The funny thing happened to me yesterday.
I live in Poland, a few months ago my government, banned online gambling, all live online casinos stopped working as a block site.
Only betvoyager works but it is disconnecting piece of shit
I live in a small town of over 100k people, we have one B + M casino,
I did not go there, but since I do not have an alternative, I had a few days off then I decided to test out there.
I played 2 days for 5 hours every day, the third day I came and did not even take 15 minutes when pitboss came up to me and said they had finally found a casino rules section that I can not take notes. haha.
In this way I was even banned from B + M casino.
But the reason was a little different, I did not ruin the rules of the casino, because I did not save the falling numbers, I recorded the amount of spins and my private statistics.
I thought they scared the strategy and the discipline of the 840 spins I was only 10 units on plus.
It just funny and hating the whole gambling industry, I will write what I played.
Strategy is simple
I played hot sixlines in 50 spin cycles
I start with the first spin and put on the first fallen sixline, when the next sixline falls 2 times i start playing him and so i always play one sixline which has the most fallout, i change it only when the next sixline has more fall off that my and so to 50 spin. Then reset and start from beginning.
Quote from: ozon on Oct 07, 04:54 AM 2017
The funny thing happened to me yesterday.
I live in Poland, a few months ago my government, banned online gambling, all live online casinos stopped working as a block site.
Only betvoyager works but it is disconnecting piece of shit
I live in a small town of over 100k people, we have one B + M casino,
I did not go there, but since I do not have an alternative, I had a few days off then I decided to test out there.
I played 2 days for 5 hours every day, the third day I came and did not even take 15 minutes when pitboss came up to me and said they had finally found a casino rules section that I can not take notes. haha.
In this way I was even banned from B + M casino.
But the reason was a little different, I did not ruin the rules of the casino, because I did not save the falling numbers, I recorded the amount of spins and my private statistics.
I thought they scared the strategy and the discipline of the 840 spins I was only 10 units on plus.
It just funny and hating the whole gambling industry, I will write what I played.
Strategy is simple
I played hot sixlines in 50 spin cycles
I start with the first spin and put on the first fallen sixline, when the next sixline falls 2 times i start playing him and so i always play one sixline which has the most fallout, i change it only when the next sixline has more fall off that my and so to 50 spin. Then reset and start from beginning.
Hey Ozon,
believe me your government is looking after you... be proud of your government.
No they just want to keep revenue in the country. Eventually they'll probably legalize online gambling but only for casinos in the country.
Haha
This government draws taxes from B + M casinos, and these casinos are set to degenerate losing players.
Government banning online gambling to have a monopoly.
Government does not care about me, only about own money.
In general casinos dont like you taking stats, i think that the main reason they "harrassed" you. Aka they dont want you to figure out if their wheel is biased or not. A bit like:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=jnueFebjveE
Of cause today i assume most casinos are clever enough to change around wheel parts (or room/wheel if online).
As someone who can and wants to do simulations.
I do not know if the longrun will make sense.
But you have to see how it behaves the hottest sixline in 1000 spins cycle.
The selection is from the first spin of the hottest sixline, we change to another only when he overtakes our current selection of 1 hit.
Simulation must be done on a wheel with zero.
I would suggest doing a lot of such simulations every 1000 spins.
Then just evaluate what the average win in each cycle.
I would not expect anything special, each plus would be a success, even 3 or less units on 1000 spins would be a great success
Quote from: ozon on Oct 09, 12:15 PM 2017
As someone who can and wants to do simulations.
I do not know if the longrun will make sense.
But you have to see how it behaves the hottest sixline in 1000 spins cycle.
The selection is from the first spin of the hottest sixline, we change to another only when he overtakes our current selection of 1 hit.
Simulation must be done on a wheel with zero.
I would suggest doing a lot of such simulations every 1000 spins.
Then just evaluate what the average win in each cycle.
I would not expect anything special, each plus would be a success, even 3 or less units on 1000 spins would be a great success
forget it, it won't work... we said it before and we repeat it now.. no bets on the table's layout gonna win longterm
Quoteforget it, it won't work... we said it before and we repeat it now.. no bets on the table's layout gonna win longterm
and how the fuck do you know... :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
Quote from: maestro on Oct 09, 01:29 PM 2017
and how the f*** do you know... :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
Not i'm judging you, but don't be a dickhead... we have been studying roulette since years
QuoteNot i'm judging you, but don't be a dickhead... we have been studying roulette since years
you cannot judge me as you do not have knowledge to do so..and after all these years stdying roulette proves that you learnt fuck all
Quote from: maestro on Oct 09, 01:55 PM 2017
you cannot judge me as you do not have knowledge to do so..and after all these years stdying roulette proves that you learnt f*** all
10 signs you are a dickhead, one of them is ignorance about roulette
Quote from: kingmaq on Oct 09, 01:36 PM 2017. we have been studying roulette since years
is that Royal we you and that fucking cheat
Quote10 signs you are a dickhead, one of them is ignorance about roulette
nooo you are wrong...i know exactly where i stand about roulette...but you dont..and yes i am dickhead to morons like you...remember that when you go next time to roulette table and your bankroll sinks like shitt in toilet :xd: :xd:
Quote from: maestro on Oct 09, 02:29 PM 2017
nooo you are wrong...i know exactly where i stand about roulette...but you dont..and yes i am dickhead to morons like you...remember that when you go next time to roulette table and your bankroll sinks like shitt in toilet :xd: :xd:
hahah quit lying to yourself, it's not everybody around you that's the problem.
YOU are the Problem with your gambler's fallacy.
It's never too late to get your shit bankroll gone at the roulette table !!! go for it!
Wake up!!
QuoteIt's never too late to get your shit bankroll gone at the roulette table !!! go for it!
i do not think so...
Quote from: ozon on Oct 07, 04:54 AM 2017
The funny thing happened to me yesterday.
I live in Poland, a few months ago my government, banned online gambling, all live online casinos stopped working as a block site.
Only betvoyager works but it is disconnecting piece of shit
I live in a small town of over 100k people, we have one B + M casino,
I did not go there, but since I do not have an alternative, I had a few days off then I decided to test out there.
I played 2 days for 5 hours every day, the third day I came and did not even take 15 minutes when pitboss came up to me and said they had finally found a casino rules section that I can not take notes. haha.
In this way I was even banned from B + M casino.
But the reason was a little different, I did not ruin the rules of the casino, because I did not save the falling numbers, I recorded the amount of spins and my private statistics.
I am surprised that the pit boss asked you to stop taking notes -- I guess casino regulations differ from country to country.
Here in the US, you can take notes on paper as much as you like at the craps, roulette, and baccarat tables (though NOT on any electronic device, especially near the roulette wheel) .
Heck, you can even ask the dealers for a piece of paper and they will give it to you for taking notes.
Only at blackjack are you not allowed to take any notes at all (even on paper).
Quote from: ozon on Oct 07, 04:54 AM 2017
I played hot sixlines in 50 spin cycles
I start with the first spin and put on the first fallen sixline, when the next sixline falls 2 times i start playing him and so i always play one sixline which has the most fallout, i change it only when the next sixline has more fall off that my and so to 50 spin. Then reset and start from beginning.
Why do you start betting from the very first spin of your cycle?
Maybe you can wait for the first 12 spins (or a number in that vicinity) and then start betting on the double street (sixline) that has appeared the most till that point.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Oct 09, 03:41 PM 2017
I am surprised that the pit boss asked you to stop taking notes -- I guess casino regulations differ from country to country.
Here in the US, you can take notes on paper as much as you like at the craps, roulette, and baccarat tables (though NOT on any electronic device, especially near the roulette wheel) .
Heck, you can even ask the dealers for a piece of paper and they will give it to you for taking notes.
Only at blackjack are you not allowed to take any notes at all (even on paper).
Why ? What's the difference between taking notes on paper with taking notes on phone.
I'm not talking about variables measurement related to process physics, none of that.
Just the spin results and yes the device performs math/stats calculations.
Isn't it we state that predictions grounded on math/stats per se definitely fail, a fools errant ?
Instead it should be encouraged like that done with pen and paper.
There's a clear contradiction by this casino prohibiting rule.
If not, why taking notes on phone is not allowed ?
Btw it's allowed in some jurisdiction.
Casinos get nervous if you are taking notes, unless the notes look like you're tracking something like RBBRBBR - then they may even offer you free drinks. My players make their notes look like that so they don't get unwanted attention. Alternatively you can use hidden electronics to log data, but it's not legal in all casinos. Most casinos even supply pencil and paper.
Casinos get most nervous if you're working on electronic devices. Usually you're asked the step away from the table if you're using a phone.
There's a difference between something not being allowed, and being "illegal".
Try drawing a little diagram like this:
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/10/10/temp_814307.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/JUxa)
I guarantee they wont like you.
Kingmaq
You really do not understand, I presented the concept of behavior which is to be hottest by the lesser sector with it either on the table or on the wheel.
If you are so much attached to the wheel then divide it into 6 sectors and check the hottest behavior on 1000 spins.
You can even split it up into numbers and choose 6 hottest and change them only when another number becomes more hottest.
The results are statistics must be good and not the beliefs.
Quote from: ozon on Oct 10, 08:09 AM 2017
Kingmaq
You really do not understand, I presented the concept of behavior which is to be hottest by the lesser sector with it either on the table or on the wheel.
If you are so much attached to the wheel then divide it into 6 sectors and check the hottest behavior on 1000 spins.
You can even split it up into numbers and choose 6 hottest and change them only when another number becomes more hottest.
The results are statistics must be good and not the beliefs.
I like the selfconfidence you show, but I hate your stupidity, unless you prove me something different I don't know or you show the profit from your losing stragedy, I'll keep saying you're a loser.
I dont start attacking, you started.
Show me the money you won on roulette, You big winner. if you so profesional gambler show the money.
Two weeks ago You write so bullshit concepts in Steven1212 topic , that everybody laugh in silince , and You try call a loser.
Quote from: ozon on Oct 10, 08:26 AM 2017
I dont start attacking, you started.
Show me the money you won on roulette, You big winner. if you so profesional gambler show the money.
Two weeks ago You write so bullshit concepts in Steven1212 topic , that everybody laugh in silince , and You try call a loser.
First of all... Every loser on this forum feels hurt when we say that most of your stragedies lose long term, you might be today a winner by chance but you can't make it last.
Secondly, what concepts did i write in stevens's post, if you are a real man you show me that !
Last thing, try to improve your writing or at least be happy that your government stopping you from going broke on roulette.
Being poor, loser and unhappy hurts as f*** !!
Quote from: cht on Oct 09, 10:37 PM 2017
Why ? What's the difference between taking notes on paper with taking notes on phone.
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If not, why taking notes on phone is not allowed ?
Think the phone is the problem. B&M Casinos here allow you to take notes on paper and they even give you a pen and a leaflet with the wheel and table layouts, with a list with the 37 numbers sided by their respective neighbours. What they don´t allow is the use of cell phones and tablets. For fear of advantage play disguised as "taking notes", most probably.
You do not understand one thing, I dont giva fuck about roulette, This is hobby.
Even if you have a winning strategy, the fun will not last long because the casino will not let you win forever.
Besides, even if you have 5% edge over casino, you know how much time you have to devote to it.
I was a professional trader on betfair, now I am on forex.
You think that I rely on roulette.
Quote from: ozon on Oct 10, 09:27 AM 2017
You do not understand one thing, I dont giva f*** about roulette, This is hobby.
Even if you have a winning strategy, the fun will not last long because the casino will not let you win forever.
Besides, even if you have 5% edge over casino, you know how much time you have to devote to it.
I was a professional trader on betfair, now I am on forex.
You think that I rely on roulette.
I'm gonna believe you, I really want to believe you, but I know how stressful it's especially when you say "if i only knew !"
This forum is full of posts by rookies suddenly concluding it´s the wheel layout that matters. Yeah it´s a revelation to some. It´s also a matter of time before they realize both wheel and table layouts can make you lose your time and money in equal amounts.
The wheel deceives you by making you think that because you can see where the ball lands you are able to predict somekind of pattern forming that will give you an edge. Sure, the ball has been landing on the voisins for three spins in a row, so let´s bet on it. New method, sure winner. AP? What´s that? Aww look at all the suckers waiting for a dozen to repeat or something. Don´t they know any better. Suddenly the ball lands on every sector but the voisins and you´re there losing while the poor bastards are winning big by betting on whatever line that became dominant. You quickly move your chips around and bet on the tiers. A different voice called no more bets. They changed dealers without warning! Table layouters saw it coming and got away with the winnings. Ball drops on the voisins. "#$%& That´s roulette.
Quote from: psimoes on Oct 10, 10:15 AM 2017
This forum is full of posts by rookies suddenly concluding it´s the wheel layout that matters. Yeah it´s a revelation to some. It´s also a matter of time before they realize both wheel and table layouts can make you lose your time and money in equal amounts.
The wheel deceives you by making you think that because you can see where the ball lands you are able to predict somekind of pattern forming that will give you an edge. Sure, the ball has been landing on the voisins for three spins in a row, so let´s bet on it. New method, sure winner. AP? What´s that? Aww look at all the suckers waiting for a dozen to repeat or something. Don´t they know any better. Suddenly the ball lands on every sector but the voisins and you´re there losing while the poor bastards are winning big by betting on whatever line that became dominant. You quickly move your chips around and bet on the tiers. A different voice called no more bets. They changed dealers without warning! Table layouters saw it coming and got away with the winnings. Ball drops on the voisins. "#$%& That´s roulette.
You are fooling yourself if you don't believe it, You're the one who can't beat the wheel and you know it
Of course I can´t beat the wheel, that´s old news, I´m a system player.
Cheerio
Quote from: psimoes on Oct 10, 01:39 PM 2017
Of course I can´t beat the wheel, that´s old news, I´m a system player.
Cheerio
what system are you playing? the unstoppable martingale? :twisted:
You don´t want to know. It loses and nobody cares.
Going back to the topic of hottest sectors and numbers
Some time ago I uploaded a Turbo chart here
Indicating that hot numbers have peak
, to about 250 spins.
The strategy would look similar, or test 1 sixline up to 250 spin or 6 hottest numbers.
Quote from: ozon on Oct 10, 09:27 AM 2017
You do not understand one thing, I dont giva f*** about roulette, This is hobby.
Even if you have a winning strategy, the fun will not last long because the casino will not let you win forever.
Besides, even if you have 5% edge over casino, you know how much time you have to devote to it.
I was a professional trader on betfair, now I am on forex.
You think that I rely on roulette.
Hi ozon
Since you trade forex, I recommend you take a look at "trading" roulette the same way you trade forex.
You have to convert the mt4 indicators you use onto excel.
It works exceptionally well with roulette. IMO it's the best bet even more superior to AP and physics(if they work as claim in the 1st place).
The downside is the b&m casino allows you usage of your phone.
I remember talking about this concept.
But unfortunately I can not use the phone even in the room where there is roulette,
This is a big problem in BM casinos in my country, in other cities they have no problem taking notes but they do not allow to use any electrical devices.
The only way to go is to use live online casinos, but at the moment my government blocks access to almost all online casinos.
I would have to move to the UK, and at the moment I do not have a certain strategy that would guarantee a profit.