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Title: Dream On
Post by: ignatus on May 22, 12:03 AM 2017
Alright, this is a 50/50 bet, designed to play with minimum stakes.

Procedure:

* Start with betting the dozen before the current hit with 3 streets (At the 3 unhit street within the doz, last hit street is Not bet)
* Next bet the Current doz hit, with 1 doublestreet (at the unhit DS within the doz hit)
* Next bet the third sleepin doz with 2 doublestreets.

For each spin, bets are placed anew according to the procedure.


Progression: Negative Fibonacci. 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89... For each loss +1 step in progressionline, and stay at the same level when hit until breakeven or reached a new high. (Sometimes, after a hit, you can go back 1-2 steps). In general you'd be in profit after 2 hits.

Wingoal: +100u

BR/Stoploss: -200u

5/5 Games won
Title: Re: Dream On
Post by: ignatus on May 22, 01:46 AM 2017
9/10 Games won (I was lucky this time)  O0
Title: Re: Dream On
Post by: ignatus on May 22, 07:07 AM 2017
13/15 Games won 
Title: Re: Dream On
Post by: ignatus on May 22, 10:08 AM 2017
Alright 18/20 Games won. (so far so good)  :thumbsup: What i can say IS that; -No losing system will make it through 20 sessions. That's a fact.
Title: Re: Dream On
Post by: nottophammer on May 22, 11:31 AM 2017
Quote from: ignatus on May 22, 10:08 AM 2017What i can say IS that; -No losing system will make it through 20 sessions. That's a fact
Some can, but they will hit a loss at some point, the question is has your 18 winning games made enough profit
Title: Re: Dream On
Post by: ignatus on May 22, 11:50 AM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on May 22, 11:31 AM 2017
Some can, but they will hit a loss at some point, the question is has your 18 winning games made enough profit

Hi notto! :)

Well, im scared that luck will turn, as it use to, (as you all know), i get lucky first, THEN luck turns on me, that has happen Soo many times, (therefore i played 20 sessions), but i can't be 100% sure yet ofcourse, but perhaps if i do another 10 session I CAN be certain? but 20 games is a pretty good measure and As i said, "no losing system will make it through 20 sessions" (That is still true).

Would be nice if someone like to help me testing this one,...
Title: Re: Dream On
Post by: ignatus on May 22, 03:08 PM 2017
21/23 Games won
Title: Re: Dream On
Post by: ignatus on May 23, 01:45 AM 2017
23/26 Games won
Title: Re: Dream On
Post by: ignatus on May 23, 02:58 AM 2017
OK 25/30 Games won --> That's about a 83% winrate. I think that's the best stats you can get with a carpet-based strategy. i got two 9/10 and one 7/10, so that's correct. (And this is the final stats for this one).

Note. All games tested with Live-spins

Aprox. Calculation of wins/losses

Losses: 5*200= 1000

Wins: 25*100= 2500

Total= +1500u

1500/30= +50u/session
Title: Re: Dream On
Post by: ignatus on May 23, 06:09 AM 2017
I really think i deserve some feedback, for all the work i put down on this one .... :(
Title: Re: Dream On
Post by: boshkodj on May 23, 09:01 AM 2017
Few years ago, I thought I have a holy grail with the system similar to yours.

Can you please give me more details about certain situations, as it's not very clear... so I can test it properly...

1. "Start with betting the dozen before the current hit with 3 streets (At the 3 unhit street within the doz, last hit street is Not bet)" What if at the start dozens repeat? Let's say 33. Do you wait for another one, let's say 2, to hit and then bet on the 3rd dozen or?
2. "Next bet the Current doz hit, with 1 doublestreet (at the unhit DS within the doz hit)" If we come to this step, is the "Current doz" 2nd dozen, or a new one (let's say 1st dozen hit)?
3. Do we go in cycles, so if all 3 steps misses we again play the first step in the progress?
4. What do we do on a win, but no profit / breakeven? Do we start from the first step in the progress or keep playing?
Title: Re: Dream On
Post by: ignatus on May 23, 10:25 AM 2017
Hi Bosh!  :)

Few years ago, I thought I have a holy grail with the system similar to yours.
it's not a "holy grail" since it has a 80% winrate? But even with that one should make profits, losses has to be accepted. That's why we have a Stoploss.

Can you please give me more details about certain situations, as it's not very clear... so I can test it properly...

1. "Start with betting the dozen before the current hit with 3 streets (At the 3 unhit street within the doz, last hit street is Not bet)" What if at the start dozens repeat? Let's say 33. Do you wait for another one, let's say 2, to hit and then bet on the 3rd dozen or? It doesn't matter, you don't know the next spin. You always look at the spin-history and bet the dozen before the current,
in your example current doz is 3, then you look at spinhistory and bet the doz hit before doz 3. When doz 2 hits, then the doz before the current is 3...and so on

2. "Next bet the Current doz hit, with 1 doublestreet (at the unhit DS within the doz hit)" If we come to this step, is the "Current doz" 2nd dozen, or a new one (let's say 1st dozen hit)?
"current doz hit" is always last dozen hit, for an example doz 1 hit, number 3, (ds 1/6) (that is current) Now you bet (ds 7/12)

3. Do we go in cycles, so if all 3 steps misses we again play the first step in the progress?
I don't understand this question? progression is easy +1 step bet in the progression 1,2,3,5,8,13,21...(for each Loss), The way i use to play if progression goes to 5 or beyond i go 1-2 step back in the progressionline when hit,(when any of the streets hit) for the next bet,

4. What do we do on a win, but no profit / breakeven? Do we start from the first step in the progress or keep playing?
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Yes, reset progression to the first step if break even (for an example hit when 3u bet, that's a breakeven) then reset to 1u


Hope you'll understand! :) i'll do another 10 sessions with random-spins, to see if the result will be different.

I hope anyone like to test it also and share their result.
Title: Re: Dream On
Post by: ignatus on May 23, 11:55 AM 2017
2/5 Games won played with numbers downloaded from Random.org, so, therefore, i say do NOT play on RNG,

For Live-wheels only