Very sorry to say I witnessed an undeniable repeated spin sequence today, not more than an hour or two apart. I'm pretty sure I've seen it before too as it had significantly identifiable characteristics.
If there is one set going around and around, then how many more?
I have put in a sustained effort with 2 registered accounts, skakus, and olendryagina, both high up the leaderboard.
Therefore it is very disappointing to see spin sequences repeat. What it means is the game is to unreliable to continue.
My olendryagina account is just for smashing it with EC's.
My skakus account was troubling me because It has gone up and down like a yoyo for 10,000 spins, but really should just go up overall (believe it or not).
In virtue of my method, I see now that unidentified repeated bad spin sets would have the effect of wiping much of the bankroll again and again. Whereas unidentified repeated good spin sets would not increase profits much at all.
Sadly I must leave the MPR from this point, pity.
Perhaps you can check on it and fix it Steve? But I'm out.
Not wasting any more time on it. Sorry, and good luck to everyone.
Perhaps players could start a MPR screen capture thread where they upload images of unusual results to see if they are ever repeated?
or show when you have to reset bankroll, or have you deep pockets
QuoteVery sorry to say I witnessed an undeniable repeated spin sequence today, not more than an hour or two apart. I'm pretty sure I've seen it before too as it had significantly identifiable characteristics.
If there is one set going around and around, then how many more?
I have put in a sustained effort with 2 registered accounts, skakus, and olendryagina, both high up the leaderboard.
Therefore it is very disappointing to see spin sequences repeat. What it means is the game is to unreliable to continue.
My olendryagina account is just for smashing it with EC's.
My skakus account was troubling me because It has gone up and down like a yoyo for 10,000 spins, but really should just go up overall (believe it or not).
In virtue of my method, I see now that unidentified repeated bad spin sets would have the effect of wiping much of the bankroll again and again. Whereas unidentified repeated good spin sets would not increase profits much at all.
Sadly I must leave the MPR from this point, pity.
Perhaps you can check on it and fix it Steve? But I'm out.
Not wasting any more time on it. Sorry, and good luck to everyone.
skakus i told you is shittt this MPR thats why i like it...but to take spin data from it ..no no ....only god knows what Steves players uploaded as spins...<or maybe even god does not know>... :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
But M if you can win on it then its good, like winkel said in GUT he has a spell every now and then where he just bets, and thats when you/i get caught, i just crash on and before no it units gone, so new name as just resetting BR is a waste of time.
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 06, 04:45 AM 2017
But M if you can win on it then its good,
No it's not good.
If you can't rely on ALL the spins being unique each time you play, then you can't rely on any of your system's results either.
Taotie, there's no need to make a big deal of it. If there are issues, we fix them. I manually uploaded a new spin file today then restarted the server. You were probably online at that time. Anyway give exact details of what you found here and I'll have a look.
Maestro, you really can be a rude and unappreciative dickhead. The game is free for players. I paid for it instead of constantly telling people the game is shit or rigged (probably because of your results), just don't play there.
QuoteMy skakus account was troubling me because It has gone up and down like a yoyo for 10,000 spins, but really should just go up overall (believe it or not).
In virtue of my method, I see now that unidentified repeated bad spin sets would have the effect of wiping much of the bankroll again and again. Whereas unidentified repeated good spin sets would not increase profits much at all.
Exactly what was the sequence? I will check the spin file uploaded. There are two main possibilities....
1. The spin file had repeated spins from a player
2. You were playing right at the moment i uploaded the file and restarted the server. When i do it manually its once every 2 or so months.
Mr T or is it Green, i only watch the trot so it does not matter, as BL said its free
also don't blame the game for your results, unless you have the hg.
I think you're overreacting. Once i know more from you ill have a look.
As always if anyone notices a problem, report it and give full details so issues can be fixed. It is not such a big deal.
check out the ready button, sometimes i dont push it and the time has gone,next spin, very frustrating
QuoteMaestro, you really can be a rude and unappreciative dickhead. The game is free for players. I paid for it instead of constantly telling people the game is shit or rigged (probably because of your results), just don't play there.
i know Steve i was born rude and dickhead and failed to change...but yeah my results are just fine..never mind me..sorry :thumbsup:
Yes that's server sync. It depends on your connection and where you live. Real casinos have the same problem but they have multiple server routes. We have just 1.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 06, 05:17 AM 2017As always if anyone notices a problem, report it and give full details so issues can be fixed. It is not such a big deal.
No it's not a big deal, I just won't be playing anymore because I can't trust the spins anymore. That's all.
I started the thread to do just that - report the problem so you can fix it.
Unfortunately I did not screen capture the event, but I can say number 7 hit 3 times in a row and 4 times in 5 or 6 spins. The numbers before and after also repeated, but the 7's should help you find it.
I've seen other glitches too and thought it was my imagination at the time. Not so sure now.
Steve, I commend you for giving people the MPR, but I'm not sure the generation of numbers is ideal.
Maybe you should think about periodically uploading numbers from RDO for this "game"?
No one can use AP methods effectively here anyway, and let's all face it, RNG/Real Wheel results are equally suitable for a game such as this.
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 06, 05:27 AM 2017
check out the ready button, sometimes i dont push it and the time has gone,next spin, very frustrating
Het notto,
I've tested that and I think the problem is compounded if, when approaching the end of the countdown you click ready, click it off, then click ready again. That often results in a rapid following spin. If there are several players online it probably affects them all.
Quote from: Steve on Sep 06, 05:17 AM 2017
also don't blame the game for your results, unless you have the hg.
hg? I don't even know what that means, but like I said, my method just goes up and up and up. Not up and down like a yoyo. :girl_to:
I checked the spin file and found this:
From spin 712:
22
7
7
7
24
7
27
from spin 973:
21
7
7
7
31
24
7
34
This is not so abnormal. The sequences are close, but not exact. I've personally seen the same number spin 3 times consecutively many times. The fact that 7 spins 3 times consecutively in two relatively close groups is not unrealistic too. Rare, but not unrealistic.
Again I import spins only from profiles of my players that meet specific requirements, and are likely to be from real wheels. The rules are quite reliable, but nothing is 100% certain.
Also if everyone prefers RNG from something like a True RNG dongle, we can do that too.
Anyway the numbers above are not the game software. They are the spins I uploaded. If anyone feels strong about it either way, let me know.
Also on any important issues its best to PM me because I too easily miss threads. I almost missed this one.
I used the pattern detector (published freely) to check and each number has consecutive runs around the same amount of times each in the whole spin file. Around 5-8 times in the whole file for each number. So there are multiple sets like:
0
0
0
or
34
34
34
It's just rare to have it happen twice so close together.
So there is no bug in the software. If there is any problem, it would be with the spin file but I had a closer look and couldn't find anything problem with it either.
Is it possible the spin file has bad spins? Yes, but it's unlikely. Again in this case the sequences arent that extraordinary.
QuoteIt's just rare to have it happen twice so close together.
So there is no bug in the software. If there is any problem, it would be with the spin file but I had a closer look and couldn't find anything problem with it either.
Is it possible the spin file has bad spins? Yes, but it's unlikely. Again in this case the sequences arent that extraordinary.
this is good to know... :twisted:
Quote from: Steve on Sep 06, 06:07 AM 2017I checked the spin file and found this:
From spin 712:
22
7
7
7
24
7
27
from spin 973:
21
7
7
7
31
24
7
34
Well then, I guess I got duped by the closeness of the two very similar events. I suppose I should know better...
Sorry Steve.
No probs they were very similar