Ok, the end of the year is near and who will win the "System of the Year". *Note: this was popular at the old VLS and wondered if Victor would do it again this year.
Good thread I like it. I guess we would have to go through (and post a list by name) all methods posted this year before making a decision.
Best wishes,
CashGrowth.
Any minute now, Jordan will be posting.
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Nov 14, 03:28 PM 2010
Any minute now, Jordan will be posting.
Ken
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-X
The most frequent systems are written by Kattila, Hermes, Jordon, MrJ and GLC. All of them have more than 20 systems to their credit. Those who want to be nominated---One system each author should be picked and nominated by the author himself for "the system of the year" and winner system should be selected by Voting and should be made sticky for the next year till being replaced by next winner system.
This would be a reward for system writing and research work and will encourage more innovative ideas to appear in writing.
Here's a perk. The winning system gets it programmed for the other users to use easily. (Like Roulette Sniper--How's that sound?)
Carsch, Warrior, Flat_Ino, kingspin and proofreader have also provided good number of systems. There are some "My holy GRAIL" type systems also.There are some members who have written only 1 or 2 systems. There are some members who have nothing original to write and they copied and pasted ABC's system and XYZ's system. Still it is a contribution for our forum :lol: It could be an interesting contest.
the perk could be say a weeks use of victors tipping tool for free ?? loool
hamsup
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Like any award, it should be based on quality and not necessary quantity.
Should we the members draw up a list of criteria first to judge the entrants from?
Such as-
..easy of use.
..clearly explained instructions.
..follow up customer (member) service.
..how well the system adapted to changes suggested by the members (users)
..scope of the system.
..potential winning (profit)
..does it have an interface (and how good is that interface/tool)
..does it work.
..can it make the coffee>
..how long did the system take to become widely used.
Please think about Ur own criteria, and lets have a consensus on it.
some more considerable criteria could be:
1. Bankroll required
2. Maximum drawdown possible
3. Average yield
4. Whether any stop loss and loss recovery suggested or not?
Quote from: chrisbis on Nov 15, 11:58 PM 2010
Please think about your own criteria
( ) Wins.
( ) Doesn't win.
:)
My early vote is...GLC.
Ken
Yeah gotta say my vote goes to GLC! He is always helpful to the members of the forum and NEVER whinges! Forever testing other peoples systems and always positive. He has given me great advice and is putting lots of hard work in. Keep it going mate, you will always inspire me with your ideas and systems.
Karen
The last two people have voted for a PERSON and not a method. Lol. My vote would have to go to the Vortex System by Hermes. It has worked for me flawlessly and I am greatly appreciative of him posting it.
Dear Victor,
Why don't you nominate 10 systems by seeing the viewership and positive comments of the users? Later, best system can be voted by the members within a week,
No question it's F_LAT_INO's "Promised Constant Winning Bet"! :thumbsup:
As a side note, I say we ban hoper335's avatar. :'( :o It's giving me nightmares. :lol:
Just kidding. I'll survive. ::)
GLC
Quote from: GLC on Nov 20, 02:38 PM 2010
No question it's F_LAT_INO's "Promised Constant Winning Bet"! :thumbsup:
GLC
I second that 100% :thumbsup:
And I'll third that, with a medal for assist for the fabulous coder OPHIS
FLAT WINS THIS ONE THE COSTANT BET, AND RED AND BLACK TRIGGERS FROM THE 3RD COLUM AND SECOND COLUM
I think that the method with maximum reported success and least loss should be given this award. Can someone point out which system/method has most successful trials?
Not to mention Fender's Dozens System earlier this year.
And didn't Winkel do something new?
Sometimes I dont like these questions and I'll tell ya why. Whoever 'wins' this, afterwards, some goof will say he RXed it and it lost 4 million dollars. :o So the 'winner' ends up looking like a loser anyways. Not slamming anyone, just saying thats what always ends up happening.
Ken
I have a suggestion. No RX testings. RX is in the nature of RNG. Please test good systems upon any real game sessions spin data. There are plenty of them. Do not forget Steve's million dollar challenge upon it. There is world of difference between popping any number randomly and real outputs by wheel and ball.
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Quote from: albalaha on Nov 18, 11:23 PM 2010
Dear Victor,
Why don't you nominate 10 systems by seeing the viewership and positive comments of the users? Later, best system can be voted by the members within a week,
Actually, I would like to see more in the "roulette competition" fashion, on which methods would be tested over -say- 50 or 100 sessions and then the winner would be chosen among categories!
i.e. most % of bankroll won in average, most completed winning sessions in a row, and other categories related to parameters for actual play!
Obviously the best method would surface naturally :)
Why rank and rate them at all? The world is obsessed with competition.
Why can't people just post their systems that they have spent time developing, and generously donated for the benefit of others, without the threat of being potentially publicly humiliated by the results of the votes?
Persist in running this comparison and don't be surprised if the number of systems posted in future declines.
I have a couple of profitable systems that I've developed over many hours of trial-and-error that I was going to offer to the forum. Notice my use of the past tense was....
Not happy about the idea at all.
Quote from: esoito on Nov 28, 06:12 PM 2010
Why rank and rate them at all? The world is obsessed with competition.
Why can't people just post their systems that they have spent time developing, and generously donated for the benefit of others, without the threat of being potentially publicly humiliated by the results of the votes?
Persist in running this comparison and don't be surprised if the number of systems posted in future declines.
Not happy about the idea at all.
Same thoughts about it here.
Quote from: esoito on Nov 28, 06:12 PM 2010
Why rank and rate them at all? The world is obsessed with competition.
Why can't people just post their systems that they have spent time developing, and generously donated for the benefit of others, without the threat of being potentially publicly humiliated by the results of the votes?
Persist in running this comparison and don't be surprised if the number of systems posted in future declines.
I have a couple of profitable systems that I've developed over many hours of trial-and-error that I was going to offer to the forum. Notice my use of the past tense was....
Not happy about the idea at all.
Couldn't say better !
:thumbsup:
Its not about ranking Es.
Its about recognition for a good job done.
So ANYONE who has posted a system/method that a majority of players like using/reading/discussing/testing, is worthy of a note of excellence in the pass year or so.
its not a Noble Prize for Roulette or a Booker/Man award, its just the community, and only the community, passing praise, in one stop-shop place, and saying..................
Hey man (insert fellow members name........), well done for posting up something that the community has seen fit to award a merit.
If ANYTHING, Es, it should ENCOURAGE new posts, new members, and a new radical forum rethink on how we all present things in the future.
I can personally see, new Topics (non chocolate even), new sections, and greater integration of the forum, as it proceeds forward into a new year.
A New Year of renewed hope, greater vision, wider scope and possible driving the standards of Roulette Casino gaming for Years to come.
This place, could really be a driving force, in the way forums should be run, the way posting of new members, new ideas, and yes, new systems should be done, and serve as a Model,
for others who wish in the coming months/years/decades, to open up the debate on the whole gaming world.
@ Chrisbis
"Its not about ranking Es."
Of course it's about ranking!!!
How else can a verdict be reached in deciding "The Roulette Method of the Year"?
There remains also the potential for public humiliation.
Like I say -- not happy.
[As an aside I thought much of what you wrote in the rest of your post was very sound and positive...still love ya!]
It is now in the formate that POSTING STATS are being used yes, but I assumed,
the whole idea was about recognition, not who came first, who second, who third,
but more.............. F lat Ino.... & Ophis............did a great Job with the Promised............
and ......................XXVV kept up the whole Matrix thingy mer-bob going......................
and .....................Katti/Drog/Proof/Others provided the forum with some in-depth, thought provoking systems, whilst everyone was searching for a Jack or Queen or Two!!
That the sort of mentions I assumed we would be getting.
(Not to forget GLC)
Every member has a favourite.
A favourite post they read,
A favourite Topic they always dive straight into when they log on
A favourite member who they like to e=read the latest info from
A favourite moment in the year (Roulette Forum.cc year that is)
So you would rather, no-one mentions their favourites would U, no "measurement" of the effort= no-one can get upset....................is that how you view it Esoito?
Don't forget that there are loads of people who probably read this forum without ever posting. So speaking for myself, I would not take it personal if I did not get voted for anything.
We all contribute in our own way. It takes a lot of different personalities to make a great forum. It would be a shame for everybody involved if people stopped posting ideas because they felt a bit left out. I am sure all of us who voice our opinions have our fans and hecklers out there, LoL.
As far as the comp goes, it is fair to say that Flat and Ophis have spent a lot of time with fellow members trying to help them understand the CONSTANT WINNING METHOD and do indeed deserve some special praise.
Let's not let personal feelings get in the way of creating an even better forum which can all help turn us into better players. :thumbsup:
It is worthwhile to do some form or another of system testing. Just to have published a method does not mean there is a guarantee. There are never guarantees and that is implicit.
For what the author is concerned to get feedback and tweaks to improve the system originally published is his gain.
To user Esoito: feel free not to publish the systems, but I do not believe you do it for the right reasons. Avoiding publishing a method because it gets tested in the forum can not be the right reason.
We really have to put things in perspective. Roulette is a game with negative expectancy which is expected to lose in the long term. I can honestly say there is no shame in publishing as all systems are subject to a matched field at -2.7% expectation.
There is only community gains to post a method for further examination and tweaking. It can start or branch into something good for others as it has happened in the past.
Greetings.
WannaWin
Just to be clear: I'm all in favour of public recognition and public thanks to the Roulette Method posters.
I'm just not in favour at all of ranking them into winners/non-winners.
In stating that I'm simpy addressing some of the phrases already used in this discussion such as:
"...who will win the "System of the Year..."
"...and winner system should be selected by Voting ..."
"The winning system gets..."
...and so on...
But, on reflection, I've no objection to a contest for those that want to be in it.
But at the moment they are not being asked.
Suggestion 1:
ASK the roulette Method posters FIRST if they want to be entered into the contest.
If yes, then fine. Carry on.
If no, then that's OK. They don't want to be in the contest and their wishes must be respected.
At the moment nobody seems to have thought of extending the courtesy of ASKING them first...
And now we have the solution for it.
I agree with Esoito, the roulette method poster should be informed first.
Suggestion 2:
1 Announce the contest.
2 INVITE those that want to be in it to give their permission for their Method/system to be entered into the contest.
In that way only those that want to be in it enter the contest with their eyes open.
Quote from: esoito on Nov 28, 08:29 PM 2010
Suggestion 2:
1 Announce the contest.
2 INVITE those that want to be in it to give their permission for their Method/system to be entered into the contest.
In that way only those that want to be in it enter the contest with their eyes open.
Fair enough!
P.S. This thread is all about suggestions. Thread starter suggested VOTING, and I literally said: "I
would like to see more..."
We are just suggesting, friendly :)
In my perception, it is not a contest or competition but merely recognition of the best effort. The proposed "method of the year" should be tested upon 10 different sessions having 100 spins each and the best performing system can be conferred this title and made sticky for entire year till next year a new method takes over. Simple.
Quote from: Droganson link=topic=2319. msg21991#msg21991 date=1289945183
The last two people have voted for a PERSON and not a method. LoL. My vote would have to go to the Vortex System by Hermes. It has worked for me flawlessly and I am greatly appreciative of him posting it.
could you plz give me a link for vortex system? thanks a lot.
Quote from: albalaha on Nov 28, 09:17 PM 2010
In my perception, it is not a contest or competition but merely recognition of the best effort. The proposed "method of the year" should be tested upon 10 different sessions having 100 spins each and the best performing system can be conferred this title and made sticky for entire year till next year a new method takes over. Simple.
I add my vote to this method of selecting a system.
I don't think the system author should nominate the system.
As a matter of fact, the system author should have nothing to with the process except they should have veto rights if they don't want their system nominated. I can't imagine this could be an option, but someone might not want their system considered.
It would be great, if the forum can have some sort of "voting" system where in the members can vote for the system that they consider the best.
Voting system would be great!!!
Quote from: Ron on Dec 24, 02:00 PM 2010
could you plz give me a link for vortex system? thanks a lot.
link:://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/vortex-roulette-system/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/vortex-roulette-system/)
:thumbsup:
My Roulette Method of the Year goes to:-
Everyone who took the time, effort and energy to Log-in, Read, Post, Log-out.
Well done chaps, on what can only be described as an awesome Year.
(past 4 months for me)
Happy New Year To All members (and yes U 2 VIP/Jordan), and to all our visiting guests.
See U all in 2011. A year when Victor has a momentous date with number destiny!!!
(it has nothing to do with the Tipping TooL either!)
:)
:-*
Don't forget to bring the coal lump through the front door just after midnight and welcome the New Year into Ur home wherever that maybe.
Oh, and maybe a wee dram of Ur favourite tipple with ye too. CHEERS!!
And since I was stopped today in a breath test road check- all clear BTW, please, please,
do not even think of DRINKING, AND DRIVING - EVER. (it is so not worth it)
No vote for me - i just which you all a new happy year and enjoy the game :)
I just feel personally that i have so much knowledge, so i don't care so much about who has the biggest balls heehaw just joking - take care all :)