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Title: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 07, 05:47 PM 2017
Hello everybody!

I'm new here in this forum and I've tried a lot of the roulette systems for years.
I found a post that shows a star system version e Id like to know if it really works. It's a post from ugly bob 3 years ago. Ugly bob posted this system:

The Star progression looks good. However in reality it's not a very deep progression and you will find yourself in recovery a lot.

Another poster uploaded Mr Majik's 12 STEP MM yesterday and that's not deep enough either.

Here is the 'Rambler MM'

1,1,2,2,3,4,5,7,9,12,16,22,29,39,52,69,92,123.

That's 18 steps.

You are parlaying these steps and looking for a double win before you revert back to the 1st step.

1=4 +3
1=4 +2
2=8 +4
2=8 +2
3=12 +3
4=16 +3
5=20 +2
7=28 +3
9=36 +2
12=48 +2
16=64 +2
22=88 +4
29=116 +3
39=156 +4
52=208 +4
69=276 +3
92=368 +3
123=492 +4

BANKROLL = 488.

Even 18 steps is not enough to be safe looking for a double win. You need DOUBLE that.

Take the 4 different e.c's.

RR RB BB BR,  OO OE EE EO,  LL LH HH HL.

The longest I have seen one of these pairs go missing over the last few years is 32. So that's 64 spins because each of these groups comprises of two spins.

So even using the Rambler, you would need to wait for 14 (28 spins) times to see one of these groups not appear and then attack it knowing that you can only lose your 488 unit bankroll if the group eventually goes missing for a grand total of 32 times (64 spins)

Tracking all three e.c.s will only give you a few bets every 100 spins on average (yes, I have tested it)

That will be hard to break but the day will come for sure. But it just shows you what you are up against. Plans like the original Star are not deep enough to keep you out of trouble for very long.
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 07, 08:43 PM 2017
Can somebody help me?
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: stringbeanpc on Aug 07, 10:34 PM 2017
Please post a link to the original system by ugly bob
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 08, 02:15 AM 2017
That's the original system by ugly Bob...
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: foreverBOB on Aug 08, 07:26 AM 2017
Hi Andre,

The Star System is an old classic and has been tweaked over the years in several variations.
As any system, it can work for a while, but eventualy it will lose long term. So if you're planning to lose, you can play it.

Bob
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 08, 03:12 PM 2017
Hi foreverBob!

You are right! The system always lose long term, but until this day come I win 3, 4, 5 times my initial bankroll.
If I lose I made a lot of the money first.
I have tested several variations of the star and some are really good.

In your opinion what's the best system or system combination?

Hugs
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: ego on Aug 08, 03:15 PM 2017


Thanks goes to GLC ...

Star System Variant

    Here is a little progression that was first introduced by Carsch on GG.

    It is a variant of the original Star System (one of the better public MM systems available on the web), but is better. It requires only about 55% of the original star systems BR and only busts after 30 straight losses...

    Any two wins clear the progression. It allows you to catch streaks, as well as allows you to not go broke with WLWLWL.

    The progression

    Base level:
    1
    1
    2
    2
    4
    4
    8
    8
    16
    16 

See how to play below. 

    1 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    1 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    2 win & repeat the same bet (In here, in order to move on to the next step, you must lose this bet the first time, or win it and then lose it twice in a row)
    2 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    4 win & repeat the same bet (In here, in order to move on to the next step, you must lose this bet the first time, or win it and then lose it twice in a row)
    4 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    8 win & repeat the same bet (In here, in order to move on to the next step, you must lose this bet the first time, or win it and then lose it twice in a row)
    8 win & parlay (lose and move on to the next bet)
    16 win & repeat the same bet (In here, in order to move on to the next step, you must lose this bet the first time, or win it and then lose it twice in a row)
    16 win & parlay (lose and move on to Recovery 1)

   


Recovery 1 (this is played just like above)

    2
    2
    4
    4
    8
    8
    16
    16
    32
    32

    Recovery 2  (This too is played just like above)

    6
    6
    12
    12
    24
    24
    48
    48
    96
    96

As you can see, it requires 558 units to play base level, recovery 1 and recovery 2.

Base level = 62 units
Recovery 1 = 124 units
Recovery 2 = 372 units
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 08, 03:44 PM 2017
Hi ego!

That's only 12 steps

In my opinion it's not a very deep progression and you will find yourself in recovery a lot.

I think the star system variant with 18 steps and no recovery levels works better. Tracking all three e.c.s, wait for some spins and then attack.

What do you think about it?
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 08, 03:58 PM 2017
I mean,

That's a 10 steps and two recovery levels.
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 08, 04:18 PM 2017
Here is my variant star system:

If you lose any RR RB BB BR,  OO OE EE EO,  LL LH HH HL. : Next step in progression.

If you win any RR RB BB BR,  OO OE EE EO,  LL LH HH HL: Parlay betting two dozens.

      1
      1         
      2       
      3 
      4 
      6 
      9
      14
      21
      31
      47
      70
       Bankroll: 209
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: denzie on Aug 08, 04:25 PM 2017
This might help too : don't play it coz it a loser. Been there , done that.   :'(
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 08, 05:04 PM 2017
Hello denzie!

You mean that there is not a reasonable system that can win consistently?

In your opinion, what is the best system or strategy with the lowest risk?

Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 08, 05:38 PM 2017
Sorry guys, I made a mistake!

The correct way is:

If you lose any R or B,  O or E  L or H: : Next step in progression.

If you win any R or B,  O or E  L or H: Parlay betting two dozens.

      1
      1         
      2       
      3 
      4 
      6 
      9
      14
      21
      31
      47
      70
       Bankroll: 209
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 08, 07:53 PM 2017
Hi

Right now I've earned 95 units around one hour playing my variant star system.

I bet $5 per unit.

Not bad, right?

The longest was 6 in the progression...


Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 08, 09:59 PM 2017
Looks like nobody cares about my system...lol
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: ego on Aug 09, 03:47 AM 2017

How little you know - one big progression and all in will never work and will fail ...
Reckon you don't have a solid selection method where you can win within three attempts.

I will try to save you and say that you should aim for less then 50% win target and then use regression, so when you lose you operate with casino money and have to encounter two losing session after each other to bust, that is pretty rare and will keep you longer in the game.

But with your gambling mentality there is no hope, because i know you don't listen to what i say.
So this reply is just waste of forum space and time and energy from my part.

Cheers
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 09, 06:50 PM 2017
Hello ego!

I'm just trying to make any cash.
I listen to what u say for sure and I would like some help here to find the best way, the best system or strategy to not lose.
Could you explain more  what you said about your strategy?
Can you show an example, please?
Because I didn't understand what you show me how to play.
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Does this version of the Star System works?
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 10, 01:52 PM 2017
Why wouldn't a series have an increasingly lower probability of extending than a single event has of happening once?

Obviously, each unique spin has a probability of 50% (academically, by excluding the greens) for either color.

However, the overall proportion of total reds vs blacks should be 50%. So every time another of the same color is added to the group, the probability of the group/sample containing ONLY that one color decreases. Is there really a 50% probability that a sample size of 100 (e.g.) will contain 100 reds or blacks? When a person gambles on the roulette spin, he may be betting FOR a single spin, or AGAINST a series.

Isn't saying that the wheel has no memory like saying the wheel hasn't had a haircut in (x) weeks? A gambler isn't betting on the wheel, he's betting on the statistics. Past data would appear to be relevant due to the sampling.

The trick is to be in the right place at the right time: at what point will the group or sampling attempt to correct itself to ensure an equal distribution of reds and blacks? Because obviously it is inevitable