Looking for the post where you bet 3 units on low and 2 on the 3rd dozen.
Win 1 unit, or lose 5. Betting against the 4th DS showing. There is a progression with it.
Thanks
Here is the post.
link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=1935.0;topicseen.
Bet 3 on low and 2 on the 3rd dozen. The first step of the progression is to
increase to 9 and 6. That is 20 units total risk.
What I found is that this works pretty good. And in my limited tests I have
not found 2 losses that occur back to back. That means little to nothing, but
my other thought was about "not chasing losses immediately".
I feel like my tests playing just these two levels have yielded far more than 20
and I haven't seen a loss. And 20 units is not a lot to risk.
At a $1 level it boasts $60/hour. $1 per spin.
Hi Mogul,
All I can say about this way of playing is that you have been VERY VERY VERY lucky. Get out when it turns against you. I have seen the numbers that you are not covering come out 6/7/8 times in a row. 19/22/24/19/23/19/22/24 Where are you now?
Good luck with that then.
Brian
It's funny because I have done a lot of work with DS and never seen
anything like that.
I guess (bleep) at least I explain clearly what my method is so you can
trash it.
As opposed to you who explicitly post rows of numbers with the disclaimer,
"Don't ask any questions. I'm not explaining it".
My posts are clear enough that I no one needs them clarified.
Is this where I say (about the method no one understands) that you have
been very, very, very, very lucky?
If that's the feedback you want, then you got it.
As many door it says you throw at Bryan it doesn't seem to faze him
Alan,
This method of betting against the 4th DS works, though I have seen back -to-back losses occur.
Alternately, you can put 3 on High and 2 on the 1st dozen and then that would be a bet against the 3rd DS.
Thanks for restarting a discussion on this topic.
As many darts you throw at Brian it doesn't seem to phase him
And since the forum doesn't allow deleting posts after such a small period of time you get to read it twice (kinda)
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jan 31, 05:54 PM 2017
Alan,
This method of betting against the 4th DS works, though I have seen back -to-back losses occur.
Alternately, you can put 3 on High and 2 on the 1st dozen and then that would be a bet against the 3rd DS.
Thanks for restarting a discussion on this topic.
Alan,
I have not tried the above method (its 2 variants) for any great length of time, but when I did, I flat bet it. The results were mixed.
Have you tried any mild progressions on your part? Needless to say, the key word is "mild."
source: link:://:.uxsoftware.com/roulette/systems/docs/Worlds_best_and_safest_roulette_system.pdf
text:
World’s best and safest roulette system
This is an “original†system
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not a “new†version of an old system. It has
never been published before.
Using $1 chips, you can expect to profit $60 an hour.
Losing sessions are very rare. (About two per thousand spins).
The system
Two bets are made on every spin: Low (1
-
18) and the 3rd Dozen (25
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36).
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The 1
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18 bet on the outside of the roulette table covers the
numbers 1 to 18. This bet pays even money, meaning that a $1 bet
pays $1 if any of the numbers 1 to 18 come up on the next spin.
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The 3rd Dozen or 3rd 12 bet on the outside of the roulette table
covers the numbers 25 to 36. This bet pays two to one, meaning that
a $1 bet pays $2 if any of the numbers 25 to 36 come up on the next
spin.
An example of the bet is shown below:
The amount of chips placed on each bet is important. You must put 3 chips on
1
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18 and 2 chips on the 3rd dozen.
Doing so If 1 to 18 comes up, you win 3 chips on 1
-
18 and lose 2 chips on 25 to
36, for a profit of 1 chip.
If 25 to 36 comes up, you win 4 chips on that bet and lose 3 chips on 1
-
18 for a
profit of 1 chip.
Placing the Two Bets Together, 1
-
18 and the 3rd Dozen, you can cover 30
numbers on the roulette layout with just two chips. Only 8 numbers (7 on a
single zero wheel) can make you lose: 0,00,19,20,21,22,23 and 24.
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How Many Times in a Row Can the Two Bets Lose?
You will be very happy to know that the two bets together don’t lose very often
and not too many times in a row. That’s because on every spin you have 30
chances of winning versus only 8 chances of losing. The odds of winning are
tremendously in your favor!
After thousands of test spins using recorded casino spins, the most times in a
row the two bets lost were four times. Four times in a row is incredible!
In an average 1,000 spins, there should be 210 single losses, 40 two
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in
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a
-
row
losses; 9 three
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in
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a
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row losses; 2 four
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in
-
a
-
row losses and 0 five
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in
-
a
-
row or
more losses. These numbers are based on mathematical probability.
During our testing, the numbers varied from each group of 1,000 spins, but
not by much. We have never seen a five
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in
-
a
-
row loss in our testing. This
doesn’t mean five in a row or more are not possible. Anything is possible, but
the odds against seeing five in a row losses or more are astronomical!
On average, you will experience a two
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in
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a
-
row or more loss once every 40
spins. With such a low “losses in a row†rate, you can formulate simple
winning progressions to take advantage of these great odds.
A Winning Progression
If any one of the eight losing numbers come up, 0,00,19,20,21,22,23 or 24,
you lose both bets for a total loss of 5 chips. If you bet 5 chips on every spin,
you will lose money in the long run.
However, if you increase your two bets after a loss, you will win more money
in the long term than you lose in the short term.
Here is an example of a winning progression:
Our “basic bet†is 3/2 (3 chips on 1
-
18 and 2 chips on the 3rd Dozen).
Continue to bet 3/2 until you have a loss (when 0,00.19,20,21,22,23 or 24
comes up).
After your first losing bet, increase your bet to 9/6 (9 chips on 1
-
18 and 6 chips
on the 3rd Dozen).
If that bet wins, continue to bet 9/6 for the next bet, if that wins you have then
made a 1 unit profit. Once in profit go back to the basic bet of 3/2.
For example, the first spin is 21. You lose 5 chips.
Your next bet is 9 chips on 1
-
18 and 6 chips on the 3rd Dozen. The next spin is
4. You win 9 chips on 1
-
18 and lose 6 chips on the 3rd Dozen for a profit of 3
chips. When you subtract the 5 chips you lost on the first spin, you’re still
down 2 chips.
Your next bet is again 9 and 6 chips. The next spin is 7. You’re profit for this
spin is again 3 chips. Add that to your minus 2 chips and you’re ahead 1 chip.
You now go back to your basic bet of 3/2 chips.
Two losses in a row
If the bet of 9/6 loses, your next bet is 33/22 (33 chips on 1
-
18 and 22 chips on
the 3rd Dozen).
If this bet wins, continue to bet 33/22 for the next spin. If this bet also wins
you have now made a 1 unit profit and can go back to the basic bet of 3/2.
Three losses in a row
2
If the bet of 33/22 loses, your next bet is 74/36 (74 chips on 1
-
18 and 36 chips
on the 3rd Dozen).
If this bet wins, continue to bet 74/36 for the next spin. If this bet also wins
you have now made a 1 unit profit and can go back to the basic bet of 3/2.
If this bet loses, take the $185 loss and play again later.
In an average 1,000 spins you should win $630. ($1,000 minus 2 losses of
$185 each). As stated earlier, you should only experience 2 four
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in
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a
-
row
losses per thousand spins. The above progression is the one we use when we
play this system. You can experiment with your own progressions if you’d like.
Converting Four
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in
-
a
-
row Losses to Winners
We have found a secret that eliminates most four
-
in
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a
-
row losses! Anytime
one of the eight losing number shows up, switch to the opposite two bets for
the next bet: (on the next bet after a loss, place 9 chips on 19
-
36 and 6 chips on
the 1st Dozen). Then, switch back to your normal bets.
Consider this sequence of spins:
19
21
19
23
19
21 (betting on 19
-
36 and the 1st Dozen turns this into a win!)
19 (switching back to 1
-
18/3rd Dozen turns this into one loss)
23 (betting on 19
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36 and the 1st Dozen turns this into a win!)
This is truly the World’s Best and Safest Roulette System. Good luck. And
don’t forget to thoroughly test this system before you play it for real money!
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3 chips on low, 2 chips on 3rd dozen
when you lose this go to
9 chips on low, 6 chips on 3rd dozen
if win
bet 9 chips on low, 6 chips on 3rd dozen
if win again back to 3 chips on low and 2 chips on 3rd dozen
if lose
bet 33 chips on low, 22 chips on 3rd dozen
if win
bet 33 chips on low, 22 chips on 3rd dozen one more time
if win back to 3/2
if lose
bet 74 chips on low, 36 chips on 3rd dozen
if win, do it again
if lose
down 185 chips
OR
on a loss switch it up instead of keeping it low and 3rd to high and 1st on a loss:
We have found a secret that eliminates most four
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in
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a
-
row losses! Anytime
one of the eight losing number shows up, switch to the opposite two bets for
OR send me a check
Perhaps this can be tweaked to not be a steep progression
Doctor, thanks for the acknowledgement of the method.
Thanks RG for breaking it out.
I tried just tracking it. I got either a pretty good statistical result with
about one in five losses, or some runs.
As I was saying I think that playing it with one loss (3/2=5 units loss),
and then the 2nd level of 9/6 is workable.
2 losses gives you a 20 unit loss. For $1 bets. But if you win and recoup, you
keep on trucking. Once again I don't think I'd ever chase to another level. But
lately it seems like there have been a number of interesting combinations of thought.
Piecing things together in a new way.
All I've ever seen is the random version of the 1-5 payoffs. I was going to try it
quick today, but the snow stopped me. Maybe tomorrow. $20 isn't much to risk.
The thought that I mentioned in another thread was to ask why we need to recoup
losses immediately. You could play this with more than one bank. If you got hit
for 5 units, have a count for when you will try the 2nd level.
But honestly, I haven't even seen 2 losses in a row yet. So I've have a number of
individual losses followed by a recoup.
This is you will get multiple losses
You have to stay at current level for 2 wins to recover
This guys trick is to switch sides in case a DS streaks
Go into this with $20 and you won't stand a chance
Have I mentioned this phones autocorrect makes me seem challenged. Jesus.
Mogul how do you have such low limits
Mine are $10 and sometimes $20
I need to use $2 as a unit with this minimum. But then is it worth it
Something like this you need big units and bankroll
Unless you just want to buy..... lunch
For me, there is no difference than betting 5 lines,
some more if you play 5 lines, you can choose which "No Bet" line as you wish or accordingly to your bet selection.
Reminds me a bit of the James Bond strategy even though its more like betting 2 dozens. That you could also do in 2 variations & i played it with much smaller units. Also tried betting everything other than the 5 coldest numbers.
In both cases it felt very much like "threading waters" getting nowhere (especially the last one of cause), like you would play for 15 mins & then that one bad number hit twice or close in a row taking you back to square one. And the only thing why i pulled ahead was because i had a extra unit on Zero. A brilliant strategy if you are trying to play out a bonus requirement thought :P
That being said this is not a critique of your low+2 lines strategy. I think its all about finding the "sweet spot" between coverage & loss & could definately be different from wheel to wheel & perhaps down to dealer signature (if one believes in this). A single line or even 2 lines can definately go cold for quite a few spins that its better to play around them than into them.