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Title: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 12, 05:31 AM 2018
I was speaking with a colleague who has lost a lot of money betting one champions league matches the last two days.

He bet on
1 draw ( Liverpool vs man city)
2 Barcelona win (Barcelona vs Roma)
3 Real Madrid win (Real Madrid vs Juventus)
4 Bayern Munich win (Bayern Munich vs Sevilla )


What a disaster ! Well logically his bets seem fine but he is now down !
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: Steve on Apr 12, 06:35 AM 2018
Sports betting is simply you vs everyone else with the bookie taking a cut. Focus on value bets.
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: psimoes on Apr 12, 07:06 AM 2018
Flat bet on the underdogs.
Who would have guessed liverpool defeated by the swans, right after defeating "citeh"
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 12, 07:27 AM 2018
Well, it's complicated, shitty and sometimes can get nasty too !
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 12, 07:58 AM 2018
Quote from: psimoes on Apr 12, 07:06 AM 2018

Flat bet on the underdogs.
Who would have guessed liverpool defeated by the swans, right after defeating "citeh"



It is not too surprising.

Juergen Klopp's teams have been known to do that -- going from the highest point one week to the lowest point the following week.

It has something to do with his emotionally hyper-charged managing style -- he cannot keep his team motivated at the same intense level every week, especially when he faces a very strong team one week and a very weak team the following week.

This bipolar behavior is a fundamental nature of his style of football -- or what he calls, " heavy metal football." It can get both emotionally and physically exhausting for both him and his players.
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 12, 08:05 AM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 12, 05:31 AM 2018
I was speaking with a colleague who has lost a lot of money betting one champions league matches the last two days.

He bet on
1 draw ( Liverpool vs man city)
2 Barcelona win (Barcelona vs Roma)
3 Real Madrid win (Real Madrid vs Juventus)
4 Bayern Munich win (Bayern Munich vs Sevilla )


What a disaster ! Well logically his bets seem fine but he is now down !


Upsets happen in all sports, including football.

You cannot say that football betting sucks just because of a group of results one particular week.

You have to take a holistic perspective when you do such an evaluation -- that is, you have to look at the results over an entire season of betting.

If you make bets based on facts and rational thinking, more often than not, you will enjoy a decent degree of success in this endeavor (more so than in betting on games of chance, like roulette).
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: cht on Apr 12, 08:22 AM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 12, 05:31 AM 2018
I was speaking with a colleague who has lost a lot of money betting one champions league matches the last two days.

He bet on
1 draw ( Liverpool vs man city)
2 Barcelona win (Barcelona vs Roma)
3 Real Madrid win (Real Madrid vs Juventus)
4 Bayern Munich win (Bayern Munich vs Sevilla )


What a disaster ! Well logically his bets seem fine but he is now down !
Your colleague got sold on the media hype. City tiki taka football are over-rated while Barcelona needs to rejuvenate their ageing squad.

City's loss is predictable on the back of a come from behind defeat by United. They are likely to lose to Spurs this weekend capping a 4 defeat rout.

Roma, like Juventus, expectedly adopted an offensive setup to press high for a quick goal from the long ball. Roma bagged the goals. So did Juventus, too bad they conceeded the late penalty.

RM and Bayern bet for win not wise when both teams are likely to sit back to defend their 1st leg lead.

Favourites to win CL -
1. Real Madrid
2. Bayern Munich
3. Roma(replace Barca)
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: psimoes on Apr 12, 08:44 AM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 12, 07:27 AM 2018
Well, it's complicated, shitty and sometimes can get nasty too !
sounds like primeira liga no doubt. Absolute shame.

Anyway read on about the odds in fb betting. Theyre much higher tham roulette so dont take my advice  like its the hg. Theres none.

Good luck
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: psimoes on Apr 12, 08:53 AM 2018
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 12, 07:58 AM 2018

It is not too surprising.

Juergen Klopp's teams have been known to do that -- going from the highest point one week to the lowest point the following week.

It has something to do with his emotionally hyper-charged managing style -- he cannot keep his team motivated at the same intense level every week, especially when he faces a very strong team one week and a very weak team the following week.

This bipolar behavior is a fundamental nature of his style of football -- or what he calls, " heavy metal football." It can get both emotionally and physically exhausting for both him and his players.
Yeah that mo salah is one hell of a lead singer. Another image that comes to mind rather obvious is blitzkrieg. Aaaaaannnd an f1 car stuck in london traffic at 4pm hahaa
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: psimoes on Apr 12, 08:59 AM 2018
Still doc, would you have put your money on swan city?
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 12, 12:10 PM 2018
Quote from: psimoes on Apr 12, 08:59 AM 2018

Still doc, would you have put your money on swan city?



No, of course not.

That was an upset -- and such upsets are simply unavoidable, even when they happen in groups, like they did this week.

You would have to financially and psychologically absorb them when they come.

If you cannot, then sports betting is not for you.

Might as well stick to roulette.  >:D   >:D
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: psimoes on Apr 12, 01:49 PM 2018
Well said doc  :thumbsup:

You know, I keep thinking those upsets happen too rarely for one to take a steady advantage from. And on the other hand, the same upsets occur frequently enough to destroy whatever profit one might get from playing the "safer" bets...
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 13, 01:26 PM 2018
Only solid way to win in football and other sports is through arbing...soon get banned though ..but ways around it is paying people good money to open accounts with there id...

Lots of sites that can do it all automatically like rebel betting etc
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 13, 01:53 PM 2018
Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 13, 01:26 PM 2018
Only solid way to win in football and other sports is through arbing...soon get banned though ..but ways around it is paying people good money to open accounts with there id...

Lots of sites that can do it all automatically like rebel betting etc

Two years ago I bought RebelBetting software it costed me 700 euro, unfortunately it wasn't worth the money because most of the bookies where I live impose 5% commission, add to that they limit your bets quickly and a lot of of international bookies don't accept customers from
Other countries so in conclusion it ended with 0 profit and a lot of efforts
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 13, 02:08 PM 2018
Pretty good for the uk here though...money is really only made by big bets as you know yourself you only get a guaranteed percent...
That’s why you bet big before limited and need other accounts
If you were restricted by sports books to place money why on earth did you invest in rebel betting software?
Only hard work when you are making 3 or 4 percent on low stakes

Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 13, 04:09 PM 2018
Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 13, 02:08 PM 2018
Pretty good for the uk here though...money is really only made by big bets as you know yourself you only get a guaranteed percent...
That’s why you bet big before limited and need other accounts
If you were restricted by sports books to place money why on earth did you invest in rebel betting software?
Only hard work when you are making 3 or 4 percent on low stakes

The 5% Commission killed the arbitrage for me ... local bookies charges 5% commission and just a few foreign bookies accept international players.

Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: moles40 on Apr 14, 11:01 AM 2018
Back the underdog or back a team losing at half time ,enough come back to make a profit
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: Nimo on Apr 15, 03:21 PM 2018
link:s://unanimous.ai/epl-week-34-2018/

EPL Picks, Week 34      
4/13/2018      
Best bets      
Match   Swarm pick   Bet
West Brom @Man United   Man United (by 2+)*   $100
Bournemouth @Liverpool   Liverpool (by 2+)   $80
      
Proceed with caution      
Match   Swarm pick   Bet
Chelsea @Southampton   Chelsea (by 1)   $60
Stoke City @West Ham    West Ham (by 1)   $57
Arsenal @Newcastle   Arsenal (by 1)   $50
      
High risk plays      
Match   Swarm pick   Bet
Everton @Swansea City   Everton (by 1)   $31
Leicester City @Burnley FC   Burnley FC (by 1)   $29
Brighton @Crystal Palace   Tie   $27
Man. City @Tottenham   Man. City (by 1)   $20
Watford @Huddersfield   Watford wins   $0
      
   *Swarm's pick of the week   
      

Artificial Intelligence Beehive picks, Had great success with their College Basketball picks, Not sure how they are doing with EPL
Title: Re: Football betting is shitty and probably worst than roulette ?
Post by: psimoes on Apr 16, 06:38 AM 2018
Looks like another upset has happened. Congrats to the citizens.