Here is another puzzle for you. Look the excel and test the seemingly Holy Molly system. Please, don't bother me with silly questions, I am at the time very busy.
If played LW strategy you will have long beard till you lose once. Don't step on it!
I posted it on other forum but they are already in winter hibernation sleep. Responses are blurred.
Cheers Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Nov 08, 05:47 PM 2010
I posted it on other forum but they are already in winter hibernation sleep.
:D
Hello Hermes,
I'm trying NOT to ask any silly questions but there is one part I just don't get. How do you ever get to the bets 1/2-1/2? If you are betting on the first 3 numbers in your group of six spins (1-1, 2-2, 4-4) you never get to the last 3 bets on the last 3 numbers in yoyr group of six numbers.
Example:
12-8-32-14-1-34 <-- In this case you would bet 2/3= L 2/3= L 1/3= W
As i see it, there are no provisions for going beyond betting 1-1, 2-2, 4-4 so you never get to the second 1/3 or the 1/2, 1/2.
Please explain the reason why. Also, please explain and give an example of when you said After a loss, wait until you have a win before commencing play. Thanks for your help.
I definately love this method and I will be playing it just as soon as I fully understand it.
Scooby Doo
Quote from: Hermes on Nov 08, 05:47 PM 2010
Here is another puzzle for you. Look the excel and test the seemingly Holy Molly system. Please, don't bother me with silly questions, I am at the time very busy.
If played LW strategy you will have long beard till you lose once. Don't step on it!
I posted it on other forum but they are already in winter hibernation sleep. Responses are blurred.
Cheers Hermes
Hi Hermes.
Is this post U put up yd, and the associated excel sheet,
would U mind me asking U which casino U played at to get these
spin results please?
Cheers Chris
Quote from: ScoobyDoo on Nov 09, 03:34 AM 2010
Hello Hermes,
I'm trying NOT to ask any silly questions but there is one part I just don't get. How do you ever get to the bets 1/2-1/2? If you are betting on the first 3 numbers in your group of six spins (1-1, 2-2, 4-4) you never get to the last 3 bets on the last 3 numbers in yoyr group of six numbers.
Example:
12-8-32-14-1-34 <-- In this case you would bet 2/3= L 2/3= L 1/3= W
As I see it, there are no provisions for going beyond betting 1-1, 2-2, 4-4 so you never get to the second 1/3 or the 1/2, 1/2.
Please explain the reason why. Also, please explain and give an example of when you said After a loss, wait until you have a win before commencing play. Thanks for your help.
I definately love this method and I will be playing it just as soon as I fully understand it.
Scooby Doo
SCOOBY I THINK YOUR BETTING ON 2-3 AND IF YOU LOSE BET IT AGAIN AND IF YOU LOSE BET ON 1-3 TWICE AND SO ON ,ON A WIN STOP,WAIT 6 SPINS .
how do i play this
You are right! I changed the progression from Leveller to less aggressive but didn't make the changes on sheet. Sorry for that mistake. Overworked?
The first top line is progression 1-2-3-4-4-4, the second line is betting selection, bet against 1-1-2-2-3-3 D or C.
The LW strategy means that you start to bet always against 1 st D/C each 6th spin. If you lose you wait for beginning of the next 6 spins. That way there are streaks of wins on first spin.
If you play the regular way and lose 6 spins because came 1D,1D,2D,2D,3D,3D you start next 6 spins with 4 units bet against the formation 1-1-2-2-3-3 until total in PLUS (like Leveller would do).
There is already one silly question: where I got the numbers? For sure not from RNGs but from live European roulette, Casino Konstanz in Germany!
Download the corrected excel.
Hermes
P.S. I checked 5,000 spins and never got this formation: 1-1-2-2-3-3-1-1-2-2-3-3! Not even near to this!
Progression 1/1, 2/2, 3/3, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4 Six steps for six spins(if necessary).
Bet dozen 2/3 2/3 1/3 1/3 1/2 1/2
Example(without Lw strategy):
We go for one Win in 6 spins !
NR.
bet doz. 2/3 with 1/1
34 3 w +1 ,WAIT to complete the 6 spins !
10
3
28
16
34
bet doz. 2/3 with 1/1
16 2 w +2 , wait
3
34
3
3
17
bet doz. 2/3 with 1/1
9 1 L1 0 bet doz. 2/3 with 2/2
14 2 w +2 wait
36
21
22
17
bet doz. 2/3 1/1
19 2 w +3 wait
35
28
30
2
34
bet doz. 2/3 1/1
3 1 L1 +1 bet doz. 2/3 with 2/2
6 1 L2 -3 bet doz. 1/3 3/3
14 2 L3 -9 bet doz. 1/3 4/4
28 3 w -5 wait
7
12
bet doz. 2/3 4/4
30 3 w -1 wait
36
9
16
20
13
bet doz. 2/3 4/4
11 1 L1 -9 bet doz 2/3 4/4
15 2 w -5 wait
33
34
19
27
bet doz. 2/3 4/4
22 2 w -1 wait
34
15
18
32
9
bet doz. 2/3 4/4
14 2 w +3 wait
36
9
36
23
27
bet doz. 2/3 1/1 RESET(we are in plus)
23 2 w +4 wait
0
33
23
4
22
bet doz. 2/3 1/1
36 3 w +5 wait
6
20
0
30
22
...................and so on.........
Corect me if I am wrong Hermes .
Example with LW strategy, trigger to bet W, stop at first L,
wait new trigger w and bet again....
Nr.
bet doz. 2/3 bet 1/1
27 3 w +1 wait
25
32
28
12
14
bet doz. 2/3 1/1
5 1 L -1 Wait trigger W
36
12
8
13
18
bet doz. 2/3 virtual
10 1 L
18
12
24
2
2
bet doz. 2/3 virtual
31 3 w trigger bet real doz. 2/3 bet 2/2
16 2 w +1 wait
16
11
24
32
bet doz. 2/3 1/1
10 1 L -1 wait trigger w
8
30
12
22
36
bet doz. 2/3 virtual
25 3 w Trigger , bet doz. 2/3 bet 2/2
9 1 L -5 wait trigger W
10
17
2
15
bet same ....2/3....1/1 virtual
23 2 w trigger bet doz. 2/3 bet 3/3
16 2 w -2 wait
33
18
5
31
bet doz. 2/3 bet 4/4
17 2 w +2 wait and RESET to 1/1
28
28
20
24
33
bet doz. 2/3 bet 1/1
28 3 w +3 wait
16
26
14
30
17
bet same....doz. 2/3...1/1
9 1 L +1 wait trigger w
9
2
34
24
27 ....and so on..........
Hermes correct me if necessary.
cheers
hi kattila, for a while now i've been thinking along the lines of betting against something happening rather than betting that it happens.
i suppose by definition, betting against something means that you're betting for something, but right now that's the way i feel!
with respect to hermes, the original poster, i wonder why we have to wait for a new series of 6 spins?
i mean if we're looking at series of 6, when do we know when they start and end? how do you know, that when you walk up to a table, you're walking up at a good or bad time in relation to the spin sequence?
with this in mind, i've been looking at resetting after a win (as long as we're in profit) and charting another 6 spins. after all we're betting against 112233 in any series of 6 spins, right?
i may be way off the mark here, but with this idea and using the leveller (not lw strategy), the profit on your first set of numbers vastly increases. this may be too aggressive but here goes.....
34 W +1 RESET
10 L -2
3 L-6
28 W -3
16 W +1 RESET
34 W +1 RESET
16 W +1 RESET
3 L -2
34 W 0
3 W +3 RESET
3 L -2
17 W 0
9 W +3 RESET
14 W +1 RESET
36 W +1 RESET
21 W +1 RESET
22 W +1 RESET
17 W +1 RESET
19 W +1 RESET
35 W +1 RESET
28 W +1 RESET
30 W +1 RESET
2 L -2
34 W 0
3 W +3 RESET
6 L -2
14 W 0
28 W +3 RESET
7 L -2
12 L -6
30 W -3
36 W +1 RESET
9 L -2
16 W 0
20 L -6
13 L -14
11 W -10
15 W -6
33 W -2
34 W +2 RESET
19 W +1 RESET
27 W +1 RESET
22 W +1 RESET
34 W +1 RESET
15 W +1 RESET
18 W +1 RESET
32 W +1 RESET
9 L -2
14 W 0
36 W +3 RESET
9 L -2
36 W 0
23 L -6
27 W -2
23 W +2 RESET
0 L -2
33 W 0
23 L -6
4 W -2
22 W +2 RESET
36 W +1 RESET
6 L -2
20 W 0
0 L -6
32 W -2
22 W +2 RESET
is this worth testing?
Quote from: ewarwoowar on Nov 13, 07:14 AM 2010
Hi kattila, for a while now i've been thinking along the lines of betting against something happening rather than betting that it happens.
i suppose by definition, betting against something means that you're betting for something, but right now that's the way I feel!
with respect to hermes, the original poster, I wonder why we have to wait for a new series of 6 spins?
i mean if we're looking at series of 6, when do we know when they start and end? how do you know, that when you walk up to a table, you're walking up at a good or bad time in relation to the spin sequence?
with this in mind, i've been looking at resetting after a win (as long as we're in profit) and charting another 6 spins. after all we're betting against 112233 in any series of 6 spins, right?
i may be way off the mark here, but with this idea and using the leveller (not lw strategy), the profit on your first set of numbers vastly increases. this may be too aggressive but here goes.....
34 W +1 RESET
10 L -2
3 L-6
28 W -3
16 W +1 RESET
34 W +1 RESET
16 W +1 RESET
3 L -2
34 W 0
3 W +3 RESET
3 L -2
17 W 0
9 W +3 RESET
14 W +1 RESET
36 W +1 RESET
21 W +1 RESET
22 W +1 RESET
17 W +1 RESET
19 W +1 RESET
35 W +1 RESET
28 W +1 RESET
30 W +1 RESET
2 L -2
34 W 0
3 W +3 RESET
6 L -2
14 W 0
28 W +3 RESET
7 L -2
12 L -6
30 W -3
36 W +1 RESET
9 L -2
16 W 0
20 L -6
13 L -14
11 W -10
15 W -6
33 W -2
34 W +2 RESET
19 W +1 RESET
27 W +1 RESET
22 W +1 RESET
34 W +1 RESET
15 W +1 RESET
18 W +1 RESET
32 W +1 RESET
9 L -2
14 W 0
36 W +3 RESET
9 L -2
36 W 0
23 L -6
27 W -2
23 W +2 RESET
0 L -2
33 W 0
23 L -6
4 W -2
22 W +2 RESET
36 W +1 RESET
6 L -2
20 W 0
0 L -6
32 W -2
22 W +2 RESET
is this worth testing?
I was also thinking that.
I like your idea. Looks promising but needs a couple of 1000' test. I use the 112233 because the formation comes seldom and is easy to overcome with progression and is easy to test because the test is visual. It takes longer to test your tweak but it is always worth to test. Edison did over 10,000 tests until it lighted in his bulb...
Test you tweak, I am curious what comes out. More brains more ideas.
Thanks Hermes
The problem is that you ewarwoowar didn't play Leveller. If you would play LW strategy it would be much more secure game. Otherwise, it could be played your way also. Only you played Barracuda progression, raised units each spin until in plus and reset. That's dangerous, isn't it?
Example how would look Leveller:
32 W +1 RESET
9 L -2 1/1 -2
14 W 0 2/2 0
36 W +3 RESET 2/2 +2 reset
9 L -2 1/1 -2
36 W 0 2/2 0
23 L -6 2/2 -4
27 W -2 4/4 0
23 W +2 RESET 4/4 +4 reset
0 L -2 1/1 -2
33 W 0 2/2 0
23 L -6 2/2 -4
4 W -2 4/4 0
22 W +2 RESET 4/4 +4 reset
36 W +1 RESET 1/1 +1 reset
6 L -2 1/1 -2
20 W 0 2/2 0
0 L -6 2/2 -4
32 W -2 4/4 0
22 W +2 RESET 4/4 +4 reset
For sure it is worth to test it!
Too many wars in your ID, aren't they? Who you fight next to casinos, wife?
Cheers Hermes
i used a 1/1, 2/2, 3/3 and 4/4 until ahead and then re-set, hermes.
i didn't use the lw strategy.
i've tested 4 more sessions using live dublinbet wheel, but i've also played columns at the same time.
i used a 40 unit stop loss, which came into effect once on the dozens.
the columns did ok during that session, so although i operated a stop loss at 40 units, the total loss for the session was 10 units.
session 1
49 spins, 22 units profit
session 2
53 spins, 22 units profit
session 3
37 spins, -10 units loss
session 4
25 spins, 27 units profit
probably a bit too agressive for some, but i'll test some more.
cheers.
i ran through some spins with the barracuda - now that WAS aggressive!!
That's called balancing if you play D/C at the same time. Smart idea but if many zeros come you lose even underwear.
Cheers Hermes
hahaha! i've just seen the ps on your post regarding my screen name.
it comes from an old joke regarding the actor edward woodward, which probably wouldn't translate too well!
cheers.
Quote from: Hermes on Nov 15, 06:08 PM 2010
That's called balancing if you play D/C at the same time. Smart idea but if many zeros come you lose even underwear.
Cheers Hermes
Then why not use something to cover Ur zero(s),
like U use Ur underwear to cover Ur bits up!!
Covering zeros steals lot of money from your bankroll. If the system is strong don't worry about zeros, especially if playing Euro roulette. It will roll over the zeros losses like barracuda.
Hermes
hi hermes ! what is LW strategy ? I cant understand this term. thanks.