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Title: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Kattila on Oct 26, 10:54 AM 2010
Just ideas.........any pro / contra  opinions  welcome.
Maybe  someone already have tryed something similar
and can tell  his opinion.



A.

Wait  10 spins without any number repeat,
than start to bet that last 10 numbers, than comes new number
bet last 11 numbers, than  new number and bet  the last 12 nmbrs.,
than add new number  and so on until   bet  18 numbers, so the
last 18 numbers .
Progression :
for 10 numbers, than 11 numbers, than 12 numbers ...etc...

                    if lose     if  win

1. 0,10 x 10    -1          +2,6
2. 0,20 x 11    -3,2       +4
3. 0,20 x 12    -5,6       +1,6
4. 0,30 x 13    -9,5       +1,2
5. 0,50 x 14    -16,5     +1,5
6.     1  x 15    -31,5     +4,5      
7.     2  x 16    -63,5     +8,5      stop-loss at -63,5
.............................................
8.     4  x 17    -131,5   +12,5
9.     8  x 18    -275,5   +12,5    stop-loss -275,5


OR :


B.

Wait  7 spins without any repeat,
than start to bet that last 7 numbers, than comes new number
bet last 8 numbers, than  new number and bet  the last 9 nmbrs.,
than add new number  and so on until   bet  16 numbers, so the
last 16 numbers .
Progression :
for 7 numbers, than 8 numbers, than 9 numbers ...etc...

                      if lose     if win

1.  0,20 x 7      -1,4       +5,8
2.  0,20 x 8      -3          +4,2
3.  0,30 x 9      -5,7       +5,1
4.  0,30 x 10    -8,7       +2,1
5.  0,50 x 11    -14,2     +3,8
6.  0,70 x 12    -22,6     +2,6
7.  1,20 x 13    -38,2     +5
8.       2 x 14    -66,2     +5,8    stop-loss  -66
.............................................
9.       4 x 15    -126,2   +17,8
10.     7 x 16    -238,2   +13,8  stop-loss -238


Or


C.

Wait  12 spins without  repeaters(but if one number repeat still valid trigger),
than  bet that  12 numbers, if lose take the new number and don't  take
the last number, so replace with the new number  when  lose.


Progression for 12 numbers



1.    0,10 x 12                  -1,2            +2,4
2.    0,10 x 12                  -2,4            +1,2
3.    0,20 x 12                  -4,8            +2,4
4.    0,30 x 12                  - 8,4           +2,4
5.    0,40 x 12                  -13,2          +1,2
6.    0,60 x 12                  -20,4          +1,2
7.    1      x 12                  -32,4          +3,6
8.    1,50 x 12                  -50,4          +3,6
9.    3      x 12                  -86,4          +21,6     stop-loss at -86
.....................................................................          
10.  4      x 12                  -134,4        +9,6      
11.  6      x 12                  -206,4        +9,6


Cheers

Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: chrisbis on Oct 26, 01:05 PM 2010
Might try that later on real live wheel.

Just one small point about Ur description.

The use of the word *than* makes for confussing reading, maybe use *then* instead?

I know it will be seen as critique, but I'm saying it out of the need for clarity of purpose,
not in anyway having a go at Ur meanings.

Nice to see new ideas.
Partial Quote, (with re-write)>>

>
Wait  10 spins without any number repeat,
then start to bet the last 10 numbers;
then comes new number>
bet last 11 numbers;
then  new number
and bet  the last 12 Numbers.,
then add new number  and so on until   bet  18 numbers,<
so the  last 18 numbers .



I really Hope u dont mind my observation.

Regard chris


Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Fraudster on Oct 26, 01:35 PM 2010
Its quite likely that English is not Kattila's 'mother tounge'.

I have great admiration for anyone that can read/speak or write in more than one language, it's not easy at all.... language barriers often cause all manner of confusion.

Regards
Fraudster
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Kattila on Oct 26, 01:50 PM 2010
I don't mind  Chrisbis,  don't worry about that, and yes English
is not my *mother tounge*     ;)
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: chrisbis on Oct 26, 02:11 PM 2010
I did realise that, was trying to be polite in my rewrite observations!

yes, full admiration from me too Kat, esp as we *English* tend to expect the whole world to speak/text/translate into this here mother tongue!

I can do a little french, and my GF can stumble though a smattering of German.

We went to Barcelona few weeks back, and no matter how much native tongue I tried
everyone wants to speak English to you because they want to practice their English!!

Never get that in this country.

hats off to all the multilinguists in the forum :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: albertojonas on Oct 26, 06:58 PM 2010
hi everyone

i am portuguese. so i speak portuguese. i can also express myself in spanish, french and english.

other languages i can understand are italian and russian but not fluently.

cheers
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: chrisbis on Oct 27, 04:13 AM 2010
Wow.
That's fabulous.

Not so much hats off, more like well pass me the salt and pepper to go with this English only speaking bowler!!

Brilliant Albertojonas. magnificent
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Twisteruk on Oct 27, 04:43 AM 2010
Quote from: chrisbis on Oct 27, 04:13 AM 2010
Wow.
That's fabulous.

Not so much hats off, more like well pass me the salt and pepper to go with this English only speaking bowler!!

Brilliant Albertojonas. magnificent


10 pin  :D ?
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Skakus on Oct 27, 05:31 AM 2010
Try to snag a repeater like this. 

Example:

1 bet 1                 @1unit

31 bet 31
21 bet 31,21

18 bet 18                      
33 bet 18,33
9 bet 18,33,9                        -10

22 bet 22
23 bet 22,23
19 bet 22,23,19
36 bet 22,23,19,36             -20

0 bet 0
1 bet 0,1
19 bet 0,1,19
28 bet 0,1,19,28
26 bet 0,1,19,28,26            -35

12 bet 12      @2units      
4 bet 12,4                            
3 bet 12,4,3    
18 bet 12,4,3,18
17 bet 12,4,3,18,17
20 bet 12,4,3,18,17,20      -77

If you reach here you lose 77 units. 
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Kattila on Feb 01, 07:00 PM 2011
Repeaters....more ideas.

Track/update  the last 21 different numbers, no matter if some numbers repeats,
and start to bet  the last 3 nmbrs, then the last 6....etc...until the last 21 nmbrs.

1.   0,40 x 3      -1,2        +13,2
2.   0,50 x 6      -4,2        +13,8
3.   0,50 x 9      -8,7        +9,3
4.   0,70 x 12    -17,1      +8,1
5.      1   x 15    -32,1      +3,9
6.      2   x 18    -68,1      +3,9
7.      5   x 21    -173,1    +6,9

.......................................................

Same like above but track/update the last 25 diff. numbers
and  bet the last 5 , then the last 10....until the last 25.

1.     0,20 x 5         -1         +6,2
2.     0,30 x 10       -4         +6,8
3.     0,50 x 15       -11,5    +6,5
4.        1   x 20       -31,5    +4,5
5.        4   x 25       -131,5  +12,5

Or

1.     0,30 x 6      -1,8         +9
2.     0,50 x 10    -6,8         +11,2
3.        1   x 20    -26,8       +9,2
4.        3   x 25    -101,8     +6,2

........................................................

Same rules but bet the last 10, hen the last 15, finally the last 25 numbers.
1.     0,30 x 10        -3          +7,8
2.     0,50 x 15        -10,5     +7,5
3.         2  x 25        -60,5     +11,5



cheers
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: woods101 on Feb 22, 05:49 PM 2011
Hi Kattilla,

I have had similiar thoughts to the ones you describe above. They are covered in my post 'Put me out of my misery' in the notepad section. I'd love to know what you think, especially regarding targeting certain sections of past numbers based on the likelyhood of repeats.

Thanks
Woods
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Kattila on Apr 13, 06:54 AM 2011
This is for BV  to catch the repeaters, start from bet the last 5  numbers until last 25.
Trigger is ....when in the last 10 spins have max. one repeater ...start to bet.
Ex:   34,12,3,13,24,9,33,22,13,1   now bet the last 5, if lose bet the last 6 ...so on...

1.   0,03 x 5                -0,15          +0,93
2.   0,04 x 6                -0,39          +1,05
3.   0,05 x 7                -0,74          +1,06
4.   0,08 x 10              -1,54          +1,34
5.   0,10 x 12              -2,74          +0,86
6.   0,20 x 15              -5,74          +1,46
7.   0,50 x 20              -15,74        +2,26 
8.      2   x 25              -65,74        +6,26 



Or ,  this one ,start from 5 numbers until 12 numbers, then bet the
last 12..... last 12.....                      ( same trigger like above).

1.      0,03 x 5                -0,15          +0,93
2.      0,04 x 6                -0,39          +1,05
3.      0,05 x 7                -0,74          +1,06
4.      0,06 x 8                -1,22          +0,94
5.      0,08 x 9                -1,94          +0,94
6.      0,10 x 10              -2,94          +0,66
7.      0,15 x 11              -4,59          +0,81
8.      0,25 x 12              -7,59          +1,41
9.      0,40 x 12              -12,39        +2,01
10.    0,60 x 12              -19,59        +2,01
11.        1  x 12              -31,59        +4,41
12.    1,50 x 12              -49,59        +4,41  stop lose here or....
..............................................................................................
13.    2,20 x 12              -75,99        +3,21
14.    3,50 x 12              -117,99      +8,01
15.        5  x 12              -177,99      +2,01    END  or....
...........................................................................................
16.        8  x 12              -273,99      +14,01
17.      12  x 12              -417,99      +14,01   END





Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: chrisbis on Apr 13, 03:12 PM 2011
What method are u using to get from the 20 spun number, to the 25th spun number, after using up the three free spins?

U betting penny on something, or using Atlantis's idea of a Mutually Exclusive Bet Over-come?
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Kattila on Apr 14, 05:11 AM 2011
Quote from: chrisbis on Apr 13, 03:12 PM 2011
What method are you using to get from the 20 spun number, to the 25th spun number, after using up the three free spins?

U betting penny on something, or using Atlantis's idea of a Mutually Exclusive Bet Over-come?

Sorry Chris I didn t understand your question , the metod is above also
the trigger...but(i forgot) before start you need to have marked the last 25 numbers ,
always have update the last 25 numbers.
And about that 3 free spins, what do you mean ?
cheers
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Apr 14, 04:43 PM 2011
Quote from: Kattila on Oct 26, 01:50 PM 2010
I don't mind  Chrisbis,  don't worry about that, and yes English
is not my *mother tounge*     ;)
----Balaton--Atila
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: chrisbis on Apr 14, 06:50 PM 2011
If Ur playing at Bet Voyager, U only get 3 free spins.

How do u get 25 numbers out on the marquee ?
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Kattila on Apr 14, 07:03 PM 2011
I don't play there Chris(is just an idea to test) I only want to say ...to be used  in online casinos like BV  where allows low bets ...from 0,01  or 0,05.......
And if you only get  3 free spins,
meanwhile you can play for real another system and take down the last 25 numbers, right ?
by the way ...still doing good with  the catch of  the repeaters ? ( 3nbrs......17nbrs).

cheers

Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Apr 14, 07:41 PM 2011
I remember years ago Tiago did a test on the frequency of a repeat among unique numbers.  80% of the time it happened around the 12th number.
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: chrisbis on Apr 15, 01:39 AM 2011
Yer, that frequence sounds about right from my experience!  O0
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Kattila on Apr 15, 06:00 AM 2011
More progressions for repeaters ( last 7 .....until last 16).


1.    0,02 x 7             -0,14        +0,58
2.    0,04 x 8             -0,46        +0,98
3.    0,06 x 9             -1             +1,16
4.    0,08 x 10           -1,80        +1,08
5.    0,12 x 11           -3,12        +1,20
6.    0,18 x 12           -5,28        +1,20
7.    0,32 x 13           -9,44        +2,08
8.    0,50 x 14           -16,44      +1,56
9.        1  x 15           -31,44      +4,56
10.  1,80 x 16           -60,24      +4,56  stop lose


.............................................................................


Start from last 10 different  nbrs.....until  last

1.   0,03 x 10           -0,30          +0,78
2.   0,05 x 11           -0,85          +0,95
3.   0,08 x 12           -1,81          +1,07
4.   0,12 x 13           -3,37          +0,95
5.   0,20 x 14           -6,17          +1,03
6.   0,40 x 15           -12,17        +2,23
7.   0,70 x 16           -23,37        +1,83
8.   1,50 x 17           -48,87        +5,13  stop lose or.....
....................................................................................
9.        3  x 18          -102,87      +5,13   end
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Kattila on Apr 20, 07:18 PM 2011
Another one

First mark the last 18 numbers.
Wait 6 different numbers, then bet on that 6, if lose bet the last 12 numbers,
if lose bet the last 18 numbers, if lose bet the last 9, if lose bet the last 9.....


1.      0,04 x 6            -0,24          +1,2
2.      0,06 x 12          -0,96          +1,2
3.      0,10 x 18          -2,76          +0,84
4.      0,15 x 9            -4,11          +1,29
5.      0,20 x 9            -5,91          +1,29
6.      0,30 x 9            -8,61          +2,19
7.      0,40 x 9            -12,21        +2,19
8.      0,50 x 9            -16,71        +1,29
9.      0,70 x 9            -23,01        +2,19
10.        1  x 9            -32,01        +3,99
11.    1,30 x 9            -43,71        +3,09
12.    1,70 x 9            -59,01        +2,19
13.    2,30 x 9            -79,71        +3,09
14.        3  x 9            -106,71      +1,29   stop lose or....
..................................................................................... 
15.        4  x 9            -142,71      +1,29
16.    5,50 x 9            -192,21      +5,79
17.    7,50 x 9            -259,71      +10,29  End
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Kattila on Oct 03, 03:48 AM 2011
More....



A.



Wait 6 different numbers then bet on that six, if lose bet that 6 + the new

number...so on...till 9 numbers.  If lose go to level 2 , bet the last 6 numbers(the

last 6 from that 9 in level 1), if lost bet that 6 + the new number...so on...

If lose go to next levels without wait , just bet the last 6 numbers from the

previuos level.



Levels


L1.

1.  0,10 x 6      -0,60        +3
2.  0,10 x 7      -1,3          +2,3
3.  0,20 x 8      -2,9          +4,3
4.  0,20 x 9      -4,7          +2,5


L2.

1.  0,20 x 6      -5,9          +1,3
2.  0,30 x 7      -8              +2,8
3.  0,40 x 8      -11,2        +3,2
4.  0,50 x 9      -15,7        +2,3


L3.

1.    0,60 x 6      -19,3        +2,3
2.    0,70 x 7      -24,2        +1
3.        1  x 8      -32,2        +3,8
4.    1,40 x 9      -44,8        +5,6


L4.

1.    1,60 x 6      -54,4        +3,2
2.        2 x 7      -68,4        +3,6
3.    2,50 x 8      -88,4        +1,6
4.    3,50 x 9      -119,9      +6,1


L5.

1.      4  x 6      -140,9        +3,1
2.      5  x 7      -175,9        +4,1
3.    6,50 x 8      -227,9        +6,1
4.        9 x 9      -308,9        +15,1



---------------------------------------------------



B. 



Wait till have at least 18 numbers no matter if some repeats.

Now wait 6 different numbers then bet the last 18 numbers,

if lose bet twice the last 12 numbers, then 4 times the last

9 numbers,then 6 times the last 6 numbers( see progression).



1.    0,10 x 18        -1,8        +1,8

2.    0,20 x 12        -4,2        +3

3.    0,30 x 12        -7,8        +3

4.    0,40 x 9          -11,4      +3

5.    0,50 x 9          -15,9      +2,1

6.    0,70 x 9          -22,2      +3

7.        1  x 9          -31,2      +4,8

8.    1,10 x 6          -37,8      +1,8

9.    1,30 x 6          -45,6      +1,2

10.  1,70 x 6          -55,8      +5,4

11.      2 x 6          -67,8      +4,2

12.  2,50 x 6          -82,8      +7,2

13.      3 x 6          -100,8      +7,2    stop lose

Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: Chrisbis on Oct 03, 03:59 AM 2011
Nice Kat!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Repeaters method ideas
Post by: birdhands on Oct 03, 07:43 AM 2011
I really like the look of B.  Very nice.