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Title: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 28, 06:41 AM 2010
--THE RESULTS ARE EVIDENT
and its tested on 40 Weisb.actuals of about 400 spins,
and never failed as yet.
I wonder why???
Maybe some of you maths guys can unswer it. 8)
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 28, 06:43 AM 2010
Read only 4 vertical columns.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 28, 09:15 AM 2010
This gents is a method I discovered by a fluke while was preparing to send
you explanation of other bet that posted in diff. thread.
So instead have decided to show you this method,even thought both methods are
on the same principles--crossings of columns and dozens.

---this is a flat bet
---it is automatic bet
---which consist of betting 24 numbers,on following rules;

crossings-------------------------splits-----------------doz-&-col.-crossings

1-                                           1/4-7/10                                          1
2-                                           2/5-8/11                                          2
3-                                           3/6-9/12                                          3
4-                                       13/16-19/22                                        4
5-                                       14/17-20/23                                        5
6-                                       15/18-21/24                                        6
7-                                       25/28-31/34                                        7
8-                                       26/29-32/35                                        8
9-                                       27/30-33/36                                        9

--At the start only tracking several spins until 3 different crossings hit;

spun number                           crossing                     

34                                              7
5                                                2
31                                              7
6                                                3-now start betting against spun 3 crossings
                                                     on remaining  6 unhited crossings,which actually                   
                                                     are 12 splits.
16                                              4                           w-6
33                                              9                           w-6
11                                              2                           w-6
13                                              4                                                L-12

---AND SO ON--continously.always betting against last 3 spun crossings.

--I have tested 40 weisbad. act.-about 15000 spins,and neither session
have lost.

--This is nothing alike 2 doz. or col.-versus 1/as we know it loses on the house edge.Its incredible how successful this thing works.
I really haven't got a clue why.What do you think.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: StackBundles on May 28, 09:57 AM 2010
only had a quick look and noticed a few repeats if this happens alot then this will make alot of money betting str8 up on the numbers


2-2
8-2 R
9-3
3-3 R
1-1
35-8
29-8 R
4-1
31-7
11-2
28-7
14-5
19-4
12-3
3-3  R
8-2
12-3
9-3 R
6-3 R
25-7
28-7 R
1-1
2-2   Ã,£160 PROFIT
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: warrior on May 28, 10:07 AM 2010
HI  are you using progression or flat bet thanks for sharing.  sorry its a flat bet did not read properly thanks
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 28, 10:38 AM 2010
Quote from: StackBundles on May 28, 09:57 AM 2010
only had a quick look and noticed a few repeats if this happens alot then this will make alot of money betting str8 up on the numbers


2-2
8-2 R
9-3
3-3 R
1-1
35-8                         w-6
29-8 R                                                            L-12         
4-1                                                                 L-12
31-7                                          W-6
11-2                                       [cW-6[/color]
28-7                                                                         [col  L-12[/color]
14-5                                          W-6[/color]
19-4                                [color  W-6[/color]
12-3                           [color=redW-6[/color]
3-3  R                                                               [color=redL-12[/color]
8-2                            W-6
12-3                                                                 L-12
9-3 R                                                                L-12
6-3 R                                                                L-12
25-7                          W-6
28-7 R                                                              L-12
1-1                            W-6
2-2   Ã,£160 PROFIT

you did some wrong there

Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: warrior on May 28, 10:49 AM 2010
f lat  what do you do when the 0 hits do you remain on the same bet  thanks warrior.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: Kattila on May 28, 11:05 AM 2010
Thanks  *Flatino*     ( I.  B........N)   for this system , too.
You old man, old brain , but still  good systems and ideas.
Thanks again for share , and let test this baby.
I see you  only flat bet  splits  until now.
If  have to  use progression, do  you use +1 at loss/ -1 at win  ?
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 28, 11:19 AM 2010
Quote from: warrior on May 28, 10:49 AM 2010
f lat  what do you do when the 0 hits do you remain on the same bet  thanks warrior.
continue same bet

Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: warrior on May 28, 11:26 AM 2010
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 28, 11:19 AM 2010
continue same bet


thank you
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 28, 11:32 AM 2010
Quote from: Kattila on May 28, 11:05 AM 2010
Thanks  *Flatino*     ( I.  B........N)   for this system , too.
You old man, old brain , but still  good systems and ideas.
Thanks again for share , and let test this baby.
I see you  only flat bet  splits  until now.
If  have to  use progression, do  you use +1 at loss/ -1 at win  ?

the method in other thread was on that basis with several rules
and conditions which I find difficult to explain.These days will put all that in excel
for better understanding.My brain works excelent,especially every night in casino.
Would be nice if someone would test this RX/whatever it means/-but I find this method very easy and relaxing to play--AND VERY PROFITABLE.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 28, 12:38 PM 2010
If you test this bet principles on other similar bets--2 dozen vers. 1 dozen--
2 columns vers.1 column,you will find it loses on the flat bet basis in both
cases on the long run.You will notice in posted attachment I have started to test it
under N-0-P-Q vertical columns,-8 streets vers.4 last spun streets--but gave up after 14
spins with 48 chips minus,while this method on crossings was 24+
In the meantime have tested 2 more/all by hand/Weisb.act.-and same results.
It just confuses me why it wins continously.Maybe some of you got the unswer.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: WhiteKnight on May 28, 12:43 PM 2010
if there are alot of repeaters, this seems to take a sh!t kicking, just something i noticed from limited hand-testing
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: warrior on May 28, 12:49 PM 2010
I THINK IF WE USE HERMS levller progression it will do well and bet after LW  TO CATCH STREAKS.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 28, 12:50 PM 2010
Quote from: WhiteKnight on May 28, 12:43 PM 2010
if there are alot of repeaters, this seems to take a sh!t kicking, just something i noticed from limited hand-testing
I suggest you test it on the night session basis,which is about 400 spins
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: crikey on May 29, 12:05 AM 2010
Hi F-L

I had 3 losses on a card of 30 spins and still came out with a +12u.  (virtual) B & M live game.

I know this is early days and a repeating day could hurt.   It would be wise for some brainstorming on this and also considering 123 is D1  456 - D2  789 - D3 maybe the answer to watching for repeats could be within this.   Just a thought.

Definetely worthy of testing is an alternative to playing 2Dz or 2 Cols.

Crikey
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: bene126 on May 30, 09:13 AM 2010
HI all. I think it is the same like method where we have 9 groups of numbers and we are betting on the last 6 groups which has not hit in latest spins.  It is the same.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 30, 10:00 AM 2010
Quote from: bene126 on May 30, 09:13 AM 2010
HI all. I think it is the same like method where we have 9 groups of numbers and we are betting on the last 6 groups which has not hit in latest spins.  It is the same.


--MERCEDES & FIAT ARE CARS---BUT NOT THE SAME.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: warrior on May 30, 10:06 AM 2010
F LAT are you still winning wiyh this method thanks warrior.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 30, 10:23 AM 2010
Quote from: warrior on May 30, 10:06 AM 2010
F LAT are you still winning wiyh this method thanks warrior.

It's still in experimenting stage/tested with 54 Weisbeden perm.
sessions of about 320-400 spins each/47 winning ones and 7 losing ones,and these 7 are in last 14 sessions.Which shows me that it can lose also on flat bet basis.
Maybe with some mild progression we could make this more successful.
Any ideas are velcome.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: warrior on May 30, 10:39 AM 2010
f lat i think  herbs levller prog. or atlantis prog . the best of five might work .
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: Kattila on May 30, 10:58 AM 2010
Not herb , warrior  , Hermes leveller .
We have to try that progressions, too.   ;)
I agree, we have to chach  :ww streaks,
it is my  way to play on 24 numbers systems.
But if will still work Flat bet, better, will see.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: warrior on May 30, 11:10 AM 2010
yes thanks for correcting me hermes.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: warrior on May 30, 11:11 AM 2010
Quote from: warrior on May 30, 10:39 AM 2010
f lat I think  hermes levller prog. or atlantis prog . the best of five might work .
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 30, 11:35 AM 2010
Neither of these 7 losing sessions/out of 56 now/didn't lose great
amount/the most was 84 chips--and the smallest lose was 18-chips.
The Hermes is 1-down on win......2 up on lose,if I remember it rightly.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: warrior on May 30, 03:02 PM 2010
F LAT QUESTION how many straight wins have you had in a row highest
thanks
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 30, 03:59 PM 2010
Quote from: warrior on May 30, 03:02 PM 2010
F LAT QUESTION how many straight wins have you had in a row highest
thanks

--HAD TO CHECK IT UP.....19 wins in the row,and the longest
los in the row was 7/only once in 56 sessions./
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: warrior on May 31, 03:55 PM 2010
100 spins  hermes leveller               atlantis balance 5      flat bet
                                                                                               

                    +27 units                               +9 units                 -7
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on May 31, 04:48 PM 2010
Quote from: warrior on May 31, 03:55 PM 2010
100 spins  hermes leveller               atlantis balance 5      flat bet
                                                                                               

                    +27 units                               +9 units                 -7
In how many spins???
I usually test it with Weisb.-act.-of about 350 spins---63 sessions tested
w-54
L-  9 sessions.............all flat bet.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: warrior on May 31, 04:54 PM 2010
hi flat so you want me to test 350 to 400 in one session correct, with the -7 there was a streak of11 in arow where i could  of quit where are you getting all yor results could you give me the sight so i could test where you are testing thank you warrior.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Jun 01, 04:02 AM 2010
Quote from: warrior on May 31, 04:54 PM 2010
hi flat so you want me to test 350 to 400 in one session correct, with the -7 there was a streak of11 in arow where I could  of quit where are you getting all yor results could you give me the sight so I could test where you are testing thank you warrior.
From original Weisbaden actuals,downloading it and testing.
You can download any table any past or present date.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Jun 07, 06:25 AM 2010
Have tested some more and come to conclusion that it has
sometimes very many repeats and can take your BR very low,
therefore no bussines here......BUT....on the same method you can
try instead--BETTING ALWAYS ON LAST SPUN 6 CROSSINGS---
I think you will find it very interesting.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: keel44 on Jun 07, 12:26 PM 2010
24 numbers are 24 numbers no matter how you slice it.    The only key is when to bet.   

I always have liked the last 12 numbers that have shown and to pick 12 numbers that have yet to show.   (12 repeaters/12 sleepers) 24 total  Bet once and then wait another 12. 

That is not real practical however. 
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: Kattila on Jun 08, 01:16 AM 2010
*Have tested some more and come to conclusion that it has
sometimes very many repeats and can take your BR very low,
therefore no bussines here......*

Flatino, have you tryed bet only after the first W(after one or more Ls),
so (LL..)Lw.....bet now , until appear the first L, than stop
and wait another trigger?
I see this method can generate some long
::w streaks, right ? Let s  try to catch this :ww streaks.

:)
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Jun 08, 05:56 AM 2010
Quote from: Kattila on Jun 08, 01:16 AM 2010
*Have tested some more and come to conclusion that it has
sometimes very many repeats and can take your BR very low,
therefore no bussines here......*

Flatino, have you tryed bet only after the first W(after one or more Ls),
so (LL..)Lw.....bet now , until appear the first L, than stop
and wait another trigger?
I see this method can generate some long
::w streaks, right ? Let s  try to catch this :ww streaks.

:)


I only test this on flat bet basis.Am aware that after 2-3 LL-LLL
virtuals it mostly comes as a long run winner,but there you are moreless sitting
on the table without any action,and I prefer to punt continously,that's why am
experimenting with continous flat bet methods.I really have a e/c bet with wait
periods that never fails on the night session of about 350 spins,but its bored and am not satisfied with 18-30 units profit for 8 hours work.Its just me.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: Kattila on Jun 08, 07:10 AM 2010
I understand  , you don t  wait  the virtual Ls.
I do  wait the virtual Ls and the first  w (playing online), and  give
good results this system and others i have with 24 numbers.
sometimes use some progressions  like Leveller , or  +1 / -1. 
About the other Ec system , yes 18-30 in 8 Hours, is not  enough for
you  for me and many others....Maybe  40 in 2 hours (for me yes).

So , anyway is a good system, thanks.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: blablablu on Jan 13, 06:38 AM 2011

Method is effective with mild progression.
Method works because in the statistic the 6 numbers in the crossings that you are betting against would not repeat itself that much in the 4th spin often, specially in the real life betting, you just have to be patient.
Rule: Do not go to the war without weapon(bankroll).
Small sessions 30-50 spins can generate profit, if you know when to walk out.
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: sekuritati on Jan 13, 07:05 AM 2011
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Jun 08, 05:56 AM 2010

I only test this on flat bet basis.Am aware that after 2-3 LL-LLL
virtuals it mostly comes as a long run winner,but there you are moreless sitting
on the table without any action,and I prefer to punt continously,that's why am
experimenting with continous flat bet methods.I really have a e/c bet with wait
periods that never fails on the night session of about 350 spins,but its bored and am not satisfied with 18-30 units profit for 8 hours work.Its just me.

F_Lat_ino,

Since some of us are more inclined to play grinder methods, would you mind showing us this EC bet? I dont see anything wrong with 25-30 units profit over 8 hours, thats about 4-5 units an hour, imagine if the unit size was 50 or 100$
Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: kawa4711 on Jan 13, 01:16 PM 2011
Hi,
F_LAT_INO

[quoteI really have a e/c bet with wait
periods that never fails on the night session of about 350 spins][/quote]



This sounds interesting, could you kindly  tell us more about this?

With kind regards

kawa4711



Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: Boo_Ray on Jan 28, 03:51 AM 2011
maybe a little twist to awould L streaks..
After L stop playing until virtual W.. then bet until L again.. and so on :)

Title: Re: RE-1/2-CROSSING WINNING METHOD
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Jan 28, 04:39 AM 2011
Quote from: Boo_Ray on Jan 28, 03:51 AM 2011
Maybe a little twist to awould L streaks..
After L stop playing until virtual W.. then bet until L again.. and so on :)


Have tried it Boo_Ray,and it works good as well testing it
on these 350-400 spin sessions...but what testing on 100000 or 1000000 spins
show?????--Long time no hear from you.