@Steve >> Since its locked, I have to do this. So in essence, you are putting possible infractions on other peoples OPINIONS, correct?
I feel that something Billy Bob said is WRONG so I give him a thumbs down.
Then, an RF action assault team jumps into play to decide if its warranted or not? Am I missing something?
Other question regarding giving thumbs UP.....this is only for NEWER members, not to abuse it?
I happen to think General sir and Tamino are great guys with lots of knowledge, I really enjoy their posts.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 07, 10:29 PM 2016So in essence, you are putting possible infractions on other peoples OPINIONS, correct?
No what I'm doing is using my best judgement on votes that are unjustified. Like if:
1. someone says they like a movie, and
2. another member votes to "dislike" the person, and
3. The person that voted obvious has a personal grudge against the poster, and
4. the person who voted has lots of votes as per above rules, but mostly negative votes towards particular members,
Then its reasonable to assume its a "spite vote".
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 07, 10:29 PM 2016I feel that something Billy Bob said is WRONG so I give him a thumbs down.
Yes thats fine. See the above for my loose criteria for votes that were just removed. I did not spend a lot of time carefully considering each and every vote. For now I just cleaned it up a little. It's not all that important. But now that I've made my intentions clear, people need to be careful that they dont go voting negatively on every little thing their "adversary" posts.
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 07, 10:29 PM 2016Other question regarding giving thumbs UP.....this is only for NEWER members, not to abuse it?
Newer members cant vote at all.
Hi Steve,
both topics of yours are useless! (spites and help yourself)
If I "report" a post, days later I get an automated reply, that you are very busy. That helps a lot. Thx.
If a MrJ spites on me, just because I started a new topic, should I report and react on a trolls action?
And if this Troll and his best friend/enemy enter my topic and destroy it just for fun or any other reason, i just stop posting.
The shelter of "No AP-players" is no shelter anymore.
Winkel
I did offer to keep your posts clean...just PM me
Many do
Quote from: winkel on Sep 08, 04:44 AM 2016both topics of yours are useless! (spites and help yourself)
Ok, members shouldn't report bad behavior, and nothing should be done about clear abuse of the rating system.
Quote from: winkel on Sep 08, 04:44 AM 2016If I "report" a post, days later I get an automated reply, that you are very busy. That helps a lot. Thx.
When you report a post, ALL mods receive email notification. Then whichever mod gets to it first takes appropriate action. So actually you're talking about all mods, not just me.
In most cases, reported issues are dealt with within 6 hours. Often less than an hour. I dont know what "automated reply" you're talking about. You're kicking up a fuss about nothing.
Quote from: winkel on Sep 08, 04:44 AM 2016If a MrJ spites on me, just because I started a new topic, should I report and react on a trolls action?
Yes if you think reporting is justified. Then I'll look into it and make a decision, as per the rules.
Quote from: winkel on Sep 08, 04:44 AM 2016And if this Troll and his best friend/enemy enter my topic and destroy it just for fun or any other reason, i just stop posting. The shelter of "No AP-players" is no shelter anymore.
Winkel you are over-reacting. I actually dont recall any particular time you contacted me to complain about anything. But if anyone complains about something, I do take action, and am fair. Im sure many members here will support this.
Rather than criticize for nothing, just report any behavior against the rules and we'll deal with it. Dont make a big drama out of it.
The point is trying to have a working forum
Some people come in full riot gear everyday
Pounding the same thing in even off topic threads
Disruptive
Caleb had a gamblers fallacy remark in conspiracy thread. For no reason. That is the definition of trolling. A mod deleted it. But thats an example of the stupidity that makes this hard
If you moderate caleb it will help. This way if it is an antagonizing post it never makes it to the board.
You cannot be good for a forum if every interaction is berating people and putting them down. 98 percent of his posts.
We dont live in a perfect world and neither can we expect a perfect forum.We can`t say "stop the world , I wanne get off " .
Accept things as they are and NOT as we wISH or DEMAND them to be .
Cpmpromise, compromise.
Quote from: winkel on Sep 08, 04:44 AM 2016
The shelter of "No AP-players" is no shelter anymore.
Then this may become an issue? If I'm not into AP (not bashing it) but also believe you guys (95% of you) are so far out in space, I dont believe in your off the wall goofy systems, can I still POLITELY add a comment? I have asked *SEVERAL* times, do NOT lump me in with your Little Rascals crew. I will NOT be put in the same group as the "insurance on zeros could work" crew.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 08, 02:43 PM 2016
Then this may become an issue? If I'm not into AP (not bashing it) but also believe you guys (95% of you) are so far out in space, I dont believe in your off the wall goofy systems, can I still POLITELY add a comment? I have asked *SEVERAL* times, do NOT lump me in with your Little Rascals crew. I will NOT be put in the same group as the "insurance on zeros could work" crew.
Ken
Ok so of you do not play AP
Then you are either
A) playing some type of method
Or
B) random betting
Therefore any goofy method has the same HE and chances of winning as your superior methods
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 08, 02:48 PM 2016
Ok so of you do not play AP
Then you are either
A) playing some type of method
Or
B) random betting
Therefore any goofy method has the same HE and chances of winning as your superior methods
I am not arguing that you and I are both playing "some form" of a method/system.
You are trying to group me in with "your type" of posters and its insulting. I have worked too hard to be lumped in with....Albalaha, RouletteGhost, Kav and that other guy...Ken, thats his name. (no fu***n way) !!!!
Ken
Im no albalaha or kav
To group me with them is insanity
But i dont care who you group me with. Its the internets.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 08, 03:06 PM 2016
Im no albalaha or kav
To group me with them is insanity
But i dont care who you group me with. Its the internets.
Its "you people", the AP's and then my group along with Turbo (lol), small group.
Ken
Alright.
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 08, 02:43 PM 2016
Then this may become an issue? If I'm not into AP (not bashing it) but also believe you guys (95% of you) are so far out in space, I dont believe in your off the wall goofy systems, can I still POLITELY add a comment? I have asked *SEVERAL* times, do NOT lump me in with your Little Rascals crew. I will NOT be put in the same group as the "insurance on zeros could work" crew.
Ken
So where did you "still POLITELY add a comment?" in my topic "aka Mitch"?
Or was this "Jizz on you" your polite comment?
Quote from: winkel on Sep 08, 04:47 PM 2016
So where did you "still POLITELY add a comment?" in my topic "aka Mitch"?
Or was this "Jizz on you" your polite comment?
I know your frustration
I apologize to you for arguing with him in your thread
However do not let HIM win. Carry on winkel
I will tidy it up. Cabel guys let me down. Tomorrow allegedly
my cousin was stationed in englad
had an apartment by london
said the cable company there sucked
Quote from: winkel on Sep 08, 04:47 PM 2016
So where did you "still POLITELY add a comment?" in my topic "aka Mitch"?
Or was this "Jizz on you" your polite comment?
Yes, it was the Jizz on you......polite comment!
Ken
Let's not get so offended by being jizzzed on. Its just a bit of fun.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 08, 06:58 PM 2016
Let's not get so offended by being jizzzed on. Its just a bit of fun.
I aim for the eyes...100 points!
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 08, 07:03 PM 2016
I aim for the eyes...100 points!
Ken
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lmao
Quote from: Steve on Sep 08, 06:58 PM 2016
Let's not get so offended by being jizzzed on. Its just a bit of fun.
Steve, It was not the Jizz I was complaining about. His 20 posts there had nothing to do with "comment" and weren´t polite at all.
Quote from: winkel on Sep 09, 05:30 AM 2016Steve, It was not the Jizz I was complaining about.
Geez thats a strange thing to read. What have I done??
Quote from: winkel on Sep 09, 05:30 AM 2016His 20 posts there had nothing to do with "comment" and weren´t polite at all.
If you find any post objectionable, report it and we can look at it. And if the response is not satisfactory, contact me privately to discuss. You haven't had much contact with me but I assure you Im a reasonable person. As it is now, I'm not sure what posts youre referring to.
I sent you two examples
I checked them both, but exactly what is wrong with those posts? He was involved in a bit of a heated personal discussion, which went two ways. He wasn't attacking anyone. More like he was expressing that he felt he was unjustly being targeted. It would have been better if he didn't bother at all, but i don't see how the posts break rules.
We should just spend more time focusing on progress instead of what are trivial issues. If we do that, then trivial issues are insignificant, as they should be.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 09, 06:44 AM 2016
I checked them both, but exactly what is wrong with those posts?
If you don´t know it by now, you will never ever know it ....
He was involved in a bit of a heated personal discussion, which went two ways.
And we can call this "polite comment" to the subject of my post?
He wasn't attacking anyone.
of course not, that holy man did it elsewhere to transport it to my thread, that I can have it as a present which is like a belt full of explosives
More like he was expressing that he felt he was unjustly being targeted. It would have been better if he didn't bother at all, but i don't see how the posts break rules.
He is "unjustly targeted"? By me? In my topic? What do I have to do with his s h i t all around this place? am I justly targeted by him? I bet you say YES!
We should just spend more time focusing on progress instead of what are trivial issues. If we do that, then trivial issues are insignificant, as they should be.
I was focusing on my topic! What was he focusing on?
I´ll give you the answer: He is doing caleb´s Job: Destroying this forum by annoying contributing users.
No one can spend more time on being constructive, when he is permanently annoyed and "jizzed on" by this a ss hole
Winkel is right steve
No offense but i don't think you know trolling sometimes
Maybe you are such a nice guy you cant get on the level to see it?
I dont know
Winkel calm down. Just let me know the exact post where you think ken began to be a troll on your thread. Give me the exact post and please calmly explain the problem.
RG, being nice or a prick has nothing to do with logic. Right now I'm trying to understand what has Winkel so upset.
So far all winkel reported is this fom ken:
Quote....and another post attacking me. RG, Turner....where you at?
QuoteNope, wrong again. I love how I get attacked and when I RESPOND, I am "looking for a rise"? Its real simple, I wont back down. Leave me alone, its not too tough.
So far it looks like a big fuss over nothing. BUT I'm asking winkel to provide the info above
Steve,
I can't read Winkel's mind.
However, everything was fine, up until Turner made a comment on reply 65.
Turner asked Ken a question on reply 68.
I think, that's what has upset Winkel.
That to me not by any means intentional on Turner's part, but made Ken answer the question. I haven't read any further.
Steve,
if you just ignore the facts that at reply #65 started a conversation, which nothing had to do with the subject of my topic, neither had anything to do with roulette, neithere had to do with me, but some conversation between turner and MrJ and but some fight between rouletteghost and MrJ and some fight between MrJ and Azim and so on.
There are more pages involving MrJ than my strategy.
And you come and tell me to be productive and I shouldn´t be overreacting. As long as your friend MrJ is politely destroying every topic, the good are the stupid and everything is fine.
Quote from: Azim on Sep 09, 08:59 AM 2016
That to me not by any means intentional on Turner's part, but made Ken answer the question.
BINGO, correct. As I have said, if you are gonna bring me up in a conversation, I will reply back.
Nothing wrong with that.
Ken
Winkel, if he was brought up in conversation, why wouldn't be post to respond to something said about him? It looks like his post was removed anyway. Why not blame the person who mentioned him in the first place? Or would it be better to just not care about what are actually trivial matters?
Really a lot of the bickering on all forums is childish and a waste of everyone's time. If some people spent as much time testing and developing systems as they spend on pointless issues, they'd probably have a winning system.
Ken, I am not stirring shit. Just laying the facts out. So, please don't attack me.
Steve, I know you have cleaned up the Karma stuff.
However, before that:
I will say how I saw things getting out of control in Winkel's thread from my side.
If you read reply #65 Turner asked Ken, how does he dislike his comment.
Ken got brought into the conversation.
RG reply #73. All his smite's were from either Ken or General.
Which made me make a point on that thread saying even mine were from Ken and General.
thing got out of control at that point.
Anyways,
To cut it short if you delete from reply #65 to reply #78 and again from reply #80 to reply #97.
That will clean up Winkel's thread. It will probably make him happy and start again on that thread.
The decision is your's.
Here is the thread in question:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17704.0
I know, we are being a pain in the a**. I am sorry from my side.
I have a simpler idea. Everyone just mind their own business and leave eachother alone, and don't get so upset if someone doesn't like you.
why have the item there, its stupid, think i'll jizz on Ken today just to stir it up a bit more, wind the big dogup
it is pretty silly ,,, you put in the smites , jizz on someone etc then complain when people use them
Quote from: Steve on Sep 09, 11:16 PM 2016
I have a simpler idea. Everyone just mind their own business
That´s what they do
and leave eachother alone,
That´s what they don´t do
and don't get so upset if someone doesn't like you.
Steve imagine a dog wets your trousers every time you are in your garden: don't get so upset if someone doesn't like you.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 09, 07:56 PM 2016
Winkel, if he was brought up in conversation, why wouldn't be post to respond to something said about him? It looks like his post was removed anyway. Why not blame the person who mentioned him in the first place? Or would it be better to just not care about what are actually trivial matters?
Really a lot of the bickering on all forums is childish and a waste of everyone's time. If some people spent as much time testing and developing systems as they spend on pointless issues, they'd probably have a winning system.
Steve, I think your not aware in how many topics they fight. And every topic ist disturbed an ruined.
And he makes people to bring him up, because it is not bareable what he is doing.
e.g. He went off this forum with a big BLABLA went to all other forums and said he would be sick reading of my topics and other things I don´t remember.
Now he is back? Why?
Nobody of his beloved enemies was there in these forums.
He knows what to do to upset people and he´s doing it. Being "polite" but using smites is his strategy.
But it is your business. He destroys your business, not mine.
I will not post any roulette related topic anymore. I will only fight this Ken or MrJ and the thousands of avatars of caleb.
(and yet again)....you bring my name up AGAIN Winkel but expect me to shut up? I dont understand you man. Please leave me alone.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 10, 11:07 AM 2016
(and yet again)....you bring my name up AGAIN Winkel but expect me to shut up? I dont understand you man. Please leave me alone.
Ken
Who started to bring up the others name? And to smite the other?
I don´t expect you to shut up. I expect you to respect people who don´t follow your thinking.
Please leave me alone! I´m praying that you will start to do so!
I am an unbiased on looker
Ken does things
Then when retaliation happens he plays victim
So whats going on? Steve is busy. He does not read every thread. All he sees is tiny bits and pieces so he cannot have a proper opinion
Hey kens not a bad guy if u talk about something besides roulette
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 10, 12:07 PM 2016
I am an unbiased on looker
Ken does things
Then when retaliation happens he plays victim
So whats going on? Steve is busy. He does not read every thread. All he sees is tiny bits and pieces so he cannot have a proper opinion
Hey kens not a bad guy if u talk about something besides roulette
You guys talk in circles. You can put chocolate on s**t but its still s**t.
The last TWO posts, again bring up my name but I am a "victim" if I respond?
Makes no sense but you know that already RG. People are NOT fooled by this stuff.
Ken
Also, lets look at consistency please. You guys talk about "ruining threads" etc., well guess what? You are on MY thread....."ruining it".
Ken
Or just delete this crap....apparently we can't handle this. And wtf is jizz? :P
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 10, 12:56 PM 2016
Also, lets look at consistency please. You guys talk about "ruining threads" etc., well guess what? You are on MY thread....."ruining it".
Ken
How does it feel then to be treated and misrespected like you do it to others.
Quote from: winkel on Sep 10, 02:42 PM 2016
How does it feel then to be treated and misrespected like you do it to others.
You are in the minority in regards to.....thinking I start the s**t before the other guy but nice try though!! I have asked a few here (mainly Turner/Steve)...locate the thread. Find on the thread the FIRST person starting s**t and then please report your findings!!
Take this post....responding AGAIN to you !! Please stop attacking me. You're not as impressive as you might think you are. Your ideas are old, outdated and dont hold water.
Ken
(rofl)...Ok, I was bored. Look at this thread (my thread BTW)....Reply 1 was Steve.
Reply 2 was from Winkel >> "And if this Troll" (me)
You cant even practice what you preach Winkel.
I still dont see those SAME guys with their...."cool it please" remarks, thats strange? Thats because its not directed at me, thats why they dont post them....Hmmmm.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Sep 10, 02:47 PM 2016
You are in the minority in regards to.....thinking I start the s**t before the other guy but nice try though!! I have asked a few here (mainly Turner/Steve)...locate the thread. Find on the thread the FIRST person starting s**t and then please report your findings!!
Take this post....responding AGAIN to you !! Please stop attacking me. You're not as impressive as you might think you are. Your ideas are old, outdated and dont hold water.
Ken
It´s a typical fascist 's way to argue like this.
You throw sh**t to others and then you go and shout: Hey they smell!
QuotePlease stop attacking me. You're not as impressive as you might think you are. Your ideas are old, outdated and dont hold water.
You are describing exactly, what I try to say to you since years! Pls stop now and behave like you are pretending to do!
You attacked me and i never reacted. You gave comments (not polite) about my postings. NOW I´m reacting and you are saying I started. To proof you name this topic. IDI OT do you think anybody will believe you?
Lets move on. The post was answered #2 by steve
I dont want anyone moderated and its heading that way as tempers fray