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Title: chopy
Post by: tito on Oct 08, 03:22 PM 2016
what is the longest chopy trend u have seen like high- low high-low  high-low
or even-odd even-odd even-odd
or r-b-r-b-r-b
can we play against this trends and win ?
i noticed this trend is weak
Title: Re: chopy
Post by: BellagioOwner on Oct 08, 07:59 PM 2016
Quote from: tito on Oct 08, 03:22 PM 2016i noticed this trend is weak

What you mean weak? RBRBRB has the same chance as RRRRRR or BBBBBB or RRBBRR or RBBBRR or ANY combinations of same amount of spins.
Title: Re: chopy
Post by: mogul397 on Oct 08, 09:23 PM 2016
Quote from: tito on Oct 08, 03:22 PM 2016
what is the longest chopy trend u have seen like high- low high-low  high-low
or even-odd even-odd even-odd
or r-b-r-b-r-b
can we play against this trends and win ?
i noticed this trend is weak

Not sure what you're asking. I am just coming off an effort to watch for and play
chops.  The theory is that you will get runs like that. The trigger is to see a series
of more than one, and a change.

Well right there, you missed a statistical win. And you gain a loss as you play
until it's over.

It's not the problem is that you need a wrapper to identify these, and the losses
from the wrapper eat up the advantage.

If I play just for series I could hit rrbbrrbbrrbbrrbb. So I would see a red, bet red,
and win one and lose one. If I got rbrbrbrbrb and saw red and bet for a series I would
lose them all.  And to recover all the losses from that I would need some nice series.

rrrb is just 2 wins, minus a loss at the end. And so on.
Title: Re: chopy
Post by: tito on Oct 08, 10:48 PM 2016
Quote from: BellagioOwner on Oct 08, 07:59 PM 2016
What you mean weak? RBRBRB has the same chance as RRRRRR or BBBBBB or RRBBRR or RBBBRR or ANY combinations of same amount of spins.
i mean when rbrbrb comes we bet for get 2 black or 2 red
or even odd even odd even odd we play odd if it comes even we bet even how long we can see rbrbrbrbr
or odd even or high low high low what the biggest  trigger like that u have seen this is my question?
Title: Re: chopy
Post by: tito on Oct 08, 10:51 PM 2016
Quote from: mogul397 on Oct 08, 09:23 PM 2016
Not sure what you're asking. I am just coming off an effort to watch for and play
chops.  The theory is that you will get runs like that. The trigger is to see a series
of more than one, and a change.

Well right there, you missed a statistical win. And you gain a loss as you play
until it's over.

It's not the problem is that you need a wrapper to identify these, and the losses
from the wrapper eat up the advantage.

If I play just for series I could hit rrbbrrbbrrbbrrbb. So I would see a red, bet red,
and win one and lose one. If I got rbrbrbrbrb and saw red and bet for a series I would
lose them all.  And to recover all the losses from that I would need some nice series.

rrrb is just 2 wins, minus a loss at the end. And so on.
thank u mogul and sorry english is not my first language
i mean when rbrbrb comes we bet for get 2 black or 2 red
or even odd even odd even odd we play odd if it comes even we bet even how long we can see rbrbrbrbr and we use martingale for recover losses
or odd even or high low high low what the biggest  trigger like that u have seen this is my question? 
or how many odd even odd even odd even trend like that u have seen ?
Title: Re: chopy
Post by: ego on Oct 09, 10:30 AM 2016

Is not weak ... you have the same probability to get one single as one serie.
Alernating singles has the value of 1 and alternating series has the value of 1.

This means that if you get 14 singles with two series in any combination within the random flow you observe 3.0 SD.
You can also use the following values. Singles has the value of 1 and series of two has the value of 0 and series of Three has the value of 1.
Then 14 singles with any amount of series of two and two series of Three is 3.0 SD.

3.0 SD is pretty common and 6.0 SD will you probably not see during your Life time playing.

Is not weak, but you higher the bell curve clime you more rare event or window with random bits.
Title: Re: chopy
Post by: Tamino on Oct 09, 11:04 AM 2016
ego,


We both wold apply JP 2-1-2 method and come out smelling like a rose . No sweat !




ND
Title: Re: chopy
Post by: mogul397 on Oct 09, 09:53 PM 2016
Quote from: tito on Oct 08, 10:51 PM 2016
thank u mogul and sorry english is not my first language
i mean when rbrbrb comes we bet for get 2 black or 2 red
or even odd even odd even odd we play odd if it comes even we bet even how long we can see rbrbrbrbr and we use martingale for recover losses
or odd even or high low high low what the biggest  trigger like that u have seen this is my question? 
or how many odd even odd even odd even trend like that u have seen ?

Thanks Tito for pointing out the language weakness. It helps.

Let's rewind.  You say "when rbrbrbr" comes in. Are you using "rbrbrb" as
a trigger? Or what happens before the rbrbrbr happens.

Are you saying that you only bet or expect 2 red or black? I don't think  you are,
but that's how it sounds.

So let me go out on a limb and say, are you just flat out ALWAYS betting for
a repeat, no matter where or what?  Taking the benefit of the repeats and then
fix the rbrbr runs with martingale? That is what I hear you saying.

If so, I can see why it is attractive. But martingale increases WAY to fast for the
number of opportunities you would get.  MAYBE a fib would be more in line.

Does this speak to what you mean?
Title: Re: chopy
Post by: mogul397 on Oct 09, 09:54 PM 2016
Quote from: Tamino on Oct 09, 11:04 AM 2016
ego,


We both wold apply JP 2-1-2 method and come out smelling like a rose . No sweat !




ND

It always works out well when you apply the correct method to the correct sequence.
But hindsight is 20/20.