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Title: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 03, 03:18 AM 2016
Been tinkering with double streets for the past few days now.. I don't know if this method is a long term winner, so more testing needed for sure.

To start, we arrange DS in rows of three like-

2 5 1

......    and so and now we bet vertically against the last DS that came so the first bet will be against 2 then the next be against 5, next against 1 so in this way we have three separate bets going on. Further spins are as follows

2 5 1
3 5 6

Here we won first n third but lost the second, so bet as usual for the first n third but for the second move up in the progression..

2 5 1
3 5 6
1 3 4

3 came in the second column n we won there as well now.

Two step progression to use
1,1,1,1,1
6,6,6,6,6

Total units = 35
Session goal = +18

After two sessions wins, we start to play with casino's money entirely!

Trying it once in practice won't hurt, that's all I would say :)




Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: tuddilue on Oct 03, 05:14 AM 2016
Sounds like a good method. Will test it for sure!
- Tuddilue
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 03, 06:36 AM 2016
So if u lose on bet 2 then going down the matrix bet 6 units only on bet 2
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 03, 07:28 AM 2016
Great minds think alike

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17298.0
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: sturrock on Oct 03, 07:42 AM 2016
Sorry I'm lost on your progression. If you have a loss do you bet 1 again on each D/S or 6 on each????????????
Thanks
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 03, 09:42 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 03, 07:28 AM 2016
Great minds think alike

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17298.0

Hi RG, yours look different from mine but yeah still an interesting one in DS
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 03, 09:43 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 03, 06:36 AM 2016
So if u lose on bet 2 then going down the matrix bet 6 units only on bet 2

That's right, and bet one n three will follow the usual 1,1,1,1,1
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 05, 07:34 AM 2016
Curious to see how this progresses

Not a fan of steep progressions

But at the end of the day if it works it works
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: mogul397 on Oct 05, 10:09 AM 2016
This may be a little displaced. But here is a "free system" from Izak.

link:://:.roulette-systems.com/free_roulette_system.html

Similar but different. I think I played with this a while ago. But my
question when I saw it last night was, why not play the other two DS
instead of the 2 (4 streets) that came in? It would be playing a dozen
instead of laying so hard.

Don't remember how it came out. Theoretically once in a while you got hit
on the 1-3-9. That leaves all the losses as a 2-1 bet.
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 05, 10:12 AM 2016
Or betting against 1 2 3 DS

Lol

But i dont want to put willies thread off topic
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 05, 10:23 AM 2016
Quote from: sturrock on Oct 03, 07:42 AM 2016
Sorry I'm lost on your progression. If you have a loss do you bet 1 again on each D/S or 6 on each????????????
Thanks

If we lost on the bet 1,1,1,1,1 (1 on each of the 5 DS) then move on to 6 on each of the 5 DS.
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 05, 10:43 AM 2016
Quote from: Willie on Oct 05, 10:23 AM 2016
If we lost on the bet 1,1,1,1,1 (1 on each of the 5 DS) then move on to 6 on each of the 5 DS.

Only in that column right
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 05, 10:50 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 05, 10:43 AM 2016
Only in that column right

Yep right..
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: mogul397 on Oct 05, 02:05 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 05, 10:12 AM 2016
Or betting against 1 2 3 DS

Lol

But i dont want to put willies thread off topic

Very true, RG. Just some perspective.

I have to go to the store to buy some wallpaper paste. (Ran out.)
After that, the test.

Just got back from casino. Almost got my ass handed to me, but
I followed my rules.
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: 6th-sense on Oct 05, 03:03 PM 2016
Your progression is wrong ..it's similar to a sytem I use except I put the ds streets in order with the dozens..ie I put it in a 3 wide dozen matrix in corresponding order ...dozen 1 in one group dozen 2 in next dozen 3 in next and write down ds streets underneath...3 results wide...when the trio forms on the beginning of that bet if there are 3 different streets in line above just bet the oppisite streets for two spins..bet amount corresponds to the street you bet on...5th street is 5 units 1st street is 1 unit 4th street is 4 units etc...just flat bet..for two spins then next trigger will form matrix style again ...for you people who want to progress it..ll be 1st bet on 3 ds streets 1 unit on a loss it's 3 units on 3 ds streets...no higher and take the loss and just repeat on next trigger...no going up in stakes just play as is
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: tuddilue on Oct 05, 03:55 PM 2016
Quote from: Willie on Oct 05, 10:23 AM 2016
If we lost on the bet 1,1,1,1,1 (1 on each of the 5 DS) then move on to 6 on each of the 5 DS.
How do you handle the 0 in the matrix?
I played it only flat bet and it recovers really good. So that can be the starting point before testing the progression. Because it recovers after 5 wins.
- Tuddilue
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 05, 05:24 PM 2016
Definitely have a good feeling

The roulette wheel wont spit the same DS pattern out every 3 spins

Impossible

Win streaks could be huge
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 05, 05:38 PM 2016
Yes the win streaks would be very long, but still got to respect the session win goal since we just have a 2 step progression which would definitely bust in long run or even in a short session.
Though yes the recovery would be equally quick :)
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 05, 05:49 PM 2016
Quote from: 6th-sense on Oct 05, 03:03 PM 2016
Your progression is wrong ..it's similar to a sytem I use except I put the ds streets in order with the dozens..ie I put it in a 3 wide dozen matrix in corresponding order ...dozen 1 in one group dozen 2 in next dozen 3 in next and write down ds streets underneath...3 results wide...when the trio forms on the beginning of that bet if there are 3 different streets in line above just bet the oppisite streets for two spins..bet amount corresponds to the street you bet on...5th street is 5 units 1st street is 1 unit 4th street is 4 units etc...just flat bet..for two spins then next trigger will form matrix style again ...for you people who want to progress it..ll be 1st bet on 3 ds streets 1 unit on a loss it's 3 units on 3 ds streets...no higher and take the loss and just repeat on next trigger...no going up in stakes just play as is

Quite confusing post I must say, on one hand saying my progression is wrong and then posting your altogether different method!
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 05, 05:52 PM 2016
Quote from: tuddilue on Oct 05, 03:55 PM 2016
How do you handle the 0 in the matrix?
I played it only flat bet and it recovers really good. So that can be the starting point before testing the progression. Because it recovers after 5 wins.
- Tuddilue

Excellent point Tuddilue about the flat bet.. but as for zero we have to consider it a loss, so one can say it's better to play this on the euro version than American which has the dangerous duo
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 05, 05:59 PM 2016
Quote from: tuddilue on Oct 05, 03:55 PM 2016
How do you handle the 0 in the matrix?
I played it only flat bet and it recovers really good. So that can be the starting point before testing the progression. Because it recovers after 5 wins.
- Tuddilue

I ran through rng for 75 spins, no session goal, no stop loss..

With flat bet:
66 wins + 66
9 loss -45
Total = +21

With 2 step progression
75 wins = +75
No losses

But let's imagine if we had one loss then +44
If two losses then +13
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 05, 06:27 PM 2016
green= win
red= loss

lost flat betting

lots of 0s...a method like this id say insurance on 0...however we know at that point we would be called goofs...oh well

but i think it won with your progression idea, I did not do the math though

just wanted to post some real spin results

thanks

if you lose in that column only increase unit size in that column? good idea


(link:://i63.tinypic.com/10pq42o.png)
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 05, 06:35 PM 2016
0 is the only thing that made that hard ^
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 06, 01:03 AM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 05, 06:27 PM 2016
green= win
red= loss

lost flat betting

lots of 0s...a method like this id say insurance on 0...however we know at that point we would be called goofs...oh well

but i think it won with your progression idea, I did not do the math though

just wanted to post some real spin results

thanks

if you lose in that column only increase unit size in that column? good idea


(link:://i63.tinypic.com/10pq42o.png)

RG, you would have lost just once with the progression and I calculated from your spins..

Wins = +69
Loss = -31
Net = +38
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 06, 07:59 AM 2016
Quote from: Willie on Oct 06, 01:03 AM 2016
RG, you would have lost just once with the progression and I calculated from your spins..

Wins = +69
Loss = -31
Net = +38

Ok. I need to wrap my head around how your playing. Still slightly unsure

Thanks

Nice strategy
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 06, 09:43 AM 2016
Sorry Tuddilue, RG..
I mentioned in replies to your post that we would be -31 on a loss whereas it would be -35 when both steps fail in the progression.. my bad
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: tuddilue on Oct 06, 03:06 PM 2016
Quote from: Willie on Oct 06, 09:43 AM 2016
Sorry Tuddilue, RG..
I mentioned in replies to your post that we would be -31 on a loss whereas it would be -35 when both steps fail in the progression.. my bad
No problem. I was always thinking of 35. I have not even thought about that you wrote wrong...
- Tuddilue
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 06, 03:07 PM 2016
0 is a loss or you cover?
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 07, 12:02 AM 2016
Quote from: tuddilue on Oct 06, 03:06 PM 2016
No problem. I was always thinking of 35. I have not even thought about that you wrote wrong...
- Tuddilue
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 08, 05:19 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 06, 03:07 PM 2016
0 is a loss or you cover?

It's a loss only if it comes when you bet 6,6,6,6,6  ;)
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 08, 05:51 PM 2016
This requires further investigation

A great method indeed. However one 3 in a row loss is big

But it is solid
Title: Re: Double streeting twice!
Post by: Willie on Oct 10, 11:47 PM 2016
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 08, 05:51 PM 2016
This requires further investigation

A great method indeed. However one 3 in a row loss is big

But it is solid
[/quote

Yes I agree the loss is big.. but 2 successful sessions n it won't matter :)