The attachment speek for it self.
Pure flat bet with so much profit.
The question;
Which is more effective,betting 2 dozens vers.1 dozen----or 2 column vers.1 column
or betting last 24 numbers continuously??????
Personally never seen such success on 2 dozens or 2 columns bets.
Maybe cause 24 last numbers are difficult to track in the real game,ppl.are avoiding it,
but when you get used to it it is very simple.
Have you tryed bet the last 8 streets ,but bet only at this signal:
(LL... )LW...bet now, or after 3 Ls.
Or bet the last 4 lines, again only at the same signals.
Flat bet maybe will not work, but with some progression yes.
A.
+1 at loss / -1 at win per line (or street)
B.
leveller
0,20 / 0,40 / 1 / 2 per street , stay on top until in plus
0,50 / 1 / 2 / 4 per line , stay on top until in plus
Other thinks:
if we make any three A,B,C 12 numbers groups
and play AB,BC,AC round round, will see
long ::: streaks,too.
A,B,C can be the dozens, or the columns
or any three groups maked by streets, lines,etc...
?????
Hi Kattila,
Actually have tried all,even column 6 last crossings,as these
are all very easy to follow,but its first time am testing last 24
numbers spun.Have tested only few Wiesbaden sessions and it
shows great results.It seems groups of numbers are swapping
from sleepers to wakers and vice versa.Further more zero is in the play here too.
Why do you think it wouldn't work as a flat bet.Have you already tried this???
I was talking about 4 lines and 8 streets, not about the last 24 numbers.
i hope will work flat bet, i never try.
Thanks,
Then I will continue testing,and as I thought,this could be
something worth while and not enough explored cause of
its difficulties in tracking.Maybe we could hear something
from somebody that have tested this earlier.Would be much
appreciated.
Anybody of you test guys willing to put this on RX test,
as I find it very slow testing it by hand.
So far tested 7 Wiesbaden sessions all positive results.
Hi Flat, did you ever come to a conclusion regarding this type of betting, did you do more testing and found it to still be successful?
Thanks
MP
Wow!!
Maybe ophis can make a Gorgeous tracker for this.
It looks so promissing
Thx Flatino
Quote from: Midnight Player on May 11, 11:31 AM 2011
Hi Flat, did you ever come to a conclusion regarding this type of betting, did you do more testing and found it to still be successful?
Thanks
MP
I did play it last summer few times and really
won on each occasion.....but man its much easier talking about it
then playing it in B & M casino.When I was testing it last year on
DB it was easy here at my home with no ppl.interference like it
happens in casino,but there it is different story.You could test
some and you shall see potential of that method.
I tried this a few years ago,playing only if 24 differents numbers came out in less than 36 spins.
It's very often the case,but not all the time and in any case I stopped after a cycle of 36 spins.
I played only a few spins per cycle,in fact,and than I changed the table.
Not very simple to track,but I had quite good results.
Your post is convincing me to try again this system that I gave up.
Maybe I was wrong.
Have you any special trick for an easier way of tracking the game and a"rolling observation" of the 24 different numbers?
Thanks
Quote from: beretta28 on May 11, 12:38 PM 2011
Have you any special trick for an easier way of tracking the game and a"rolling observation" of the 24 different numbers?
Thanks
Flatino has a clue for this inside the attachement
Quote from: beretta28 on May 11, 12:38 PM 2011
I tried this a few years ago,playing only if 24 differents numbers came out in less than 36 spins.
It's very often the case,but not all the time and in any case I stopped after a cycle of 36 spins.
I played only a few spins per cycle,in fact,and than I changed the table.
Not very simple to track,but I had quite good results.
Your post is convincing me to try again this system that I gave up.
Maybe I was wrong.
Have you any special trick for an easier way of tracking the game and a"rolling observation" of the 24 different numbers?
Thanks
Yes I have,Berreta.
Find a suitable spreadsheet where you can write vertically 37 numbers,from 0-36-and after each spin you dott next to the number just spun untill you get 24 numbers----then start betting from smaller numbers/these dotts next to each number will help you alot/--if any of 24 spun numbers spins let the dot stay.....if one of 12 sleepers spins erase the furthest of 24 numbers and dott a new number....very simple...........will explain it when more timepl.remind me.
:thumbsup:
I will test in RX
Cheers
Jon
sry mates but this just isint working.
iboba you was lucky on those spins ;) and there is error somwhere in them it should end a bit lower ;)
anyway here are 2 graphs.
1st one is with the spins provided by flat
and second one is with spins from different time:
Permanenzen_SBWB_2011-01-06_T4
and most of the time graph looks like the second one.
and here is 10 000 life spins
Did try this a couple years back.Wasnt that bad as i recall.My only problem,in actual play table limit and bankroll :(
Quote from: ophis on May 11, 05:23 PM 2011
And here is 10 000 life spins
Hi Ophis mate,
Maybe 2up on a lose 1 down on a win could show better results.
First 5000 th.spins it was very much in plus.......other 5000 spins
I wouldn't play cause would be holidaying with the wins from
first 5000 spins........ :LoL: :LoL: :LoL:
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 12, 10:12 AM 2011
Hi Ophis mate,
Maybe 2up on a lose 1 down on a win could show better results.
First 5000 the.spins it was very much in plus.......other 5000 spins
I wouldn't play cause would be holidaying with the wins from
first 5000 spins........ :LoL: :LoL: :LoL:
LOL.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 12, 10:12 AM 2011
Hi Ophis mate,
Maybe 2up on a lose 1 down on a win could show better results.
First 5000 the.spins it was very much in plus.......other 5000 spins
I wouldn't play cause would be holidaying with the wins from
first 5000 spins........ :LoL: :LoL: :LoL:
by the way--just noticed on the graph after 10000 spins it
would only be in minus 18 bets,which means that on so many spins it would be a winner.
Ophis mate if you could provide us with a tracker as suggested 2+ 1- as
think it would be worth testing it further on such basis.Limit bet on each number
would be 250 standard EU limit on the number.And that would be a stop los.
Flat you are right about the progression i think,+2/-1 works better as the losing streaks are much less than the wining ones and when wins come one after the other you come back really easily if you are down. I think that it deserves much attention especially from On line players as it is very easily played and you can have some units gained in really short time and effort.
Quote from: xxlakis on May 12, 04:14 PM 2011
Flat you are right about the progression I think,+2/-1 works better as the losing streaks are much less than the wining ones and when wins come one after the other you come back really easily if you are down. I think that it deserves much attention especially from On line players as it is very easily played and you can have some units gained in really short time and effort.
I played this 2+ 1- today on airball/after tracking 24 numbers unique...but it was quick as just rewrited last 20 numb.from display board...and another 10 or so spins had 24/after it went very easy if repeats I click REBET,if it misses,I also click rebet,click the new number and erase the furthest one in my spreadsheet.Won ofcourse easely.
I just finished 2 sessions with CWB and this one each and i got +200 units and believe me i had REALLY bad results on the table but the progression helps a lot with a BR about 1000. I have tripled my original BR the past 5 days playing these 2 systems and while i bring to my mind all the sessions i had i was no lucky at all but i always come back on profit. The only problem i have is that i can't play them on live wheel online cause i can't place the bets in time when i use CWB!!!!So i use RNG(Will Hill) and as you read it's going well there too.
Quote from: xxlakis on May 13, 04:12 PM 2011
I just finished 2 sessions with consistent winning bet and this one each and I got +200 units and believe me I had REALLY bad results on the table but the progression helps a lot with a BR about 1000. I have tripled my original BR the past 5 days playing these 2 systems and while I bring to my mind all the sessions I had I was no lucky at all but I always come back on profit. The only problem I have is that I can't play them on live wheel online cause I can't place the bets in time when I use consistent winning bet!!!!So I use RNG(Will Hill) and as you read it's going well there too.
Haven't you rebet Button there.If you lose rebet,erase the furthest
and include in the bet new spun number.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 12, 12:52 PM 2011
Ophis mate if you could provide us with a tracker as suggested 2+ 1- as
think it would be worth testing it further on such basis.Limit bet on each number
would be 250 standard EU limit on the number.And that would be a stop-loss.
Flat I got it ready but I wont release it yet.
It will be implemented in Multi System Tracker which will be released soon (with included clickor so u dont have to click 24 times to bet).
PS: 250 units per number? Does table limit affect only single number or entire bet placed on table? like 250/numbers to bet?
Quote from: ophis on May 15, 03:46 PM 2011
Flat I got it ready but I wont release it yet.
It will be implemented in Multi System Tracker which will be released soon (with included clickor so you don't have to click 24 times to bet).
PS: 250 units per number? Does table limit affect only single number or entire bet placed on table? like 250/numbers to bet?
--Only single number,you can bet 36x250...you didn't pass the limit.Thanks mate
If you have reached units limit (250) then should it reset to 1 or stay at 250?
Quote from: ophis on May 21, 01:00 PM 2011
If you have reached units limit (250) then should it reset to 1 or stay at 250?
[/quoteIn that case, reaching limit 250....would buy some good string
to hung my....... picture.....LOL...it would mean it tanked and doesn't work.
LoL flat :)
its losing anyway on lots of spins.
+1 on lose/-2 on win
or
+2 on lose/-1 on win
does not matter.
well you will see soon after MST will be out.
either way I will make it to stay at 250 if it reaches it.
im asking because you will be able to set up:
-ammount of numbers to bet
-prog on lose
-prog on win
-max unit size
so you will be able to set max unit size on 10 for example.... so i need to know what should it do when it reaches max.
Quote from: ophis on May 21, 02:20 PM 2011
LoL flat :)
its losing anyway on lots of spins.
+1 on lose/-2 on win
or
+2 on lose/-1 on win
does not matter.
well you will see soon after MST will be out.
either way I will make it to stay at 250 if it reaches it.
I'm asking because you will be able to set up:
-ammount of numbers to bet
-prog on lose
-prog on win
-max unit size
so you will be able to set max unit size on 10 for example.... so I need to know what should it do when it reaches max.
In that case let it continue stay at max...until it recovers-IF-and if it happens reducing it as it wins.I can't find any other solution.
guys try to make it hit-n-run, it will sure lose on many spins in a row, any method will
Quote from: iggiv on May 22, 01:09 AM 2011
Guys try to make it hit-n-run, it will sure lose on many spins in a row, any method will
Am aware of it iggiv,Thats why I will test this on daily sessions
of past actuals.
yes, that's way to go.
I am testing too.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 11, 01:34 PM 2011
Yes I have,Berreta.
Find a suitable spreadsheet where you can write vertically 37 numbers,from 0-36-and after each spin you dott next to the number just spun until you get 24 numbers----then start betting from smaller numbers/these dotts next to each number will help you a lot/--if any of 24 spun numbers spins let the dot stay.....if one of 12 sleepers spins erase the furthest of 24 numbers and dott a new number....very simple...........will explain it when more timepl.remind me.
How can I remember which one is the furthest ???
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 23, 12:05 PM 2011
Here are new rules --staking plan--to avoid
large drowndowns.
And this is proper attachement as in other one
was typo error.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO link=topic=225. msg53436#msg53436 date=1306257873
And this is proper attachement as in other one
was typo error.
I don't get it, how come in this attachment when we trigger and bet 3 units and loose the loss is stil -24?
Quote from: Gregor on May 25, 01:42 PM 2011
I don't get it, how come in this attachment when we trigger and bet 3 units and lose the loss is stil -24?
Very pleased that you have noticed it/a member with 7 posts/
congratulations mate....meaning that you are seriously folloving the thread.
Yes ofcourse it was done on purpose just to check up how this is a waste of
my precious time.
This system in now coded in to Multi System Tracker.
for further details please visit:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/mst-project/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/mst-project/)