No, I am not homeless. Today I have had too much time to kill and too much time to do it in, so I thought there must be some little nuggets hidden away in past topics. Well, I came across this: Tested over several casinos and 0000`s of spins. Taking the last 3 D/s`s to show there will be a repeat of at least 1 in the following 3 spins in excess of 80% of the times. I have looked back at 4 Dublinbet sessions posted on here and found that it happened 100% of the times. Spooky or what?
I was thinking with these stats. you could just play the 3 spins with a winning progression and stop if lost. There appears to be plenty of wins to make the loss good. 1 2 4 Stop. (or any other progression. Or flatbet)
Brian
do you think waiting until 3 unique DS appears in a row helps or just bet the last 3 regardless
Hi RG,
I think 3 uniques is best.
Brian
Quote from: bleep24 on Feb 04, 10:05 AM 2017
No, I am not homeless. Today I have had too much time to kill and too much time to do it in, so I thought there must be some little nuggets hidden away in past topics. Well, I came across this: Tested over several casinos and 0000`s of spins. Taking the last 3 D/s`s to show there will be a repeat of at least 1 in the following 3 spins in excess of 80% of the times. I have looked back at 4 Dublinbet sessions posted on here and found that it happened 100% of the times. Spooky or what?
I was thinking with these stats. you could just play the 3 spins with a winning progression and stop if lost. There appears to be plenty of wins to make the loss good. 1 2 4 Stop. (or any other progression. Or flatbet)
Brian
So does that mean you lose the 1 2 4 bet 20% of the time?
How is that novel?
Hi Mogul,
Yes it does. All I was doing was giving some facts and for people to adapt a progression that they are happy with based around these facts. For instance the Gr8 progression. There are lots of others.
Brian
Brian,
Just to be sure, I am asking this.
Let's say the last three DS to show are 1 2 6.
So, according to this method, one of the above three DS will show up -- with 80% probability -- in the next three spins.
And so you bet the DS 1 2 6 for the next three spins -- is that right?
I can confirm this, that 80% oft the time a DS repeat in the next 3 spins. For me is the Problem, if not? Then we are 21 Units down. What can I do with that minus?
It would be necassary to win 7 times to be were you started... :-[
What is Gr8?
It's a good statistic. The next question is the statistics on the
remaining 20%. Or is waiting and hoping for another triple set
of marty (with an 80% expectation) worth it. At a later point,
expecting to not hit a 2nd 20% lodd.
Quote from: hexfex82 on Feb 05, 05:34 AM 2017
I can confirm this, that 80% oft the time a DS repeat in the next 3 spins. For me is the Problem, if not? Then we are 21 Units down. What can I do with that minus?
It would be necassary to win 7 times to be were you started... :-[
I was thinking the same thing
1 2 4 will have you down 21 units
The problem is chips spread on 3 lines
I'm not knocking the method but MM will have to be discussed
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 05, 09:14 AM 2017
I was thinking the same thing
1 2 4 will have you down 21 units
The problem is chips spread on 3 lines
I'm not knocking the method but MM will have to be discussed
It's 7 units. Based on payoff.
Yes, 21 chips. 7 units.
1 unit per 3 position
1 2 4
Is 21 units
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 05, 09:17 AM 2017
1 unit per 3 position
1 2 4
Is 21 units
No. It's an "even money" bet. Win or lose "3 units" if you look at it that way.
3 chips is your "unit".
I say tomatoe you say tomatow
Quote from: mogul397 on Feb 05, 08:43 AM 2017
What is Gr8?
Mogul,
Gr8 refers to the gr8player's progression. The guy is a baccarat veteran and he came up with that progression and claimed to have success with it.
The progression is as follows:
1111111
2222222
3333333
4444444
5555555
You bet at each level 7 times.
At Level 1, you bet 1 unit each time. At level 2, you bet 2 units each time. In other words, at any level n, you bet n units each time. Got it?
So after betting 1 unit 7 times, if you see that you are in positive territory, then you continue betting at that level. If you are in negative territory, then you go to level 2 wherein you bet 2 units. At any time at that level, if you are in overall positive territory, you go back to level 1.
If after betting 2 units 7 times, you find that you are still in negative territory, then you move up to level 3.
So you continue this process until you are in positive territory. As soon as that happens, you go back to level 1.
According to the gr8player, it is usually not necessary to go beyond level 5 (i.e. the 5 unit level).
You can read the gr8player's posts in the baccarat section at
betselection.cc. Hope this helps you.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 05, 10:20 AM 2017
Mogul,
Gr8 refers to the gr8player's progression. The guy is a baccarat veteran and he came up with that progression and claimed to have success with it.
The progression is as follows:
1111111
2222222
3333333
4444444
5555555
You bet at each level 7 times.
At Level 1, you bet 1 unit each time. At level 2, you bet 2 units each time. In other words, at any level n, you bet n units each time. Got it?
So after betting 1 unit 7 times, if you see that you are in positive territory, then you continue betting at that level. If you are in negative territory, then you go to level 2 wherein you bet 2 units. At any time at that level, if you are in overall positive territory, you go back to level 1.
If after betting 2 units 7 times, you find that you are still in negative territory, then you move up to level 3.
So you continue this process until you are in positive territory. As soon as that happens, you go back to level 1.
According to the gr8player, it is usually not necessary to go beyond level 5 (i.e. the 5 unit level).
You can read the gr8player's posts in the baccarat section at
betselection.cc. Hope this helps you.
Flatino liked using this on double dozens
Gr8 chains can be any length you want them to be. I personally think 5 is the optimum length and that is what I use.
Other posts are correct about 80% win rate and loss of units on a 3 no show. That is why I said use whatever progression that you think suitable and left it to the player to decide.
This needs working on and that is why I posted it in The Notepad.
Brian
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 05, 10:34 AM 2017
Flatino liked using this on double dozens
Yes, I remember reading that. I also think 5 might be more optimal than 7, but I posit that more because of intuitive reasons than empirical ones.
Thanks Doctor.
I remember that, but didn't associate the name with the
progression.
Jim Ferr and I, 20 odd years ago, were playing with that
exact thing. OF course, flailing around wondering if we should
be betting 10x, or 5x or whatever.
Didn't feel outstanding, so we stopped.
Anyone feel differently?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 05, 10:34 AM 2017
Flatino liked using this on double dozens
That's actually not a bad idea or thought.
RG, beginning my bathroom rehab today. Were you at with getting your
new house up to snuff?
Quote from: mogul397 on Feb 06, 07:49 AM 2017
That's actually not a bad idea or thought.
RG, beginning my bathroom rehab today. Were you at with getting your
new house up to snuff?
Next thing is to gut the bathroom
New floors. New appliances. New furniture.
Painted siding because we don't want to spend 10,000 on vinyl right now
Floors ain't bad right
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 06, 10:14 AM 2017
Next thing is to gut the bathroom
New floors. New appliances. New furniture.
Painted siding because we don't want to spend 10,000 on vinyl right now
Floors ain't bad right
I hit that point with painting the house. I'm 60 and got beat up the last 2-3
years to accelerate it. So I paid the $10K 2 years ago. I'm DONE.
It's amazing. I have a two bedroom ranch. 10k for siding. Same price as every other house big or small
Scam
Hi RG,
So, sales people are the same in USA as UK. They assess you and quote what they think that they can get away with. Call their bluff and say you will think about it. I have had sales people call me later and quote a lower price. Then they call at my house and tell me that they are doing a property around the corner and if they can do the 2 at the same time then a lower price still. By that time I say that I was only thinking about paying xxxx and generally we will come to a deal. I am in sales myself and could tell you lots of tricks that they try to get you to say yes.
To me it is all fun and games.
Brian