Heres the sheet with 1st 3 days. You're only interseted in 1 st 10 spins, where you hope for a repeat.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/04/temp_863361.jpg) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/vE7r)
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/04/temp_290829.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/vSzx) Not added these 3 days yet
up to date
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/04/temp_811151.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/v1wZ)
Heres last 107 days using 1 st 10 spins +451
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/04/temp_467425.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/v3dD)
Good luck
Hey Nott
Can you explain your style of play and explain your charts? Or have you explained elsewhere ?
Thanks
Val
Val
All the above is using one daily game from Jackpot 247.com
The reply using last 107 days, is betting that a repeat happens in 1st 10 spins. I use a prog of 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3.
So as spins go we are betting upto 7#'s with 1unit, then 8#'s at 2 unit again 2 units if not a win and finally 10#'s with 3 units.
All 107 games is played with 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3. if a loss today then bet the same tomorrow.
Example here is Morts numbers today, so using his first 10 spins?
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/05/temp_289561.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/vBdy)
So we now be betting last 6#'s and win +15. I stop here as you can see more 10 spins are won with 1 repeat, why risk the winnings for another repeat in those 10 spins.
Val now the checkpoint box its showing upto 60 spins. Morts games are running at spins 11-40 avg is 15.2 non-hit and 60 spins is 29.2 non-hit. Today gave 16 non-hit #'s in spins 11-40 and over the 60 spins it gave 29 non-hits.
proof of live spins.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/05/temp_216265.jpg) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/vfxH)
Val see spins 1-10 repeat #27 ends 9/10. look to spins 51-60 there in photo they end 9/10.
But only using 1st 10 spins, win, so we wait for tomorrow now. But if you in B+M go to another wheel be in a new stream or chance the same wheel and start with 10 new spins, be warned have seen 10/10 come 3 times, but of those 107 days only had 2 days of 10/10 and at a cost of -92 units its still in plus :thumbsup:
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/05/temp_526279.jpg) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/vioU)
Thanks for that.
So let me get this right you are only betting on the first 10 numbers to repeat?
if this is correct why do you record 60, Are you just showing that the first 10 are more profitable than the next sets of 10 numbers?
Was the -92 loss with the result of wins in the game carried on on next unique numbers..? The total loss is 140 units a column if all lost or am I misreading?
Val
The daily game covers 60 spins more often than not. i use all the spins for my average document. It is Luck of the Irish data that got me interested in 1st 10 spins, so thats why theres only 109 games listing how many repeats happen in 1st 10 spins.
I have only marked it to see on all blocks of 10 spins how many get a repeat and as said i have seen 3 blocks of 10 spins hit 10/10 no repeat.
Are 1st 10 more profitable, dont know, but i play on FOBT so in each shop there are 4 machines, there are atleast 25 machines with in a 12 mile radius, so just using the 1 st 10 spins on each machine might be the way to go.
6th-sense
on the mentioned prog it costs 92 units, so if spin 11 is unique its -92, 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3 (link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/06/temp_521837.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/vnoB)
got it thankyou for explaining..all makes sense now
Are you waiting for no repeat in 10 then bet the next 10? I'm not sure when you bet.
I have actually played a variation of this in the past. I had very good results with it. If you are playing at a B &M casino, what do you recommend you do after you win? Say you win on spin 8, do you reset and just start with the one number bet immediately? Or do you recommend moving to a different table?
Thank you for the great info
Val
The bet would be 1st 10 spins, win or lose, its wait for tomorrows game, results are for 1st 10spins on a daily game. No increase to bet size, its still use 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3
Now how do we carry on, if win go to another wheel?
Its early days in testing.
Irish88
if win on spin 8 i'd see out the 10 spins.
Now the ? do we stay at this wheel or move.
On all daily game from J247 which is 721 games, if taken as a continuous set of games, there has been 3 days of 10/10,no win,this happened 5 times, there was 2 days of 10/10 then a 9/10 then another 2 days of 10/10 over 5 days.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/07/temp_340860.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/KSOL)
from where i started recording results its only had 2 days of 10/10 no win, below is Luck of the irish test, is it not after 7 spins the repeat is likely
This is a test I did in November. I tested over 1 million single zero RNG spins and got this:
2 3210
3 6251
4 9017
5 10906
6 12398
7 12852
8 12454
9 11478
10 10007
11 8619
12 6845
13 5243
14 3857
15 2730
16 1816
17 1128
18 687
19 355
20 246
21 96
22 61
23 29
24 16
25 5
26 3
27 0
28 0
29 0
30 0
31 0
32 0
33 0
34 0
35 0
36 0
The most unique numbers in a row was 25 (The 26 means it hit on the 26th spin, so 25 unique numbers in a row) and this happened only 3 times.
So in effect you are or it looks like you are betting one number at a time? Looking at the calculations
6th-sense
on the sheet 5/1/18 its 9/10 only 1 # repeats.
so its bet 27 using 1 unit lose
so its bet 27,5 using 1 units total 3units lose
so its bet 27,5,16 using 1units total 6 units lose
so its bet 27,5,16,18 using 1units total 10 units lose
so its bet 27,5,16,18,21 using 1units total 15 units lose
so its bet 27,5,16,18,21,29 using 1units total 21 units win #27 repeats +15 the prog is 1,1,1,1,1,1
Does it help this way, if after 7 spins and no win spins 8&9 use 2units per # and if spin 10 use 3 units, should total 92 units
Thanku for quick reply when I get back on hangman later I’ll note results down and play this virtually as I play to see how it fares
Playing on BV rng today I paid attention to the first 10 spins of each session, to see how Notto way behaves.
I did not bet, rng did not play against me and from my calculations came out a big minus.
I do not know how this strategy works in longrun, but from dozens of sessions I played today, minus was very big ..
ozon
Thanks for the report, this is why you test on on your played spins preferably whilst using another method, plus other peoples to see how it goes
Pretty cool system. I tested a few spins and getting good results.
I started playing the system a bit different not realizing that i wasn't playing it correctly. However, i'm yielding pretty good results so far doing it the way i do. But i'll try it your way next time and compare results.
Here is how i've been playing it using your progression 1,1,1--1,1,1,1--2,2,3
I start betting on the last spun number shown on the board
Last spin....14.....................bet on 14 (1 unit)
Next spin...23.....................bet on 14 & 23 ( 1u. each no.) ................-1
Next spin...12.....................bet on 14, 23 & 13 (1u. each no.) ...........-3
Next no.......0......................bet on 14, 23, 13, 0 ..................................-6
Next no......23.....................Win...........................................................+24
I restart by betting on the same no. spun last. it's no. 23.............bet 1u. on 23
Next no......34.......................bet on 23 & 34 (1u. on each no.)....................-1
Next no......12.......................bet on 23, 34, 12 (1u. on each).......................-3
Next no.......7........................bet on 23, 34, 7.................................................-6
Damn, not so good anymore. I'll try your way.
Carsch, here is the 1st 10 spins from the daily game, jackpot247. on total games you see 9/10 is the largest. We start this year using the 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3 untill lose, 7/1/18 if we just carry on with the prog 8/1/18 we'll be -2, now if you was to use the prog but increase to 2 units, so the win of 21 units would double so the -2 would now be +19.
But you have to know i've seen 10/10 come 3 times so increasing the units could get deep
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/08/temp_199518.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/KBvK)
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Carsh and Val working on something i've wanted to do, Carsh you have given me the push i needed.
I've gone back to the start, show 1st 11 spins, you can see lose on 29.12.15, 1st profit col will use 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3 always, never increase the unit from 1. The light pink we will increase the unit by 1 each time we go negitive on profit. So the lost game we are still in profit,+10, but should we use the lost game and increase to 2 unit, or like you see next game we win and profit grows, still at 1 unit.
As 9/10 is the most common in 10 spins, i'll only mark the 1st repeat
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/08/temp_219937.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/K7UD)
Ok so far
I decided to add the other repeats, blue for second, wont be another as a 7/10 dont happen untill 5/4/16. The 1st w/L profit is always using 1 unit, the Pink will increase to 2 unit if BR goes negative, the light purple will increase 1 unit on a loss, if a loss comes again then will go to 3 unit, so you see the light purple has gone to 2 unit, 3 times. On the horizon is 3 games going 10/10, but not till 28/4/16
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/08/temp_234475.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/KJXl)
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/08/temp_730360.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/Kgmi)
Highest in red
How's the system going? I thought of something else somewhat similar to your system. I haven't tried it yet. The idea is to select 9 or 10 numbers from 18 numbers, instead of looking for 10 numbers out of 37 numbers. So, we have 18 odd numbers and 18 even numbers. Select 9 odd numbers (or 9 even numbers), and bet that one of them will show up within 10 spins. Three of these 9 numbers must belong to each Dozen.
Example:
Dozen 1: 3,7,11
Dozen 2: 13, 17, 21
Dozen 3: 27, 29, 33
We got 9 numbers and play them until a hit. And we assume that we'll get a hit within 10 spins.
And if this works, we can have a friend playing the even numbers while we play the odd numbers.
This is a test i just did with 500 numbers from Random number generator website. That is what i usually use.
Using these odd numbers: 3,5,7,11---13,17,21---27,29,31
Only 3 losses
Note that there are many wins following each other. This makes it easier to recuperate from the losses.
36L
35L
23L
28L
20L
19L
22L
11W
34L
11W
18L
12L
4L
0
36
32
32
16
3W
1
5W
2
30
10
5W
18
6
1
36
30
21W
19
1
1
35
34
23
24
17W
30
24
17W
13W
11W
23
7W
11W
15
26
10
19
0
3W
26
23
34
32
1
9
5W
33
15
24
0
24
3W
18
28
11W
29W
35
8
24
23
15
12
28
9
13W
34
15
3W
30
24
0
34
5W
18
4
26
35
4
23
33
29W
21W
28
30
33
19
12
0
22
15
32
5W
7W
17W
3W
21W
12
11W
28
32
27W
14
15
31W
32
19
15
17W
27W
6
35
20
6
27W
22
1
14
21W
30
13W
27W
30
7W
29W
16
30
34
0
11W
18
8
5W
0
24
24
32
25
1
18
35
0
17W
3W
31
13W
1
3W
29W
23
33
34
32
12
30
20
0
13W
8
16
23
30
10
11W
20
0
26
33
32
16
21W
13W
0
8
8
22
20
34
9
14
33
6
3W
27W
7W
32
0
33
1
27W
15
0
23
8
16
35
12
10
0
1…………………………..LOSS
28
9
7W
15
9
25
33
5W
0
26
25
33
32
32
22
7W
34
21W
26
9
15
2
18
35
2
9
0
13W
31W
8
28
2
7W
18
13W
21W
15
9
26
28
12
22
17W
17W
0
34
14
36
28
35
12
17W
22
6
36
9
0
22
33
5W
1
34
33
6
20
21W
27W
19
7W
28
26
29W
15
28
2
24
23
28
27W
4
10
12
27W
9
18
25
31W
9
0
13W
26
15
22
21W
21W
29W
24
14
31W
7W
36
28
14
15
18
27W
16
28
9
1
7W
24
0
30
16
31W
12
8
7W
8
32
3
25
11W
30
25
35
29W
1
20
26
3W
22
24
36
28
9
13W
2
3W
25
19
36
30
31W
1
6
18
20
21W
28
6
1
23
6
2
13W
32
25
21W
16
29W
6
7W
34
3W
27W
36
21W
18
28
4
12
0
5W
18
35
25
12
7W
17W
19
2
8
21W
23
2
34
10
15
13W
11W
13W
2
33
25
35
3W
31W
36
25
14
15
19
4
31W
27W
20
25
14
25
28
7W
6
0
10
4
21W
25
3W
13W
34
32
1
9
18
11W
28
15
20
20
23
13W
13W
36
4
22
32
11W
17W
19
28
10
16
34
34
30
25
28
4………………..LOSS
15
15
14
0
30
1
3W
13W
30
22
15
25
14
18
34
13W
26
5W
22
6
27W
25
36
19
21W
14
36
22
2
20
36
33
19
1
35…………………LOSS
18
24
Ok, just thought about it, Because i'm playing 10 numbers all at the same time, a different progression will need to be used.
Carsh
stopped at 151 games, of the three bets being watched, 2 are still plus in red and 1 is heading further into a hole.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/13/temp_609164.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/nHyr)
Now Vladir gave some good info in colbster topic, on using 4 unique upto 8 unique. Well the 151 games where do the wins come, ie what spins.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/13/temp_126007.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/nZWx)
when betting 10 unique its gone 11 unique 26 times so a loss.
But is it better to start at 5 upto 9 like Ignatus in count 4, or Vladir
Efbet Hemus
Europe/Sofia time (06:20 - 08:30)
Stop on 1st repeat see out the 10 spins
35
17
9
33
12
2
20
9 R
34
36
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23
27
28
26
2
11
35
17
12
17 R
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19
10
7
11
15
2
5
1
1 R
36
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17
33
8
26
27
26 R
6
9
2
28
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31
35
16
8
34
29
28
4
24
30
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18
15
19
1
32
18 R
35
13
34
25
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2
35
9
32
36
24
33
32 R
36
24
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21
26
28
26 R
28
23
10
27
35
33
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31
1
18
23
34
35
27
14
6
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34
26
4
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16
32
26 R
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8
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25
3
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15
28
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29
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36 R of 10 above
10
21
19
Thanks, i'll further into this.
been playing on MPR, doing ok apart from game freezing and yes on a win, also like Maestro said it sometimes gives 2 #'s. otherwise MPR is fine.
Quote from: vladir on Dec 16, 12:06 PM 2014
Here is an idea based on what I shared above:
When we have 4 unique numbers, start betting them, flat up until 8 uniques maximum, risking only a maximum of 30 units... We will win about 47,5% of the time one of this values:
32
27
21
14
6
Then track again and keep flat beting or for example.... raise base bet by 1 unit on a loss, reduce by 1 on a win, reset when in plus.
Thanks for sharing that idea. I tried it, but I had not much luck. However, I changed to something else which, so far, seems to work. Here it is:
*I select 9 odd numbers, or 9 even numbers (3 numbers from each Dozen).
*I play these same numbers throughout the whole session.
*I do not change to Even numbers (you may if you want, however if you feel that Even numbers are showing up more often than odd numbers).
*I start by betting the first 4 of these 9 numbers.
*With every new spin, I add another number of the 9 numbers.
*On the last bet, I add all the 9 numbers.
Example:
My numbers are: 3,7,11 â€" 13,17,21 â€" 27,29,31
1st bet: 3,7,11,13
2nd bet: 3,7,11,13,17
3rd bet: 3,7,11,13,17,21
4th bet: 3,7,11,13,17,21,27
5th bet: 3,7,11,13,17,21,27,29,31…………(here I add two extra numbers instead of just one number)
Progression: Flat bet
At any time you have a win, you start over again
Below are the profits for every bet:
32 - 1st bet
27 - 2nd bet
21 - 3rd bet
14 - 4th bet
04 - 5th bet
Below are the accumulated losses with every bet lost:
4 â€" 1st bet
9 â€" 2nd bet
15 â€" 3rd bet
22 â€" 4th bet
31 â€" 5th bet
Example of a play a just did:
My numbers: 3,7,11 â€" 13,17,21 â€" 27,29,31
4L-4........betting first 4 (1,3,11,13)
10L-9……….bet first 5 (1,3,11,13,17)
2L-15
22L-22
21W+5………….bet all of them (9numbers)
24L
24
4L
22L-17
20L-25
33L-35
17L-39
10L-44
7W-14
19L-18
8L-23
36L-29
2L-36
11W-8
4L-12
23L-17
22L-23
15L-30
5L-39
1L-43
10L-48
32L-54
23-61
29W-35
4L-39
2L-44
16L-50
24L-57
20L-66
13W-34
16L-39
32L-44
28L-50
23L-57
27W-31………
31L-34
5L-40
10L-46
19L-53
3W-27………
10L-31
29L-36
5W-6……
2L-10
11W+21…..
32L+17
28L+12
11W+42…….
4L+38
30L+33
3W+63……….
18L+59
34L+54
27W+84…….
14L
19L
6L
2L
1L+53………
31L+49
3W+76……….
18
14
14
21W+90………
19
5
20
26
12L+59………
32
12
27
12
35L+28
11W+60…………
15
25
23
22
24L+29
14
11W+56……..
11W+88……
34
7W+115……..
28
31
12
4
36L+85……….
34
6
35…………………………………………….……………………………………………..100 SPINS
10
33L+54………
10
16
22
6
31W+59…..
4
8
9
14
6L+28……….
26
27
18
5W+42………
18
17W+69……
34
4
15
17W+83……..
34
11W+110……..
24
35
32
8
28L+79……..
33
30
30
9
31W+83……..
7W+115…….
19
21W+142…….
19
28
18
8
10L+111……….
0
23
16
11W+125……….
35
22
11W+146
5W+178……..
17
11W+205………
32
20
20
2
21W+209………
17
18
30
29W+223……….
2
3W+250……..
26
21
14
16
30L+219………..
27
11W+246……..
29
0
25
1
9L+215……….
34
36
1
25
15L+184………
3W+216……..
25
6
27
7W+230…….
15
8
23
0
7W+234……….
36
2
35
14
6L+203……….
2
26
26
27W+217…………………………………………………………………………….200 SPINS
35
12
6
35
23L+186………..
5W+218……….
0
27
14
7W+236……….
9
28
8
29W+250………
27
17W+277……….
23
7W+304
25
35
8
22
12L+273………..
12
31
30
6
33L+242……..
3W+274……….
14
11W+301……..
22
18
18
19
17W+305………
19
25
30
29W+319………..
26
15
22
22
23L+288…………
27
6
14
26
27W+292…….
20
35
3W+313…………
32
23
9
17W+327………..
33
34
15
36
16L+296………..
18
4
1
12
5W+300……………
31
2
21W+321……….
4
10
7W+342………..
12
12
14
1
14L+346…….
19
31
36
7W+360…..
3W+392……
12
27
4
10
9L+361……
5W+393……
33
23
0
6
35L+362………
28
19
23
9
1L+331……….
35……………………………………………………………………………….300 SPINS
13W+358……
5
30
10
24
29W+362…….
12
27
15
15
34L+331……..
2
18
20
9
20L+300……
13W+332……
18
24
28
25
2L+301…….
31
17W+328……
35
22
13W+349……
13W+371……
4
17W+398……
5
7W+425…….
18
13W+452……
34
23
30
21W+466………..
20
3W+483…….
20
7W+510…….
3W+542……
5
1
22
23
30L……..
18
21
33
10
23L+480………..
27
35
16
33
36L+449…………………………………………………….3 LOSSES IN A ROW = -93 UNITS
31
29
1
7W+463…………
36
23
27
7W+477…………
32
9
33
14
34L+446………
1
0
23
19
13W+450………
15
17W+477………..
35
5W+504………..
34
2
22
9
26L+473…………
25
3W+500………..
31
13W+527………
28
34
0
27W+531…….
4
26
26
9
28L…….
4
28
36
30
36L+469……….
12
35
33
20
28L+438…………………..…………………………………………………3 LOSSES IN A ROW
6
9
25
8
11W+442……….
32
30
32
28
9L………..
1
24
24
30
34L+380………………………..………………………..TOO MANY EVEN NUMBERS
5W+412………
20
32
13W+433……….
8
33
29
15
27W+437……….
23
23
23
30
6L……………
9
16
23
4
34L………
12
4
8
0
18L……….
26
10
16
32
24L+313……………………………………..…………………4 LOSSES IN A ROW
14
16
5W+334………..
21
34
2
23
6L+303…………..
2
22
10
1
13W+307……….
13W+339……..
1
3W+366………..
8
29
25
13W+380……….
20
31
12
33
30L………….
34
20
26
2
19L+318…………
31
3W+335…….
1
16
12
34
5L+304………..
28
27
18
17W+318……
9
17W+339……..
24
31
14
21W+353…….
15
36
11W+374…….
19
27
25
6
31W+378……….
4
10
18
18
12L+347………..
23
4
18
31
27W+351………
29
29
7W+372…………
21
34
29
28
21W+376………
4
31
21W+398
1
31
18
9
8L…………
34
33
20
24
26L…...
6
9
32
12
14L+306…………………………………………..3 LOSSES
3W+338
25
1
19
35
35L+307………….
24
25
16
7W+321……….
29
15
5
32
13W+325………
8
13W+352………
26
17W+373……
25
31
0
24
26L……….
22
29
10
6
6L………
5
18
22
30
15L……………………………………………..3 LOSSES
36
28
35
11W……
10
11W…..
33
33
28
4
2L………
16
4
32
32
4L……..
31
32
26
35
9L……………………………………………….3 LOSSES
4
28
0
21W…..
24
18
20
3W…..
18
0
34
3W……..
13W……..
34
5
1
10
20L……..
6
13W…….
30
25
31
8
3W…….
31
1
0
2
24L……..
16
31
32
29W……
30
7W……..
22
26
23
29W…….
13W…..
8
9
22
30
7W………
29
32
25
7W……
28
18
5
34
11W……….
9
11W……..
26
30
0
16
13W………
5
35
24
19
25L………
27
18
19
1
1L………..
24
3W………..
21
32
0
17W………..
12
20
11W……..
20
19
6
34
32L…………
16
12
0
26
8L………….
32
16
32
32
36L……………………………………..ALL EVEN NUMBERS
3W…….
9
26
15
20
4L……….
2
3W……….
6
5
10
25
14L……..
16
7W……
11W……….
21
6
31
9
18L………..
9
31
0
27W……..
8
32
20
16
28L……..
25
18
35
24
34L………….
27
25
8
20
29W……………
14
31
33
6
18L…………
23
2
3W………….
13W………
18
19
6
12
27W……..
3W………
34
33
9
0
1L………..
26
17W……
11W……..
34
1
21W……..
13W…….
3W……….
6
33
25
36
31W…….
27
1
11W…….
34
16
24
11W……
12
27
7W………
15
22
3W……….
10
29
29
7W………
3W……
33
31
15
18
20L……..
33
7W…….
12
35
0
23
2L……
32
27
33
26
12L…….
25
19
10
9
9L……………………………………..3 LOSSES
3W……
27
23
15
22
22L………
15
14
11W………
8
10
12
3W……..
1
35
11W……..
9
5
22
11W…….
22
33
34
10
29W……..
12
36
27
32
16L……..
18
8
3W……
31
32
9
3W…..
8
0
15
4
12L……
14
27
17W……
21
33
5
36
5L……
4
18
21W…….
6
3W…..
9
35
33
25
10L…….
29
28
1
24
16L…….
0
23
28
23
20L……………………………………………………………3 LOSSES…..
5
3W……..
28
36
5
20
6L……..
18
31
20
27W…..
35
27
25
5
25L………
35
33
25
16
24L…….
1
28
34
1
22L…….
25
6
18
2
22L……………………………………………………………4 LOSSES
15
10
24
17W…..
22
6
17W…….
30
34
18
36
34L……..
18
35
28
12
7W…….
36
25
5
31
7W…….
22
23
36
27W………
8
16
25
4
10L……….
15
4
23
12
34L……….
25
20
30
27W……
19
24
25
2
7W…….
14
22
32
30
13W…..
0
1
30
28