im thinking of revealing the "Goldking-system"...haven't decided yet, maybe, yes--I never said it was a HG?
Now, playing with Oscar's Grind, positive progression, you may be lucky for some time, but you won't win endlessly (if you don't have a very large BR, that is?)
I guess, some kind of Stoploss would be needed, played with a positive progression, i.e (you stop at a certain point, and accept a minor loss etc, instead of continue and risk a greater loss (as you can see in the chart?)
So. hit and run, (as always) short sessions, yes? Longer sessions ...i don't think so?
Test 1. (Live-spins, 1u bets)
By far among your hundreds,maybe less :D which is your best strategy /system. Or you haven't posted it yet?
Quote from: seykid31 on Oct 19, 11:20 PM 2018
By far among your hundreds,maybe less :D which is your best strategy /system. Or you haven't posted it yet?
Well? What can i say, "Goldking" is by far, the most *profitable*,...although "winrate" may not be high, the way im playin it now, i'd say it should be VERY RARE/impossible to have a "complete loss", with a big enough BR, you will have minor drawdowns/losses, but never a "complete loss" (as can and will happen with a negative progression etc)....i Still say Goldking is my best one, ....it took some time to find the right progression levels but i think i found a good/working progression level now....
I will demonstrate this, in time,.. O0
Well done Ignatus :)
I sent u some questions about your forex strategy. How is it going?
Keep it up :thumbsup:
Well? O0 ....what can i say? really i don't know...? :love:
Test. 25u bets, Livespins..
Ignatus,
Frankly, you're better than this. You've garnered too much respect around here to start trolling now.
You've always been very transparent about your testing, so I hope you continue that moving forward.
You know as well as anyone that those graphs are worthless without the method attached for others to verify. In fact, I can't think of another member more forthcoming with his methodology than you.
Looking forward to hearing about this new monster method you created. Cheers! :thumbsup:
Ignatus, remember to be realistic about tests you do. They are still very short term. I expect youll find the main factor in your success so far is the progression of reset after bankroll increase, not the bet selection. The fundamentals of your approaches are incorrect. I do hope im wrong though. But time will tell.
Quote from: Steve on Oct 20, 07:57 PM 2018is the progression of reset after bankroll increase
Yes the never ending visit to the ATM
Quote from: Steve on Oct 20, 07:57 PM 2018I expect youll find the main factor in your success so far is the progression of reset after bankroll increase, not the bet selection
Well? Yes? i've been working on to find the best progression for this bet, the last couple of days....and it's a positive one, that much i can say? But, i don't know (i doubt it's a long term winner), although good profits can be made in a short time (if lucky, Hit'n Run) with this Betselection + this new progression, yes.. this is still a work in progress, but i will get it coded now, soon, so we'll see.. :)
Test 2**New progression 5u bets, Live spins
Will you share it?
Well now, you know, as i have said before, you guys and this forum have been my inspiration all these years,...and furthermore, have hard to keep anything a "secret" so, i give it now.
All im asking IS you help me now test it and find the best progression,
I have tried, the last couple of days to find the best,....but Steve is right, it's not the betselection that matters/ because it's Not a flatbet winner,..so therefore, only short-term, hit-n-run may work,..
*Note- All my progressions is based on the 3 "core numbers" (numbers 5,8,11) So, all progressions are based on these 3 numbers, (and calculating with this, a cycle bet of 12 spins).
cheers
Ig
I use to do a bet on a missing dozen that had missed for 5 spins and was guaranteed to come in with in 11 spins.
So the dozen could miss for 15 spins and then drop in.
This bet was from the internet and was posted by a programmer for a casino. I can only guess they were pissed off for some reason.
Okay this bet won on the FOBT’s for months and months, it was like the sun comes up in the East and sets in the West, it always won; and then one day it lost.
Now if I had looked on forums I would have learnt that any dozen could miss for at least 34 spins.
It even got discussed with Mogul, how many times a dozen could miss.
The good thing here is I see you have only 12 spins
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Timestamp: 2018-10-22 21:16:49 UTC
Theres a RFH in these
Alright now, so, to make this beselection *work* you need to find a working progression for this bet.
AND i am mindblown right now? I have been working with different progressions the last couple of days, with (mostly failed progressions) BUT THIS ?? hey.... :ooh:
am i lucky just now, from my first test? (you tell me?)
I call this one "Double Attack-Progression"
It's both a positive and negative progression, but Only two steps 1,3 STOP
Basic bet is a total of 2 cycles (2*12=24 spins)
Procedure: Wait for a Virtual hit of any of the "core numbers" (5.8,11) THEN start bet...do 12 spins,(1u bet) IF no hit bet last cycle of 12 spins (3u) IF hit within the last cycle, Begin a new "doubleattack" (1u) same procedure, do 12 spins, if no hit, last cycle 3u ....UNTIL the complete 24 spin cycle is lost (or IF the last cycle bet with 3u is lost) .....but here is the trick; -IF you get a hit at the FIRST cycle, immediatly bet 3u and calculate 12 spins (then Stop).... IF hit within the that last cycle of 3u, begin anew Doubleattack with 1u...etc.. Until a complete loss....THEN STOP and *remove* all bets Restart (wait for a new Virtual Hit before bet again)....
That's it. O0
Test 1. (25u bets, Livespins)
*IF hit--> IF any of the *core numbers hit*
Ok so now i tested the "Double Attack" progression .(played with 25u bets)
+10 000u from a short test yesterday
+15 000u today, (although, i got lucky at first and won +40 000u in a very short time, but then i reached a certain point where winning more seems to be hard? so it was a rollercoaster-ride up and down, finally a drawdown of ~25000u so i quit...) but still +15000u This ofcourse had a bad effect on the "winrate", but im still in profit now.. +125 000u..
so, as you play this one, it's "Hit'n Run" -- (don't think it will win endlessly), as you get a decent proftit/reach a realistic wingoal STOP/Quit.
cheers
thanks igna. I will try the real money with the small unit right now
Tried it live roulette. Super. Thank you Ignatus :)
Quote from: Face on Oct 23, 09:31 AM 2018
Tried it live roulette. Super. Thank you Ignatus :)
:thumbsup:
Well, reached my wingoal for today, now +150 000$ hehe >:D :love:
I see we got a new tester of goldking on the MPR, very impressive +90 000$ in 800 spins :thumbsup:
Quote from: ignatus on Oct 22, 05:27 PM 2018
Procedure: Wait for a Virtual hit of any of the "core numbers" (5.8,11) THEN start bet...do 12 spins,(1u bet) IF no hit bet last cycle of 12 spins (3u) IF hit within the last cycle, Begin a new "doubleattack" (1u) same procedure, do 12 spins, if no hit, last cycle 3u ....UNTIL the complete 24 spin cycle is lost (or IF the last cycle bet with 3u is lost) .....but here is the trick; -IF you get a hit at the FIRST cycle, immediatly bet 3u and calculate 12 spins (then Stop).... IF hit within the that last cycle of 3u, begin anew Doubleattack with 1u...etc.. Until a complete loss....THEN STOP and *remove* all bets Restart (wait for a new Virtual Hit before bet again)....
Just a quick question so im sure i got it right: so if you play the first cycle of 12 spins without a win on the 3 core numbers, then you reset and wait for a new virtual win trigger? And the same if you loose all 12 spins on second cycle? (aka reset to 1 unit & wait for a new virtual core trigger?)
But on a hopefully good run: on a win on cycle 1 (1 unit) you "jump up" to cycle 2 (use 3 units) and on a win in cycle 2 we jump down back to cycle 1 again?
Anyways, really good bet selection and is a bit like Matrix 9 but a fair bit more compressed/streamlined so it has larger "leaps up". Do watch out for the rare cold dozen streak that Notto mentioned. But i guess if you get a dealer who favors "high" i guess you can similar bet selection at the high end of the table or "follow the last area bet" if the dealer is being all like HHHHHHLLLLLLHHHHHHLLL.
Also the "core" of the bet is basicly hoping that one of the 3 core numbers (here 5, 8 11) repeats in the next 12-24 spins. I havnt enough experience to know how much it matter or is critical yet. But i guess it couldnt hurt if you skipped at least the first 2 bets after the trigger hits? I mean it would obviously be really sad if you missed out on a ultra magic run of immediately hitting numbers like 5,8,5,8 or 5,5,5 but the question is if this would happen even once in 500 games. And sure we all see the immediate repeated numbers happen .. but its never the numbers im betting on at that moment. Again im not sure if the non-core selection hits enough that it dosnt matter but skipping at least the first 2 spins after the trigger i think is money saved in the long run.
Quote from: Thanatos on Oct 23, 04:30 PM 2018Just a quick question so im sure i got it right: so if you play the first cycle of 12 spins without a win on the 3 core numbers, then you reset and wait for a new virtual win trigger? And the same if you loose all 12 spins on second cycle? (aka reset to 1 unit & wait for a new virtual core trigger?)
This is not correct? As you lost the fist cycle (1u) of 12 spins, Then you raise bets to (3u) and do another 12 spins, hoping for a hit... this is the "doubleattack" (24 spins) IF That complete cycle of 24 spins is lost, you Stop/*Remove* all bets and wait for a new Virtual win on any of the "core numbers" before betting again, This IS because, as i figured this bet, first as a number hits (This is a signal to bet, Because numbers always/or (most of the time) use to hit in *clusters* /within a short timeframe, THEN usually followed by a longer or shorter sleeping time... So Stopping after 24 spins, would cut further losses, if a longer sleeping time come etc, And as the sleeping time End and you get a new Virtual win, you place the bets..and so on..
Quote from: Thanatos on Oct 23, 04:30 PM 2018
But on a hopefully good run: on a win on cycle 1 (1 unit) you "jump up" to cycle 2 (use 3 units) and on a win in cycle 2 we jump down back to cycle 1 again?
Yes, this is correct :)
Another thing i figured, to reduce the waiting time for a "Virtual win", when using the "DoubleAttack-progression", is to look for *Any hit* within the 2 sections (see pic)
Im not saying the "DoubleAttack"-progression is the Only way to play this? it's just something i figured, that *seems* to work?....
If you have other ideas/better progression-ideas, feel free to test/try them also?,.. all im asking, for sharing this "secret" bet/progression is you test it, and share your result? (and figure what progression may work best?).. :question:
Well done Iggy - people are intrigued and taking notice of your methods (there’s 50 or so on here peeping) :thumbsup:
- at the very least you - you are generating traffic for Steve and his crew ::)
-Best Wishes-
Considering it's a middle column bet, in the Tier section, this what came
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/10/24/source.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/TWGig)
Next spin you'll be happy it's the middle column #5
Alright notto :)
Now, i figured a similar/new bet/progression i call "DoubleAttack 2" This, is played as true "hit'n run"; I got lucky? at the fist test 8/10 Games won,
-Start of at a Virtual win at any of the "core numbers", Now you do only *1* attack/12 spins. (1u) IF that cycle of 12 spins is LOST, you STOP/wait for a new Virtual win. Same procedure (second, last cycle, 1u bet)- do 12 spins IF lost STOP/Quit/End session.
Here is the trick, IF hit within the first cycle of 12 spins you DOUBLE bets Once (2u) IF you win at that second 12 spin cycle (with 2u be)t AND that bet wins and generate *Any* kind of profit you Also STOP/Quit/End session.
This is the Hit'n Run Dreamer for this bet (adapted to Live-play), now a Hit/win of the "double-attack" will generate (played with 5u bets 400-1000u profit)...A total loss (of the 2 "attacks") will be a loss of about -1000-1400u..
More testing is needed... (As i said i don't know if this work, at all/or if i was just "lucky" from the fist test?) ....
Test 1-10 (5u bets, Livespins)
Ig
I've had 67 spins, betting for repeats, i get what i want
The question is do you want to see the sheet, it shows how the 67 spins happen. Remember it is done manually
Quote from: nottophammer on Oct 24, 06:47 AM 2018
Ig
I've had 67 spins, betting for repeats, i get what i want
The question is do you want to see the sheet, it shows how the 67 spins happen. Remember it is done manually
Hi notto :) well, that's great, but anything not related to this bet, maybe not? :S
About this "DoubleAttack 2", a 12 spin frame, is *too short*, now an attack must be based on 24 spins,... :question:
Im still working on this, now i figured another doubleattack, based on 24 spins.. i will test this,...we'll see
Well now! playin around with another progression, i then Notice something Strange? MOST hits, playin the "DoubleAttack-progression" comes within the 2 cycle (24 spins). H0! So what is this?? That's why the original "Doubleattack" was working, BUT NOW- I tried this FLATBET ..and it worked! O0
(Although, it seems not to be "winning forever"/ it reach a certain point where higher profit will be hard to get/takes a very long time? so, hit'n run i think a good wingoal would be somewhere between 1000-2000u (5u bets) (or perhaps lower, depending on your gameplay) That would be: 200-400u (played with 1u bets) Also good thing Flatbet...it will take much more time to have a complete LOSS, (that would be a *slow* process, so you have time to quit before that happens- and walk away atleast with Some profit?
I call this one
Double-Attack FLAT
-ALWAYS wait for a Virtual win before placing bets. (Any hit of the "core numbers")
-When you get a Virtual win, place bets, and do 24 spins. IF Win or Lost (after 24 spins) STOP/Remove bets and wait for a new virtual win, before placing the bets again, and do another "Doubleattack" of 24 spins...and so on
That's it O0
(Again, this needs more testings..)
Test 1. (5u bets, Livespins)
Well now, i coded this thing, and, now testing different Negative progressions, i think i found somthing?,...from my experience "longer term testings" with negative progressions, the only thing, i think is true, IS USE a SHORT but AGRESSIVE progression BECAUSE, no matter what negative progression you use, it wiil *Always* lose, soo, by using a short, but agressive progression it will lose, but will recover quicky, And it will in *most cases* reach a nice profit/wingoal (within a short timeframe) before it crash and burn.....
For this bet, it's a 27 step progression, (a 3 step supermartingale), I call it "S9"
RX code
system "Goldking S9"
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
Set List [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7]
to Record "progression" Data
end
Copy List [number 5,number 8, number 11,split(5-6),split(8-9),split(11-12),
split(4-5),split(7-8),split(10-11),split(2-5),split(11-14),split(5-8),split(8-11)]
to Record "Bet1" Layout
Copy List [number 26,number 29, number 32,split(26-27),split(29-30),split(32-33),
split(25-26),split(28-29),split(31-32),split(23-26),split(26-29),split(29-32),split(32-35)]
to Record "Bet2" Layout
while on each spin
begin
If any number bet lost each time
begin
add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 5 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 8 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 11 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 26 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 29 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 32 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
if number 5 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 8 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 11 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 26 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
if number 29 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
if number 32 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
If number 5 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 8 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 11 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 26 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If number 29 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If number 32 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
End
end
END
Test 1-10 (1u bets, Livespins)
Ignatus,
an observation... What if you re-ran the below but at only 250 spin intervals?
When I look at all the images, seems like most the time your ahead in the region of 250 spins.
Quote from: Maui13 on Oct 25, 05:53 AM 2018
Ignatus,
an observation... What if you re-ran the below but at only 250 spin intervals?
When I look at all the images, seems like most the time your ahead in the region of 250 spins.
Alright, that will be easy fix'd :) Good idea.. :thumbsup:
Well? First test-session was not so impressive? or? +800u in 10 games? good or bad idk,...if you got better MM-plans, let me know..:s
(more testings needed)
calculating wins/losses
wins
400
400
400
400
400
400
losses
-400
-400
-400
-400
6/10 won (+400/-400)
Total=+800u
Here's the code (with a Stop after 250 spins)...
system "Goldking S9"
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
Set List [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7,7]
to Record "progression" Data
end
Copy List [number 5,number 8, number 11,split(5-6),split(8-9),split(11-12),
split(4-5),split(7-8),split(10-11),split(2-5),split(11-14),split(5-8),split(8-11)]
to Record "Bet1" Layout
Copy List [number 26,number 29, number 32,split(26-27),split(29-30),split(32-33),
split(25-26),split(28-29),split(31-32),split(23-26),split(26-29),split(29-32),split(32-35)]
to Record "Bet2" Layout
while on each spin
begin
if total spin count=250 each time
begin
stop session
end
If any number bet lost each time
begin
add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 5 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 8 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 11 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 26 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 29 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 32 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
if number 5 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 8 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 11 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 26 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
if number 29 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
if number 32 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
If number 5 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 8 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 11 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 26 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If number 29 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If number 32 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
End
end
END
OMG! :ooh: you know what this mean??? no, you don't? neither do i?. But all i can say, right now, im mind-blown, ...did 2 sessions, (both did very well) i don't even know what to say?...This is IT.... :love: :ooh: :ooh: :o
I call this progression A21
It's 21 Steps,..gosh, gosh,..only two Steps 1,2 STOP
progression 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 STOP
Can you imagine? THIS is the Highroller's Grail? HAHA oh my god..... >:D
MoneyManagement-plan: 500u BR/Stoploss. *Here is the trick, you Don't have a wingoal, you play only until you wish to End session, (in this example 250 spins/Livespins) That would be a "normal" session, as TG once said, "i don't have a "wingoal" i stop whenever i want to"....
For me, this is my grail? i don't think i could do better with this betselection/find a better/more perfect progression....
Anyway, knock yourself out ,.. O0
cheers
Test 1-10 (1u bets, Livespins)
calculating wins/losses
wins
16
679
556
815
583
435
losses
-500
-100
-200
-309
Total= +1975u
RX code:
system "Goldking A21"
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
Set List [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2]
to Record "progression" Data
end
Copy List [number 5,number 8, number 11,split(5-6),split(8-9),split(11-12),
split(4-5),split(7-8),split(10-11),split(2-5),split(11-14),split(5-8),split(8-11)]
to Record "Bet1" Layout
Copy List [number 26,number 29, number 32,split(26-27),split(29-30),split(32-33),
split(25-26),split(28-29),split(31-32),split(23-26),split(26-29),split(29-32),split(32-35)]
to Record "Bet2" Layout
while on each spin
begin
if total spin count=250 each time
begin
stop session
end
If any number bet lost each time
begin
add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 5 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 8 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 11 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 26 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 29 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 32 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
if number 5 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 8 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 11 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 26 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
if number 29 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
if number 32 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
If number 5 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 8 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 11 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 26 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If number 29 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If number 32 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
End
end
END
Do you still wait for a hit on one of the core numbers(5,8,11) before you begin betting with this new progression?
Quote from: Irish88 on Oct 25, 04:20 PM 2018
Do you still wait for a hit on one of the core numbers(5,8,11) before you begin betting with this new progression?
Yes, that's the trigger to place bets :)
Well now, ran a third test with the "A21" progression, and had a major loss . Alright....so? Was this the End? no? Again, my wisdom came true- "USE a SHORT, but AGRESSIVE Negative progression" ey? How is it possible to turn a losing session into a winner? well, i did it.... point IS -There is no use chasing a losing Bet. A new wisdom "if it's gonna lose, it's gonna lose, no matter what progression you use", so? Let it lose.(cut that bastard, let it go) ...But then "when it's gonna win it's gonna win, Big" This is also true, FOR THIS progression, it's 18 Steps now;
I call it "The X9-progression"
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 STOP
Furthermore, another interesting thing-- A 500u BR IS *too small* for this bet. A minimum BR of 1000u is needed, Why? Because, as you can see from my result, using a 500u- BR you would have *4* Total losses from this session 4*(-500u) BUT with a larger Bank (1000u) now, playin a 250-spin session you see, those 3/4 of those "losing sessions"/ recovered and the losses was reduced, even 1 session turned into a positive BR....Worst from this session was a loss of -640u, so, a TOTAL loss of the 1000u BR never happned Once.....Furthermore, the *best* session with this progression generated a Major profit of +1500u;
Test2.
calculating wins/losses
wins
+1500
+273
+900
+176
losses
(500) -630
-39
(500) -11
(500) +74
-425
(500) -189
Total= +1629u
RX-Code "X9-Progression"
system "Goldking X9"
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
Set List [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3]
to Record "progression" Data
end
Copy List [number 5,number 8, number 11,split(5-6),split(8-9),split(11-12),
split(4-5),split(7-8),split(10-11),split(2-5),split(11-14),split(5-8),split(8-11)]
to Record "Bet1" Layout
Copy List [number 26,number 29, number 32,split(26-27),split(29-30),split(32-33),
split(25-26),split(28-29),split(31-32),split(23-26),split(26-29),split(29-32),split(32-35)]
to Record "Bet2" Layout
while on each spin
begin
if total spin count=250 each time
begin
stop session
end
If any number bet lost each time
begin
add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 5 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 8 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 11 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 26 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 29 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 32 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
if number 5 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 8 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 11 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 26 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
if number 29 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
if number 32 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
If number 5 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 8 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 11 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 26 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If number 29 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If number 32 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
End
end
END
Man it is sooooo nice to have the RX code, thanks for providing that Iggy.
5 runs, downloaded spins, X9 progression, 1u bets:
Quote from: Mako on Oct 26, 01:55 AM 2018
Man it is sooooo nice to have the RX code, thanks for providing that Iggy.
5 runs, downloaded spins, X9 progression, 1u bets:
Wow man, that was no good resuts..eh...you need to run atleast 10 session and calculate the Profits/losses from that...
Just finished 4*10 Live-sessions now, *All were winner* (as you can see??) :ooh:
calculating wins/losses
Test 1.
wins
+691
+533
+1375
+288
+195
+293
losses
-60
-135
-109
-707
Total= +2364u===========
Test2.
wins
+1500
+273
+900
+176
losses
(500) -630
-39
(500) -11
(500) +74
-425
(500) -189
Total= +1629u===========
Test 3.
wins
+464
+278
+155
+47
+1650
+305
losses
-656
-861
(1000) -68
-412
Total= +902u===========
Test 4.
wins
+783
+1302
+343
+311
+1171
+706
+792
losses
-230
-48
-1161
Total= +3969u========================
Grand Total= +8864u O0
5 more, downloaded spins, X9 progression, 1u bets. This is all with the X9 progression code as it is above, no stoploss limits other than what's in the code as Iggy wrote it.
Which brings my 10 test total to:
Wins
+959
+634
+784
+418
+792
+1018
Losses
-774
-414
-384
-181
Total = +2852u :thumbsup:
Quote from: Mako on Oct 26, 02:48 AM 2018
5 more, downloaded spins, X9 progression, 1u bets. This is all with the X9 progression code as it is above, no stoploss limits other than what's in the code as Iggy wrote it.
Which brings my 10 test total to:
Wins
+959
+634
+784
+418
+792
+1018
Losses
-774
-414
-384
-181
Total = +2852u :thumbsup:
omg omg ;D You know what this means, right? We're gonna be rich soon! haha >:D >:D 8)
Thanks for testing mako :love:
Quote from: ignatus on Oct 26, 12:03 AM 2018
Well now, ran a third test with the "A21" progression, and had a major loss . Alright....so? Was this the End? no? Again, my wisdom came true- "USE a SHORT, but AGRESSIVE Negative progression" ey? How is it possible to turn a losing session into a winner? well, i did it.... point IS -There is no use chasing a losing Bet. A new wisdom "if it's gonna lose, it's gonna lose, no matter what progression you use", so? Let it lose.(cut that bastard, let it go) ...But then "when it's gonna win it's gonna win, Big" This is also true, FOR THIS progression, it's 18 Steps now;
I call it "The X9-progression"
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 STOP
.... ... ...
This sound a lot like some kind of "variable stoploss". Oh i remembered back when i "invented" variable stoploss, i was so proud of myself for about 10 seconds untill i realised that someone obviously thought of it before me. And sure enough if you google it you get a 1000 trading pages about different kinda stoplosses. Depends on the system if it works of cause.
The idea is quite simple really especially as i guess you dont really need a "stopwin"/goal but only a stoploss. You started with a +400 -400 but has moved on trying different progressions & shorter session length etc. Instead of changing the progression, perhaps adjust the stoploss instead based on the trot direction &/or on session time.
Example: when you start out having a -400 stoploss is fine, but if you 10 spins later has lost 10 times in a row then the stoploss should probably be raised to -200 and/or even end the session completely to minimize the loss. Similar if you have won a lot in like 20 spins like you are 350 unit up then the stoploss shouldnt be -400 either but perhaps even shorter +275 (aka only 75 units down from current 350 winnings) to preserve winnings quickly if a bad streak happens. Been a while since ive touched programming but i guess a couple of counters could do it & then some timebased checks? The hard part is obviously to "tune" it to bankroll/system/progresssion.
Quote from: Thanatos on Oct 26, 04:33 PM 2018perhaps adjust the stoploss instead based on the trot direction &/or on session time.
Thanks, very good idea! :)
Progressioin modified again, now, an ordinary 3 numbers negative progression...
Played with the CTS-(2 cycles 24 spins) This progression is 26 steps, (so pretty close).
Progression: 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,5,5 STOP
Did a short test (60% winrate) with a +400/-400u BR/Stoploss.
Need to to more testings, and figure out the best *BR* for this bet? Perhaps you got ideas. I think 400u is the Absolute minimum BR for this bet?.,..idk :question:
Goldking-Acidtester (wg/sl +400/-400)
(Livespins)
W +400
W +400
W +400
L -400
W +400
L -400
W +400
L -400
W +400
L -400
W +400
W +400
L -400
W +400
L -400
W +400
L -400
L -400
W +400
W +400
12/20 = 60% winrate
Wins 12*400= 4800
Loss 8*400= 3200
Total = +1600u
Testing-RX-code
[system "CTS Goldking"
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
Set List [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,5,5]
to Record "progression" Data
end
Copy List [number 5,number 8, number 11,split(5-6),split(8-9),split(11-12),
split(4-5),split(7-8),split(10-11),split(2-5),split(11-14),split(5-8),split(8-11)]
to Record "Bet1" Layout
Copy List [number 26,number 29, number 32,split(26-27),split(29-30),split(32-33),
split(25-26),split(28-29),split(31-32),split(23-26),split(26-29),split(29-32),split(32-35)]
to Record "Bet2" Layout
while on each spin
begin
if total spin count=300 each time
begin
stop session
end
if bankroll >= 400 each time
begin
stop session
end
if bankroll <= -400 each time
begin
stop session
end
If any number bet lost each time
begin
add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 5 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 8 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 11 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 26 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 29 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
If number 32 has won each
begin
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
if number 5 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 8 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 11 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
end
if number 26 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
if number 29 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
if number 32 has Hit each time
begin
if Total inside bets count = 0
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
end
If number 5 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 8 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 11 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet1" Layout List
end
If number 26 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If number 29 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If number 32 Lost each time
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "Bet2" Layout List
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
clear Record "Bet1" Layout
clear Record "Bet2" Layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
End
end
END/code]