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Title: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 30, 07:33 PM 2018
Test Session 1:

1000 Spins
4.735 Profit
Biggest Drawdown: -135 Units

Procedure:
track until you find the first repeater, bet on it. Continue this until you have a max of 3 repeaters.
Everytime a repeater hits, raise it. when you have say a number with 4 hits and two with 3 hits, the only time the three hits can be replaced is once you get another 4 hit.

Not sure if this is the best way how to play Hotties, but by the looks at my graph it was a nice first test.
Cheers, and sleep well.
Eddy
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: Winner on Apr 30, 10:18 PM 2018
Nice one.
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 08:14 AM 2018
HOT 'N' COLD
Session 2
Total spins played: 373
Bankroll: 1000 units.
Lowest Balance: -742 at spin 256
Highest Balance: +3084 at spin 373
End Balance: +3084 units.

Playstyle:
Well don't think anyone would play it like me  :wink:

Extra:
If someone would like the spreadsheet (blanco) to easy track hotties at home or at their local casino (it is adjusted for printing) then please let me know and i would be happy to provide it to anyone who thinks it would be helpful.
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: Bigbroben on May 01, 09:16 AM 2018
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 30, 07:33 PM 2018

Everytime a repeater hits, raise it. when you have say a number with 4 hits and two with 3 hits, the only time the three hits can be replaced is once you get another 4 hit.



So max 3 nrs, do you rarely replace the nrs you bet on?  Reset at new high or you let it roll?  Do you discard nr after hit 4 times?
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 10:09 AM 2018
Quote from: Bigbroben on May 01, 09:16 AM 2018
So max 3 nrs, do you rarely replace the nrs you bet on?  Reset at new high or you let it roll?  Do you discard nr after hit 4 times?
Well if i told you how i played last session (session 2) you would probably laugh  :xd:
I'm working on Hot numbers for some Time now. I don't care what others say about HN but i personaly think it has great profit potential.
And you don't Have to bring a huge bankroll to play it. The only downside is that you need to either track or play a Long time before true profits Will show. The dnager when playing a method like this is that you need great dicapline to play all the way up to spin 200-300. Usualy 300 spins Will take around 8 hours in a BM casino, so not for everybody and not for daily play.
But for one or two times a week it could bring a good income. If you play it the Right way . Now here where the problems begin; what is the best way to play Hotties and to make sure you Always profit around spin 300?
I've done quite some tests the last couple of year and there is one problem that keeps returning everytime i play this method. And that is the best spin Gap when a number is bet upon.
You Will See that when you Have 1-3 Hot numbers Walk out on the rest, usualy above spin 125-175, the other numbers try to match up, they Always do. Even a very Hot numbers with +8 on it at spin 180 could Sleep after that for 50-60 spins before it is hit again.

In the above session (2) i played every repeater that showed. Once a number got hit, i would remove that number and continue with the rest. Everytime An Old repeater would return, i Will place a higher chip on it and continue with the rest. When that higher number would hit again, i Will remove it again, and again and again.with everytime a higher chip. Usual the same amount as the number has showed. This to prevent that when a Hot number Goes to sleep after it was hit again, we are not betting on it. But i can't get it to work as great as i would.
But it showed profit everytime after a downworth spinflow occourd. Still work in process.
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 10:40 AM 2018
In the past i would bet on one number at a Time once a Hot number showed himself. With in mind that i would need atleast 9 hits on that one number   in 300 spins to break even. So i Always tried to reach 10 hits on one number, so that i would Always profit from it at the End of the day. But this is the Most boring playstyle there is and it is not Always certan that you Will Have 10 hits in 300 spins. It all depends on making the Right choices.
Then begin on working with two numbers with in mind that i needed 20 hits in Total on those two numbers. Somehow this worked a little better. Because now i could aim for the two hottest once instead of one. Remember it's All about flatbetting what i am talking about, at this stage No progression was used. Because i knew that a progression is only good once a method works with flatbet also otherwise your bankroll Will blowup faster and faster.
Then i would look at Max 3 numbers, needed 30 hits in Total , is worked even better then two numbers, because i was Right More often wich numbers were Hot and not. Then i tried 4 numbers, for some reason 4 numbers didn't do as well as when i would be betting with three numbers.
So i stayed for a few months trying to solve the hottie problem with Max 3 numbers. The way i played it Back then, was whenever a number would repeat in 37 spins i would bet on it with a Max of 3#. When i had 3 numbers in play and a new repeater would show up, i would look at the oldest repeater and replaced it with the newest one. Anytime a #would hit and it didn't show profit, i would raise 1 unit on it and kept the rest the same. Etc. It worked alot better, but it crashed also. Now i'm trying to solve the Gap problem. Any idea's guys?
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: denzie on May 01, 12:40 PM 2018
Quote from: PassionRuleta on May 01, 12:24 PM 2018
I gave you several ideas but you have not read my comment, hehehe.
Take the repeated that there are in 24 balls and play with the progression 1-3-9, as soon as you have a benefit leave those repeated and take the repeated ones that there are in the last 24 balls and play till have another benefit and so on ... You will see how long you always want, because you always catch the new hot ...
Another option take all the repeated up to 37 balls and play with them with the progression 1-3-9 until the 74 ball and eliminate those that follow 2 and take and play all 3 with the progression until the 111 ball.
If you have a good profit on the 74 ball or before it returns to restart but continues until the 111 with those of 3 or more with the progression, but a number that has 9 chips does not go up to more chips, it remains with 9.
You will always have before the 74 ball or before the 111 benefits.
If you do not realize what happens, look at the law of radioactive decay and you will see what it explains.
Anything you tell me and tell me if it is true that I know what Turbo does or not, that I already told you.


Ssssshhhttt
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 12:43 PM 2018
I Just had a private conversation with someone on this Forum and he told me that if i would like to play this way, i needed to put a Max. Gap of 22 spins on the hitted numbers. He told me that when a number is super Hot, it wil hit again in that spin Window. When a Hot number turns to average again it would go past 22 spins and you lose alot on those numbers more when you would Have alot of chips on them.
The only problem that comes with it, is that we need to track All indu numbers  at a Different 22 window.....mmmm
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 12:49 PM 2018
A normal hot number will hit from 14 to 30 times in 300 spins. Approximately 10 to 12 numbers will hit more than 8 times with half of them being in the 12 to 14 range.
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 12:52 PM 2018
The problem that remains is deteting the Right ones. A Hot numbers can turn to cold once you start playing them and it can for 150+ if unlucky.
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: denzie on May 01, 01:13 PM 2018
Quote from: jekhb76 on May 01, 12:49 PM 2018
A normal hot number will hit from 14 to 30 times in 300 spins. Approximately 10 to 12 numbers will hit more than 8 times with half of them being in the 12 to 14 range.

With this info.....you can cut down a lot of # .... start at 8s  ;)
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: Bigbroben on May 01, 01:13 PM 2018
Quote from: jekhb76 on May 01, 12:43 PM 2018
I Just had a private conversation with someone on this Forum and he told me that if i would like to play this way, i needed to put a Max. Gap of 22 spins on the hitted numbers. He told me that when a number is super Hot, it wil hit again in that spin Window. When a Hot number turns to average again it would go past 22 spins and you lose alot on those numbers more when you would Have alot of chips on them.
The only problem that comes with it, is that we need to track All indu numbers  at a Different 22 window.....mmmm
Makes some sense... 22 as average or fixed gap? I'd opt for an adaptive gap, or a max chips total on table.
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 01:14 PM 2018
Some would say; why don't u Just track and bet the Most hit 3 ones? Well that's not An East task. Because i know from Experience that cold and average numbers do try to match up over time and above spin 250 it can be a real struggle to keep playing the Right numbers. You can't just say that when a number stands above the rest at spin 150 that it will Keep Standing above everybody. It is fluctuating All the Time. Sure you Will Have a lot less numbers to bet on, and there must be 1 or two that are performing Just like you wish, but not Always. And the sessions can be very, very long. Even More when you need to play 8 to 10 hours in a bm casino, it won't be everyone's Cup of thee.
So my sugestion is, that as soon you Have reached a Decent profit, decide to continue or to go home. Remember, there Will Always be a tomorrow.
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 01:21 PM 2018
Quote from: Bigbroben on May 01, 01:13 PM 2018
Makes some sense... 22 as average or fixed gap? I'd opt for an adaptive gap, or a max chips total on table.
He said a fixed cap. Those that perform as super Hot stay super Hot. Those Who are performing as Hot can go to average. And those Who are playing average hit can get real cold. He said, it's All about MM. Look for a way to win this Battle flatbet, if i succes i can win the War with a good MM progression. And i needed to play at least 100 sessions of 300 spins, to See how flatbet is Holding and i could also See what the Gap of Max. 22 spins works. He said that if this is done Right, there is No way it can lose , but the way to a HG in this method is not An East task, and it could take years to find it. But the only we to find it, is to observe alot of spin sessions and test, test, test,test. Smart Guy. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: fossell on May 01, 02:04 PM 2018
You know what Jek. Considering you had almost given up not long ago (and I know that feeling!), you're one of the only people really studying for yourself and testing things on this. Your relentless, and for that I applaud you 👏  :thumbsup:
I've read some bits in a few of the recent threads and you're saying some smart things that make sense. And a couple of others are posting some good advice too.
I don't claim to know how to win consistently but some of things that have been said in a couple of these threads are the basis of how I play too. There have been a couple of claims to HG's recently both new and old, but Turbo is still the only person I've seen prove consistent wining results. I can't achieve that consistency yet. I might not need to. But I'll alway be looking to get closer.
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 02:22 PM 2018
Quote from: fossell on May 01, 02:04 PM 2018
You know what Jek. Considering you had almost given up not long ago (and I know that feeling!), you're one of the only people really studying for yourself and testing things on this. Your relentless, and for that I applaud you 👏  :thumbsup:
I've read some bits in a few of the recent threads and you're saying some smart things that make sense. And a couple of others are posting some good advice too.
I don't claim to know how to win consistently but some of things that have been said in a couple of these threads are the basis of how I play too. There have been a couple of claims to HG's recently both new and old, but Turbo is still the only person I've seen prove consistent wining results. I can't achieve that consistency yet. I might not need to. But I'll alway be looking to get closer.
Thanks  :thumbsup:
Yes i had almost given up, but the reason why i continued the search, is when i was about to give up i found a little puzzle peace that i was Missing.
My roulette puzzle has 3000 pieces, and i only Have a few hundred pieces found, but i learned to never give up but to continue testing and failure is Just a part of it. A wise men once said; You wil never find the awnser, if you never even tried to search for the awnser in the First place! So the search continues, and with that mind set, i'm possitive i Will find my own HG. It's Just a Matter of Time and Time is irrelevant. Could be tomorrow, could be next year or over 10 years, but i'm More certain then ever. I Just need to keep goin' and along the way i Will find More Missing pieces to my puzzle.
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: denzie on May 01, 02:26 PM 2018
Quote from: fossell on May 01, 02:04 PM 2018
I don't claim to know how to win consistently but some of things that have been said in a couple of these threads are the basis of how I play too. There have been a couple of claims to HG's recently both new and old, but Turbo is still the only person I've seen prove consistent wining results. I can't achieve that consistency yet. I might not need to. But I'll alway be looking to get closer.

You did pretty damn good at Parx though  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 02:29 PM 2018
Quote from: denzie on May 01, 01:13 PM 2018
With this info.....you can cut down a lot of # .... start at 8s  ;)
I did, but also that won't Grand succes everytime. And when we play so many spins in the First place, we need to profit from it as much as we can, otherwise it will be a very long and frustrations sit at the casino Table.
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: fossell on May 01, 02:39 PM 2018
Quote from: denzie on May 01, 02:26 PM 2018You did pretty damn good at Parx though 
True that :)
But as long as it took I was never 100% on what exactly I was doing right or how to make it more consistent than it was.
You played there for a bit didn't you?
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 04:56 PM 2018
HOT 'N' COLD
Session 3
ONLY FLATBET - 1 UNIT BETS ONLY. (Progression is Taboo  O0)
Total spins played: 100
Bankroll: 1000 units.
Lowest Balance: -24 at spin 26
Highest Balance: +316 at spin 73
100/300 Spin Balance: +223 units.

No you can decide what you want to do, continue or go home? two simple questions really.
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 02, 04:57 PM 2018
Last night in bed, i was thinking about what i said earlier about hot number betting within 300 spins 8-10 hours at the casino daily for 5 times a week  :-\ I knew that i had to make 10 hits at spin 300 with 1 unit / 1 number. but making â,¬50 a day for 8 hours work ain't worth it. You must consider if the profit that you can make is worth the time that you play. well i thouht that there must be an easier and a less boring method i could use, to make this happen. taken in mind the same wingoal 20% of my bankroll. so i would make â,¬60 and then go home, but 8 hours!! man.
This morning i was looking at some of my many sheets (i keep everything, every session, every loss and every winning one) and i saw on crazy thing, well maybe not crazy, but something that could be useful when playing like i do.

I saw that there were many times within a certain amount of spins that a whole street (3 numbers) fall in a 12 spin window.
And that sometime even 2 or three, and on an odd occasion 4 complete streets would happen. but 1-2 full streets came very often in a 12 spin window.
for example:

1 (belongs to street 1)
8
4
3 (belongs to street 1) We bet 1 unit on #2)
6
19 (belongs to street 7)
20 (belongs to street 7) We bet 1 unit on #21)
32
2 (belongs to street 1) HIT Street complete
35
21 (belongs to street 7) HIT Street complete
3

So that got me thinking. we track last 12 spins. Whenever in those 12 spins 2/3 numbers from a street came, we would bet on the missing number from that street. we do this with every street, as long as it is in the last 12 spins.
Once one of the 2 numbers falls off the 12 spin window, we remove the bet on the missing number.
You will see that within a timeframe of 100 spins you will get a few good early hits. and the best thing about this method is that you don't bet every spin. There are times that you don't have a betting option. no bets please (unit savings!!!)

i tested it tonight, flatbet ofcourse.
Took 500 euro with me, where i would play with a bank of 300 (200 for trouble moments after 300 spins)
took me less then 2 hours to reach my daily goal of 20%.
Profit of â,¬112 euro in 102 spins !

So that was a good working day with not too long hour shifts!
What i also do, and is maybe a good advice, is when you have reached your daily goal and your a little above it.
Take your bank and your %20 profit and put it in your wallet, but play a few spins more with the little extra you have just won!.
You may never know if you get lucky and win some more. if you lose, well no harm done, you have your %20 and go home happy.
I did also, won another 52 euro above my 60 euro goal.!
some good advice, is never wrong to give.
Take care and be safe.
cheers.
Ed
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: jekhb76 on May 02, 05:40 PM 2018
Look at these numbers from spielbank wiesbaden from yesterday, see if you would have had a good day at the casino using my method.

Spielbank Wiesbaden Permanenzen

Eine Veröffentlichung oder Ver-
vielfältigung ohne schriftliche
Genehmigung dieser Daten ist
nicht gestattet.

Tisch:                       Tisch 1
Datum:               2018-05-01

********* Gewinnzahlen ********
N  Z  R
      25 
29       
      30 
33       
29       
13       
      21 
      34 
      23 
      14 
6       
33       
      36 
11       
13       
      30 
       5 
      18 
15       
    0     
22       
11       
11       
33       
      12 
      32 
10       
      18 
       7 
24       
24       
      25 
31       
2       
-- -- -- 
22       
31       
      14 
6       
       5 
      34 
28       
       9 
4       
      14 
      25  Bonus: doppelte Auszahlung
22       
       3 
      16 
15       
26       
      12 
       5 
      27 
       7 
      27 
-- -- -- 
2       
    0     
2       
      12 
      19 
29       
       9 
      12 
      32 
      34 
8       
      23 
24       
       5 
      30 
29       
-- -- -- 
      12 
10       
4       
26       
      19 
       5 
33       
      18 
29       
35       
4       
-- -- -- 
28       
26       
31       
      36 
4       
      12 
-- -- -- 
      12 
35       
28       
       9 
      34 
-- -- -- 
    0     
      32 
       5 
29       
10       
17       
28       
15       
      36 
22       
      34 
28       
35       
35       
      36 
       3 
28       
       1 
-- -- -- 
2       
10       
4       
      27 
33       
29       
      18 
      25 
17       
11       
8       
-- -- -- 
      32 
      32 
      21 
    0     
      25 
      30 
13       
       5 
      23 
      32 
      23 
22       
      34 
28       
20       
    0     
31       
26       
-- -- -- 
6       
       9 
      34 
33       
26       
29       
      34 
      18 
      25 
15       
8       
-- -- -- 
17       
22       
       3 
15       
      23 
33       
      14 
13       
4       
31       
      27 
17       
-- -- -- 
      25 
31       
35       
       5 
26       
15       
      30 
      30 
31       
       7 
-- -- -- 
26       
      19 
       1 
       7 
      19 
11       
      30 
      18 
       1 
31       
28       
      32 
22       
28       
      19 
      27 
      32 
4       
-- -- -- 
33       
    0     
11       
       5 
      19 
2       
       1 
29       
      25 
4       
26       
35       
       3 
35       
13       
-- -- -- 
33       
      19 
24       
      18 
      30 
      27 
15       
Title: Re: HOT 'N' COLD
Post by: nottophammer on May 02, 06:23 PM 2018
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KTF  :thumbsup:

If going for repeats only; +217

And thats not listening to RB shite :xd: :xd: :xd: