This Forum is beyond recognition of what it was.
I am not announcing I am leaving for some dramatic effect, its because if I dont, I will go away for a bit and come back, like I have been doing for 2 years.
The forum has no direction anymore and openly supports the biggest roulette forum troll of all time. That made my mind up, for what its worth.
I stand down as moderator. I will type some crap in as a password so I cant remember it.
Thanks Steve for running this forum free. It served me well back in the day.
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very very sad to read this..good luck
Unfortunate, yet understandable..
Bon Voyage, Turner.
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Ok Turner, thanks for your time and effort with moderation.
You've given your opinion on Caleb, I've given mine with detailed explanations. We don't see eye to eye.
Quote from: Turner on Dec 04, 07:18 PM 2018The forum has no direction anymore
Quote from: Turner on Dec 04, 07:18 PM 2018This Forum is beyond recognition of what it was.
"Back in the day", trolls like Dyxsexlic, Charles Edward Hampshire etc were allowed to roam free, lying their asses off and deliberately misleading gullible people. They were peaceful, but unproductive days. They were well-loved and followed members. You dare not point out the gaping holes in their math and logic. Ignorance is bliss.
Today there's more conflict, because there are people around to call a spade a spade. But that truth is unpopular. It's inconvenient to some. It causes "friction", and people to be upset. And uneducated people confuse reality with opinion.
I would rather have a quiet unpleasant forum that's honest, than a pleasant and busy forum that's full of shit.
It's not a matter of what I believe. It's a matter of what IS. And I'm not going to turn a blind eye to bullshit like after RRRR, B is more likely.
I'm not talking about system tinkering. We've all done that. I'm talking about when someone claims to have the HG and is misleading a lot of people.
If anyone finds verifiable fact too troublesome, try either the system player's forum, or another forum completely because I'm not censoring truth, just because it's unpopular. I would not be pleased with myself if I did. It would not be the right thing to do.
On the matter of Caleb, how he behaves on other forums is not my concern. He is well aware of the rules here. Here he is attacked far more than anything he posts that might be an attack. I've been watching closely, and he has calmly asked clear and legitimate questions.... which were ignored. Why? Because the answers lead to proving someone is full of shit.
As I've said before, Caleb can be an asshole. But typically he becomes that way after rightfully pointing out someone's mistakes, then they take it personally and attack him. Sure he takes some delight in making fun of less-educated people. And some of his behavior is borderline trolling, but not over the line.
And when looking at his presence overall, some people just don't like him. I'll make this clear. I've had issues with him previously and I'm not particularly fond of him either. But that is irrelevant. I run this forum with the aim of being productive, without being a "downer". What I mean by "downer" is if I were honest, 99% of the systems and theories are nonsense. If I had time and will, I would explain the problems with them. But even if I did that, it would just piss people off however honest and accurate I was. So mostly I let people learn for themselves, and sometimes give explanations (mostly when multiple people are focused on a poor strategy, so my time is better spent).
Anyway it has all been said before. I shouldnt waste more time.
Quote from: Turner on Dec 04, 07:18 PM 2018
This Forum is beyond recognition of what it was.
I am not announcing I am leaving for some dramatic effect, its because if I dont, I will go away for a bit and come back, like I have been doing for 2 years.
The forum has no direction anymore and openly supports the biggest roulette forum troll of all time. That made my mind up, for what its worth.
I stand down as moderator. I will type some crap in as a password so I cant remember it.
Thanks Steve for running this forum free. It served me well back in the day.
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I log in to make this post after reading your thread.
I always quietly wished you will speak your mind.
I thank you for making this post.
You have gained my full respect, sir.
Take care and best wishes.
Luckyfella
He always spoke his mind, as have I. We just never agreed on some matters.
You were the best Turner
You tried to enforce the rules and let the forum run as it should without giving your opinion on said method.....how a moderator should act
The end is near im afraid
it is not that you concede to trolls like Caleb, it is more of a "it is not worth it anymore"...just not worth the time I suppose
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RG why dont you start your own forum? You could allow unsubstantiated bullshit to run wild. Questions could be forbidden and considered trolling. If anyone dared point out anything inconvenient, you could hang them. Paradise.
Take a break Turner, it's ok, but this forum is like hotel california;
Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
'Relax' said the night man,
'We are programmed to receive.
You can check out any time you like,
But you can never leave!'
You'll be back (or atleast lurking around) ;)
cheers O0
Quote from: Turner on Dec 04, 07:18 PM 2018
This Forum is beyond recognition of what it was.
I am not announcing I am leaving for some dramatic effect, its because if I dont, I will go away for a bit and come back, like I have been doing for 2 years.
The forum has no direction anymore and openly supports the biggest roulette forum troll of all time. That made my mind up, for what its worth.
I stand down as moderator. I will type some crap in as a password so I cant remember it.
Thanks Steve for running this forum free. It served me well back in the day.
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Good luck Turner, I always liked your bluntness and honesty.
Happy trails Turner :thumbsup:
Good Luck Mr. Turner and Mr. Steve.
And Thanks for all your support, ideas and views.
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Love and Light from Africa.
SugTips
It fucking NINE alright??
Well played Ol’Man Turner :thumbsup:
-Onwards & Best Wishes -
@ turner, Good luck
Steve, go on like that, keep your forum enjoys freedom of speech .
Yes, because “free speech†works great for GF, such a wonderful environment to share new ideas and strategies...
Sad to see you go Turner, you will be missed.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Dec 05, 04:40 AM 2018
@ turner, Good luck
Steve, go on like that, keep your forum enjoys freedom of speech .
Yes, freedom of speech is very important. These days some people in the word are addicted to outrage. They look for anything that they can find to become outraged over. Unfortunately it leads to a loss of free speech.
link:s://:.wsj.com/articles/america-is-addicted-to-outrage-is-there-a-cure-1543620811
Here in the US, people are worn out by it. People here sometimes go out of there way to find something offensive or oppressive.
My intention above is not to stir the pot, and it's really all I'm going to say on this thread because there's no reason to say anything else. 8)
Mako, gf is not free speech. Its a mosh pit of dickheads banned elsewhere, or there to troll each other for fun. What we have is free speech without dickheadness.
And i dont get why some people are so sensitive to calebs criticism. I mean grow up. Grow a backbone. You dont live with him.
Anyone could put him on ignore. Anyone could post only in the system player board. But instead they prefer to complain as if he was ruining their life.
Wake up to the real world. People you don't like are everywhere. If you cant deal with it on a forum, you will struggle with the real world.
And if they happen to be right and a smart ass about it, then perhaps put truth before disliking someone.
Quote from: The General on Dec 05, 05:02 AM 2018
My intention above is not to stir the pot, and it's really all I'm going to say on this thread because there's no reason to say anything else. 8)
You posted the sunglasses guy. Thats trolling, to some people.
Good luck Turner, you were/are well respected.
Over the years what I have noticed is that when "employees" leave the establishment, there is something wrong with the management. Its one of the reasons I don't post much anymore.
Quote from: Nimo on Dec 05, 06:04 AM 2018
Good luck Turner, you were/are well respected.
Over the years what I have noticed is that when "employees" leave the establishment, there is something wrong with the management. Its one of the reasons I don't post much anymore.
It’s okay to express your opinion - that’s what we are calling for : freedom of speech.
BUT it’s not okay to blame the others without solid evidence! What you saying is called : spreading fake information.
Turner left and he is free, but the management can not be held guilty !
Nimo that's an interesting way of blaming others for your arguments not holding water.
And youll find turner agreed with how i run the forum. The only exceptions were allowing caleb, and wasting time explaining why approaches dont work (helping people), and i explained why.
So again, youre really complaining about your own poor understanding, or rather not taking responsibility for your own poor arguments. You arent the only one blaming me for that.
Thanks for all you have done Mr.Turner :thumbsup: