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Title: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 14, 02:00 AM 2017
Give this a try ....

Bet each number that comes up. On a hit you add a unit. Once we got 3 hits on a # we delete it from our selection. U can use the 1-2-3 or more agresive 1-5-25 progression.

When to stop? Up to you. You can reset each time your in profit. Enjoy  :)

To many numbers?  Start after a number repeated.  :)
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Mar 14, 03:15 AM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Mar 14, 02:00 AM 2017


To many numbers?  Start after a number repeated.  :)


Denzie,
Yes, it might be better to start ONLY after a number has repeated. It will cut down on the number of numbers you are betting on -- otherwise, too much of your bank roll is exposed to you know what.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 14, 10:21 AM 2017
FYI .... we get 98,5% a fourth repeater in 74 spins. And we get 90% a fifth repeater in 74 spins.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Mar 14, 01:13 PM 2017
Denzie no doubt a mathematically sound strategy

Good work on that

Wish I had the time

Based on what I've been reading if a number hits 4 times in less ham 70 spins bet on it!
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 15, 07:11 AM 2017
I wonder what TG would have to say about this ?
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Mar 15, 07:53 AM 2017
Need time and patience
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 15, 08:22 AM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 15, 07:53 AM 2017
Need time and patience

Yeah. But his math is in here. So I'm curious.  If we get fast or average hits we make profit. If we get a session with low repeaters we ride it out till around break even.  ;)
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 15, 09:12 AM 2017
a break from the 20,000 spins.
What are the iron clad rules here.


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How much have these repeats cost


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reset 10 spins or jump


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another jump
As the wise member said way back in KTF take 1st profit.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 15, 09:14 AM 2017
wouldn't leave you Den #26


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Is there any iron clad rules, like when to drop a #
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Priyanka on Mar 15, 09:38 AM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Mar 15, 08:22 AM 2017If we get fast or average hits we make profit. If we get a session with low repeaters we ride it out till around break even. 
Nice work denzie... Played about 375 spins and 9 sessions, landed with a 600 unit in the plus... Will keep playing this, seems good fun.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Mar 15, 09:40 AM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Mar 15, 08:22 AM 2017
Yeah. But his math is in here. So I'm curious.  If we get fast or average hits we make profit. If we get a session with low repeaters we ride it out till around break even.  ;)

Even the math guys say this is better than most

So something is there

It's just one of those things that's likely to happen more than not
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 15, 11:15 AM 2017
Quote from: Priyanka on Mar 15, 09:38 AM 2017
Nice work denzie... Played about 375 spins and 9 sessions, landed with a 600 unit in the plus... Will keep playing this, seems good fun.

Your welcome. Happy to see someone is playing it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: 3Nine on Mar 15, 12:46 PM 2017
Thanks Denzie.  Will give this a shot tonight. 
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Priyanka on Mar 15, 01:46 PM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Mar 15, 11:15 AM 2017
Your welcome. Happy to see someone is playing it.  :thumbsup:
Another 375 spins and this time in the breakeven. I was chasing the losses in one of the sessions which dragged the bankroll down by 600 units. Then it pulled back to be breakeven before i ended the next set of 375 spins. I think it might be good to get off the chase after the numbers start to build up.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 16, 11:48 AM 2017
Quote from: Priyanka on Mar 15, 01:46 PM 2017
Another 375 spins and this time in the breakeven. I was chasing the losses in one of the sessions which dragged the bankroll down by 600 units. Then it pulled back to be breakeven before i ended the next set of 375 spins. I think it might be good to get off the chase after the numbers start to build up.

So it recovered right ?  With me it always recovers around break even. I'm still ahead by a lot .....sometimes you just have to grind it out if variance shows his ugly face  >:D
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Blood Angel on Mar 16, 12:38 PM 2017
I've tried a few sessions and done well. What's been your largest draw down Denzie?
Thanks for posting this btw.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: 3Nine on Mar 16, 01:34 PM 2017
I lost a little with this - got kicked off betfair about 30 spins in.  Perhaps I'll give it another go later.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 16, 03:13 PM 2017
Quote from: Blood Angel on Mar 16, 12:38 PM 2017
I've tried a few sessions and done well. What's been your largest draw down Denzie?
Thanks for posting this btw.

Around 2k once (with 1/5/25 progression ) but got it all back though.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 16, 03:14 PM 2017
Quote from: 3Nine on Mar 16, 01:34 PM 2017
I lost a little with this - got kicked off betfair about 30 spins in.  Perhaps I'll give it another go later.

Yeah you need more than 30 spins breathing space. Try unibet  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: 3Nine on Mar 16, 04:13 PM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Mar 16, 03:14 PM 2017
Yeah you need more than 30 spins breathing space. Try unibet  :thumbsup:

Somewhat limited here in the US.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Bettingking on Mar 16, 06:57 PM 2017
Yes a lot of potential with repeaters and triples appearing, I am working on a system based on this principle but not easy to find consistency (YET)!
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Taotie on Mar 16, 10:44 PM 2017
This was an interesting approach to repeaters with great potential.


link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9330.0
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Parisd on Mar 17, 04:47 AM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Mar 14, 02:00 AM 2017
Give this a try ....

Bet each number that comes up. On a hit you add a unit. Once we got 3 hits on a # we delete it from our selection. U can use the 1-2-3 or more agresive 1-5-25 progression.

When to stop? Up to you. You can reset each time your in profit. Enjoy  :)

To many numbers?  Start after a number repeated.  :)
Denzie, Reading your rules, I was with the impression we bet on the number that previously appeared so at spin 2 i bet only on one number
Then I saw the table from nottophammer I realise I was wrong and it is the opposite, at spin 2 I bet on all numbers that did not appear yet that means 35 numbers for 1 unit win if the first number at first spin does not repeat.
Nice simple system, I like it, may be should stop early when in profit as after 25-30 spins there will be many consecutive repeaters.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 17, 11:51 AM 2017
Quote from: Denis Paris on Mar 17, 04:47 AM 2017
Denzie, Reading your rules, I was with the impression we bet on the number that previously appeared so at spin 2 i bet only on one number
Then I saw the table from nottophammer I realise I was wrong and it is the opposite, at spin 2 I bet on all numbers that did not appear yet that means 35 numbers for 1 unit win if the first number at first spin does not repeat.
Nice simple system, I like it, may be should stop early when in profit as after 25-30 spins there will be many consecutive repeaters.

No no...you was correct. At spin 2 I'll bet 1# . At spin 3 I'll bet 2#....etc . (I do stop my selection at spin 37)
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Blood Angel on Mar 17, 12:51 PM 2017
When you say you stop your selection at spin 37 do you mean you start from 1 number again?
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 17, 06:29 PM 2017
Quote from: Blood Angel on Mar 17, 12:51 PM 2017
When you say you stop your selection at spin 37 do you mean you start from 1 number again?

No. It means I go further with my current selection.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Parisd on Mar 18, 03:19 AM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Mar 17, 11:51 AM 2017
No no...you was correct. At spin 2 I'll bet 1# . At spin 3 I'll bet 2#....etc . (I do stop my selection at spin 37)
I think the green table at reply #7 is showing the opposite and it seems to work too, but betting on much more numbers than in your method
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Blood Angel on Mar 18, 03:21 AM 2017
Thanks for you replies Denzie.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 18, 07:05 PM 2017
Quote from: Priyanka on Mar 15, 01:46 PM 2017
Another 375 spins and this time in the breakeven. I was chasing the losses in one of the sessions which dragged the bankroll down by 600 units. Then it pulled back to be breakeven before i ended the next set of 375 spins. I think it might be good to get off the chase after the numbers start to build up.
Can we see the spins, Pri
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Priyanka on Mar 19, 06:37 AM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 18, 07:05 PM 2017
Can we see the spins, Pri
Don't have the record notto. Was doing it in auto mode in bv.  Will put up the spins when I next play. 
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: AceOHearts on Mar 19, 02:37 PM 2017
How does the progression work with this, and is it necessary?
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 03:57 PM 2017
Den
have you collected the 1st 12 unique, that could be Turbos 1st 12(doz), now as these unique hit place a unit, on a win add a unit. Or bet the 1st unique adding upto the 12th unique, now only bet these and on a win add a unit.
Could be the 1st unique and as many more as you want?
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Parisd on Mar 21, 12:59 PM 2017
Quote from: Priyanka on Mar 19, 06:37 AM 2017
Don't have the record notto. Was doing it in auto mode in bv.  Will put up the spins when I next play.
Hello Priyanka,

What is auto mode in bv?

Tks
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Priyanka on Mar 21, 06:24 PM 2017
in betvoyager, you can place any bet you want and then click auto, which will place the same bet over and over again.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: BellagioOwner on Mar 21, 09:28 PM 2017
I sure agree repeaters are a good way to go.   :thumbsup:

I remember we had that conversation at chat denzie about this approach and similar ones on hot numbers. I had some questions though after you analyzed me this method. I see that many of them are also here and are answered here by you. That's good to know.

I had also some big drawdowns when I started testing it and had told you about it on chat. I had 2 sessions with -1000 each,  on 1-5-25 progression.  Still promising approach I guess even with some losses here and there.

What we need is a massive automated test on it. Feel free to reply me here or back on the chat. Now that I see some of my questions I also had are answered here on the forum I may give it another go as well.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 25, 05:19 AM 2017
What questions do you have?
Shoot
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Parisd on Mar 27, 01:23 PM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Mar 14, 10:21 AM 2017
FYI .... we get 98,5% a fourth repeater in 74 spins. And we get 90% a fifth repeater in 74 spins.   :thumbsup:
Denzi

Are you saying that in 74 spins one number will very prbably repeat 4 times (98.5% of the time)?

Interesting and this is on top of other numbers that will also repeat once or twice or 3 times
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Mar 27, 04:46 PM 2017
This thread has some relevant stuff (especially, for the first cycle of 37/38 spins) that some people might find interesting:

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18120.0
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: vladir on Mar 27, 07:10 PM 2017
I was trying in excel, simple approach of betting flat 1 unit on repeaters until one hits, no progressions, always resetting after a hit (even f BR is lower then before), always flat bet 1 unit....

10.000 spins everytime I refresh the random numbers.... result always positive after 10.000 spins,  I must be doing something wrong, but I cant see what ....it cant be that simple...I'm sure someone has tried this before no?

Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: vladir on Mar 28, 07:05 AM 2017
Found the error in my excel, just confirming you that of course it does not work flat bet :)
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 28, 10:05 AM 2017
Quote from: Parisd on Mar 27, 01:23 PM 2017
Denzi

Are you saying that in 74 spins one number will very prbably repeat 4 times (98.5% of the time)?

Interesting and this is on top of other numbers that will also repeat once or twice or 3 times

Was bit wrong here. It's 98,5% we get a third hit in 37 spins. And it's 99,9% we get a fourth hit in 74 spins.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Mar 28, 10:05 AM 2017
Quote from: vladir on Mar 28, 07:05 AM 2017
Found the error in my excel, just confirming you that of course it does not work flat bet :)

Of course.  ;D
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: serse92 on Mar 30, 09:53 AM 2017
Hey @denzie i have tested your system and i have some questions:

1) When it hit 0 i take it like a normal number?

2)Where it's the stoploss? I mean if i'm down of 100 units at spin 20, i can stop there or i have to continue the system?

Thank's for share your info and hope it works well :)
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Apr 02, 05:45 AM 2017
Quote from: serse92 on Mar 30, 09:53 AM 2017
Hey @denzie i have tested your system and i have some questions:

1) When it hit 0 i take it like a normal number?

2)Where it's the stoploss? I mean if i'm down of 100 units at spin 20, i can stop there or i have to continue the system?

Thank's for share your info and hope it works well :)

1) #O is just a number as any other. It catching the eye coz it's green but it's no different then let's say #19

2) if your down 100u at spin 20 you have to keep going. The game has just started...keep going.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 02, 10:53 AM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Mar 14, 02:00 AM 2017When to stop? Up to you. You can reset each time your in profit.
So thoughts on when to stop?
Reset at 1st profit or your own win target?

Den,if you've tested this for sometime what is the average profit, from all the wins. Or say you're at end of 2 cycles and +50 units, is this a good stop point
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Apr 03, 05:41 AM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 02, 10:53 AM 2017
So thoughts on when to stop?
Reset at 1st profit or your own win target?

When to stop..depends each session. Sometimes when there's a super hottie I keep going. If it's a grind I stop stop around break even. If it's average session I'll stop around 300/500units  I don't reset at St profit.

Den,if you've tested this for sometime what is the average profit, from all the wins.
The average is around 250/300 units

Or say you're at end of 2 cycles and +50 units, is this a good stop point

With my 1/5/25 progression I'm mostly above that. But sure why not .
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Apr 29, 01:07 PM 2017
Today's results

First session was a easy +700 units
Second session was a b*tch and ended +400

So far this still going strong. Had some losses to of course in the past but those are always so close to break even . Still far ahead! !!!! 

(Using 1/5/25)

As I said....Give it a try
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 29, 01:39 PM 2017
How many spins where the 2 sessions Den.
Can you attach those spins
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Apr 29, 02:09 PM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 29, 01:39 PM 2017
How many spins where the 2 sessions Den.
Can you attach those spins

I didn't count. Was playing rng on Unibet. My guess is...first session around 60 spins and second around 100 spins.


And my now just finished third session ended at +1100 within 60 spins
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 29, 02:14 PM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Apr 29, 02:09 PM 2017
I didn't count. Was playing rng on Unibet. My guess is...first session around 60 spins and second around 100 spins.


And my now just finished third session ended at +1100 within 60 spins
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: willtherock on Apr 29, 05:44 PM 2017
Hey, Den -

Sorry, I've tried rereading this thread over and over again, and still can't make sense of how to play it. There are two ways, right?

If the following came:

3
11
36
22

You would put one unit on all of them until they repeat and then put 5 on it and then when it hits again you put 25 on it?

Or is it

22
18
33
22

Bet on 22 with one unit and then progress as it hits again?
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Apr 30, 04:20 AM 2017
Both scenario are good. It depends if you play rng or not.

I choose rng coz it's easy. Click rebet and all your bets are there in 1 second. The same with airball.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 30, 04:46 AM 2017


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Will the rock, plenty of these sheets in Holygrail started by Azim in testing zone. Page3 reply 603

Only going to say 2 hits go 3 hit  more often after 20th spin
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on May 02, 07:07 AM 2017
Now GUT has plenty of trackers to show crossings, but do you understand how to get to these crossings.
Well this is the paper tracker i use. If you get a copy, you will be able to see how the repeat comes, Take note 2 hit go 3 hit mainly after spin 20, so there is part of the repeat puzzle.
Keep in mind what happens in spins 1-10, clue 75% of something happens and if that 75% happens in 1-10, chance is it's going to happen in 11-20, 21-30 and 31-40.
If you combine 1-10 and 11-20 spins, what are they likely going to do in 21-30?


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Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: spartanrules on May 17, 11:07 AM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Apr 29, 01:07 PM 2017
Today's results

First session was a easy +700 units
Second session was a b*tch and ended +400

So far this still going strong. Had some losses to of course in the past but those are always so close to break even . Still far ahead! !!!! 

(Using 1/5/25)

As I said....Give it a try

Denzie.
Was wondering are you still playing this method and how's it holding.
Been playing this for around 2 weeks now with very similar results.
Like you said some sessions are a grind and you have to jump off in my opinion when you're near even again.
I'm using rng on wh trying their 1p table to see how it pans out first.
Looked at unibet though their limits are a minimum off £1, and would prefer a much lower starting point meaning lower BR required.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Tekunda on May 17, 12:05 PM 2017
Denzi, I admit that I still don't understand how you apply the progression.
You say, you play each number which comes up until one of those numbers repeat. Then after a hit you increase the betting units by one. So when comes the progression 1-5-25 into play, since you already have increased the betting size by one after the hit? Aren't these two progressions you use at the same time?
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: bigmoney on May 17, 11:51 PM 2017
Just did a quick backteston this one there were 18spins between repeaters
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on May 18, 05:59 AM 2017
Quote from: Tekunda on May 17, 12:05 PM 2017
Denzi, I admit that I still don't understand how you apply the progression.
You say, you play each number which comes up until one of those numbers repeat. Then after a hit you increase the betting units by one. So when comes the progression 1-5-25 into play, since you already have increased the betting size by one after the hit? Aren't these two progressions you use at the same time?
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If he's using 1-5-25, spin 12 is first win, now would he not place 5 on the #1.
#23 hits now up that to 5 units.
#9 hits now up that to 5 units, #9 hits at 5 units. whether that gets you infront ?
Looks better to bet for a repeat in 10 spins, so spins 1-10 no hit, so the question is what do you do for next 10 spins, would you use 2 units, stop on a win, as 9/10 is common, so spins 11-20 could end 9/10, but we see it ends 7/10, so there lies my/your dilema, do you carry on betting upto 10th spin, or stop and start again with 2 units at spins 21-30 with 2 units still as you did get a win, but would still show a loss on starting units, but spin 23 would be a win with #34 and you should be back in profit and if like me take 1st win and stop as 9/10 is common, you see it would be the right decision.
Spins 31-40 betting 1 unit over 10 spins, ends 10/10, so a repeat of before, if played the same way you would win as next 10 spins shows 9/10,8/10

personslly i use over 10 spins 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3, if 10/10, double unit, if this ends 10/10 start with 3 and so on
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on May 18, 06:38 AM 2017
Sugtips here we where at 11:15
Good old 75%


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Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Vaddis on May 18, 10:04 AM 2017
Not working on MPR game, so why to bother with repeaters?
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on May 18, 10:09 AM 2017
Quote from: MumboJumbo on May 18, 10:04 AM 2017
Not working on MPR game, so why to bother with repeaters?
Need more, nots what working, chaos theory
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on May 18, 11:37 AM 2017


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4 blocks of 10, there’s the 75%,
Sugtips, I’m only interested in the 1st repeat in the 10 spins being played, marked in yellow, the blue just shows the extra repeat/repeats, and yes you were right about #13.
So I stop on 1st repeat in the 10 spins as most blocks show as 9/10 more than the others.

Now a bit about non-hit SUGS.
Ask yourself what’s due, answer all 37 #’s in the next 37 spins. Only problem I work in 40 spins as I’m not a math expert.
So countback is similar to LOTT in that it actually shows the expected spins where the non-hit  could hit.
Cut the story short the 10/10 means there’s 27non-hit  still to come, but my records show spins 11-40 get on average 15.7 non-hit, so add the 15+10=25 non-hit could show by spin 39/40. Law Of The Third says by 37th spin 24 could show, where countback shows also 24.

Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on May 18, 12:32 PM 2017
R here is 453


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remember theres 24 hrs between these games


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Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on May 18, 12:33 PM 2017
sorrry Den hijacked the thread should be in Repeaters !! What do we know :lol:
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on May 19, 01:17 PM 2017
RORY and anyone trying for a repeat
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14735.30

A good read, take a good look at
Reply 44


Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: sugtips on May 19, 02:28 PM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on May 19, 01:17 PM 2017
RORY and anyone trying for a repeat
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14735.30

A good read, take a good look at
Reply 44

Thanks for the info Sir.

In reality  I don't believe that only 8 times,  25-26 uniq app in 1M spins. We need another test report Sir. I will try to do it on Monday but appreciate if anyone else also  do it with their data. If it is even nearby then I can start visualizing ferrari car and villa in Monaco this year.

Thanks a lot for all your sharings.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on May 19, 02:44 PM 2017
Sugtips the thanks go to Luck of the Irish
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: sugtips on May 19, 02:53 PM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on May 19, 02:44 PM 2017
Sugtips the thanks go to Luck of the Irish

Yes Sir both of you and all the contributors and admins. Thanks so much.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: vladir on Jun 28, 03:45 AM 2017
Quote from: sugtips on May 19, 02:28 PM 2017
Thanks for the info Sir.

In reality  I don't believe that only 8 times,  25-26 uniq app in 1M spins. We need another test report Sir. I will try to do it on Monday but appreciate if anyone else also  do it with their data. If it is even nearby then I can start visualizing ferrari car and villa in Monaco this year.

Thanks a lot for all your sharings.

What you don't believe?

In my test's at the time (see message 41 on that thread), the most I got was 25 uniques (with a repeat coming, at most on spin 26) , and that happened only 3 times in 1.000.000 spins.

I could not find a way to capitalize on this knowledge. How do you plan to do it?
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: sugtips on Jun 28, 05:16 AM 2017
Quote from: vladir on Jun 28, 03:45 AM 2017
What you don't believe?

In my test's at the time (see message 41 on that thread), the most I got was 25 uniques (with a repeat coming, at most on spin 26) , and that happened only 3 times in 1.000.000 spins.

I could not find a way to capitalize on this knowledge. How do you plan to do it?

Thanks God,
Good Morning All.

Thank you Vladir, notto and denzie.

Very good info here and lot of thought provoking ideas.

Vladir Sir, 1 question, consider me a noob if this question seems silly. pls see the attached image, pulled from your post,
Q: the sum/count of all numbers should be equal to 1m or more, right? but it is not.

For your question which you have asked me, I am under brainstorming and trying to convert my thoughts into words and will be reply you soon. Thanks.

Love and Light.
SugTips.

P.S. I repeat my english is very bad. :)
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: vladir on Jun 29, 03:54 AM 2017
Quote from: sugtips on Jun 28, 05:16 AM 2017
Thanks God,
Good Morning All.

Thank you Vladir, notto and denzie.

Very good info here and lot of thought provoking ideas.

Vladir Sir, 1 question, consider me a noob if this question seems silly. pls see the attached image, pulled from your post,
Q: the sum/count of all numbers should be equal to 1m or more, right? but it is not.

For your question which you have asked me, I am under brainstorming and trying to convert my thoughts into words and will be reply you soon. Thanks.

Love and Light.
SugTips.

P.S. I repeat my english is very bad. :)

Probably my mistake, the image is from a smaller test of 100.000 spins. Results are roughly the same (in %) if you increase number of spins.

Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jun 29, 05:35 PM 2017
I am just curious, but has anyone of you been able to make this repeater method work consistently using flat bets?

Or is the use of some kind of a negative progression simply unavoidable?
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 07, 12:12 PM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Mar 14, 02:00 AM 2017
Give this a try ....

Bet each number that comes up. On a hit you add a unit. Once we got 3 hits on a # we delete it from our selection.Why drop? U can use the 1-2-3 or more agresive 1-5-25 progression.

When to stop? Up to you. You can reset each time your in profit. Enjoy  :)

To many numbers?  Start after a number repeated.  :)

Quote from: denzie on Mar 14, 10:21 AM 2017
FYI .... we get 98,5% a fourth repeater in 74 spins. And we get 90% a fifth repeater in 74 spins.   :thumbsup: Why drop if you get 4th and 5th isn't that 3rd going to possibly be your 4th and then 5th
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 08, 04:51 PM 2017
Theres been 6 spins before this,with 2 wins, +33 and +26. So i stopped on 1st profit to avoid going to deep into a hole, could be giving up a bigger win, but then might lose all the wins from these spins
So its bet spin 1 and we have 14 come before therepeat.
Now bet all R1's, heading into the hole.
Now bet all R2's, the win gets us in the right direction.
Now bet all R3's,
Now all R4's
Now R5's, theres another coming, but as we're out the hole,reset.


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Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 11, 04:59 AM 2017
EF-BET
watch the trot, LOL. When does WTF start ?, if you KTF, what are we doing,taking 1st profit +8 reset jump whatever you do.



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Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 19, 05:23 PM 2017
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So start at spin 1 using single units, win with 15, alas we're down.
Now bet only R1's for 2 units, profit, so your choice, stop or go to 3 units on R2's.
So 1,2,3 we are in profit, but why not bet R3's with 4 units, there we see hottie #5,more profit.
Does Den not say why stop if a # is hot, well the image does show #5 shows 4 more times, the ? is how many more become R4 to become R5  :smile:
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Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 24, 02:47 PM 2017
As this is the hottie topic,
heres the sheet shown in secret key. Why, well this machine gives 5 hot #'s and 5 cold and Mr Green over last 500 games.(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/08/24/temp_282802.jpg) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/Lyif)

So we see 6 circled thats zero, left is 5 hotties, look at 1st spin, did make me laugh, then spin 14, its hot. But should one really take notice of this.
Look in margin thats #'s left by last player, Out of those #'s only 19,27 and hottie #34 have not hit.
But Trot watchers forget all that, all you need is to watch the trot reveal its self,  read ROTT,
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Turner on Aug 24, 07:14 PM 2017
you / and \ and - and I your numbers like I do at the casino  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 25, 07:13 AM 2017
Denzie
The more i work on repeat idea the better it gets.
Who knows if its Turbo way, but the way i'm going its GOLD, :thumbsup: and only using 1,2,3

I've done 15 games from Mort today taking 1st profit +367
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 25, 07:40 AM 2017
I wont post the workings as members can't understand them.
Better that way as Turbo and Den will probably like it not to be shown
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 26, 05:48 AM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Mar 14, 02:00 AM 2017
Give this a try ....

Bet each number that comes up. On a hit you add a unit. Once we got 3 hits on a # we delete it from our selection. U can use the 1-2-3 or more agresive 1-5-25 progression.

When to stop? Up to you. You can reset each time your in profit. Enjoy  :)

To many numbers?  Start after a number repeated.  :)

See the red wordsyour in profit make that 1st profit, or you just might be in a big hole
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 26, 08:21 AM 2017
Badger, Wally Gator
This is why you learn about non-hit, the starting larger group, did exactly what they can do, to make those repeats expensive.
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But what are we learning on our Turbo/denzie studies.

Big money,
Ralphs idea, double #3, 63 spins be using 8 units, but its there.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 29, 06:56 PM 2017
777
FOBT still does the job, betfred, over 200 units, RG's 10 against 10 did ok,


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Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: Mantito on Sep 07, 07:04 PM 2017
First let me introduce me as a newbie in roulette systems. Thanks for the interesting post from all of you
I read this fórum for  some time and this time this repeaters system explained by Denzie and experimented by other users catched my attention because it can have some potencial from the tests that i have done.
I have read this post and still have some doubt about the way you are betting in repeaters and the progression you apply.
From what I read you start selecting repeaters in 2nd spin putting one unit on each number that appears till 37 Spin. If a  number repeets you bet 5 units and if it repeets again you bet 25 units in a progression 1-5-25.
After spin 37 if you still didn´t take a profit that you consider rozoable or your br is inferior to the starting point  you continue betting. After spin 37 you just maintain betting on numbers that have repeet and that are with 5 units or you still maintain the number selected with one unit that appear but did`nt repeet?
After you get a 25units selected number you reset it but if it appears again do you select this number another time with a unit?
Apologize but i still have this doubt.
Can anyone show an exemple?
Thanks
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 08, 05:14 AM 2017
Mantito
you won't get much help i'm afraid, but look at reply Aug 19, 09:23pm you'll see it's played like your brain dead, no thought, you're going to just follow the hot numbers. I used the steady 1,2,3,4,5
But this idea is open to you making decisions as play goes on, whether to drop some, but like in another topic Turbo brings back a dropped hot number, a bit of curve fitting the General would say.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 20, 06:11 AM 2017
 now in one's search for a good bet selection, i've now spent a lot of time recording and showing games with Turbs #'s that hit above avg,
But if you keep at something, like steven 1212, you eventually see better prospects, for a bet.
The ? is has Denzie seen what i've seen.
It's early days, but is showing a good return, possibly because it starts with a small selection of 1x's.
Now i reckon MPR is a software game and steve has it watch all peeps that log in, has is it spy ware or something like it, but as said been using MPR and today 3 visits and spin 3 has been a repeat, but will it be visit 4, oh yes and only me there, so will spin3 be a repeat?
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 20, 07:30 PM 2017
finally back from hospital run and yeah 4th visit for me spin 3 repeats, now there be 12 hrs between visit 3 and 4 but seems odd.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Sep 21, 02:58 AM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 20, 06:11 AM 2017
But if you keep at something, like steven 1212, you eventually see better prospects, for a bet.

What's that 1212?

The ? is has Denzie seen what i've seen.
It's early days, but is showing a good return, possibly because it starts with a small selection of 1x's.


What did you notice?   ;D
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: denzie on Sep 21, 03:13 AM 2017
Latest sessions I've been keeping my br very low. That can make me lose a lot of sessions and still come out winning. Just saying  :thumbsup:

Although the losing sessions don't happen much.  :girl_to:
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 23, 02:08 PM 2017
Den i see hotties is good how about you get a new MPR name and get to #1 spot. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: 777 on Sep 25, 04:08 AM 2017
Quote from: denzie on Sep 21, 03:13 AM 2017
Latest sessions I've been keeping my br very low. That can make me lose a lot of sessions and still come out winning. Just saying  :thumbsup:

word!

best tip you gave. take the loses they will come but you win much more. so no stress.
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: ozon on Sep 25, 05:41 AM 2017
Turbo graph
Title: Re: Repeaters !!
Post by: ozon on Sep 25, 05:47 AM 2017

It's just such a free reasoning, from the graph shows that up to about 240 spin.
Hottest numbers should have an edge, here a question to simulate these strategies. Play from the first spin of the ever hottest 4 numbers and finish the spin 240. We will have any advantage? Flat bet  in  longrun.