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Title: Easy way to make profit
Post by: Omarcox on Sep 18, 10:59 PM 2016
Hello everybody, I'm new on the forum.
I would like to explain my last way of playing roulette.
It's a simple system and its giving me nice results, but before i loss all my BR i will ask your help to test this system.
I started with 200u BR and play the following sequence without stop, if loss i use a martingale (1,2,4,8,16,32….) if hit reset to 1u.

The sequence is: RBRRNN. if win or loss always continue without stop it.
My BR from 200u is now at 750u. I never been more than 64u bet, usually its hit less than 4 loss in a row.
Awaiting for your good opinions.  ;)

Omar.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Sep 19, 05:48 AM 2016
You need to explain your method in more detail. How do you bet for the NN?
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 07:36 AM 2016
You are playing martingale on colors

Very dangerous

I know the good feeling though. I went an entire month making over $100 a day using martingale. Hit and run

Until one day i lost all my profit. Luckily it was casino money and not my money.

Unless by grace of god the bet selection you are using will suffice

If you are playing this way use disposable money......

What is thr NN in your sequence?
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: falkor2k15 on Sep 19, 07:37 AM 2016
RG, you actually played Martingale for real?  :twisted: :lol: :sad2:
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 07:39 AM 2016
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Sep 19, 07:37 AM 2016
RG, you actually played Martingale for real?  :twisted: :lol: :sad2:

For an entire month on baccarat

When i was a newbie

Thought i was going to be rich. Till that one day. I cut my losses and walked away even.

I have a lot of silver (i collect silver bullion)

Cashed some in to go play and the little bit i cashed in went far lol

I have a bellagio one ounce silver round. Its sweet

I think all newbies start with marty. I dont judge
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: Omarcox on Sep 19, 09:39 AM 2016
Sorry for the type mistake.

The sequence is RBRRBB without stopping, even if Zero comes… Continue with that sequence and double your bet if loss until you win. Even if you win continue with your sequence.

Till now, i reach incredible results.
I know that martingale is very dangerous thats why I'm asking your help to test before they cut my legs.

Now my BR in 1127u (initially was 200u).
On my last session  max. exposure has been 31u.
I also tried it with a D'alembert and looks very powerful.
Obviously we need to test more.

Omar
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: Steve on Sep 19, 04:38 PM 2016
Omar don't you think people tried that? What do you think was the result?
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 04:41 PM 2016
Heed the warning

One day it will lose

However

I wish you the best. When it bust i hope you are still in the plus

Good luck

If you enjoy it then keep on

With disposable money please
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: Turner on Sep 19, 04:51 PM 2016
Quote from: Omarcox on Sep 19, 09:39 AM 2016Obviously we need to test more.
form an orderly queue  :o
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 04:59 PM 2016
Quote from: Turner on Sep 19, 04:51 PM 2016
form an orderly queue  :o

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Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: BellagioOwner on Sep 19, 05:27 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 07:39 AM 2016I have a bellagio one ounce silver round. Its sweet

DAMN! We were looking why we had a shortage on silver. Guess I  shouldn't have fired the staff... O well...
Now I know who's gonna face charges!


PS: On the main topic... please listen to all the members here telling you not to play simple marty. You can check it out on your own on testing sites like testmystrategy or at RX Roulette.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 05:32 PM 2016
Lol

The bellagio has the best buffet

Been a dozen times
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: mogul397 on Sep 19, 06:32 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 07:39 AM 2016
For an entire month on baccarat

When i was a newbie

Thought i was going to be rich. Till that one day. I cut my losses and walked away even.

I have a lot of silver (i collect silver bullion)

Cashed some in to go play and the little bit i cashed in went far lol

I have a bellagio one ounce silver round. Its sweet

I think all newbies start with marty. I dont judge

So your loss was greater than your entire win?

I have been dabbling looking at a 5 step party with the NLE
sequences. Depends on how far you chase it.

Also, one of the things that seems to be the worst is to play
a repetitive sequence.  Of course it's going to come out.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 06:40 PM 2016
it was a long time ago, mogul

I did not lose any money i do not believe...... i had a stop loss, but it went south

i have no problem admitting then when i was a newbie i played martingale

it was on baccarat....after 3 B or P in a row i bet the other side....

after a bad run i never looked back

you know, at my local casino the organic baccart machine often has B runs of over 12.....I see people cash in big

I am a believer in play as you wish...learn lessons your own way....as long as it is disposable money and will not hurt you, do what you will

if i lose, i will still be going out to dinner friday night
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 06:45 PM 2016
original poster:

how long have you been playing this way?
what is your unit size?
real wheel or airball?
online or brick and morter building?

if you begin at 1 unit bets, and started at 200u, and now have over 1000 units, then I would say you are an incredibly lucky man....luck


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Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: mogul397 on Sep 19, 09:17 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 06:40 PM 2016
it was a long time ago, mogul

I did not lose any money i do not believe...... i had a stop loss, but it went south

i have no problem admitting then when i was a newbie i played martingale

it was on baccarat....after 3 B or P in a row i bet the other side....

after a bad run i never looked back

you know, at my local casino the organic baccart machine often has B runs of over 12.....I see people cash in big

I am a believer in play as you wish...learn lessons your own way....as long as it is disposable money and will not hurt you, do what you will

if i lose, i will still be going out to dinner friday night

I understand.  But I see a few things.
Your paradigm of play was a "no loss" paradigm.  So the "going south" just
meant that it violated that one rule.

Also, it's funny. Not that it has to matter. But I was looking at
roulette with the "doubles" scenario and playing a 5 step marty
for a REPEAT. Opposite of the traditional.

I once watched, real wheel, real play, two women chase a marty.
Black was repeating and they were chasing red. I was all over it.
Routing for them, and watching reality unfold feeling great shock.
But the truth almost seems to be that the scenario always quoted
is the one where the run continues and someone bets against it.

Just pointing out some details.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: mogul397 on Sep 19, 09:21 PM 2016
So just to point out (if it is true). That you let
go of your hope based on one loss.

Not exactly a characteristic expectation.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: mogul397 on Sep 19, 09:34 PM 2016
Quote from: Omarcox on Sep 19, 09:39 AM 2016
Sorry for the type mistake.

The sequence is RBRRBB without stopping, even if Zero comes… Continue with that sequence and double your bet if loss until you win. Even if you win continue with your sequence.

Till now, i reach incredible results.
I know that martingale is very dangerous thats why I'm asking your help to test before they cut my legs.

Now my BR in 1127u (initially was 200u).
On my last session  max. exposure has been 31u.
I also tried it with a D'alembert and looks very powerful.
Obviously we need to test more.

Omar

Aside of anything else I said, 1127 units is crazy.

I play at a $5 table. A 5 step labby is only 32 units.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 09:35 PM 2016
Didn't really let go of hopes

I just ended up knowing better

A marty after a streak of 4 will lose....

Might win for awhile

And i guess if luck is on your side for a long time

Most baccarat players i see win by riding streaks
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 09:37 PM 2016
Quote from: mogul397 on Sep 19, 09:34 PM 2016
Aside of anything else I said, 1127 units is crazy.

I play at a $5 table. A 5 step labby is only 32 units.

I know you fancy zumma

See how long a 6, 7, or even 8 step marty wins betting RBRRBB. Reset to 1 unit on a win

I bet it finds a devestating loss within 4 pages
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: ozon on Sep 20, 01:27 AM 2016
Hi
I'm not Marty fan, but the sequence which plays RBRRBB is certainly better like chasing sleepers, more action, the probability same.
Stop lose 64 units, 32 units profit target .

Same system as most on this forum.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: ozon on Sep 20, 01:50 AM 2016

Haha, yesterday played this strategy for fun, using the minimum bets in WillHill, before the moment I logs in there and they ban  my  possibility of playing live casino.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: Steve on Sep 20, 02:27 AM 2016
Quote from: ozon on Sep 20, 01:50 AM 2016the moment I logs in there and they ban  my  possibility of playing live casino

That's because:

1. They know live roulette is vulnerable
2. You did something that just might be related to advantage play

William Hill do this to lots of accounts for live roulette. It never happens with RNG, because they dont lose with RNG except when the player gets lucky.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: ozon on Sep 20, 10:02 AM 2016
I have more and more problems with online casinos,
I have very good strategy for Rng, but I trust almost only betvoyager, after winning a few% of bankroll, they began to disconnect me .
Playtech casinos is riged to the max.I dont trust them.Dublin bet Disconnect me.
I do not know where I can play.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 20, 10:18 AM 2016
Be wary of celtic casino

I play with fun money and sometimes it freezes or disconnects

Better off live casino or airball in casino shop....
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: Tamino on Sep 20, 02:36 PM 2016
Even better chose a CLASS III casino if available .
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: mogul397 on Sep 20, 04:24 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 19, 09:37 PM 2016
I know you fancy zumma

See how long a 6, 7, or even 8 step marty wins betting RBRRBB. Reset to 1 unit on a win

I bet it finds a devestating loss within 4 pages

Probably true. It's also sadly true that while sifting through pages of actual data I will
grab zumma occasionally as a comparison.

I was going to make this added comment to my other comments.
If you were going to try to figure an unlikely event, you would string
results together, figuring that the longer the string, the less likely.

I honestly don't remember almost any strings of 5 wins in a row. But by
the same rules, strings of 5 losses seem to fall out of the sky.  There's something
backwards.

I have been thinking, in various directions, of making an up as you win method.
Not by conventional thinking. But by jumping on the wagon train that spits out
strings of 5 or whatever.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: RouletteGhost on Sep 20, 04:27 PM 2016
Hes hoping for 1 win by betting that sequence
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: mogul397 on Sep 21, 09:05 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 20, 04:27 PM 2016
Hes hoping for 1 win by betting that sequence

I know that. I thought what you were saying was that in a small number
of pages you would find marty losses easily with that pattern.

And I was saying that, while it always seems easy to find 5 or 6 losses
in a row, I NEVER seem to find even 4-5 wins.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: BellagioOwner on Sep 21, 10:14 AM 2016
Quote from: ozon on Sep 20, 10:02 AM 2016I have very good strategy for Rng

what system you play for RNG? Is it proftiable so far in your long run?
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: mogul397 on Sep 21, 04:59 PM 2016
Quote from: ozon on Sep 20, 01:27 AM 2016
Hi
I'm not Marty fan, but the sequence which plays RBRRBB is certainly better like chasing sleepers, more action, the probability same.
Stop lose 64 units, 32 units profit target .

Same system as most on this forum.

The problem or question that I have in using that is this.  Are you using it
on a rolling basis?  The reason I ask is because whenever I think of
trying something that way, you end up with a win somewhere in the series
and then start off again, giving opportunity to a series match.

In other words, if you play  RBRRBB.  You may play RBR. Win. And start with
RBRRBB again, and that is an opportunity for that sequence to happen. As opposed
to playing  RBRRBB    RBRRBB    RBRRBB    RBRRBB , and if you win somewhere
early you wait til it ends.

I can't figure out if that matters.  But other times it seems to.
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: mogul397 on Sep 21, 05:38 PM 2016
I just grabbed a paper from today when I went and gathered data. Here is
some of the data.


RRBRBBRR

Using the RBRRBB template here is what happens......

R  win
R  win
B  loss
R  loss
B  loss
B  loss
R  loss
R  loss

After 2 wins, I got an EXACT series of 6 for a loss...........

(And I didn't even need zumma)
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: mogul397 on Sep 22, 10:38 AM 2016
Quote from: mogul397 on Sep 21, 05:38 PM 2016
I just grabbed a paper from today when I went and gathered data. Here is
some of the data.


RRBRBBRR

Using the RBRRBB template here is what happens......

R  win
R  win
B  loss
R  loss
B  loss
B  loss
R  loss
R  loss

After 2 wins, I got an EXACT series of 6 for a loss...........

(And I didn't even need zumma)

So to reiterate what I was saying before about the pattern of 6 and
how it aligns,  If I had applied the pattern " RBRRBB " in the beginning,
and stopped applying it for the rest of the 6 spins and began again, I would
have won and continued. The point being that I "missed" the hitting
the patter, spin for spin, and began a new search.

Does it matter?  Will I align with it right after that? Or did I dodge a bullet?
Title: Re: Easy way to make profit
Post by: psimoes on Sep 22, 01:31 PM 2016
That sequence will inevitably hit whether betting on a rolling basis or restarting after a win. We´ll never know when, so neither strategy is better than the other. What we know is the probability of any 6 step EC sequence to complete is 1/64 (zeros not accounted).

How many chances are there in an EC? Two (Red or Black).

How many steps is the sequence? Six. So it will be 2*2*2*2*2*2=64.

Let´s say you use RBRRBB continuously:

R= 1/2 or One in two chances to win the first bet.
B = 1/(2*2) = 1/4 or One in four chances to win the first and second bets.
R = 1/(2*2*2) = 1/8 or One in 64 chances to win all bets.One in eight chances to win the first, second and third bets.
R = 1/(2*2*2*2) = 1/16
B = 1/(2*2*2*2*2) = 1/32
B = 1/(2*2*2*2*2*2) = 1/64 or One in 64 chances to win all bets.

Notice how the divisors are always doubling up. A clue to how and why the Martingale works (to a certain point).

As your chances of losing keep doubling up, a crazy but fun system would be thinking of any EC sequence and betting against it.