Simple yet effective for DS.
Each mini game is 8 spins long.
Track the first 2, then bet those first 2 to hit again in the next 6 spins.
progression standard 112346
2
5 bet 2,5 six times
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5 W +1
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BW
A few mini games:
5
2 bet 5,2
2 W+2
3
3
1
5
5
4
3 bet 4,3
5
1
1
5
4 W+3
4
2
4 bet 2,4
4 W+5
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1
6
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6
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3 bet 1,3
3 W+7
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4
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5
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1 bet 6,1
4
5
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5
6 W+8
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1
2 bet 1,2
3
5
4
2 W+10
1
5
2
4 bet 2,4
1
5
2 W+12
1
6
4
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6 bet 4,6
6 W+14
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1
1
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5
6 bet 5,6
3
2
5 +16
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3 bet 6,3
5
4
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6 +18
2
5
Maybe a better progression could be used for this, but has a consistent hit rate
BW
Can I make one suggestion
If both DS are in the same dozen which would mean betting the same dozen. Don’t do it since a dozen can sleep for a long time
Only bet if the DS are in two different dozens
I would bet for max 5 spins with this progression:
Up level after W session (if necesary), Down level after L session
to reduce losses if eventual lossing streak of bad sessions,
reset at new high.
1,1,2,3,5 / 5,5,10,15,25 / 25,25,50,75,125 / 125,125, 250,375, 625 (optional level).
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 24, 04:40 PM 2018
Can I make one suggestion
If both DS are in the same dozen which would mean betting the same dozen. Don’t do it since a dozen can sleep for a long time
Only bet if the DS are in two different dozens
Agreed, good suggestion
Quote from: Kattila on Aug 24, 05:11 PM 2018
I would bet for max 5 spins with this progression:
Up level after W session (if necesary), Down level after L session
to reduce losses if eventual lossing streak of bad sessions,
reset at new high.
1,1,2,3,5 / 5,5,10,15,25 / 25,25,50,75,125 / 125,125, 250,375, 625 (optional level).
Kattila, thanks, I'll give it a try like this.
1. 36
2. 28
3. 34 W
4. 14
5. 34
6. 0
7. 14
8. 1
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9. 32
10. 31
11. 27
12. 25 W
13. 24
14. 27
15. 11
16. 33
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17. 3
18. 25
19. 5 W
20. 30
21. 3
22. 15
23. 27
24. 15
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25. 27
26. 31
27. 19
28. 3
29. 27 W
30. 35
31. 20
32. 6
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33. 7
34. 4
35. 16
36. 33
37. 16
38. 3 W
39. 30
40. 31
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41. 7
42. 12
43. 23
44. 7 W
45. 2
46. 29
47. 15
48. 23
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49. 9
50. 32
51. 21
52. 27
53. 2
54. 33 W
55. 12
56. 9
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57. 19
58. 31
59. 15
60. 13
61. 12
62. 11
63. 12
64. 19 W
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65. 29
66. 34
67. 30 W
68. 19
69. 25
70. 27
71. 18
72. 1
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PLAYING WITH ORIGINAL RULES, EVEN IF FIRST TWO DS WERE IN SAME DOZEN ALL WINS
played 75 american wheel live spins
2. 33
3. 11
4. 31 W
5. 12
6. 14
7. 10
8. 5
9. 15
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10. 36
11. 34 SAME DS
12. 0 ZERO
13. 30 WOULDNT BET THIS SET?!
14. 22
15. 33
16. 18
17. 33
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18. 9
19. 10
20. 17
21. 24
22. 2
23. 14 W
24. 30
25. 27
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26. 2
27. 18
28. 18 W
29. 21
30. 26
31. 13
32. 11
33. 22
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34. 24
35. 14
36. 00
37. 18 W
38. 25
39. 6
40. 0
41. 5
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42. 0
43. 26
44. 21
45. 25 W
46. 15
47. 10
48. 4
49. 24
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50. 24
51. 2
52. 4 W
53. 00
54. 25
55. 24
56. 14
57. 1
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58. 12
59. 12
60. 24
61. 23 W
62. 29
63. 20
64. 35
65. 1
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66. 36
67. 5
68. 13
69. 22
70. 00
71. 9
72. 20
73. 1 W
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ALL WINS
WARRANTS FURTHER INVESTIGATION
1. 24
2. 31
3. 32 W
4. 21
5. 1
6. 12
7. 16
8. 00
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9. 32
10. 13
11. 3
12. 29
13. 23
14. 0
15. 29
16. 36 W
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17. 1
18. 31
19. 22
20. 19 LOSS
21. 24
22. 0
23. 9
24. 12
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25. 32
26. 10
27. 36 W
28. 9
29. 17
30. 27
31. 2
32. 1
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33. 34
34. 22
35. 0
36. 14
37. 13
38. 21 W
39. 7
40. 33
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41. 11
42. 22
43. 0
44. 14
45. 5
46. 36
47. 8 W
48. 29
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IN 200 SPINS ONLY ONE LOSING SET NOT BAD
Yeah pretty good, right.
I think definitely go for broke after a lost session...2 lost in a row, you'd be damn unlucky
I’m terrible with math
Wonder how we’d bet with insurance on zero
Insurance on zero turns my losing set into a winning one
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 24, 07:01 PM 2018
I’m terrible with math
Wonder how we’d bet with insurance on zero
Insurance on zero turns my losing set into a winning one
If insuring your system with zero makes it a winner, then just bet zero, duh! ::)
i know systems are never something youd agree with (no matter what)
but the reason is that for this method ZERO does not fall into a double street....so it helps..
you do not even bother me anymore its posters like BLERGE and FALKOR that give me the heeby geebies
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 24, 07:25 PM 2018
i know systems are never something youd agree with (no matter what)
but the reason is that for this method ZERO does not fall into a double street....so it helps..
you do not even bother me anymore its posters like BLERGE and FALKOR that give me the heeby geebies
Ghost,
Step back and think about it. Why should betting the zero help at all? It just increases the amount of money you expose to the house edge.
In roulette you can't gain anything from hedging.
My advice, play to win more rather than to lose less.
Quote from: The General on Aug 24, 07:33 PM 2018
Ghost,
Step back and think about it. Why should betting the zero help at all? It just increases the amount of money you expose to the house edge.
In roulette you can't gain anything from hedging.
My advice, play to win more rather than to lose less.
in this particular case, it is simple
it is a strategy betting the lines....zero is not part of a line....
the method survived 200 spins easily, it lost once, because of zero...
simple to understand
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 24, 07:47 PM 2018
in this particular case, it is simple
it is a strategy betting the lines....zero is not part of a line....
the method survived 200 spins easily, it lost once, because of zero...
simple to understand
Ghost,
Why did you test for 200 spins? Why not just one spin?
Why not just one spin?
Why testing such a small sample?
Gen, what's your minimal relevant amount of trials?
24 Mini games, around 200 spins. 2 losses, 22 wins. It may sound overwhelmingly in favour of the system, but actually this is about expected. 2 losses equals -34 units. 22 wins, roughly, depending on when hit would be about +36 units
I think to overcome this, would be to also attack the mini game AFTER a loss. If you get a double loss, then go home with your tail between your legs. But with so few losses in 200 spin cycles, I'd gamble against it
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money management and progression still seems to be the key to success
Retrack on win or let all 8 spins go?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 24, 08:59 PM 2018
money management and progression still seems to be the key to success
Yep, same with any system. That's why you may as well keep it simple
Quote from: Bigbroben on Aug 24, 09:00 PM 2018
Retrack on win or let all 8 spins go?
I've been letting all 8 spins, but only cos I like the look of it
my recent goal is finding steep progressions on a large group of numbers, never losing
thats why i have been testing 5 double streets
as a gambler for many years i know betting many numbers is a very bad bet
but betting large groups of numbers in the short term is a winner, especially if you reduce the exposre....limit it to a statistically irrelevant number of spins
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 24, 09:33 PM 2018
my recent goal is finding steep progressions on a large group of numbers, never losing
thats why i have been testing 5 double streets
as a gambler for many years i know betting many numbers is a very bad bet
but betting large groups of numbers in the short term is a winner, especially if you reduce the exposre....limit it to a statistically irrelevant number of spins
Nope.
If it loses in the long run then it can lose in the short run. Think like this, what if there were thousands of people playing the same short term system all at the same time on different wheels. Cumulatively they would add up to a loss. Only luck would determine the winners, not hit and run/ money management nonsense. ::)
Betting so many streets, numbers and hedging your bets indicates that you're likely playing with scared money. You're not playing to win, you're just trying to lose less
Try betting just five or six numbers and running an up as you win progression. Your initial bets can be larger, and when you're lucky your wins will be on average much bigger