That's how I'd use a grail for sure, I'd sit and manipulate virtual reward credits.
I wouldn't go to B&M, daily, and use it for actual earnings, no, why would I do that...
Either it works or it doesn't, if it works, and you were in his shoes, and you have access to real play, why wouldn't you? Genuinely curious, because for me, I would pull a Vaddis and disappear the second I got it...after PMing those close to me or who had helped along the way how to do it.
Other than that, I'd be a ghost, haunting B&M.
Quote from: Mako on Jul 17, 04:41 PM 2018
That's how I'd use a grail for sure, I'd sit and manipulate virtual reward credits.
I wouldn't go to B&M, daily, and use it for actual earnings, no, why would I do that...
Either it works or it doesn't, if it works, and you were in his shoes, and you have access to real play, why wouldn't you? Genuinely curious, because for me, I would pull a Vaddis and disappear the second I got it...after PMing those close to me or who had helped along the way how to do it.
Other than that, I'd be a ghost, haunting B&M.
Good question -- you know what makes it so remarkable is that this genius in question, by his own admission, lives in one of the biggest gambling centers in the country:
Atlantic City, NJ.He is literally surrounded by B&M casinos all within a driving distance.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 17, 05:15 PM 2018
Good question -- you know what makes it so remarkable is that this genius in question, by his own admission, lives in one of the biggest gambling centers in the country: Atlantic City, NJ.
He is literally surrounded by B&M casinos all within a driving distance.
Here is his profile confirming his location:
link:s://betselection.cc/profile/TurboGenius/
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=profile;u=6974
He will probably remove his location information now.
Yeah Doc, it makes no sense other than the obvious which is "it doesn't work". But I've heard from others who have his exact method that it does have success if it's used while dancing between raindrops via hit-and-run, and they're doing well with it so far.
Who knows, but it's not what I would do. It's only money, go play! :twisted:
King of words and manipulation. He has created his own little universe and gets a kick out of internet roulette worshippers of some sort. He is a person that thinks rather highly of himself, borderline narcissistic.
When getting confronted he backs down and hides in his little safe shell. Finding excuses. A true winner and a real man would take the challenge. Such a genius can easily take a challenge in safe surroundings to prove his point. Indeed, wouldnt stick on Parx to prove his fanboys that he has a HG and raping parx. If he has the HG after so many years now he would be the next Richard Branson.
Genius airlines or Genius records whatever.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 17, 08:48 PM 2018
Do you really know what turbo does? because it's a very good way to win, I assure you.
Only with what he says about the progressions, how to use a progression well, how to select the betting numbers and the tests I have done, always cutting at a profit and starting a new session, his game is very good, I I assure you, but according to the card that you play, you need a lot of capital for heavy falls, but you always end up winning.
I think you figured it out Sergio, the truth is that Turbo DOES believe he has a grail. He would pass a lie detector test on it, I'm certain.
But his version of the grail requires a balls-shrinking third stage progression, sometimes on several numbers, which is a heavy outlay of bankroll. And he's likely stuck at that road of paralysis.
I remember jekhb saying he had a grail on the R30 board. He was taking questions, offering clues how to do it, etc. He was very excited, and acted like he was Vaddis, the guru, the unlocker of the grail. He was loving all the attention.
So he decided he was ready, and went to the casino to play it live that first time with a full bankroll, big units. He was ready for the winnings to roll in.
Busted out to zero that very first session.
Unlike Turbo, jekhb had the courage to admit the defeat. And he had the balls to actually put it into real-play action. Both deserve praise.
Maybe Turbo isn't there yet, after so many years, over a decade actually, of full misses.
If he does finally have a grail, maybe he just isn't confident enough after so many beatings...SO many beatings...to actually play it...beyond Parx funny-money. You get hit enough in the ring, you don't want to box anymore...even if you're a stud in sparring sessions.
Get a life. Move on.
Quote from: Mako on Jul 17, 09:46 PM 2018I remember jekhb saying he had a grail on the R30 board. He was taking questions, offering clues how to do it, etc. He was very excited, and acted like he was Vaddis, the guru, the unlocker of the grail. He was loving all the attention.
So he decided he was ready, and went to the casino to play it live that first time with a full bankroll, big units. He was ready for the winnings to roll in.
Busted out to zero that very first session.
We've all been there before. Ive had many HGs in the past.
Quote from: Mako on Jul 17, 09:46 PM 2018jekhb had the courage to admit the defeat
Yes honesty takes more balls, and its the right thing to do
Quote from: Mako on Jul 17, 09:46 PM 2018If he does finally have a grail, maybe he just isn't confident enough after so many beatings...SO many beatings...to actually play it.
After all this time, he would know if his system is or isnt the hg. He spends an awful lot of time winning fun money to convince people he has the hg. And the results were very different on mpr. It has all been said before.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 18, 03:21 AM 2018
What did jekh do not have to be Turbo, because if he loses jekh he is associated with Turbo? He could have found something that Turbo is not really.
I know how Turbo works and it's very easy and all the sessions I did in the past (many) all end up winning, playing with a less aggressive progression 1-3-9 / 1-3-9-27.
Bigbroben raised some very good statistics on repeated where it indicates the numbers that it takes to hunt the next level of repetition and there is seen how to play a quantity of 4-5 numbers is the key to play at the TURBO, the problem is in Turbo has several ways to make his game and people took the worst graph to decipher, where he says it's another way to hunt repetitions, but it's not the most correct way, so they trusted it and lost, I'm even Surely they do not know how to take control and Turbo also said it.
Turbo said almost everything in the gambling forum topics and here.
He knows what he does and I assure you that he wins and only to see the section of progressions that he explains and the other of what he plays and because it is enough to understand that what he says is totally true.
Would it be like this ?
But hold on a bit, isn’t it because turbo runs a forum, so Steve sees him as a competitor ?
I never knew turbo has a forum untill today. Anyway I Personally don’t believe neither turbo nor Steve that they have the HG simply because if they have it, they wouldn’t have opened forums.
This never ending debate smells like shit !
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jul 18, 03:50 AM 2018
But hold on a bit, isn’t it because turbo runs a forum, so Steve sees him as a competitor ?
I never knew turbo has a forum untill today. Anyway I Personally don’t believe neither turbo nor Steve that they have the HG simply because if they have it, they wouldn’t have opened forums.
This never ending debate smells like shit !
Steve is coming in here to talk shit on your comment.
Probably my last post on this forum.
To all who are searching, there are 2 threads where the OP shared winning methods/strategies.
The key word is winning.
You know where to find them.
Some of you are already on the trail.
You have to believe.
You have to do the hard work.
PassionRuleta is shit !
Juniorscissorshand is your guy. :thumbsup:
Read his posts for the missing part - not much to go on.
That's all you got. Be nice to him he might give you more.
The other guys who know are no more active.
Everything else is bs.
Take care and best wishes to all.
CHT signing out for the last time
Quote from: cht on Jul 18, 05:05 AM 2018
CHT signing out for the last time
Why? We don’t want you to get buried in Singapore casinos
Rb i never said i had the hg. I cannot beat rng.
Turbo a competitor? Umm, no. Not even a remote consideration. I made my reasons for addressing his claims clear. Is it really so hard to believe I'm interested in the truth for the benefit of members?
Bye cht. Hopefully your lesson isn't too costly. :thumbsup:
Take rng out of your vocabulary
It isn’t roulette
Correct, its a slot machine.
Steve, I have to disagree with you there. In slot machines the casinos don't have any obligation to tell you what the odds and payouts are, and they are programmable, although there usually has to be a minimum payout, which depends on the jurisdiction. By contrast, RNG roulette is supposed to be a model of real roulette and as such the payouts are fixed for each location (and the casino has to tell you what they are).
If you believe that the roulette RNG is fixed or the payouts are being manipulated you can confront the casino with the evidence for this in terms of stats which are statistically very unlikely, but with a slot machine it would be pointless to complain you're being cheated because the payouts and probabilities aren't known, and can change.
Doubtless there are some bent casinos where RNG roulette odds are manipulated, but that's not the same as saying that in general roulette is like a slot machine.
If the game outcomes are random then you already know the odds and payouts. From that point, its the same as a slot machine. Its more a matter of expectation.
Quote from: Joe on Jul 18, 08:25 AM 2018the casinos don't have any obligation to tell you what the odds and payouts are
They adhere to regulations that stipulate payouts. Of course it varies between jurisdictions but this is how it is for every jurisdiction I've looked at
Quote from: Joe on Jul 18, 08:25 AM 2018
Steve, I have to disagree with you there. In slot machines the casinos don't have any obligation to tell you what the odds and payouts are, and they are programmable, although there usually has to be a minimum payout, which depends on the jurisdiction. By contrast, RNG roulette is supposed to be a model of real roulette and as such the payouts are fixed for each location (and the casino has to tell you what they are).
If you believe that the roulette RNG is fixed or the payouts are being manipulated you can confront the casino with the evidence for this in terms of stats which are statistically very unlikely, but with a slot machine it would be pointless to complain you're being cheated because the payouts and probabilities aren't known, and can change.
Doubtless there are some bent casinos where RNG roulette odds are manipulated, but that's not the same as saying that in general roulette is like a slot machine.
Joe ? Are you the joecoder ?
Listen, RNG is a predifined algorithm with a seed that keeps changing the generated numbers so they look like random, in fact they aren’t 100% random!
In addition to that, in RNG there is no cause effect, while a physical wheel can steer numbers that are located on Same sector.
Quote from: Steve on Jul 18, 08:29 AM 2018If the game outcomes are random then you already know the odds and payouts. From that point, its the same as a slot machine. Its more a matter of expectation.
How would you know the odds and payouts for slots? If I play roulette I can select the bets according to the payouts and the risk I want to take, but in slots I can't do that. It's just mindlessly pulling a lever and I have no control over anything. If I choose to bet on a single number I know the odds (payouts) don't change as compared with betting on an even chance, but the probabilities do.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jul 18, 08:34 AM 2018Listen, RNG is a predifined algorithm with a seed that keeps changing the generated numbers so they look like random, in fact they aren’t 100% random!
I know that. What's your point? It doesn't mean RNG roulette is like a slot machine for reasons I've already explained.
And how would you know whether anything is 100% random? ;-)
Quote from: Joe on Jul 18, 08:40 AM 2018
I know that. What's your point? It doesn't mean RNG roulette is like a slot machine for reasons I've already explained.
And how would you know whether anything is 100% random? ;-)
Come on joe! You are supposed to be smart as your name “joecoder†:)
Rng don’t generate random because they use static seed which can be captured. In other words you can replicate the outputs if you smart enough! :xd: