Method is simple.
1. Track until a number repeats.
2. Place one unit on every repeater during the First 37 spin cycle.
3. As soon as you get a hit on one of the repeaters and are at a new High, stop and retrack from the beginning.
4. When after the First cycle of spins you are not in profit, place +1 unit on every repeater that you Have found in the past 37 spins of play and spin until you reach a new High. Do this until the 2nd cycle is over (74 spins) No further raising, Just Keep the bets the same 2 units on All repeaters until the cycle is over or as soon as you Have reached a new High, the start retracking from the start. When not at a new High at spin 74, we then raise All our reoeaters to 4 bets each and continue as above for the next cycle of spins up to spin 111 or stop as soon as you Have reached. New High.
5. Continue this progress every next spin cycle of 37 spins with a raising of the following progression.
1/2/4/8/16/32/64/128/256 :ooh:
6. I ran a test of 20.000 spins and i never reached the progression where i Have to place 32 units on each repeater. 16 was the biggest in the Table it went until i got a profit. So i had a Max of 5 Block of 37 spin cycle until i Have reached. New High.
Have fun - Eddy
A Side Note:
We Always play only the repeaters we've got from the first spin cycle and we them until we have reached a new High. After spin 37 we never add new repeaters to the list.
I'm one session i had 15 repeaters and played with All those for the rest of my session. And guess what, even with so many numbers covers i did reached a new High in Block 3. Just flat bet every spin cycle with the marti progression. so is this a HG? Who knows. :wink:
Further more, with this progression you'll need to get 16 hits out of 37 spin to get to a new High (15 repeaters) this was the Most i Have to do. Never failed. And if it fails it will recover in the next cycle or the one after that!
To play up to 16 units per bet on 15 numbers in the progression you'll need 16660 units as a bank. To play all the way through, but this Will almost never happen. In those 20.000 spins it happend 2 Times and won at the End.
Most of the sessions you Have captured between 6 and 12 repeaters during the First cycle of spins and you'll be at a new High in the second cycle.
The profits aren't big on Most Times but it is profit. Remember, as soon as you get to a new High, how Small the winnings are, retrack again for a new series of repeaters.
And NEVER raise your bets during a cycle, only after each cycle of spins you raise according to the progression bar, never before.
Forgot one More thing.
When we are in a cycle and we get a hit on one of our numbers and we are not at a new High, we don't raise that number, we Just continue Spinning until the cycle is over or when we are at a new High.
You can also continue if you like when you got to a new High but you feel the profits are not big enough (greed - be careful) you then Lower All bets on those numbers to one again and continue like we did before.
But if i were you i would take the Small profit and start of from scratch. It's not a Bill payer, but a Nice bonus to add to you income.
Latest Live Roulette Play Sessions I did when i woke up and had 3 cups of coffee :yawn:
+20 euro (26 spins)
+8 euro (19 spins)
+8 euro (42 spins)
+19 euro (53 spins)
+11 euro (32 spins)
Total profit of 66 euro in 4 sessions.
Nice way to begin the day Without stress.
Remember that the winnings maybe Small, but Small winnings Will grow too.
Playing Time was a little over 1h and 20 minutes. And three cups of dark water :wink:
One other option is to play the same way as said above but with the only change that now you only raise a hitted number and leave the rest the same as when starters the cycle. So everytime a repeater hits we place 1 unit extra on it. Another way is to See after each cycle wich numbers Have hitted More then once and we then raise those numbers. The possibilities are endless.....
Just played another session of 74 spins, but this time i would bet every repeater that Fell in the First 37 spins. And eachtime a repeater was hit i raised that number with 1 unit.
When the First cycle was over i would only play tye repeaters that were caught in the previous 37 spins and continue to raise a number with 1 unit everytime it hitted.the results were...
74 spins played.
364 euro profit.
With Special thanks to #11 Who appeared 5 Times! :thumbsup:
Now i'm done for 3 days. My win goal every day is 100 euro. See you again sunday my roulette wheel. :wink:
Quote from: jekhb76 on Mar 29, 12:52 AM 2018
Just flat bet every spin cycle with the marti progression.
Not flatbetting, then...
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 29, 06:50 AM 2018
Not flatbetting, then...
You can play Both. I Just search for the Right direction.
Did you test Both ways Big?
UNo, I changed diapers and fed the kids, instead.
Personaly i prefer raising only the numbers that hit during every cycle.
Because if i flatbet and raise All with 1 unit every cycle there is a change that i loose way More then when i don't flatbet.
It Sounds silly, but it isn't.
Let's say i'm not at a new High at the End of the First cycle, i then raise All with 1 unit. Say we have 10 repeaters from our session. From now on until spin 74 we bet every spin with 20 units.
Now when All Goes wrong as it can be, we don't get a hit during the next cycle of 37 spins! It will probably not happen, but let's say it does. Then at the End of the second cycle i Have lost 740 units due to my flatbetting. this problem won't acour when i would Have bet only the numbers that Have hitted, i would Have lost 370 units!!! Thats half of it.
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 29, 07:33 AM 2018
UNo, I changed diapers and fed the kids, instead.
I know how that's like, i Have 6 kids where two of them are 9 months and one almost 2. But i was away, so my wife had to take care of that. But i'm sure it's my turn when i get Home. Or maybe not when i give het some of my 300 euro winnings from this morning :wink: :wink: :wink:
16660 units br, that is too much for me.
The best system, even if it can fail, is one that offers a good ratio br/profit. I'd add a risk factor in it. So, my opinion, 3 starting variables: br, profit, risk. And find a proper ponderation that the player is comfortable with.
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 29, 07:59 AM 2018
16660 units br, that is too much for me.
The best system, even if it can fail, is one that offers a good ratio br/profit. I'd add a risk factor in it. So, my opinion, 3 starting variables: br, profit, risk. And find a proper ponderation that the player is comfortable with.
I know, but that bankroll is required when you get No hit in 5 37 spin cycles with the repeaters from cycle 1. That is almost impossible. So you don't Have to have that kind of money to play this System. But i said that because it is the max it can cost you when All things go wrong as they can be. I'm now working on a way that is More safe. But this method is a good Starting Point for a ptoftibale repeaters System.
We can also deleting a repeater when it has hit 3 Times using the 2/4/8 progression. This Will also cut the expenses.
After further testing, i came to the conclusion that betting All repeaters as they show and only bet them when they are hit with the 1/5/25 progression is the best way to play and profit well from repeaters. Any other thoughts.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Mar 29, 12:14 PM 2018
After further testing, i came to the conclusion that betting All repeaters as they show and only bet them when they are hit with the 1/5/25 progression is the best way to play and profit well from repeaters. Any other thoughts.
Have you tried it on MPR with a 1000 BR, you'll find you have to reset BR as it's to aggressive, better start on there with the old 1,2,3,4,5
Taking 1st profit like you say, as and when BR grows then you can use a stronger prog
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 29, 12:35 PM 2018
Have you tried it on MPR with a 1000 BR, you'll find you have to reset BR as it's to aggressive, better start on there with the old 1,2,3,4,5
Taking 1st profit like you say, as and when BR grows then you can use a stronger prog
Yes, Just found out that a br of 3000 units on rs isn't enough to play this way, lost All. Further more i think that betting All repeaters is also killing. I had 24 one Time at spin 164, and had a 265 bet per spin.... :question: and this was only repeaters....
What if you have 27 spins and not a single repeater? What bankroll you need for this?
Quote from: Lucky7Red on Mar 29, 12:39 PM 2018
What if you have 27 spins and not a single repeater? What bankroll you need for this?
None. I would 't Have bet anything.
What if we take of the 25 in our progression line? So instead of 1/5/25
We know only play 2/5? So when a number becomes a 4peater we drop that number and continue. And Always reset when in profit.
We start at 2 units per spin because we then could Have a Decent profit to stop with. Just thinking
Quote from: jekhb76 on Mar 29, 12:57 PM 2018
What if we take of the 25 in our progression line? So instead of 1/5/25
We know only play 2/5? So when a number becomes a 4peater we drop that number and continue. And Always reset when in profit.
We start at 2 units per spin because we then could Have a Decent profit to stop with. Just thinking
I ment 2 units per repeater bet. And that we take of the 25 in our progression line.
Just did a test not to stop but to continue until i would Have won 1000 units profit with this adjustment.
I did around spin 173 won 1108 units.
You can watch my session at RS user name is jekhb76.
I played every repeater that came and when one hit for the third Time i put 5 units on it. When. Number was hit for the fourth Time i drop that number. I did this with every new repeater that came. Look for yourself.
So far looking good, but First profit is Always the best option. This is Just for education only.
Use the 1,2,3,5,10,15, 25,50, if get this point go to the 75 then if go to the 100 just play the 4 hottest at all times. On mpr had +20000 units and had 4 hottest with 100, was winning but because could not increase to 125 the repeats on hot ones kept hitting but the amount of spins between hits meant BR was dropping, but if could carried on with more progression, would kept in front. There was plenty of opportunities to take a higher bank roll, but as was testing had to see the end result, blew the lot.
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 29, 02:03 PM 2018
Use the 1,2,3,5,10,15, 25,50, if get this point go to the 75 then if go to the 100 just play the 4 hottest at all times. On mpr had +20000 units and had 4 hottest with 100, was winning but because could not increase to 125 the repeats on hot ones kept hitting but the amount of spins between hits meant BR was dropping, but if could carried on with more progression, would kept in front. There was plenty of opportunities to take a higher bank roll, but as was testing had to see the end result, blew the lot.
So you were betting on Max 4 numbers only All the Time?
So start with the First 4 repeaters and when More repeaters come, do i drop the oldest and then add the newest repeater and add the same units as the one deleted?
Quote from: jekhb76 on Mar 29, 02:10 PM 2018
So you were betting on Max 4 numbers only All the Time?
So start with the First 4 repeaters and when More repeaters come, do i drop the oldest and then add the newest repeater and add the same units as the one deleted?
Yes
on the side of the sheet i wrote the prog, soon as 1 repeated i started betting with 1 and as they repeat and 4 where being bet, as soon as another came, yes drop the oldest of the 4 maintaining the 4 hottest.
Now lets assume you are betting 4; R1 and an old R1 hits, this R1 becomes R2, so this R2 is bet, 2 units, you'd now have to drop the oldest of the R1, so be betting 3,R1 and 1, R2, lets say the 1; R2 repeats, it goes R3, you'd still be betting the 4 hottest
If any old R1 hits, it becomes R2, adjust so betting the 4 hottest, there comes a point when R1 can hit but they are behind as R4, R3 and R2's are hottest and just get left behind
Now on the marquee you should be able to see the hottest and can keep an eye on what Denzie said gaps, on MPR with 20 numbers showing you can see the hottest of the hot having more and more spins, getting cold, so its decision time do you drop the hottest of the 4, I just kept to the 4.
This worked great, but the 4 at 100 cost because unlike R-Sim i could not raise up and as said there was plenty of times i had a new high, but once i started and it is a test after all i just carried on but the lower R's where hitting slowing the hot ones down
I Will try Mine First.
Let's See if i get banned for this.
Aming for â,¬1000.00 a day for seven days Straight.
Bankroll of 10.000 euro.
9 sessions a day.
3 in the morning, 3 in the afternoon and 3 in the Evening.
Session Target is 100 euro.
Once i reach my session Target, i start fresh again.
Progression 2/5
As soon as one of my repeaters hits for the 4th Time, i remove it from my betting list and continue by adding new repeaters and raising the Old ones once hit.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Mar 30, 06:54 AM 2018
I Will try Mine First.
Let's See if i get banned for this.
Aming for â,¬1000.00 a day for seven days Straight.
Bankroll of 10.000 euro.
9 sessions a day.
3 in the morning, 3 in the afternoon and 3 in the Evening.
Session Target is 100 euro.
Once i reach my session Target, i start fresh again.
Progression 2/5
As soon as one of my repeaters hits for the 4th Time, i remove it from my betting list and continue by adding new repeaters and raising the Old ones once hit.
Best of luck, be good to see you succeed
My morning sessions are over.
3 sessions played, 3 sessions won.
+371 euro.
Starting my afternoon session in An hour or so.
jekhb76
would it be possible to post your spins so we can see if the spins go with spins on MPR
Quote from: jekhb76 on Mar 29, 03:13 AM 2018
Forgot one More thing.
... (greed - be careful).
YOU said it.
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 30, 07:33 AM 2018
jekhb76
would it be possible to post your spins so we can see if the spins go with spins on MPR
No problem. Next session i Will post them :thumbsup:
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 30, 07:42 AM 2018
YOU said it.
I don't Have it, Trust me.
Otherwise i would continue even when my session Target of 100 euro was reached, i still would continue but i don't. And i know it won't fail.
notto and jeb.........looks good ......keep it up........
Afternoon Session 1 just ended:
26 Spins.
Session Target: â,¬100,00
Session End Results: +â,¬193,00
Total Balance After 4 Sessions: +â,¬564,00 (5 Sessions to go, to reach â,¬1000,00 today)
I promissed to give the spinnumbers. They were spun from bottom right to the left and up in the photo.
But I also put them here in order for better view
8
8 R1 (2u Bein' Placed)
11
17
10
7
34
31
24
30
33
26
13
19
32
26 R1 (2u Bein' Placed)
11 R1 (2u Bein' Placed) Could have reset here, but wanted to reach 100 euro before resetting, so kept goin')
27
33 R1 (2u Bein' Placed)
16
11 R2 (5u Bein' Placed)
33 R2 (5u Bein' Placed)
36
14
7 R1 (2u Bein' Placed)
11 R3 END
------------ +193 Euro.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Mar 30, 06:54 AM 2018
I Will try Mine First.
Let's See if i get banned for this.
Aming for â,¬1000.00 a day for seven days Straight.
Bankroll of 10.000 euro.
9 sessions a day.
3 in the morning, 3 in the afternoon and 3 in the Evening.
Session Target is 100 euro.
Once i reach my session Target, i start fresh again.
Progression 2/5
As soon as one of my repeaters hits for the 4th Time, i remove it from my betting list and continue by adding new repeaters and raising the Old ones once hit.
Ready to bet an espresso you'll be down -5000 at some point.
Just for fun!
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 30, 10:53 AM 2018
Ready to bet an espresso you'll be down -5000 at some point.
Just for fun!
Sure! I'll take that bet.
I know i won't be down -5000 euro at some point.
But even if it will happen, it doesn't matter anymore. I'm playing with the casino's money now more then 6 months. so every euro earned, is their money that was at risk, not mine.
It's ok, casinos offer free coffee all the time.
1-10 9/10
11-20 7,+2
21-30 ? ? Running as expected 9 non-hit in 16 spins with 14 more spins to come only 6 more to meet the average of 15 in spins 11-40
Afternoon Session 2 just ended:
56 Spins.
Session Target: â,¬100,00
Session End Results: +â,¬125,00
Total Balance After 5 Sessions: +â,¬689,00 (3 Sessions to go, to reach â,¬1000,00 today)
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spin 27 +104
Morts data as in 100 days of Mort
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So its 8/10 now add 15 to the 8 = 23; at spin 40 could/should see 23; checkpoint shows 24; +1 on the 15 non-hits
You see spin 51 you'd be betting 8 remaining non-hit, means 29 non-hits have hit
DSAA what do you make of that , KTF KTF KTF
This is interesting.
Notto, in Jekhb's spins you got a max profit of 519 at spin 50, a low of -334 at spin 39 and a required stash of 460 (low + next bet: 334+ 9*14). That's a ratio of 1.13.
Jekhb, you reached 125 profit. What was the lowest you got to obtain this, and the necessary stash ( low + next bet)?
One way probably has more leverage than the other. For THIS game (might not be true for each and every).
Could start comparing spins/games to 2 or 3 ways of betting and see who's comfortable with which system..
If played the way I described in Add-up test SoftProg in the end,
I would have gotten to 137, min -86, stash 118.
Good Morning Friends.
My first morning session is over.
40 Spins.
Session Target: â,¬100,00
Session End Results: +â,¬129,00
Total Balance from yesterday: +â,¬689,00
â,¬129,00 = + â,¬818,00
25
7
33
19
21
14
23
2
35
33 R1
16
30
33 End (start fresh with last hit number #33)
18
22
18 R1
31
11
10
1
34
24
33 End (start fresh with last hit number #33)
31 R1
17
2 R1
9
29
22 R1
0
33 End (start fresh with last hit number #33)
0 R1
19 R1
28
23 R1
25 R1
23 (I should have ended, but removed only this number and pushed forward with the others)
25 (I should have ended, but removed only this number and pushed forward with the others)
19 end of session + 129,00
Still trying to work out, what the best bet selection is for this method and what money management it's best to use.
so if you caught me trying different things in my sessions, it's just because of that. But my aiming is always +â,¬100,00 per session.
I'm now trying to see if it is possible to profit from removing a hitted number and never bet it again for the entire session.
I know that you miss alot of possible hits, but it's more of crossing of the hit ones, and betting the ones that need to come for the third time. So this way, i'm trying to catch all the possible 3rd ones, and not continue to catch beyond that.
Will test it further in my next session in a few hours.
See ya.
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 30, 09:30 PM 2018
This is interesting.
Notto, in Jekhb's spins you got a max profit of 519 at spin 50, a low of -334 at spin 39 and a required stash of 460 (low + next bet: 334+ 9*14). That's a ratio of 1.13.
Jekhb, you reached 125 profit. What was the lowest you got to obtain this, and the necessary stash ( low + next bet)?
One way probably has more leverage than the other. For THIS game (might not be true for each and every).
Could start comparing spins/games to 2 or 3 ways of betting and see who's comfortable with which system..
Sorry, i don't know anymore. I only record the spins and my session goal. will try to keep track of those things in another session. it is important i know.
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40 spins. what does Mort's numbers say for how many non-hit come on average in spin 11-40 answer 15
I started with the 25
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So 1st 10 gave 9, 9+15=24 at spins 39/40 could see 24 non-hit means the average of 15 gets met
over to you BBB
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even the daft reverse bet that Mr J mocks, "wanker"
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Eddy know off topic heres Mort today +100 spin 26
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Now lets look at reverse idea
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I'll just post next day in 13 follow 31 eddy :thumbsup:
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 31, 04:47 AM 2018
over to you BBB
Bravo Notto, I'm still drowning at spin 40.
Still not certain what the safest way is to win 100 units per session. Is it in repeaters? Is it in non hits?
Sure, i win now with repeaters, but when does it End? Di you guys know what the safest approach is to win 100 units per session?
I was messing around on rs other day had 9 games in a row winning +1,000 u with 3000 br.
I was waiting for a reapeat and playing the 2 numbers that appeared before and after that number appeared the last time it was out.
Example.
22
16
32
8
14
7
34
14 << 1u on 32,8,14,7,34
19
28
19 << 1u on 34,14,19,28,19
..
..
.
Ect
There comes a point when you have 5 + units on a number that has only appeared once... Then it hits 2nd 3rd time for a nice profit.
No joke i went 9 games in a row playing for +1000 sometimes it gave +1800.... Anyway i logged back onto rsim later that evening very excited... Only to have 3 games in a row losing the 3000 bankroll.
Didn't test it anymore. But thought id share that idea with you.
Cheers
What about the following.
Didn't test it, but it came to mind when i was under the shower! :lol:
Spin 0-37
We place a bet of 1u on every repeater that comes for 37 spins.
If a repeater hits for the 3rd time within those 37 spins and we are in profit, we restart.
Spin 37-74
When we have had no hits on our repeaters in our last 37 spins, we take those numbers to our next cycle of 37 spins. (37-74)
Usualy between 10 and 15 numbers (sometimes less).
And we'll be placing 1u on all those repeaters from our last session of spins.
When one of our numbers hit and we're not in profit, we add 1 chip to the hitted number and continue.
We also add every new repeater that comes along (Note: they must be from spin 37-74 - not old numbers from our previous session).
We continue to add chips to numbers that hit and adding repeaters until we are in profit, then restart again.
The reason for this thinking, is that all those repeaters from the first sessions are hot numbers, because they came above average. (not sure if they are still hot, or that they remain hot. Could be cold the moment you start betting on those) but as they have come 2 times in the previous session they are given the change to become tripples in the next session of spins 37-74.
Along the way we are getting more repeaters, but that should't be a problem.
All the repeaters that are still left unhit (1e session repeaters) after 74 spins, will be deleted. This because they aren't showing above avegarge anymore, so they are gone.
We only continue with the repeaters that came now from spins 37-74. they continue to the next cycle of spins 74-111.
so on and on and on. this until we reach first profit and restart.
what's your thought. maybe turbo's way, who knows.
p.s. the repeaters that move forward to the next session get a progression of +1 before the session starts.
When you have had a tripple in a spin cycle, we don't add 3 units to it on the next session, but also 2 just like the rest.
Hope it's clear enough.
Here's an example play.
I should have stopped on spin 68 with a 114 unit profit, but i wanted to continue to spin 74 for testing reasons only. I real i would have stopped on first profit.
My thoughts are, that every repeater must become a tripple within 148 spins when it became a repeater in the first cycle of spins 0-37.
Second test example.
Here i stopped as soon i reached a new high.
Spin 39 (41units profit) Restart.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 01, 06:49 AM 2018
Here's an example play.
I should have stopped on spin 68 with a 114 unit profit, but i wanted to continue to spin 74 for testing reasons only. I real i would have stopped on first profit.
My thoughts are, that every repeater must become a tripple within 148 spins when it became a repeater in the first cycle of spins 0-37.
I ment, that Most repeaters that were born in the First cycle of spins 0-37 Have a High change to become a tripple or higher before spin 74.
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What the non-hit should do being the larger group :thumbsup:
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Turbo on GF
The progression isn't terribly important - you can customize it to your liking.
As long as it is aggressive and not a simple 1,2,3,4 style. It's used to amplify
winnings, not to dig out of a hole as a negative progression would do.
The above Eddy the slow 1,2,3,4,5,
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Should i stay or should i go :question:
Just the 4 hottest
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Time to go
Nah
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Was getting deeper and deeper 1,5,25 on BR of 1000 to aggressive
So the slow 1,2,3,4,5 was better than the 1,5,25
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 01, 05:59 PM 2018
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Was getting deeper and deeper 1,5,25 on BR of 1000 to aggressive
maybe an 1/3/9