enough fallacy caleb....its misinformation....


Some of us have a bit more experience that others.  ;)

Quotedue to variance/luck ive won on 0 man times, just as i have on 9 or 11.....all the same

I've no doubt that you've probably won $30 to possibly as much as $100 before.  So good for you.   ::)
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 03, 11:15 PM 2016
so you are saying they clean the 0 pocket so it hits less

in the millions of spins spectrum it is equal to the other numbers

dont spread this junk

you are what i thought

fallacy

trump master flex......... thinks 0 hits less LOL
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: The General on Sep 03, 11:19 PM 2016
Quotein the millions of spins spectrum it is equal to the other numbers

Not according to my millions of spins.  You're limited experience differs from mine.  ::)
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 03, 11:20 PM 2016
Quote from: The General on Sep 03, 11:19 PM 2016
Not according to my millions of spins.

OH OK!

u slam people on forums for stuff like this

thats what you got?

0 hits less because the casino windexes it?

gimme a break

fallacy and wishful thinking

variance

same chances

come on man
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: Scarface on Sep 03, 11:22 PM 2016
Seems like they would do this on #17.  I read somewhere that was the most bet number since it's in the the center.  Not sure how true this is
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 03, 11:22 PM 2016
Quote from: Scarface on Sep 03, 11:22 PM 2016
Seems like they would do this on #17.  I read somewhere that was the most bet number since it's in the the center.  Not sure how true this is

my local casino loads up on the 17

and when it hits you hear cheers of "SEE!" "SEE!"
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: The General on Sep 03, 11:25 PM 2016
Ghost,

In your casino you don't have a live dealer game.


In the US, the first bet the roulette junkies bet is a split on the zeros, and then a bet straight up on both zeros.  Too many players can't bare seeing a number hit that they're not on.  Especially the zeros.
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 03, 11:48 PM 2016
Bull

Junkies in your opinion

You are a junkie to
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: MrJ on Sep 04, 12:39 PM 2016
Quote from: The General on Sep 03, 11:25 PM 2016
Ghost,

In your casino you don't have a live dealer game.


In the US, the first bet the roulette junkies bet is a split on the zeros, and then a bet straight up on both zeros.  Too many players can't bare seeing a number hit that they're not on.  Especially the zeros.

Here's the other thing I see/hear a lot....."Look, the zeros have not hit in awhile".

(lol) They never say, the 35 & 9 have not hit in awhile. Everyone loves focusing on the zeros, big deal.

Ken
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: The General on Sep 04, 12:45 PM 2016
QuoteHere's the other thing I see/hear a lot....."Look, the zeros have not hit in awhile".

Exactly!  There are so many fools out there.
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 04, 12:48 PM 2016
the pedestal you put yourself on is quite annoying

what makes these people fools?

these people have lives outside gambling

most people there in the casino playing roulette are not attempting to make a living. they are having a fun night out with friends. if they win they win if they lose they lose.

so what if someone is gambling and says the 0 has not hit in awhile

leave people alone

there is nothing special about you playing for a living, thats what you choose to do

stop judging people

its a sign of weakness

99 percent of the people at the B and M are playing for fun recreationally with disposable money

everyone is either a fool, a rookie, or "not a man"

give it a break guys...

you spend most of your time here judging people....give it up...its not cool anymore...you are not going to change how people play

it is not relevant if you think the way someone plays is silly

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Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: MrJ on Sep 04, 12:53 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 04, 12:48 PM 2016

Everyone is either a fool, a rookie, or "not a man"




If the shoe fits.
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 04, 12:55 PM 2016
my rates are cute

every negative rate i have is the general or mr j

its cute

the bromance
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: MrJ on Sep 04, 12:56 PM 2016
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 04, 12:39 PM 2016
Here's the other thing I see/hear a lot....."Look, the zeros have not hit in awhile".

(lol) They never say, the 35 & 9 have not hit in awhile. Everyone loves focusing on the zeros, big deal.

Ken

Along the same lines....I'll be playing and somebody comes up to me and asks, have the zeros hit lately? (lol) Why is it, nobody ever asks me....has the 35 & 9 hit lately?

Come on RG, you dont see the irony in this?

Ken
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: MrJ on Sep 04, 12:58 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 04, 12:55 PM 2016
my rates are cute

every negative rate i have is the general or mr j

its cute

the bromance

You have said many times...you dont care about the +/- thingie. Now you do?

Ken
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 04, 01:17 PM 2016
Heres what i see

Yourself and caleb do nothing on this forum except for judge people and methods negatively

Thats it

Oh and the occasional bromance pat on the back from mr j to caleb

How can a forum be productive when all you 2 thundercats do is judge people

Enough already. You take people for fools and goofs

You know what i learned in life? Someone who spends all their time judging others are the ones that live in the glass house themselves

We know your viewpoints. Dont need to hear it everyday. Unless your life is that boring

Everyday on this forum you two do nothing but put people down. Steve allows it god knows why

Fellow members

Do me a favor

If you agree with this post give it a thumbs up. If you dont agree give it a thumbs down

I wont be offended
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: Turner on Sep 04, 01:27 PM 2016
Im not religeous by any stretch....but I do sit in churches...family and architecture reasons
I would feel most annoyed if someone was in there shouting "there is no God" over and over
And I agree with them  :o
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 04, 01:56 PM 2016
Placing one self on a pedestal and looking down on others while making nothing but assumptions is not appealing

How could anyone want to learn anything from that person

I love astronomy. You could be telling me fantastic things i had no clue about regarding astronomy. I wouldnt enjoy it from beneath the pedestal

Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: The General on Sep 04, 08:00 PM 2016
Ghost,

Given that you're not much of a math guy...you strike me as being more of an Astrology guy rather than an Astronomer.  I bet your big into numerology too.   ;)
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 04, 08:06 PM 2016
Quote from: The General on Sep 04, 08:00 PM 2016
Ghost,

Given that you're not much of a math guy...you strike me as being more of an Astrology guy rather than an Astronomer.  I bet your big into numerology too.   ;)

No

I love science. Astronomy. Physics

Roulette is a hobby

You are a sick man do you know that?

Should worry about yourself :)

Mr. i make assumptions about people
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: The General on Sep 04, 08:14 PM 2016
Ghostboy,

I see that you've made 5,463 posts on this forum.  How is that even possible given the short amount of time that you've been on this forum?  :o
Also, are you familiar with the term bipolar?  :o

Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 04, 08:14 PM 2016
Quote from: The General on Sep 04, 08:14 PM 2016
Ghost,

I see that you've made 5,463 posts on this forum.  How is that even possible given the short amount of time that you've been on this forum?  :o
Also, are you familiar with the term bipolar?  :o

I am done with you
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: The General on Sep 04, 08:18 PM 2016
Ghostboy,

Here's my advise.  Take a break from the forums for a while and spend a little more time with your friends and family.  It appears as though you spend your entire day here, instead of with them.  :o  Kind of weird don't you think?   :o
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 04, 08:26 PM 2016
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Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: The General on Sep 04, 09:30 PM 2016
Turner,

A troll has polluted my thread.  Can we by chance clean it up a little bit?   ;)


Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Stay Off Of The Zeros
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 04, 09:35 PM 2016
Cant take the heat get out the kitchen boy.

For as long as you are here I will be to

Get used to it sucker