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Title: Most profitable system yet
Post by: FreeRoulette on Sep 15, 08:30 PM 2016
Hey all,

I posted a new system to take advantage of the law of the third for repeats.

It requires a large bankroll, but the profits are amazing. (unless the calculations are wrong)

link:://:.loothog.com/Systems/tail/tailend.html

Please let me know if you find an error, I'm still testing it.

Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: falkor2k15 on Sep 15, 08:40 PM 2016
Nice sim! How much BR needed if tracking 9 - 24 unique numbers? Would it reach table limits?
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: FreeRoulette on Sep 15, 08:50 PM 2016
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Sep 15, 08:40 PM 2016
Nice sim! How much BR needed if tracking 9 - 24 unique numbers? Would it reach table limits?

I haven't seen it go that high yet. If I see iy get up there, I'll post the progression and bankroll needed.

When I get some more time, I will make a progression calculator for it.
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: weddings on Sep 15, 10:51 PM 2016
Quick test on 8 unique numbers. Hit 39k bankroll
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: FreeRoulette on Sep 16, 01:33 AM 2016
I entered my own numbers 1 through 36 and the zeros.

I think the  happy medium is 17, 18 or 19.

At 17 the bankroll is 1498
At 19 the bankroll is 6786



Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: Smoczoor on Sep 16, 03:54 AM 2016
Titanic
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: falkor2k15 on Sep 16, 05:40 AM 2016
Quote from: FreeRoulette on Sep 16, 01:33 AM 2016
I entered my own numbers 1 through 36 and the zeros.

I think the  happy medium is 17, 18 or 19.

At 17 the bankroll is 1498
At 19 the bankroll is 6786

To really test this without risk of Titanic sinking and the casinos knocking over your tower of chips:
Try porting over strategy to Quad, Line or Street Cycles.

Numbers
1,6,13,25,14,32,31,10, start betting, 6 - Repeat! (Cycle Length 8; Defined by 6)

Lines
1,4,3, start betting, 4 - Repeat! (Cycle Length 3; Defined by 4)

So you can choose to miss out CL1-CL4 then bet for CL2-CL5; one of those might gain edge in the long term?

CL6 (lines) outcome would mean that we cannot cover all potential repeaters and make a profit - comparable to reaching 36 unique numbers - but there still might be a way of guessing the most likely one that has to repeat based on the defining element of the previous cycle or some other constant or outer cycle wrapping. Of course Numbers never reaches 36 uniques in the same way that lines can reach 6 uniques or streets can reach 12 uniques, but then there's the risk of table limits instead. 
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: denzie on Sep 16, 05:55 AM 2016
Quote from: FreeRoulette on Sep 16, 01:33 AM 2016


I think the  happy medium is 17, 18 or 19.


Where did I hear that before  :xd:
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: falkor2k15 on Sep 16, 06:02 AM 2016
Further to what I mentioned above there's one more advantage to porting this over to Quads, Lines or Streets: if too many uniques occur you can increase the span to 2 repeats before the BR is exhausted. And if we were forced to play with Numbers we might track for multiple repeats first before attempting to hit Repeat X instead of Repeat 1; that way could avoid reaching table limits with Numbers too. I don't know exact strategy, but I think the way to properly test and find out would be through testing Line cycles first.
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: BellagioOwner on Sep 16, 07:19 AM 2016
Quote from: Smoczoor on Sep 16, 03:54 AM 2016Titanic

THAT pic I was searching but I was unlucky (or lucky actually) and had found only until 13 uniques.  Maybe by adding a stop loss at 500? Seems like we have 4000 units profit anyway so far.  Sacrifice 500 not to reach 300.000 bankroll that it needs in the end.  :)
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: BellagioOwner on Sep 16, 07:39 AM 2016
@FreeRoulette.  Can a stop loss setting be added?  I think with unique numbers from 1-8 to track and stopping progression if the next total bet would exceed 500 units would be pretty good.  If it exceeds 500 we leave the progression and start tracking again from next spin
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: FreeRoulette on Sep 16, 10:15 AM 2016
@BellagioOwner

I will add a range so you could bet between say 8 and 19 numbers.

I will aldo add the ability to play on either corners, lines, splits etc.

Hopefully it will be finished this weekend.
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: BellagioOwner on Sep 16, 05:20 PM 2016
Quote from: FreeRoulette on Sep 16, 10:15 AM 2016I will add a range so you could bet between say 8 and 19 numbers.

Yes please.  That would be REALLY  helpful.  I could set it then to stop  at 16 bets ( it's the equivalent of 1000 units stop loss I am using now)

So...  it's interesting so far.  I have been using tracking  8 uniques and stop loss at 1000units total bet. I am +1289 units after 15.000 spins ( Not all 15000 spins are with bets actually though.  The bets are about 18%  the times of the spins)

So more accurately  I am +1289 units after 2700 actual bets.  (15000*18%)
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: BellagioOwner on Sep 19, 07:29 AM 2016
do we have any progress on the improvements/changes? they really would have helped me and boost up my speed of testing. right now i'm at 40.000 spins but with the changes I would have at least 80.000 already :)
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: BellagioOwner on Sep 19, 08:31 AM 2016
Ladies and Gentlemen... I present you....

28 Uniques in a row!!  :twisted: :twisted:

how's that for a rare?
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: FreeRoulette on Sep 19, 12:28 PM 2016
28 uniques ouch.

I made a lot of progress on the new tool. It should be done in 2 or 3 days and allow tests on splits, streets, corner etc.
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: falkor2k15 on Sep 19, 12:31 PM 2016
Quote from: BellagioOwner on Sep 19, 08:31 AM 2016
Ladies and Gentlemen... I present you....

28 Uniques in a row!!  :twisted: :twisted:

how's that for a rare?
That's a record! I only saw 24 before.
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: FreeRoulette on Sep 26, 05:53 PM 2016
Hey All,

I have updated this system. Please let me know if you find any bugs.

link:://:.loothog.com/Systems/repeat/repeat.html


Thanks
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: iterativ on Sep 27, 05:00 PM 2016
Hi. Looks good. Though, could you please add the unit amount along with "Play" ? In case we use our numbers and do testing in fact side by side. There are the bet spots, but not the amounts, especially for the more complex scenarios.

Also, link:://:.loothog.com/Systems/DX3.php there is a bug there, some times it doesn't count the bet of a dozen.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Most profitable system yet
Post by: FreeRoulette on Sep 27, 10:35 PM 2016
Quote from: iterativ on Sep 27, 05:00 PM 2016
Hi. Looks good. Though, could you please add the unit amount along with "Play" ? In case we use our numbers and do testing in fact side by side. There are the bet spots, but not the amounts, especially for the more complex scenarios.

Also, link:://:.loothog.com/Systems/DX3.php there is a bug there, some times it doesn't count the bet of a dozen.

Thanks.

If you play your own numbers, the tool will now display what bet to play next and what to bet on.

link:://:.loothog.com/Systems/repeat/repeat.html

Thanks for bringing the DX3 bug to my attention. Rather than fix the bug, I'm going to rewrite it with the new language that I'm learning.
If I get the time, there will be a new DX3 by the end of the week.