WOW! This is the sh*t!?? ;D I've never seen anything like this??! Now, i am happy, because i think found the perfect betsize + the best progression-- Randomness i can't beat, but the other i can?? Oscar's grind can survive great variance than negative progressions never could, AND it keep losses/drawdowns at the lowest possible.+ Recovery is GOOD.
BET: 1 QUAD; 1 Random bet (a Static bet), OR your own betselection...
PROGRESSION: OSCAR'S GRIND; +1u bet for each hit (if not reached a new high when hit) Until reached a new high then RESET to 1u.
Bank/Stoploss: 200u
Wingoal: 100u
That's Quadraloop my friends, now is this just "luck"?? We'll see how long this will hold....
(Played with random numbers in RX)
3/3 Games won
5/5 Games won >:D >:D 8)
How did you play? Just one static Quad or did you change the Quad with every bet?
Quote from: Tekunda on May 03, 03:58 PM 2017
How did you play? Just one static Quad or did you change the Quad with every bet?
Hi Tekunda! :) Yes, 1 static Quad from my first testings.
Test 6. Was a bit scared when the progression went far, i can see the weakness of this progression/system here. But if you play according to the strict rules of the progression and the stoploss,(without being disturbed emotionally) you should be OK, guess i have weak nerves?! :S
8/8 Games won O0
9/10 Games won
HOW TO PLAY QUADRALOOP LIVE
I tried different betselections with the same LIVE-spins, (that all failed) then i tried betting for a temporary "HOT QUAD" (and worked better!) by a "hot quad" i mean, a quad just hit (That could be a sleeping quad just awoken OR a hot quad) so,..furthermore i don't stay on the same bet for long, continusly shifting targets (after 6 spins)...
Procedure: TRIGGER, Wait for hit in column 1 or 3; Now you bet that particular quad hit for 6 spins then STOP and find a new trigger. (Also stop and find a new trigger if hit).
for an example;
Number 6 hit, now you bet QUAD 2/6
Number 22 hit, now you bet QUAD 19/23
Number 30 hit, now you bet QUAD 26/30
...and so on.
3/3 Live-Sessions won
Corner Matrix
link:://betselection.cc/cornerquad-5/kimo-li%27s-corner-matrix/msg37586/?PHPSESSID=l3rvg74l63tugd4ag7eu2m1t60#new
Quote from: Mortagon on May 04, 03:35 AM 2017Corner Matrix
Ok, so how could the "corner matrix" be played? We still look for a HOT quad.
5/6 Live-sessions won.
I'm think of a higher stoploss (250-300u). but that's up to you...
7/8 Games won (I now play with a stoploss of 300u).
8/10 Games won (And that's the final stats for this one). I won't be doing anymore live-tests. My intent is to play this on RNG, BECAUSE there's too many spins playing LIVE before reaching wingoal.... And i don't see any benefit playing live.
Hi Ignatius,
Since I mostly play in land based casinos, I would like to know how many you coups you need to play on the average in order to reach your winning goal or loosing limit?
The casino I play is the Duisburg casino and it is a rather slow one. In an hour a table roughly plays 25 coups, so a hundred coups could take anything between 4 to 5 hours.
Quote from: Tekunda on May 04, 07:11 AM 2017Hi Ignatius,
Since I mostly play in land based casinos, I would like to know how many you coups you need to play on the average in order to reach your winning goal or loosing limit?
The casino I play is the Duisburg casino and it is a rather slow one. In an hour a table roughly plays 25 coups, so a hundred coups could take anything between 4 to 5 hours.
First of all, im not a live-player (or real player) i just try to invent systems and test them, that's my passion. Furthermore, moneymanagement is not my best side. I tried different playlengths, different stoplosses/wingoals, (as you can see below) These calculations you should be able to do yourself, everything is in the charts?? so i don't really understand why you're asking....anyway. Playing 1 QUAD (4 numbers) Live would take a very long time to be profitable, (with this system) atleast 200 spins had the best preformace from my calculations, but then again who would play 10 sessions that each took 2-3 hours just to win +45u??? That's insane?,..anyway here are my calculations
Live Spins: (from the chart posted)
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100spins STOP or +50u/-50u WINGOAL/STOPLOSS
Game1: +30
Game2: +30
Game3: +10
Game4: -50
Game5: -50
Game6: 0
Game7: -30
Game8: -50
Game9: +50
Game10: +40
RESULT: -20u.
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200spins STOP or +50u/-50u WINGOAL/STOPLOSS
Game1: +10
Game2: +50
Game3: +5
Game4: -50
Game5: -50
Game6: +30
Game7: -50
Game8: -50
Game9: +50
Game10: +50
RESULT: -55u
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200spins STOP or +50u WINGOAL/-100u STOPLOSS
Game1: +10
Game2: +50
Game3: +5
Game4: -100
Game5: -100
Game6: +30
Game7: +40
Game8: +20
Game9: +40
Game10: +50
RESULT: +45u
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So, what do you say? FOR RNG ONLY.
RNG SPINS (from the charts): WINGOAL +40-50 / STOPLOSS -100
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Game1: +50
Game2: +40
Game3: +50
Game4: +50
Game5: +50
Game6: +50
Game7: +50
Game8: +50
Game9: -100
Game10: +50
RESULT: +340
I'll do another 10 session with RNG (Random numbers generated in RX) OK, Here is how i play- (Hot/cold quads do exist even in random spins) Therefore (To avoid Sleeping Quads) i stay only at one quad as long as it hits within a cycle of 9 spins. When hit i re-calculate 1-9. IF no hit within a cycle of 9 spins, STOP bet and *change Trigger*. (see below)
Procedure: TRIGGER, Wait for hit in column 1 or 3; Now you bet that particular quad hit for *9 spins* then STOP and pick a new trigger (if no hit within 9 spins).
for an example;
Number 6 hit, now you bet QUAD 2/6
Number 22 hit, now you bet QUAD 19/23
Number 30 hit, now you bet QUAD 26/30
...and so on.
RNG testgame 1-3
8/10 Games won from the 2nd RNG-session, and that's the final stats for this one.
RNG SPINS 2 (from the charts): WINGOAL +50 / STOPLOSS -100
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Game1: +50
Game2: +50
Game3: +50
Game4: +50
Game5: +50
Game6: -100
Game7: +50
Game8: +50
Game9: +50
Game10: -100
RESULT: +200
You ask why I ask? Well, since an hour equals around 25 coups in the casino where I play it matters, at least for me, if I need to spend about 8 hours in order to play the 200 spins you have mentioned.
I just wanted to learn if it is practical in to play this strategy in a real life situation.
Alas, for me 8 hours of playing time is not very practical for an everyday casino routine.
Quote from: Tekunda on May 04, 01:25 PM 2017I just wanted to learn if it is practical in to play this strategy in a real life situation.
Hi Tekunda,
I don't really know,... from my calculations it was a breakeven from 10 live-sessions? but it all depends on how you play it?... (What's your moneymanagement, what your stoploss/wingoal, what chip size, how long your playsessions are etc) look at the charts, decide yourself, and *test yourself*,.. IF you're crazy you could play very short sessions with big chips like Mr.J.... as i said im not a live player, i mean i don't have that kind of experience... i don't want to waste anybodys time or money, i try to find a system i can play myself... but anyone like to test this one, do it, and share your result, and your playstyle,..
Hi Ignatus,
I note that you are using rx RNG. Surely casino`s RNG will be different in that it knows what you are betting and will adapt to make you lose. We all know how difficult it is to beat RNG and that is the reason. If you play short sessions infrequently you will probably be ok but any more and you are stuffed.
Early in my online playing I encountered unbelievable outcomes (one I remember very well was 12 zeroes in about 20 spins. Of course I bet zero next spins but zero was no where to be seen)
So my point is: is your RNG the same as a casino`s RNG?
Brian
Quote from: bleep24 on May 04, 03:54 PM 2017Surely casino`s RNG will be different
Hi bleep!
Well, i won 100+100+100+100+100+100 =600SEK real money playing "six saviour" (one DS bet) with unbeliveable Martingale progression (double bets after 3 spins) that was crazy :D so, i don't think there is a problem with the RNG @Eurogrand (although i heard they were scammers?) The problem is not the RNG, the problem is payout issues, because they demanded new documents signed and scanned although i had already sent these documents before....
But im willing to test this one, PERHAPS?? with real money, now an average winrate of 8/10 may not be the best, but if its profitable playing for real we'll see?...(im playing with minimum stakes and only a 100SEK bankroll IF i played for real) so losing would not be the end of the world for me, if im lost afew sessions in a row and not profitable, then i quit. But i'll play for real perhaps in 2 week from now, so there is plenty of time for testing before that...
*update. A minimum of 200u bankroll is needed. I played now for fun at Eurogrand RNG, i've won 2 sessions so far (wingoal +50u) played with 1u bets. progression (oscar's grind) went up to 11u before hit, and that was -120u drawdown...so,
Bank/Stoploss: 200u
Wingoal: +50u