I was just trying this simple idea at Betphoenix, live play (fun money) and won 40 units.
1. Bet 1 unit on whatever Even Bet selection that seems favorable (streaks)
When not sure, bet on 2 Dozens, or 2 Columns (only once)
2. On a loss, bet 1 unit on an EBS, plus bet 1 unit on each of 2 Dozens (or 2 columns) for a total of 3 units.
3. Bring your bets to 2 units after two consecutive losses (but never more than 2 units). That's a total of 6 units.
Try not to bet on the Dozens/Columns where a sleeper just hit.
Good plan, Carsch, but BetPhoenix funplay and Real Money are two different things, beware. (I learned the hard way)
Really? but it's a live dealer. But please, tell me more about it, Proofreaders. I'll usually only play on land casinos, but now i'm curious. :(
Once you place real money bets on the carpet the dealer will drop the ball in (instead of the revolutions first---or spin the wheel hardly at all (the wheel will come to a stand still before the ball lands---I've seen the ball all of a sudden drop into a 0 or 00 pocket--without warning or suddenly into a pocket without a chip)---Avoid this wheel at all costs!!
But wouldn't there be more people placing bets? and not just you? Meaning they'd be doing it to the other players that were already placing real bets, no?
Shard EBS? even bet selection?
Quote from: weddings on Oct 19, 11:36 PM 2010
Shard EBS? even bet selection?
Yep! Even bet selection. I guess it should have been ECs. ;D
You would think, but I suspect it is a movie with an RNG playing in the background.
Ah ah! Interesting. Who knows? I'll keep using the land casinos. That would be a good idea if they had a clock with the date showing on it somehwere behind the dealer.
Thanks Proofreaders.
Dear Proofreader,
what you are saying is just not possible with live dealers who participates in any sort of chat or address players with their names. The "movie in background" stuff that you are talking about is possible only in automated roulette wheels (slingshot wheels) and live dealer roulette with no chat, like dublinbet. But I do not think any casino can go for such a thing. randomness of a real wheel is more unpredictible than any RNG and is sufficient in itself to earn money.
I agree Albalaha. BetPhoenix (the one referenced in prior post) has no chat and I suspect it is an RNG with a movie showing a dealer spinning the wheel. BetPhoenix is the only "would be" live wheel American residents have access to.
Conspiracy theories aside, do not play this with real money. This progression alone will lose you a lot of money.
Your first bet is a coin toss since you have no logic as to what you are betting.
Your second bet. If your e/c wins you are still down 2 units and if your col/div bet wins you are down 1 unit.
Your third bet. if your e/c bet wins you are down 6 units and if the col/div bet wins your are down 4 units.
If you lose all 3 bets you are down 10 units.
You need to calculate total amount of all bets including the current one then subtract the winnings.
Monte Carlo
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Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Oct 21, 08:31 AM 2010
I agree Albalaha. BetPhoenix (the one referenced in prior post) has no chat and I suspect it is an RNG with a movie showing a dealer spinning the wheel. BetPhoenix is the only "would be" live wheel American residents have access to.
I have a theory, Proofreader (if indeed, they're cheating people, which is quite possible as long as you can think of the possibility). It could be that the free play is live and not really a movie. And it could be also that, at the same time, they have another wheel with same background for live play where they do whatever they do to the game.
So, when you want to play fun money, you'll be sent to the live fun money wheel with a live dealer. When you want to play real money, you'll be switched to the live real money wheel and dealers.
Quote from: Monte Carlo on Oct 21, 12:37 PM 2010
Conspiracy theories aside, do not play this with real money. This progression alone will lose you a lot of money.
Your first bet is a coin toss since you have no logic as to what you are betting.
Sometimes, logic may not be that important. I see people winning by just tossing chips. :)
However, i did say to follow whatever streak (or trend, or pattern, if you wish), that may be taking place. Ex: if there is a streak of Reds, then bet Red.
Don't forget, if you lose, double your bets (2 units)
I do however have a better idea (not much different from Phoenix's posted system and George's idea).
Bet 1u on an EC (+1/-1)
Lose and Bet 2u. on each of 2 Dozens (+1/-5)
Lose and start over again, this time, double your bets on each play
Or
Bet 1u. on an EC (+1/-1)
Bet 2u. on an EC (+1/-3)
Bet 4u. on each of 2 Dozens (+1/-11)
Lose and keep repeating this same last session till you recover or you get ahead +1u.
Quote from: Carsch on Oct 21, 10:04 PM 2010
Sometimes, logic may not be that important. I see people winning by just tossing chips. :)
However, I did say to follow whatever streak (or trend, or pattern, if you wish), that may be taking place. Ex: if there is a streak of Reds, then bet Red.
Don't forget, if you lose, double your bets (2 units)
I do however have a better idea (not much different from Phoenix's posted system and George's idea).
Bet 1u on an EC (+1/-1)
Lose and Bet 2u. on each of 2 Dozens (+1/-5)
Lose and start over again, this time, double your bets on each play
Or
Bet 1u. on an EC (+1/-1)
Bet 2u. on an EC (+1/-3)
Bet 4u. on each of 2 Dozens (+1/-11)
Lose and keep repeating this same last session till you recover or you get ahead +1u.
i think it is a possibility for you to join the pseudo phoenix notepad testing thread and we can work it out together.
i do not mean that you abandon this thread, but since our ideas are converging, it would be very productive indeed
Cheers,
AL
I'm with you guys, Alberto. I need more time to get back witht the testing. :)
this method is like ONE from GLC with downward syndrome.
catalyst
Actually, I did come up with a similar system 4 years ago - just a bit different with the bets. Here it is as I had posted it on the GG board.
For every loss, move on to the next bet in the sequence below
Win (or break even) and go back to square one
1u on last Dozen
1u on last High/Low
2u on each of last two Dozens
2u on last High/Low ---- Win and Parly
4u on each of last two Dozens ---- Win and Parlay (6u on each Doz)
6u on last High/Low ---- Win and Parlay
10u on each of last two Dozens ---- Win and Parlay (15u on each Doz)
Lose all the levels above and you'll be down 42 units
If you hit a Zero, consider it as a loss and go to the next bet.
Ex:
3----- your first bet will be on the first Doz
13-----Lose-----next bet is on Low
24-----Lose-----Next bet is on First & Second Dozens
18-----Win------We break even. Start over again
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Oct 20, 12:09 AM 2010
You would think, but I suspect it is a movie with an RNG playing in the background.
1, ALL online and land casinos have a built in edge, and make absolute millions from it year in year out,so why the hell would they need to go to the trouble of cheating that way?
2, I'm pretty sure there are people in the world that have 2 computers in the same room with 2 different internet connections that could prove if it was a movie playing or a live feed.
3, Don't be so F'ing paranoid!
At least at a land-based casino I can see the ball go around the wheel and land. On the internet anything can be shown to you (even if it isn't real) and you have to accept the consequences (if you place online bets).