I am testing lots of spins just to see what CAN happen, when in REALITY I would only play it for several minutes
Method I am testing?
Bet all lines EXCEPT the line that hit 5 spins ago....stupid idea? of course...but lets see how it went
again, this would be a few spin deal, not sitting there for an hour begging for the house to take me
50 spins (not 50 results because I start after 5 results)
flat bet
W (on zero, insurance chip on zero)
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38 wins (including zero-have not decided chip size for that yet, but it isn't a loss, zero would be minimum +1)
5 losses
+38
-25
Total: +13
50 spin test, test 2...keep in mind obviously no bet when 5 spins back was 0
this was a nice run...even though it was only +4 units it likely would have been MUCH more because 4 of the wins were on ZERO
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34 WINS (4 ON ZERO)
6 LOSSES
+34 units (havent decided on zero yet)
-30 units
+4 units
Nice RG, you're doing a lot of brainstorming and experimenting lately, thanks for the effort.
Test 3 of flat betting all lines except the line hit 5 spins ago
another 50 live wheel spins
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38 WINS
2 LOSSES
5 of those wins were on the insurance of 0/00.....not sure on unit spread yet....so FOR NOW will count those as +1 however it would be more
+38
-10
+28 units
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+45 units in 150 live wheel spins
FLAT BET 5 LINES ONLY NO PROGRESSION
I will name it the flapjack method without syrup
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36 WINS
9 LOSSES
-9 UNITS
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TOTAL +36 UNITS
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36 WINS
8 LOSSES
-4 UNITS
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TOTAL
+32 UNITS
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15 WINS
4 LOSSES
-5 UNITS
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TOTAL
+27 UNITS
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40 WINS
5 LOSSES
+15 UNITS
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TOTAL
+42 UNITS
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35 WINS
4 LOSSES
+15 UNITS
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TOTAL
+57 UNITS
How many units on zero, vs DS?
tonights testing done
tested roughly 350 live wheel spins
+57 units
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Quote from: Bigbroben on Aug 08, 11:19 PM 2018
How many units on zero, vs DS?
have not figured that out yet
any ideas? enough to make some profit thats about it
I dunno...
1/10th?
My airball machines are $15 minimum
Lowest chip denomination is $1
I’d likely use $10 units
So $10 per line. Then $4 split between 0/00
So a line Win is +$10 (+1 unit)
And a 0/00 Win is +$ 70 (+7 unit)
So deduct the wager in 0/00 when you win the line bets, and you profit $6 per line win
On 0/00 Win your profit after removing the line wagers is $20
Sorry if it’s jumbled I’m at work
But to summarize the ratio would be $4 split between 0/00 and $10 on each line
On euro $2 on 0 and $10 per line
One for you RG, but I decided to hang my ass out in the wind and not cover the 0/00 split at all. Played with 1u bets:
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41 wins
7 losses
Total: +6
Thanks for testing
Always use money you can be without as losing sessions do happen
I had 4 winning sessions and 3 losing ones
The losing ones were not much though, still +57 :)
I had an extreme amount of 0s for some reason so not covering it would have been bad
Another, 0/00 uncovered again.
I bet it would do well with +1/-1 bet selection thanks to the W streaks it sees:
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39 wins
8 losses
Total: -1
You could be right
The 3 losing sessions I had were only a few units
No big deal
So far I’m liking it.
We shall see.
Flat bet only for now
But maybe leveler as well. On a loss go up a unit and stay there until recover.
(Cover that zero)
I’m just not about complicated methods
I like nice and easy and “stupidâ€
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 09, 03:11 PM 2018
I’m just not about complicated methods
I like nice and easy and “stupidâ€
I like it, we just need to dial in the bet selection. Like Iggy's Fun Factory it's a nice distraction from trying to piece together grail hints from old threads all day :wink:
I’ve tested static 5 lines
Betting the same 5 lines over and over is not nearly as good as this
Some thing about the “matrix†style
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 09, 03:31 PM 2018
I’ve tested static 5 lines
Betting the same 5 lines over and over is not nearly as good as this
Some thing about the “matrix†style
You're right, it has a bit of the anti-pattern philosophies in it, which is definitely better than static.
quick 50 spin live wheel test (celtic casino 00)
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37 WINS
6 LOSSES
+7 UNITS (counting win on 0 as 1 unit but it would be more)
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Total since testing began
+64 units flat betting 5 lines against the decision 5 back (matrix flapjack style)
every test has a minimum win streak of 9 in a row...how can this be used? positive progression on a win until goal reached?
if you bet 6 numbers randomly you will need a progression in the long run...we are using the casino tactic against them....THEY are the ones betting the 6 numbers, we use that to our advantage
unfair payout still? sure
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not good at math
need to make the 0/00 bet a lower denomination for sure
or like you are doing mako, no 0 bet at all
yea i think i have the math wrong
not as good as it looks with the chips on zero
need a better plan for this method
I agree. No bet on zero. Just hope it's not raining 0s. Easier to play I guess.
Forget the 0
I do NOT suggest a negative progression for this
That being said
On my tests it looks like doing a 1 3 9
Progression makes it all a winner
When I say that I mean:
Bet one unit
On a loss increase to 3 units and stay there for two wins then back to 1 unit. If you lose any of the 2 tries at 3 units increase to 9 units for two wins. Then Back to 1 unit
If you do this use very small unit size :)
Lose: 3 units for two tries
Lose again: 9 units two tries
RG, try this short term *parachutes *
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cheers
not something id recommend
but I ran through 250 live spins
betting against the line 10 back never busted with a 3 step progression
its very very stupid t do that with 30 numbers
but I am trying to think how money management can make betting a lot of numbers work