perfect 10 was test on 3500 live spin total 7 losses, very simple bet we have a tracking bet and then we have the results,win loss and we will be betting on the opposite results ,we use DECISION BEFORE LAST AND FOLLOW THE LAST TO TRACK.
the progression is the pyramid system 1
2
3
5-3
8-5
12-8
17-12-8 and so on or the find what suits you,on a win stay the same on a loss go up 1 and back one on a win until even or in profit if im in profit with casino money i never use progression just flat bet with their money try to biuld bank roll .now the bet is simple track like this
DD FF D-D FF DD
ww ll ll l ww lw 1st spin win i bet the opposite result game over track 5 more spins.
FF DD FF DD FF
ll ll l-w ll ll 1st spin win done betting
dd ff D-D FF DD
ll ll l-l ll ww 4th spin win game over
now depending on your bank roll you can go ten games i am happy with 2 -4 unit profit and im done usally i do not finish 10 games unless it starts out negative then i will go through my ten or until profit lost 7 games in 3500 spin and ,when tracking 5 more spins after my loss i would hit within the 6 and 7 spin .you can always tremble your bet on those 6 and 7th.
FF DD F-F DD FF
ww ll w-w ww 3rd spin game over
if a zero appears while tracking i ignore it ,if it appears while im in attack mode i take it as a loss and continue with the sequence, your spread sheet looks like this prior entering the casino
GAME 1 DD FF DD FF DD
GAME 2 FF DD FF DD FF
GAME 3 DD FF DD FF DD
GAME 4 FF DD FF DD FF
GAME 5 DD FF DD FF DD
GAME 6 FF DD FF DD FF
GAME 7 DD FF DD FF DD
GAME 8 FF DD FF DD FF
GAME 9 DD FF DD FF DD
GAME 10 FF DD FF DD FF
SO GIVE IT A SHOT WARRIOR.
Quote from: warrior on Jun 04, 09:29 AM 2010
perfect 10 was test on 3500 live spin total 7 losses, very simple bet we have a tracking bet and then we have the results,win loss and we will be betting on the opposite results ,we use DECISION BEFORE LAST AND FOLLOW THE LAST TO TRACK.
the progression is the pyramid system -1
2
3
5-3
8-5
12-8
17-12-8 and so on or the find what suits you,on a win stay the same on a loss go up 1 and back one on a win until even or in profit if im in profit with casino money I never use progression just flat bet with their money try to biuld bankroll .now the bet is simple track like this
DD FF D-D FF DD
ww ll ll l ww lw 1st spin win I bet the opposite result game over track 5 more spins.
FF DD FF DD FF
ll ll l-w ll ll 1st spin win done betting
dd ff D-D FF DD
ll ll l-l ll ww 4th spin win game over
now depending on your bankroll you can go ten games I am happy with 2 -4 unit profit and im done usally I do not finish 10 games unless it starts out negative then I will go through my ten or until profit lost 7 games in 3500 spin and ,when tracking 5 more spins after my loss I would hit within the 6 and 7 spin .you can always tremble your bet on those 6 and 7th.
FF DD F-F DD FF
ww ll w-w ww 3rd spin game over
if a zero appears while tracking I ignore it ,if it appears while im in attack mode I take it as a loss and continue with the sequence, your spread sheet looks like this prior entering the casino
GAME 1 DD FF DD FF DD
GAME 2 FF DD FF DD FF
GAME 3 DD FF DD FF DD
GAME 4 FF DD FF DD FF
GAME 5 DD FF DD FF DD
GAME 6 FF DD FF DD FF
GAME 7 DD FF DD FF DD
GAME 8 FF DD FF DD FF
GAME 9 DD FF DD FF DD
GAME 10 FF DD FF DD FF
SO GIVE IT A SHOT WARRIOR.
Hi Warrior,
Thanks for the system. But I'm not sure what we are betting on exactly or when?
BW
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jun 04, 10:13 AM 2010
Hi Warrior,
Thanks for the system. But I'm not sure what we are betting on exactly or when?
BW
HEY BUFFALOWIZARD your betting on the opposite of the results so if your tracking DD FF D-D FF DD AND THE RESULTS ARE
ll ww l-l w wwll my bet wins on the 2nd spin opposite of the first bet result which was an L on the dd tracking so on the 6th spin my bet would be F because the FIRST SPIN ON THE D WAS AN L SO i lost that bet, my second bet would be on F AND THE RESULT IS W SECOND SPIN I WON GAME OVER TRACK 5 MOR SPINS I hope that makes sense.warriorl
Quote from: warrior on Jun 04, 10:26 AM 2010
HEY BUFFALOWIZARD your betting on the opposite of the results so if your tracking DD FF D-D FF DD AND THE RESULTS ARE
ll ww l-l w wwll my bet wins on the 2nd spin opposite of the first bet result which was an L on the dd tracking so on the 6th spin my bet would be F because the FIRST SPIN ON THE D WAS AN L SO I lost that bet, my second bet would be on F AND THE RESULT IS W SECOND SPIN I WON GAME OVER TRACK 5 MOR SPINS I hope that makes sense.warriorl
I half understand it ???
But what is DD? and FF?
Thanks,
A.
ok make it simple.
r
r track here
r D W
bD L
r F L
b F L
b D L
r D L first spin wins L the first D ON THE TRAKING WAS A W OPPOSITE OF THE FIRST.
r f W
B f L
r D W
b D L
r
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 04, 10:35 AM 2010
I half understand it ???
But what is DD? and FF?
Thanks,
A.
ATLANTIS DD FF MEANS decision before last and follow the last.
Hi warrior,
Thanks. I got it now. 8)
A.
Quote from: warrior on Jun 04, 11:01 AM 2010
ATLANTIS DD FF MEANS decision before last and follow the last.
Should be=DBL and LD.
btw-SEEN IT SOMEWHERE,and alone it doesn't win,but with
penultimate/DBL/and opposite/united/versus streaks it could.
But again one should know how to do it.
MY FIRST SESSION
DD FF D-D FF DD
ww ww l-l first spin win did not reapeat 1st game over
FF DD F-F DD FF
l wwl l -w 1st spin game over +2 unit
Hi Warrior,
Here is my first session
DD FF D - D FF DD
wl ww w - l = won on first spin +1 (DBL did not repeat)
FF DD F - F DD FF
l l l w l - w = won on first spin +1 (FTL did not lose)
I bet the OPPOSITE of the first result and won on the first bet in both games.
A.
This was my session this afternoon .
DD FF D-D FF DD
wl wl w-l ll ll 1ST hit dbl lost
FF DD F-F DD FF
ll wl l- w ww ww 1st hit ftl did not repeat
DD FF D-D FF DD
lw ll w- wl w ll 1st hit
FF DD F-F DD FF
wl :-lllll 1st hit +4units end of session
DD FF D-D FF DD
:ww-:ll 4thhit
FF DD F-F DD FF
wl ww l- lwll l 1sthit
DD FF D-D FF DD
wl ww w-w ll wl 3rd hit
FF DD F-F DD FF
wl lw w-l w lll 1st hit
DD FF D-D FF DD
wl :-w ll ll 3rd hit
FF DD F-F DD FF
ll ww w- ll ll l 3rd hit perfect 10.
Warrior,
When you win a spin but are still behind in units, do you stop and retrack before you place your next bet or do you continue betting on the next spin?
Quote from: dennisbelle on Jun 04, 09:15 PM 2010
Warrior,
When you win a spin but are still behind in units, do you stop and retrack before you place your next bet or do you continue betting on the next spin?
Yes stop and track i have not seen 2 losses in row , of 5 spins repeat of a seqeunce ther has been 7 losses in 3500 spins , a loss of 5 bets followed by a win on the next tracking game within the 5 and 6 spin you can recoupe your losses .
Hi Warrior,
Had a perfect 10 game session in my first test today on wiesbaden spins for 02 JUNE 2010
Never went above 3rd bet.
Cheers,
Atlantis.
My perfect 10 results on double zero wheel (Zumma roulette tester book). I did 11 games actually because I wasn't in profit for the 10th game.
Win on spin number.
3
1
2
1
1
4
1
1
1
5
2
MY session today and still in profit ,i will post all my session good and bad no sugar coating results. i flat bet with my profits not my bank.
game 1 1st spin +1
game 2 2nd spin even
game 3 1st +2
game 4 1st +3
game 5 4th +1 i hit a 0 but continued with the sequence
game 6 3rd -2
game 7 2nd even went in my proggy
game 8 2nd +1
game9 2nd +2
game 10 2nd +2 so as you can see i flat bet unless in minus safe way depending on bank you can use a proggy and still come out ahead.
Quote from: dennisbelle on Jun 05, 03:34 PM 2010
My perfect 10 results on double zero wheel (Zumma roulette tester book). I did 11 games actually because I wasn't in profit for the 10th game.
Win on spin number.
3
1
2
1
1
4
1
1
1
5
2
dennisbell i would of ended my session on your 5 game with a a +4.build bank roll first .
Promising result from casino wiesbaden 4 Jun 2010 - table 3
Single 0 - using "le partage"
won on 2nd +1 +1
won on 2nd +1 +2
won on 1st +1 +3
won on 1st +1 +4
won on 3rd -1 +3 (hit a 0 carried on; half-stake return)
won on 1st +2 +5 (recovered)
won on 4th -2 +3
won on 1st +3 +6 (recovered)
won on 1st +1 +7
won on 1st +1 +8
won on 1st +1 +9
won on 1st +1 +10
+10
Am using progression/recovery method. (1-2-4-5-6-7....)
Cheers,
A.
Hi Warrior,
I played it for real money today in online casino using 10p units and won 2 sets of 10 games.
Luckily I am playing a roulette game that allows you to spin even if you do not bet. Very handy. Unfortunately all outside evens chances are entirely lost if 0 occurs... :(
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 06, 09:37 AM 2010
Hi Warrior,
I played it for real money today in online casino using 10p units and won 2 sets of 10 games.
Luckily I am playing a roulette game that allows you to spin even if you do not bet. Very handy. Unfortunately all outside evens chances are entirely lost if 0 occurs... :(
A. im glad to here you won 2 games, about the 0 all bets are subject to loseing ,but in my testing i came more 0 in the tracking then when im in attack mode ,i just continue with my sequence .cheers.
Hi Warrior,
Quote
about the 0 all bets are subject to loseing ,but in my testing I came more 0 in the tracking then when im in attack mode ,I just continue with my sequence
Yes - that is how I do it too.
I can play a single 10p unit (min. stake) on the EC's - so no big dangers/risk.. I am using the strategy tracking the Red/Black and have not yet tried it on other chances.
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 06, 09:51 AM 2010
Hi Warrior,
Yes - that is how I do it too.
I can play a single 10p unit (min. stake) on the EC's - so no big dangers/risk.. I am using the strategy tracking the Red/Black and have not yet tried it on other chances.
A.
im thinking it would be the same on the other even chances in my experience they behave the same.
Atlantis,
Since you won this sequence on the 3rd spin and you are using a 1-2-4 progression wouldn't you be at +1 for this sequence because you won the 4 unit bet?
won on 3rd -1 +3 (hit a 0 carried on; half-stake return)
Quote from: dennisbelle on Jun 06, 12:52 PM 2010
Atlantis,
Since you won this sequence on the 3rd spin and you are using a 1-2-4 progression wouldn't you be at +1 for this sequence because you won the 4 unit bet?
won on 3rd -1 +3 (hit a 0 carried on; half-stake return)
Hi dennisbelle,
On that game I lost the first bet of 1 = -1
Lost the second bet of 2 = -3
And got a 0 on the third bet of 4 = -5 (half-stake returns; 2 units)
I repeated bet 3 at 4 units and WON = -1
STOP
So I was overall down 1 pt on that game
I played 2 units on the first bet of the next game and it hit so I won 2 pts (1pt for the previous game and 1 pt for the current game)
STOP
A.
UPDATE: Just played another REAL session and got the perfect 10 (in 11 games; one was a recovery game) Funny how the wins just seem to drop in :)
SESSION TODAY started a bit rough got caught with a left hook but no knock out
1 = 1 +1
2= loss sequence repeat-11 using pyramid proggy two losses in a row never seen it yet.
3= 1 -3
4= 3-4
5 = 1+1
6 = 1+2
7 = 2+2 flat bet because im in +
8 =4 +1 two first bets flat bet went in second proggy.
9 =2 +1
10=2+1 end of session+1 unit but i did not lose ,i always flat bet if im in +
had to go through my 10 games its started out rough cheers .
I am sorry. I want to understand, but I am confused with all the rules and D's and F's. Could someone explain this system again?
O. K. I read through again carefully. I do understand now. Seems very safe. I'll try it.
Keel
Quote from: keel44 on Jun 07, 02:19 AM 2010
I am sorry. I want to understand, but I am confused with all the rules and D's and F's. Could someone explain this system again?
Keel
Same here,it just looks a complete mess to me. All of this FF DD nonsense what the hell does that mean.
I thank people for posting systems here but please try and make them a bit clearer so its easy to understand how they actually work . :(
Quote from: moles40 on Jun 07, 06:26 AM 2010
Same here,it just looks a complete mess to me. All of this FF DD nonsense what the hell does that mean.
I thank people for posting systems here but please try and make them a bit clearer so its easy to understand how they actually work . :(
MOLES DD FF MEANS decision before last in other wor DBL DBL the THE FF means follow the last decision FTL FTL . when testing on paper it was just faster to put DD FF DD.
ok FOR EVERY ONE dd ff dd ff means or dbl dbl ld ld decision before last or penultimate, and follow the last desion ok .after 5 desions of tracking bet the opposite of the results not to repeat ok .all the best to every one and forget about luck THATS FOR THE UN PREPARED.
Quote from: warrior on Jun 07, 07:57 AM 2010
ok FOR EVERY ONE dd ff dd ff means or dbl dbl ld ld decision before last or penultimate, and follow the last desion ok .after 5 desions of tracking bet the opposite of the results not to repeat ok .all the best to every one and forget about luck that's FOR THE UN PREPARED.
But that is a kind of new terminology that confuse ppl.
never seen such enywhere before.
8) 8)
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Jun 07, 08:34 AM 2010
But that is a kind of new terminology that confuse people.
never seen such enywhere before.
8) 8)
FLAT i know like you i dont have rx everything is done pen and paper ,it was just a faster way for me to right instead of the DBL DBL FTL FTL TRY DOING THAT FOR 3500 spins i know i could put on a spread sheet.
well today was an easy session.
1=1 +1
2=2 +1
3=1 +2
4=1 +3
5=2 +3 still flat betting.
6=2 +3
7=1 +4 end of my session 4 unit profit.
8=3 +3
9=3 +2
10=1 +3 flat bet only no proggy this session.
You should keep posting your sessions. We need to see if this really works. I am convinced it does. I would like to see if it would fail. It seems rather amazing that you keep getting hits on the very first try. Any reason for this? Why does this work?
KEEL
THATS WHY im posting, when im in the casino and trying this i would rather lose then some else lose i dont need that KARMA SO PLEASE TEST THIS FIRST DONT JUST GO PLAY IT BLINDLY.
Hi,
About the FF and DD - I already asked that question much earlier in the thread. It is just shorthand for DBL and FTL. So that mystery was already cleared up a while back... The results are TRUE and not imaginary and they speak for themselves. This method has really got something going for it. Very ingenious. Once you get the hang of it and try it for yourself I think you will be pleasantly surprised. :)
It's worth the effort. Thanks, Warrior.
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 07, 12:18 PM 2010
Hi,
About the FF and DD - I already asked that question much earlier in the thread. It is just shorthand for DBL and FTL. So that mystery was already cleared up a while back... The results are TRUE and not imaginary and they speak for themselves. This method has really got something going for it. Very ingenious. Once you get the hang of it and try it for yourself I think you will be pleasantly surprised. :)
It's worth the effort. Thanks, Warrior.
A.YOUR WELCOME
Quote from: keel44 on Jun 07, 12:09 PM 2010
You should keep posting your sessions. We need to see if this really works. I am convinced it does. I would like to see if it would fail. It seems rather amazing that you keep getting hits on the very first try. Any reason for this? Why does this work?
KEEL
Keel dear,
When I read somebodys posted method I'm inclined to test it myself,and that's the best and only way to see if it works or not.Why don't you try to test it personally with
some Wiesbaden past spins and you will sure find out.....Don't wish to be cruel but
this is getting rather sad.
test: casino wiesbaden 06 Jun 2010 - table 3
won1st +1
won1st +1
won1st +1
won4th -0.5 (3 zero's in a row bet 1,2 and 3! -stayed at bet of 1; half-stake returns)
won2nd +1
won2nd +1
won2nd +1
won1st +1
won1st +1
won1st +1
10 games +8.5pts
A marvelous result.
Cheers,
A.
Did a real money test at online casino just now--using 10p units
I did get ONE total loss game (-18) but won on the 4th bet of the next game. Managed to recover from there to go +10 profit but it took me some extra games to do it.
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 07, 02:34 PM 2010
Did a real money test at online casino just now--using 10p units
I did get ONE total loss game (-18) but won on the 4th bet of the next game. Managed to recover from there to go +10 profit but it took me some extra games to do it.
A.
ATLANTIS can i see your results please.
Hi Warrior,
I checked my online casino history for this game now, and this is what happened and how I staked it. (remember I am playing in 10p units)
result. w/l. +/-
============
won3rd +1 +1
won2nd +1 +2
won2nd +1 +3
won2nd +1 +4
won2nd +1 +5
won1st +1 +6
won1st +1 +7
won1st +1 +8
lost5th -18 -10 (1-2-4-5-6 =18)
won5th -23 -33 (7-8-9-10-11)
won1st +12 -21 (12)
won1st +13 -8 (13)
won2nd +1 -7 (14-15)
won1st +14 +7 (14)
won2nd +1 +8
won2nd +1 +9
won1st +1 +10
+10
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 07, 06:07 PM 2010
Hi Warrior,
I checked my online casino history for this game now, and this is what happened and how I staked it. (remember I am playing in 10p units)
result. w/l. +/-
============
won3rd +1 +1
won2nd +1 +2
won2nd +1 +3
won2nd +1 +4
won2nd +1 +5
won1st +1 +6
won1st +1 +7
won1st +1 +8
lost5th -18 -10 (1-2-4-5-6 =18)
won5th -23 -33 (7-8-9-10-11)
won1st +12 -21 (12)
won1st +13 -8 (13)
won2nd +1 -7 (14-15)
won1st +14 +7 (14)
won2nd +1 +8
won2nd +1 +9
won1st +1 +10
+10
A.
Thanks for the results you were at +8 before your ninth game i would of never gone below +4, i alway stop +4 but thats just me i hate to give all profits back my goal is 10 units but if i reach 8 like you i would of stopped . all the best
I see Atlantis almost lost 2 in a row. I think it is bound to happen. I like his staking plan. It seems you should have about 75 units for a bankroll. We shall see if that will be enough.
P. S. When I signed up on this forum, I don't remember adding a picture with my name. Now there is a "KEEL" graphic next to my name. The band's logo. Does anyone have an answer for this?
Quote from: keel44 on Jun 08, 12:53 AM 2010
I see Atlantis almost lost 2 in a row. I think it is bound to happen. I like his staking plan. It seems you should have about 75 units for a bankroll. We shall see if that will be enough.
P. S. When I signed up on this forum, I don't remember adding a picture with my name. Now there is a "KEEL" graphic next to my name. The band's logo. Does anyone have an answer for this?
Neither did I have a picture of some young latino guy....which shows
you how lazy we actually are,so Victor have to do job for us.Hopping he would win some dough for us also--lol
Test: casino wiesbaden 07 Jun 2010: table 3
won1st +1 +1
won2nd +1 +2
won1st +1 +3
won1st +1 +4
won3rd +1 +5
won2nd +1 +6
won3rd +1 +7
won1st +1 +8
won1st +1 +9
won1st +1 +10
+10 - Perfect 10
All checkable. Started recording for session after the first 2 spins. After each played game ends I let 5 spins pass before commencing recording afresh according to system rules.
A.
real money play just now in online casino and using quickspin:
won1st +1 +1
won1st +1 +2
won1st +1 +3
won1st +1 +4
won3rd +1 +5
won2nd +1 +6
won2nd +1 +7
won1st +1 +8
won2nd +1 +9
won1st +1 +10
Perfect +10 :)
Very happy with that. That now means I've had 6 winning sessions of +10 in a row in real money play.
A.
Quote from: keel44 on Jun 08, 12:53 AM 2010
I see Atlantis almost lost 2 in a row. I think it is bound to happen. I like his staking plan. It seems you should have about 75 units for a bankroll. We shall see if that will be enough.
P. S. When I signed up on this forum, I don't remember adding a picture with my name. Now there is a "KEEL" graphic next to my name. The band's logo. Does anyone have an answer for this?
KEEL yes his second game went to 5th after the first loss but if you look at the results he could of stopped at 5 or 8 unit, i haven't seen 2 games in a row lose but whos to say it won't its like saying that pro MMA FIGHTERS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO WIN YES THEY will but if you fight enough times you will lose thats reality out of about 20000 fights that i have seen bieng a trainer believe me it happens , so almost loseing 2 is like saying the right hook almost knocked me out until until it knocks you out you keep on fighting survival is everything take care KEEL YOU SEEM LIKE A NICE PERSON.
Quote from: keel44 link=topic=233. msg1565#msg1565 date=1275972781
P. S. When I signed up on this forum, I don't remember adding a picture with my name. Now there is a "KEEL" graphic next to my name. The band's logo. Does anyone have an answer for this?
I noticed the same thing, I guess Victor chose a pic for us.
I do like Victors choice for mine. . . it fits my goal perfectly ;)
Oh Dear I still don't understand this system ???,can someone explain it to me please :)
real money play at online casino just now @10p units with quickspin:
won1st +1 +1
won1st +1 +2
won1st +1 +3
won1st +1 +4
won1st +1 +5
won1st +1 +6
won1st +1 +7
won1st +1 +8
won2nd +0 +8 *0 came 1st bet. repeated bet 1 (1 unit)
won3rd +1 +9
won1st +1 +10
Wonderful result. 11 games. +10
:)
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 08, 11:11 AM 2010
real money play at online casino just now @10p units with quickspin:
won1st +1 +1
won1st +1 +2
won1st +1 +3
won1st +1 +4
won1st +1 +5
won1st +1 +6
won1st +1 +7
won1st +1 +8
won2nd +0 +8 *0 came 1st bet. repeated bet 1 (1 unit)
won3rd +1 +9
won1st +1 +10
Wonderful result. 11 games. +10
:)
A.
those are really good results congratS WARRIOR
Played another session of real money at online casino:
won1st +1 +1
won2nd +1 +2
lost5th -18 -16 (1-2-4-5-6)
won1st +7 -9 (7)
won1st +8 -1 ( 8 )
won2nd +1 +0 (3-4)
won1st +3 +3 (3) *reduce back down to 1 now ahead
won1st +1 +4
won5th -6 -2 (1-2-4-5-6)
won1st +7 +5 (7) *reduce back down to 1 now ahead
won1st +1 +6
won2nd +1 +7
won2nd +1 +8
won1st +1 +9
won2nd +1 +10
+10
A lost game happened in game 3 + later a loss on the 5th bet in game 9 but the recovery was made :)
As warrior already said, to be safer I could have accepted a lower profit...
That is now 8/8 consecutive games at +10 :)
A.
Lol ,yes Victor has a penchant for choosing peoples pictures. . . .
Quote from: moles40 on Jun 08, 11:03 AM 2010
Oh Dear I still don't understand this system ???,can someone explain it to me please :)
Atlantis,
I know that you are very busy winning money with this excellent system that Warrior has shared with us. I have been able to understand all systems you have explained. I have not been able to completely understand this system. Would you mind taking a few moments to explain it to those of us who are having trouble?
Thanks for your help, George
Quote from: GLC on Jun 08, 04:21 PM 2010
I know that you are very busy winning money with this excellent system that Warrior has shared with us. I have been able to understand all systems you have explained. I
have not been able to completely understand this system. Would you mind taking a few moments to explain it to those of us who are having trouble?
Hi George,
I am playing on single 0 and I follow the EC red/black only.
Warrior's "Perfect 10" system has 2 main components:
1) The tracking and recording phase where you gather results.
2) The actual real betting phase where you place your bets based on the results just recorded.
Tracking and recording:
=================
Commence a session by looking at the LAST TWO results spun.
We now go into VIRTUAL recording for the next 5 real number spins (ignore the 0)
With reference to Red/Black even chances
The template to follow for the recording phase of all odd numbered games is:
1) DBL
2) DBL
3) FTL
4) FTL
5) DBL
or DD FF D
The template to follow for the recording of all even numbered games is:
1) FTL
2) FTL
3) DBL
4) DBL
5) FTL
or FF DD F
Note:
DBL = decision before last (penultimate spin)
FTL = follow the last (current last spin)
The first game is game 1; 1 is an odd number so we use the FIRST template.
STEP ONE of this template requires us to look at and remember the color of the decision before last (DBL) - so note the appropriate color.
Now we wait for the next spin and see what color next occurs.
If it matches the color we just noted then write down on a "chart" a W (signifying a virtual win)
If it does NOT match the color we noted then write down instead a L (signifying a virtual loss)
That was the first recorded notation. It is best to record the results in a horizontal line fashion.
STEP TWO of this template tells us to look at and remember the color of the decision before last (DBL) - so again we note the color of the penultimate result.
Now we wait for the next spin and see what color next occurs.
If it matches the color we just noted then write down on a "chart" a W (signifying a virtual win)
If it does NOT match the color we noted then write down instead a L (signifying a loss)
STEP THREE of this template tells us to look at and remember the color of the last number spun (FTL) - so we note the color of the LAST result.
Now we wait for the next spin and see what color next occurs.
If it matches the color we just noted then write down on a "chart" a W (signifying a virtual win)
If it does NOT match the color we noted then write down instead a L (signifying a loss)
STEP FOUR of this template tells us to look at and remember the color of the last number spun (FTL) - so we note the color of the LAST result.
Now we wait for the next spin and see what color next occurs.
If it matches the color we just noted then write down on a "chart" a W (signifying a virtual win)
If it does NOT match the color we noted then write down instead a L (signifying a loss)
STEP FIVE of this template tells us to look at and remember the color of the decision before last (DBL) - so we again mentally note the color of the last but one result.
Now we wait for the next spin and see what color next occurs.
If it matches the color we just noted then write down on a "chart" a W (signifying a virtual win)
If it does NOT match the color we noted then write down instead a L (signifying a loss)
That completes the tracking/recording phase for game 1 and you should have ended up with a sequence string of L and W's
It is best to record them for each game like Warrior says.
Example:
Tracking Betting
=================
DD FF D -- 12 34 5
LW LL W
The D and F are the abbreviations for DBL and FTL respectively.
Having gathered the 5 necessary results it's time to proceed to
The actual betting phase:
===================
We bet for a maximum of 5 spins only in a single game. Whenever we get a win during the 5 bets - or if we lose all 5 bets we STOP and that game is over. After each game is finished allow 5 spins to pass before commencing the tracking phase all over again for the next game. (*but using the opposite template to the last game*)
Each of the five bets is based on the recorded outcomes of the corresponding five records we noted down.
The first bet of game 1 is based on DBL. Using the example chart above we have that down as a (L)OSS.
**We ALWAYS bet the OPPOSITE to the recorded result for each bet**
Using the example we would place the bet for DBL to WIN. So we LOOK at the DBLand if it were RED we would bet RED to win. If the recorded result was a W and we looked at the DBL and it was RED we would bet BLACK to win (because we always bet the opposite of the previously recorded outcome)
Simply, if it's a L we bet for a W; If it's a W we bet for a L.
Bet 1 is to bet the OPPOSITE of the first recorded DBL result to win. If a WIN is obtained the game is concluded.
Bet 2 is to bet the OPPOSITE of the second recorded DBL result to win. If a WIN is obtained the game is concluded.
Bet 3 is to bet the OPPOSITE of the first recorded FTL result to win. If a WIN is obtained the game is concluded.
Bet 4 is to bet the OPPOSITE of the second recorded FTL result to win. If a WIN is obtained the game is concluded.
Bet 5 is to bet the OPPOSITE of the last recorded DBL result to win. If a WIN is obtained the game is concluded.
You will need to select your favourite betting progression. Consult this thread for some ideas.
Ideally you aim to win +1 unit for each game.
If a 0 occurs during the betting phase you can move to the next stage of the prog or accept the loss and continue at the same level of the prog.
Stop when you're in profit or play a max of 10 games (unless you need to play more to recover)
Regards,
Atlantis.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 08, 06:10 PM 2010
Hi George,
I am playing on single 0 and I follow the EC red/black only.
Warrior's "Perfect 10" system has 2 main components:
1) The tracking and recording phase where you gather results.
2) The actual real betting phase where you place your bets based on the results just recorded.
Tracking and recording:
=================
Commence a session by looking at the LAST TWO results spun.
We now go into VIRTUAL recording for the next 5 real number spins (ignore the 0)
With reference to Red/Black even chances
The template to follow for the recording phase of all odd numbered games is:
1) DBL
2) DBL
3) FTL
4) FTL
5) DBL
or DD FF D
The template to follow for the recording of all even numbered games is:
1) FTL
2) FTL
3) DBL
4) DBL
5) FTL
or FF DD F
Note:
DBL = decision before last (penultimate spin)
FTL = follow the last (current last spin)
The first game is game 1; 1 is an odd number so we use the FIRST template.
STEP ONE of this template requires us to look at and remember the color of the decision before last (DBL) - so note the appropriate color.
Now we wait for the next spin and see what color next occurs.
If it matches the color we just noted then write down on a "chart" a W (signifying a virtual win)
If it does NOT match the color we noted then write down instead a L (signifying a virtual loss)
That was the first recorded notation. It is best to record the results in a horizontal line fashion.
STEP TWO of this template tells us to look at and remember the color of the decision before last (DBL) - so again we note the color of the penultimate result.
Now we wait for the next spin and see what color next occurs.
If it matches the color we just noted then write down on a "chart" a W (signifying a virtual win)
If it does NOT match the color we noted then write down instead a L (signifying a loss)
STEP THREE of this template tells us to look at and remember the color of the last number spun (FTL) - so we note the color of the LAST result.
Now we wait for the next spin and see what color next occurs.
If it matches the color we just noted then write down on a "chart" a W (signifying a virtual win)
If it does NOT match the color we noted then write down instead a L (signifying a loss)
STEP FOUR of this template tells us to look at and remember the color of the last number spun (FTL) - so we note the color of the LAST result.
Now we wait for the next spin and see what color next occurs.
If it matches the color we just noted then write down on a "chart" a W (signifying a virtual win)
If it does NOT match the color we noted then write down instead a L (signifying a loss)
STEP FIVE of this template tells us to look at and remember the color of the decision before last (DBL) - so we again mentally note the color of the last but one result.
Now we wait for the next spin and see what color next occurs.
If it matches the color we just noted then write down on a "chart" a W (signifying a virtual win)
If it does NOT match the color we noted then write down instead a L (signifying a loss)
That completes the tracking/recording phase for game 1 and you should have ended up with a sequence string of L and W's
It is best to record them for each game like Warrior says.
Example:
Tracking Betting
=================
DD FF D -- 12 34 5
LW LL W
The D and F are the abbreviations for DBL and FTL respectively.
Having gathered the 5 necessary results it's time to proceed to
The actual betting phase:
===================
We bet for a maximum of 5 spins only in a single game. Whenever we get a win during the 5 bets - or if we lose all 5 bets we STOP and that game is over. After each game is finished allow 5 spins to pass before commencing the tracking phase all over again for the next game. (*but using the opposite template to the last game*)
Each of the five bets is based on the recorded outcomes of the corresponding five records we noted down.
The first bet of game 1 is based on DBL. Using the example chart above we have that down as a (L)OSS.
**We ALWAYS bet the OPPOSITE to the recorded result for each bet**
Using the example we would place the bet for DBL to WIN. So we LOOK at the DBLand if it were RED we would bet RED to win. If the recorded result was a W and we looked at the DBL and it was RED we would bet BLACK to win (because we always bet the opposite of the previously recorded outcome)
Simply, if it's a L we bet for a W; If it's a W we bet for a L.
Bet 1 is to bet the OPPOSITE of the first recorded DBL result to win. If a WIN is obtained the game is concluded.
Bet 2 is to bet the OPPOSITE of the second recorded DBL result to win. If a WIN is obtained the game is concluded.
Bet 3 is to bet the OPPOSITE of the first recorded FTL result to win. If a WIN is obtained the game is concluded.
Bet 4 is to bet the OPPOSITE of the second recorded FTL result to win. If a WIN is obtained the game is concluded.
Bet 5 is to bet the OPPOSITE of the last recorded DBL result to win. If a WIN is obtained the game is concluded.
You will need to select your favourite betting progression. Consult this thread for some ideas.
Ideally you aim to win +1 unit for each game.
If a 0 occurs during the betting phase you can move to the next stage of the prog or accept the loss and continue at the same level of the prog.
Stop when you're in profit or play a max of 10 games (unless you need to play more to recover)
Regards,
Atlantis.
THANKS atlantis you did a way better job at explaining this then i did i have it in my head but somtimes they dont come out the way i have in my head great job.warrior
Quote from: warrior on Jun 08, 06:44 PM 2010
THANKS atlantis you did a way better job at explaining this then I did I have it in my head but somtimes they dont come out the way I have in my head great job.warrior
Hey. I'm just glad I got it down right :)
This system idea of yours truly is a welcome revelation and to be honest I can't believe and am awed at just how good the recent results have been! Of course some will say it is LUCK or random good fortune. If it is, it is damned CONSISTENT good luck...
But let us not count our chickens just yet before more trials and confirming results are posted.
A.
test: casino wiesbaden 08 Jun 2010- table 3
won3rd +1 +1
won1st +1 +2
won4th -2 +0 (1-2-4-5)
won1st +3 +3 (3)
won1st +1 +4
won1st +1 +5
won1st +1 +6
won2nd+1 +7
won1st +1 +8
won1st +1 +9
won1st +1 +10
11 games +10 achieved.
A.
real money play at online casino just now with quickspin:
won2nd +1 +1
lost5th -18 -17 (1-2-4-5-6) *LOSS
won2nd +1 -16 (7-8)
won4th -18 -34 (9-10-11-12)
won2nd +1 -33 (13-14) * zero occurred on bet 1
won1st +13 -20 (13)
won1st +14 -6 (14)
won2nd +1 -5 (7-8)
won1st +6 +1 (6) *reset to 1 unit
won2nd +1 +2 (1-2)
won3rd -1 +1 (1-2-2-4) *repeated 2nd bet due to 0 occurring
won2nd +2 +3 (2) *reset to 1 unit
won1st +1 +4
won1st +1 +5
won2nd +1 +6
won2nd +1+7
won3rd +1 +8
won1st +1 +9
won2nd +1 +10
+10
A more difficult and protracted session, but my confidence and belief in this system is growing - the recovery was made from a loss in game 2. I accept the fact that it won't always be plain sailing; but the wins seem to come which seems to make it viable... I will continue with it and make my reports and findings. :)
A.
Yes indeed, it recovers very nice. It is good to see your results atlantis.
This may be a long term winner, but it needs more testing. I will do some testing when I have some more time. .
Quote from: Fripper on Jun 09, 06:45 AM 2010
Yes indeed, it recovers very nice. It is good to see your results atlantis.
This may be a long term winner, but it needs more testing. I will do some testing when I have some more time. .
Hi Fripper,
It's good you're interested and to let you know the latest test -
test: casino wiesbaden 08 June 2010 - table 4 this time
won2nd +1 +1
won1st +1 +2
won2nd +1 +3
won1st +1 +4
won1st +1 +5
won1st +1 +6
won1st +1 +7
won1st +1 +8
won1st +1 +9
won1st +1 +10
The Perfect 10!
At least armed with this you have a fighting chance in casino. :)
Cheers,
A
my session yesterday at my local casino
1 2+1
2 1+1
3 4+1
4 1+1 ENDED MY SESSION +4 GOOD ENOUGH
5 3+1
6 1+1
7 1+1
8 1+1
9 3+1
10 3+1
MY SESSION THAT EVENING
1=5 LOSS-19
2=1-7
3=1+1
4=1+1
5=3+1
6=1+1 ENDED SESSION +4
7=4+1
8=3+1
9=2+1
10 =1+1 STARTED OUT MY SECOND SESSION ROUGH BUT I HAVE NOT HAD 2 LOSSES IN ROW YET.
Good for you Warrior. :)
Just played another real money session. I made my +10 Ok but it was an up and down session that lasted in total 26 games! I'm using quickspin so probably took about 35-40 mins. Normally takes me around 15 mins. There were times when I could have quit a few units ahead as per your advice, but I slogged it out, determined to push for the 10... I have also not come across 2 losers in a row.
So that is 9 out of 9 real winning sessions. @ +10
A.
real money play at online casino just now:
won1st +1 +1
won2nd +0 +1 *(1-1-2) zero occurred so repeated first bet. Level game.
won1st +1 +2
won2nd +1 +3
won1st +1 +4
won2nd +1 +5
won3rd +1 +6
won1st +1 +7
won4th -2 +5 (1-2-4-5)
won2nd +1 +6 (2-3)
won2nd +1 +7 (2-3) *reset to 1
won2nd +1 +8
won1st +1 +9
won1st+1 +10
+10 in 14 games.
10/10 winning sessions. :)
A.
So many wins on the first or 2nd spin. Why Why Why?
It is supposed to be random.
WHY? does this seem to work?
KEEL
Quote from: keel44 on Jun 10, 12:39 AM 2010
So many wins on the first or 2nd spin. Why Why Why?
It is supposed to be random.
WHY? does this seem to work?
KEEL
WHY,you ask.Why bother asking after so many circus performances.
Aren't you testing it yourself?????Find out and you will see if it works or not.
Quote from: keel44 on Jun 10, 12:39 AM 2010
So many wins on the first or 2nd spin. Why Why Why?
It is supposed to be random.
WHY? does this seem to work?
KEEL
Keel you must be already testing if your asking WHY.Why is the earth round why does the sun come up every day there is always a why if it works it works if it does not diss it ,if a sequence continuaslly repeated itself would the casinos be in biz.NO, IT'S SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN OFTEN if it did we would all be rich.
any way DO NOT FUSS OVER THIS METHOD, USE WHAT IS USE FULL REJECT WHAT IS USE LESS ,CIRCUS de sole in VEGAS is great did not see my method play there THATS TO YOU MR. F LAT INO.
I am asking why with happiness, not to argue. I just wanted your thoughts about the theory that is all.
KEEL
8)
Quote from: keel44 on Jun 11, 12:50 AM 2010
I am asking why with happiness, not to argue. I just wanted your thoughts about the theory that is all.
KEEL
8)
KEEL NO argument did not take that way ,there is really no answer to your ? ,when people say give a reason why it works its roulette anything can happen and ,all the best to you test it ,and post you results when you feel confident then play real money dont wast a penny until you test it and dont do 1000 spins test it untill there is no doubt,thats the killer take KEEL .
I'm not sure I completely understand this method. Atlantis, is this how you bet?:
Recording phase:
Spin 1 - D - R WIN
Spin 2 - D - B LOSE
Spin 3 - F - B WIN
Spin 4 - F - B WIN
Spin 5 - D - B LOSE
Betting phase:
Spin 6 - Bet on B to win
Spin 7 - Bet on B to win
Spin 8 - Bet on R to win
Spin 9 - Bet on R to win
Spin 10 - Bet on B to win
Is this right?
Quote from: Side B on Jun 11, 11:19 AM 2010
I'm not sure I completely understand this method. Atlantis, is this how you bet?:
Recording phase:
Spin 1 - D - R WIN
Spin 2 - D - B LOSE
Spin 3 - F - B WIN
Spin 4 - F - B WIN
Spin 5 - D - B LOSE
Betting phase:
Spin 6 - Bet on B to win
Spin 7 - Bet on B to win
Spin 8 - Bet on R to win
Spin 9 - Bet on R to win
Spin 10 - Bet on B to win
Is this right?
YES in the betting phase you would of won on spin 7 becuase it was the opposite of spin 2.
Quote from: Side B on Jun 11, 11:19 AM 2010
I'm not sure I completely understand this method. Atlantis, is this how you bet?:
Recording phase:
Spin 1 - D - R WIN
Spin 2 - D - B LOSE
Spin 3 - F - B WIN
Spin 4 - F - B WIN
Spin 5 - D - B LOSE
Betting phase:
Spin 6 - Bet on B to win
Spin 7 - Bet on B to win
Spin 8 - Bet on R to win
Spin 9 - Bet on R to win
Spin 10 - Bet on B to win
Is this right?
sorry thats wrong please put it in a horizontal format .
Quote from: warrior on Jun 11, 11:23 AM 2010
YES in the betting phase you would of won on spin 7 becuase it was the opposite of spin 2.
Why ON Spin 7? Would I not have spun on 6? Would it not have won if it was the opposite of spin 1?
SIDEB R B BB B-- B B R R B
D D F F D-- D F F D D
w l :--l you win here on the 6th spin you confused me because you put b to win on the 6th spin when it shoul be an r.
Thanks Warrior but I don't get it. I thought that on Spin 6 I had to bet the opposite of what came up on Spin 1? So if R won on Spin 1, then I should bet B on Spin 6, not R. Using my first 5 virtual spins, can you explain how you work out which colour to bet on in the next 5 spins please, that would be really helpful.
Quote from: Side B on Jun 11, 12:21 PM 2010
Thanks Warrior but I don't get it. I thought that on Spin 6 I had to bet the opposite of what came up on Spin 1? So if R won on Spin 1, then I should bet B on Spin 6, not R. Using my first 5 virtual spins, can you explain how you work out which colour to bet on in the next 5 spins please, that would be really helpful.
side b atlantis has all the info and the rules go and re read its very clear you will get.all the best.
I've read and re-read and I don't get it, some real examples of how you play would have been helpful. Never mind, I won't play it, there's no point if I'm not sure how I should be playing.
WELL MY SYSTEM IS STILL WINNING after tracking the first 5 and i win i bet right away on the 2nd tracking instead of waiting so i bet on the first 5 that i tracked and bet the opposite of the results i make my perfect 10 alot quicker.
1=1st spin
2=3rd spin
3=1st spin
4=1st
5=1st
6=1st
7=1st
8=1st
9=2nd
10= 1st
perfect 10
Quote from: warrior on Jun 23, 11:23 PM 2010
WELL MY SYSTEM IS STILL WINNING after tracking the first 5 and I win I bet right away on the 2nd tracking instead of waiting so I bet on the first 5 that I tracked and bet the opposite of the results I make my perfect 10 a lot quicker.
1=1st spin
2=3rd spin
3=1st spin
4=1st
5=1st
6=1st
7=1st
8=1st
9=2nd
10= 1st
perfect 10
That's great news, warrior! Does that mean you tracked 5 then bet 5 then tracked 5 then bet five again??
If so maybe consider the "best of five" progression: Play the first 5 bets @ 1
1,1,1,1,1
If after 5bets you're in front - play the next 5 @1 also. If not, then go up to 2,2,2,2,2
reset whenever in profit. Could be less riskier than using rising stakes should the unwelcome and inevitable losing run manifest itself...
I will try it.
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 24, 08:26 AM 2010
That's great news, warrior! Does that mean you tracked 5 then bet 5 then tracked 5 then bet five again??
If so maybe consider the "best of five" progression: Play the first 5 bets @ 1
1,1,1,1,1
If after 5bets you're in front - play the next 5 @1 also. If not, then go up to 2,2,2,2,2
reset whenever in profit. Could be less riskier than using rising stakes should the unwelcome and inevitable losing run manifest itself...
I will try it.
A.
Yes thats right atlantis i bet on the first 5 that i tracked then i already have 5 tracked from the previous so i bet on tose i will try your best of five because its safer thanks warrior.
what exactly do we bet here? 2 dozens? hell i don't get it
Quote from: iggiv on Jun 26, 09:33 PM 2010
what exactly do we bet here? 2 dozens? hell I don't get it
Iggiv,
I was in the same boat as you, but Atlantis did give very detailed instructions on how to play this system in Reply #55 on page 4 of this thread.
It is a little complicated because of the betting opposite stuff. I will try to give an example according to the way I understand it.
This is played on the Even Chance bets.
The bet selection is different depending on whether you are playing an odd numbered session or an even numbered session.
We track each session for 5 virtual bets.
On an odd numbered game we bet dbl,dbl,ftl,ftl,dbl where dbl stands for decission before last or penultimate and ftl stands for follow the last.
If our 1st 2 spins are RB our first virtual bet will be on R (dbl) If the result is R, we write down a W. If the 3rd spin were B, we would write down an L for a loss.
Our second virtual bet will be B because the dbl from the above spins is B. (We have RBR above so the penultimate color is B). If we get another R, we lose so we write an L next to the W.
Our third virtual bet will be R which is the last color spun and we see above that the third bet on an odd numbered session is ftl or follow the last color spun.
We continue for 5 virtual bets and then we start betting real money beginning with spin number 6.
The tricky part is that when we bet for real we bet for the outcome to be the opposite of the corresponding virtual bet.
So, the 1st virtual bet was R which was the dbl and it was a win. The 6th bet is opposite dbl because we want the dbl to lose. So if the dbl color was B for the 6th bet, if we bet for B we are betting to win, but we're supposed to be betting to lose because the 1st virtual bet won, so we bet for R instead of B. If R comes up we win and that series is over.
We wait for 5 spins and start our 2nd series of 5 virtual bets, but this time we bet ftl,ftl,dbl,dbl,ftl.
I don't know if it has to be this complicated, but that's the way I understand how to play it. I've tested a few sessions and I can't say that the win rate is any higher than just betting penultimate or ftl all the time.
The one thing it does do is eliminates the losing sequences we always encounter when betting straight dbl or ftl. This alone may be the edge that makes this betting selection method better.
I'm not guaranteeing that my understanding of the system is exact, but that's the way I read it.
The amount to bet on each spin is left up to each individual.
I personally prefer to be positive, even or minus 1 on any win in a 5 bet sequence. Therefore, I've been testing it with a modified 5 step martingale. 1,2,4,7,13. If I win on the 1,2, or 4 I'm up 1 unit. If I win on the 7 I break even and if I win on the 13, I lose 1 unit.
As long as I win within the 5 bets, I stay at 1,2,3,7,13. If I lose, I increase my wagers to 2,4,8,14,26 until I win back my 26 units that I lost. When I recover from my loss, I drop back down to 1,2,4,7,13. If I lose again, I double my progression to 4,8,16,28,52 until I recover. If I lose 5 in a row while betting 4,8,16,28,52, I call that a loss for the day and quit.
Use whatever you like. Fibonacci would work. Alembert, labby, etc...
Good luck, and don't be bashful about letting us know what you think.
George
Quote from: GLC on Jun 26, 10:58 PM 2010
Iggiv,
I was in the same boat as you, but Atlantis did give very detailed instructions on how to play this system in Reply #55 on page 4 of this thread.
It is a little complicated because of the betting opposite stuff. I will try to give an example according to the way I understand it.
This is played on the Even Chance bets.
The bet selection is different depending on whether you are playing an odd numbered session or an even numbered session.
We track each session for 5 virtual bets.
On an odd numbered game we bet dbl,dbl,ftl,ftl,dbl where dbl stands for decission before last or penultimate and ftl stands for follow the last.
If our 1st 2 spins are RB our first virtual bet will be on R (dbl) If the result is R, we write down a W. If the 3rd spin were B, we would write down an L for a loss.
Our second virtual bet will be B because the dbl from the above spins is B. (We have RBR above so the penultimate color is B). If we get another R, we lose so we write an L next to the W.
Our third virtual bet will be R which is the last color spun and we see above that the third bet on an odd numbered session is ftl or follow the last color spun.
We continue for 5 virtual bets and then we start betting real money beginning with spin number 6.
The tricky part is that when we bet for real we bet for the outcome to be the opposite of the corresponding virtual bet.
So, the 1st virtual bet was R which was the dbl and it was a win. The 6th bet is opposite dbl because we want the dbl to lose. So if the dbl color was B for the 6th bet, if we bet for B we are betting to win, but we're supposed to be betting to lose because the 1st virtual bet won, so we bet for R instead of B. If R comes up we win and that series is over.
We wait for 5 spins and start our 2nd series of 5 virtual bets, but this time we bet ftl,ftl,dbl,dbl,ftl.
I don't know if it has to be this complicated, but that's the way I understand how to play it. I've tested a few sessions and I can't say that the win rate is any higher than just betting penultimate or ftl all the time.
The one thing it does do is eliminates the losing sequences we always encounter when betting straight dbl or ftl. This alone may be the edge that makes this betting selection method better.
I'm not guaranteeing that my understanding of the system is exact, but that's the way I read it.
The amount to bet on each spin is left up to each individual.
I personally prefer to be positive, even or minus 1 on any win in a 5 bet sequence. Therefore, I've been testing it with a modified 5 step martingale. 1,2,4,7,13. If I win on the 1,2, or 4 I'm up 1 unit. If I win on the 7 I break even and if I win on the 13, I lose 1 unit.
As long as I win within the 5 bets, I stay at 1,2,3,7,13. If I lose, I increase my wagers to 2,4,8,14,26 until I win back my 26 units that I lost. When I recover from my loss, I drop back down to 1,2,4,7,13. If I lose again, I double my progression to 4,8,16,28,52 until I recover. If I lose 5 in a row while betting 4,8,16,28,52, I call that a loss for the day and quit.
Use whatever you like. Fibonacci would work. Alembert, labby, etc...
Good luck, and don't be bashful about letting us know what you think.
George
HI GEORGE YOU HAVE THE RULES RIGHT that is the way to play it im sure that if you use only DBL you will get the same results instead of mixing the DBL AND FTL DECISIONS test it for your self you will be surprised on the results once you track the first five and and win within the next 5, no need to track or wait the first five you tracked bet the the opposite of those results ok talk to you later warrior.
Hi warrior,
Here is session playing only DBL using 2U-2D progression.
Casino Wiesbaden 27 JUN 2010 - Table 3
===============================
[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,22,No,0,0,0,0,500,
2,12,No,0,0,0,0,500, *start W/L track
3,7,No,0,0,0,0,500, L
4,5,No,0,0,0,0,500, W
5,21,No,0,0,0,0,500, W
6,21,No,0,0,0,0,500, W
7,20,No,0,0,0,0,500, L (bet opp to LWWWL)
8,15,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Red L
9,5,Bet,1,2,-1,1,500,1 : Red L
10,10,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Red W
11,12,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Black W
12,22,Bet,2,4,-2,2,500,2 : Black W (bet opp to LLWWW)
13,1,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Red W
14,4,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Black W
15,8,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Black L
16,26,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : Red W
17,26,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Red W (bet opp to WWLWW)
18,24,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,499,2 : Red L
19,32,Bet,2,4,-2,2,501,2 : Red L
20,0,Bet,2,0,-1,-1,500,2 : Red *zero - half stake return
21,36,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : Red W
22,25,Bet,2,4,-2,2,504,2 : Red L *bet 2 here for +1
23,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505,1 : Black L (bet opp to LLWLL)
[/table]
+5 in 23 spins.
A.
Again playing only DBL with 2U-2D betting prog. R/B
Am ignoring 0 during tracking and regarding it as no-bet during betting/play.
Casino Wiesbaden 28 Jun 2010 - Table 3 (yesterday)
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[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,=Bet=,=Win=,=Loss=,=Net=,=Bal.=,Bet Layout
1,5,No,0,0,0,0,500,
2,7,No,0,0,0,0,500, *track first 2
3,36,No,0,0,0,0,500, W
4,12,No,0,0,0,0,500, W
5,29,No,0,0,0,0,500, L
6,0,No,0,0,0,0,500, *ignore 0
7,15,No,0,0,0,0,500, L
8,30,No,0,0,0,0,500, L = play opp of WWLLL
9,21,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Red L
10,10,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Black L
11,35,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Red L
12,3,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Black L
13,9,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,498,2 : Black L = play opp of LLLLL
14,36,Bet,2,4,-2,2,500,2 : Red W
15,9,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : Red W
16,10,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Red L
17,22,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Red L
18,0,Bet,2,0,-1,-1,499,2 : Black *ignore 0
19,1,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,497,2 : Black L = play opp of WWLLL
20,35,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,495,2 : Red W
21,6,Bet,3,6,-3,3,498,3 : Black L
22,17,Bet,3,6,-3,3,501,3 : Black W
23,16,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,499,2 : Black L
24,6,Bet,2,4,-2,2,501,2 : Black W = play opp of WLWLW
25,21,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,499,2 : Black W
26,20,Bet,2,4,-2,2,501,2 : Black W
27,18,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,499,2 : Black W
28,36,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,497,2 : Black L
29,18,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,494,3 : Black W = play opp of WWWLW
30,8,Bet,3,6,-3,3,497,3 : Black L
31,36,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,494,3 : Black W
32,20,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,491,3 : Red W
33,28,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,487,4 : Red L
34,17,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,483,4 : Red W = play opp of LWWLW
35,35,Bet,5,10,-5,5,488,5 : Black W
36,11,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,483,5 : Red W
37,3,Bet,5,10,-5,5,488,5 : Red L
38,34,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,483,5 : Black L
39,0,Bet,5,0,-2.5,-2.5,480.5,5 : Black *ignore 0
40,8,Bet,5,10,-5,5,485.5,5 : Black L = play opp of WWLLL
41,22,Bet,5,10,-5,5,490.5,5 : Black L
42,0,Bet,4,0,-2,-2,488.5,4 : Red *ignore 0
43,27,Bet,4,8,-4,4,492.5,4 : Red L
44,15,Bet,4,8,-4,4,496.5,4 : Black W
45,12,Bet,3,6,-3,3,499.5,3 : Red W
46,33,Bet,3,6,-3,3,502.5,3 : Black W = play opp of LLWWW
47,22,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501.5,1 : Red L
48,10,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502.5,1 : Black W
49,36,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503.5,1 : Red L
50,3,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504.5,1 : Red L
51,35,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505.5,1 : Black L = play opp of LWLLL
[/table]
+5.5 in 51 spins.
Seems a lot better than my "Alt-Zone" idea anyway :)
Cheers,
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 29, 03:21 AM 2010
Hi warrior,
Here is session playing only DBL using 2U-2D progression.
Casino Wiesbaden 27 JUN 2010 - Table 3
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[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,22,No,0,0,0,0,500,
2,12,No,0,0,0,0,500, *start W/L track
3,7,No,0,0,0,0,500, L
4,5,No,0,0,0,0,500, W
5,21,No,0,0,0,0,500, W
6,21,No,0,0,0,0,500, W
7,20,No,0,0,0,0,500, L (bet opp to LWWWL)
8,15,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Red L
9,5,Bet,1,2,-1,1,500,1 : Red L
10,10,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Red W
11,12,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Black W
12,22,Bet,2,4,-2,2,500,2 : Black W (bet opp to LLWWW)
13,1,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Red W
14,4,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Black W
15,8,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Black L
16,26,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : Red W
17,26,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Red W (bet opp to WWLWW)
18,24,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,499,2 : Red L
19,32,Bet,2,4,-2,2,501,2 : Red L
20,0,Bet,2,0,-1,-1,500,2 : Red *zero - half stake return
21,36,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : Red W
22,25,Bet,2,4,-2,2,504,2 : Red L *bet 2 here for +1
23,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505,1 : Black L (bet opp to LLWLL)
[/table]
+5 in 23 spins.
A.
THANK YOU FOR THE RESULTS ATLANTIS
Quote from: warrior on Jun 29, 08:23 AM 2010
THANK YOU FOR THE RESULTS ATLANTIS
No problem. I have finished testing my idea so moving on to test more thoroughly your "Perfect 10".
Compa has suggested in another thread doing tests of 30 x 100 spins to try and find consistent winning bet. During this test the bet is allowed to lose only ONE session.
Refer to:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/roulette-and-gambling-framework/rules-for-confirmation-of-a-consistent-bet/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/roulette-and-gambling-framework/rules-for-confirmation-of-a-consistent-bet/)
Therefore, I will record future sessions of 100 spins for the month of MAY 2010 at Casino Wiesbaden - table 3 for each day... The first result is for the 2nd May (there was no 1st results due to holiday I think)
I am playing DBL on R/B using "2u-2d" progression:
Casino Wiesbaden 02 MAY 2010 - Table 3
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[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet,=Win=,=Loss=,=Net=,=Bal.=,Bet Layout
1,35,No,0,0,0,0,500,
2,13,No,0,0,0,0,500,
3,31,No,0,0,0,0,500,
4,9,No,0,0,0,0,500,
5,7,No,0,0,0,0,500,
6,26,No,0,0,0,0,500,
7,8,No,0,0,0,0,500,
8,14,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Red
9,3,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Black
10,1,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Red
11,19,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Red
12,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Red
13,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Red
14,26,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : Black
15,36,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Red
16,5,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504,1 : Red
17,2,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : Red
18,10,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : Red
19,16,Bet,2,4,-2,2,504,2 : Red
20,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505,1 : Black
21,18,Bet,1,2,-1,1,506,1 : Red
22,18,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,505,1 : Black
23,32,Bet,1,2,-1,1,506,1 : Red
24,25,Bet,1,2,-1,1,507,1 : Red
25,4,Bet,1,2,-1,1,508,1 : Black
26,0,Bet,1,0,-0.5,-0.5,507.5,1 : Black
27,30,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,506.5,1 : Black
28,26,Bet,1,2,-1,1,507.5,1 : Black
29,33,Bet,1,2,-1,1,508.5,1 : Black
30,33,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,507.5,1 : Red
31,25,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,506.5,1 : Black
32,10,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,504.5,2 : Red
33,23,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,502.5,2 : Black
34,24,Bet,3,6,-3,3,505.5,3 : Black
35,21,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,502.5,3 : Black
36,8,Bet,3,6,-3,3,505.5,3 : Black
37,23,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,502.5,3 : Black
38,6,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,499.5,3 : Red
39,10,Bet,4,8,-4,4,503.5,4 : Black
40,29,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,499.5,4 : Red
41,16,Bet,4,8,-4,4,503.5,4 : Red
42,15,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,499.5,4 : Red
43,25,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,495.5,4 : Black
44,20,Bet,5,10,-5,5,500.5,5 : Black
45,12,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,495.5,5 : Black
46,13,Bet,5,10,-5,5,500.5,5 : Black
47,17,Bet,5,10,-5,5,505.5,5 : Black
48,2,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,501.5,4 : Red
49,26,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,497.5,4 : Red
50,30,Bet,5,10,-5,5,502.5,5 : Red
51,7,Bet,5,10,-5,5,507.5,5 : Red
52,5,Bet,2,4,-2,2,509.5,2 : Red
53,31,Bet,1,2,-1,1,510.5,1 : Black
54,29,Bet,1,2,-1,1,511.5,1 : Black
55,26,Bet,1,2,-1,1,512.5,1 : Black
56,13,Bet,1,2,-1,1,513.5,1 : Black
57,30,Bet,1,2,-1,1,514.5,1 : Red
58,9,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,513.5,1 : Black
59,10,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,512.5,1 : Red
60,19,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,510.5,2 : Black
61,32,Bet,2,4,-2,2,512.5,2 : Red
62,3,Bet,2,4,-2,2,514.5,2 : Red
63,21,Bet,1,2,-1,1,515.5,1 : Red
64,13,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,514.5,1 : Red
65,28,Bet,1,2,-1,1,515.5,1 : Black
66,12,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,514.5,1 : Black
67,14,Bet,1,2,-1,1,515.5,1 : Red
68,19,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,514.5,1 : Black
69,0,Bet,1,0,-0.5,-0.5,514,1 : Black
70,8,Bet,1,2,-1,1,515,1 : Black
71,14,Bet,1,2,-1,1,516,1 : Red
72,11,Bet,1,2,-1,1,517,1 : Black
73,9,Bet,1,2,-1,1,518,1 : Red
74,8,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,517,1 : Red
75,24,Bet,1,2,-1,1,518,1 : Black
76,3,Bet,1,2,-1,1,519,1 : Red
77,17,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,518,1 : Red
78,1,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,517,1 : Black
79,15,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,515,2 : Red
80,18,Bet,2,4,-2,2,517,2 : Red
81,13,Bet,2,4,-2,2,519,2 : Black
82,17,Bet,1,2,-1,1,520,1 : Black
83,30,Bet,1,2,-1,1,521,1 : Red
84,36,Bet,1,2,-1,1,522,1 : Red
85,33,Bet,1,2,-1,1,523,1 : Black
86,19,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,522,1 : Black
87,33,Bet,1,2,-1,1,523,1 : Black
88,0,Bet,1,0,-0.5,-0.5,522.5,1 : Red
89,0,Bet,1,0,-0.5,-0.5,522,1 : Red
90,19,Bet,1,2,-1,1,523,1 : Red
91,7,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,522,1 : Black
92,7,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,521,1 : Black
93,11,Bet,2,4,-2,2,523,2 : Black
94,29,Bet,1,2,-1,1,524,1 : Black
95,2,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,523,1 : Red
96,3,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,522,1 : Black
97,29,Bet,2,4,-2,2,524,2 : Black
98,30,Bet,1,2,-1,1,525,1 : Red
99,20,Bet,1,2,-1,1,526,1 : Black
100,7,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,525,1 : Black
[/table]
+25 in 100 spins (abt. 1hr 40m @ 50 s.p.h.)
maxdrawdown=13
highest bet=5
A good start. :) Plenty of chances to leave the session in front. I like to aim for a target of +5 so may have stopped at Spin 20...
In future I will only post the final result here - but I will keep copies of the full sessions for reference purposes.
Good Luck,
A.
Thank you Atlantis for neat and informing tests!
Can you please explain "2u-2d" progression?
I think flat betting is a way to go in showing if bet is real winner or not but easy progression can't harm if bet selection is good.
Seems to me that tracking/playing all 3 EC at the same time shows more stable results.
Quote from: Paja on Jun 29, 10:38 AM 2010
Thank you Atlantis for neat and informing tests!
Can you please explain "2u-2d" progression?
I think flat betting is a way to go in showing if bet is real winner or not but easy progression can't harm if bet selection is good.
Seems to me that tracking/playing all 3 EC at the same time shows more stable results.
Hi Paja,
The following is taken from that freeroulettesystem site:
======================
The 2 up - 2 down progression
======================
(a simple progression for small to medium bankrolls)
This is suitable for the Even Money bets in Roulette and could also be used for Mini-Bac.
You commence with a 1 unit bet and you continue betting 1 unit until you lose 2 consecutive bets.
When this happens you increase your bet to 2 units and continue to bet 2 units until you
a) win 2 consecutive bets at which point you reduce your next bet to 1 unit
b) lose 2 consecutive bets which means you increase your next bet to 3 units.
The progression is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 - if you reach 5 you should restart at 1 or you can continue 6, 8, 10.
Just remember you go up to the next number after 2 consecutive losses and you go down one step to the next lowest number after 2 consecutive wins.
For example: if you win 2 consecutive bets of 4 units each your next bet would be 3 units.
=========
The exceptions I made is if I get level to my highest recorded profit then I reset to the starting bet of 1. Also when I am close to recovery; if I don't need to bet the full amount of units that the system says, then I just drop to the bet level which is enough to make a +1 on my previous highest recorded profit total. Hope you get that. :)
Believe me, it would be difficult, tricky and confusing to play this on more than one EC!
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 29, 10:49 AM 2010
Hi Paja,
The following is taken from that freeroulettesystem site:
======================
The 2 up - 2 down progression
======================
(a simple progression for small to medium bankrolls)
This is suitable for the Even Money bets in Roulette and could also be used for Mini-Bac.
You commence with a 1 unit bet and you continue betting 1 unit until you lose 2 consecutive bets.
When this happens you increase your bet to 2 units and continue to bet 2 units until you
a) win 2 consecutive bets at which point you reduce your next bet to 1 unit
b) lose 2 consecutive bets which means you increase your next bet to 3 units.
The progression is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 - if you reach 5 you should restart at 1 or you can continue 6, 8, 10.
Just remember you go up to the next number after 2 consecutive losses and you go down one step to the next lowest number after 2 consecutive wins.
For example: if you win 2 consecutive bets of 4 units each your next bet would be 3 units.
=========
The exceptions I made is if I get level to my highest recorded profit then I reset to the starting bet of 1. Also when I am close to recovery; if I don't need to bet the full amount of units that the system says, then I just drop to the bet level which is enough to make a +1 on my previous highest recorded profit total. Hope you get that. :)
Believe me, it would be difficult, tricky and confusing to play this on more than one EC!
A.
ATLANTIS that is a good way for the money m. as far as all 3 chances very complex way of plaing in a real casino setting the simpler the better ,because when you bet is not going well you start to panic so if the bet is simple it helps on location at a time .
Quote from: warrior on Jun 29, 10:56 AM 2010
ATLANTIS that is a good way for the money m. as far as all 3 chances very complex way of plaing in a real casino setting the simpler the better ,because when you bet is not going well you start to panic so if the bet is simple it helps on location at a time .
I fully agree.
Warrior, Are you ready for next result in the 30 session test? :)
The result is:
+15 in 100 spins; maxdrawdown=16; highest bet=4.
So we have so far:
1) +25 in 100 spins; maxdrawdown=13; highest bet=5
2) +15 in 100 spins; maxdrawdown=16; highest bet=4
I will post next result tomorrow.
A.
Hi Warrior,
I was wondering if the method of tracking 5 results and betting the opposite has any advantage over just playing the DBL on each spin?? Or maybe just alternating DBL with FTL? Would sure be a lot easier and you could always stop after 3 L's and wait for a virtual win before continuing...
And now some unwelcome results, I'm afraid.
I managed to find time to play another 2 sessions @100 spins for 4th and 5th MAY 2010 - Table 3 at Wiesbaden
3) -8 in 100 spins (there was a high point of +13)
4) -31 in 100 spins (I reset to 1 after losses at 5 but it still lost twice)
Also session 4 lost from the outset and never got in to any kind of profit at all. :(
So it seems has now failed Compa's CWB criteria challenge at least with my testing on R/B with DBL and using the 2u-2d prog... So I will stop the 30 session test now.
That does not mean it would not work better with a different progression or your own favoured progression, so wouldn't be too bothered by those results as I know you've been getting good winning results yourself.
After those losers my idea is maybe to restrict the 2u-2d prog to a max of 3 units before restarting - that way only 12 units is put at risk 1-1,2-2,3-3 then restart @1
Anyone else been trying this system or playing it differently?
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 29, 02:17 PM 2010
Hi Warrior,
I was wondering if the method of tracking 5 results and betting the opposite has any advantage over just playing the DBL on each spin?? Or maybe just alternating DBL with FTL? Would sure be a lot easier and you could always stop after 3 L's and wait for a virtual win before continuing...
And now some unwelcome results, I'm afraid.
I managed to find time to play another 2 sessions @100 spins for 4th and 5th MAY 2010 - Table 3 at Wiesbaden
3) -8 in 100 spins (there was a high point of +13)
4) -31 in 100 spins (I reset to 1 after losses at 5 but it still lost twice)
Also session 4 lost from the outset and never got in to any kind of profit at all. :(
So it seems has now failed Compa's CWB criteria challenge at least with my testing on R/B with DBL and using the 2u-2d prog... So I will stop the 30 session test now.
That does not mean it would not work better with a different progression or your own favoured progression, so wouldn't be too bothered by those results as I know you've been getting good winning results yourself.
After those losers my idea is maybe to restrict the 2u-2d prog to a max of 3 units before restarting - that way only 12 units is put at risk 1-1,2-2,3-3 then restart @1
Anyone else been trying this system or playing it differently?
A.
IM GOING TO STICK TO THE ORIGINAL STRATAGIE,2 losses in a row are very rare .
Thank you Atlantis for explanation.
I played DBL with pluscoup progression and it also crashed within first 4 sessions.
Playing all 3 EC with separate progression on each is complicated. I was suggesting playing 3 EC with one progression for all 3 at the same time. All 3 EC are one bet with same number of chips, depending of progression step.
Win all 3 EC = W
win 2 out of 3 = W
lose 2 out of 3 = L
lose all 3 = L
Follow R/B, O/E and H/L of penultimate result and treat both W's the same, no matter do they earn +1 or +3. Same with L's.
It looks to me (not sure yet) that tracking all 3EC produces different W/L results than tracking 1 EC because of overlapping trends.
I will start a new topic about EC, when i have more time, where people could debate about roles of LD, DBL and compare W/L registries of different bets. You and Warrior are more than welcome to join discussion.
Quote from: Paja on Jun 30, 03:12 PM 2010
Playing all 3 EC with separate progression on each is complicated. I was suggesting playing 3 EC with one progression for all 3 at the same time. All 3 EC are one bet with same number of chips, depending of progression step.
Win all 3 EC = W
win 2 out of 3 = W
lose 2 out of 3 = L
lose all 3 = L
Follow R/B, O/E and H/L of penultimate result and treat both W's the same, no matter do they earn +1 or +3. Same with L's.
It looks to me (not sure yet) that tracking all 3EC produces different W/L results than tracking 1 EC because of overlapping trends.
I will start a new topic about EC, when I have more time, where people could debate about roles of LD, DBL and compare W/L registries of different bets. You and Warrior are more than welcome to join discussion.
Hi Paja,
That's an interesting idea playing all 3 EC's of penultimate decision. Sure go ahead and start new topic.
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 29, 02:17 PM 2010
Hi Warrior,
I was wondering if the method of tracking 5 results and betting the opposite has any advantage over just playing the DBL on each spin?? Or maybe just alternating DBL with FTL? Would sure be a lot easier and you could always stop after 3 L's and wait for a virtual win before continuing...
And now some unwelcome results, I'm afraid.
I managed to find time to play another 2 sessions @100 spins for 4th and 5th MAY 2010 - Table 3 at Wiesbaden
3) -8 in 100 spins (there was a high point of +13)
4) -31 in 100 spins (I reset to 1 after losses at 5 but it still lost twice)
Also session 4 lost from the outset and never got in to any kind of profit at all. :(
So it seems has now failed Compa's consistent winning bet criteria challenge at least with my testing on R/B with DBL and using the 2u-2d prog... So I will stop the 30 session test now.
That does not mean it would not work better with a different progression or your own favoured progression, so wouldn't be too bothered by those results as I know you've been getting good winning results yourself.
After those losers my idea is maybe to restrict the 2u-2d prog to a max of 3 units before restarting - that way only 12 units is put at risk 1-1,2-2,3-3 then restart @1
Anyone else been trying this system or playing it differently?
A.
WITH THIS TEST WERE YOU PLAYING ONLY DBL or with the results like the perfect 10 stratagie im a little confused.
Hi Warrior,
That's right I was playing DBL only - so not a valid test on the original way...
A.
thank u very much GLC
1st =1 my session today
2=1
3=4
4=1
5=2
6 =5 loss
7=4
8=1
9=2
10=1 i used a fibo i think this is the way to go with the perfect ten stratagie
+6 profit all the best warrior
Quote from: warrior on Jul 07, 08:11 PM 2010
1st =1 my session today
2=1
3=4
4=1
5=2
6 =5 loss
7=4
8=1
9=2
10=1 I used a fibo I think this is the way to go with the perfect ten strategy
+6 profit all the best warrior
Warrior,
I'm a little confused. When I total the above 10 sessions I get +17-5=+12 but you say only +6. How do you figure?
GLC
Quote from: GLC on Jul 07, 10:41 PM 2010
Warrior,
I'm a little confused. When I total the above 10 sessions I get +17-5=+12 but you say only +6. How do you figure?
GLC
GLC LOL thanks for the corection i forgot to take the winnings from the first 2bets ,i need a holiday thats for sure.
I was sorry to see this topic go dead as I felt this method was close to completion.
Warrior and Atlantis are you guys still using the Perfect 10 and if so did you decide on the best MM to use.
Quote from: Pappy on Aug 09, 05:06 PM 2010
I was sorry to see this topic go dead as I felt this method was close to completion.
Warrior and Atlantis are you guys still using the Perfect 10 and if so did you decide on the best MM to use.
I STILL USE THIS, the mm. stepladder,works well or go virtual first spin after tracking and ready to bet for a safer way.
Dear Warrior,
can you please elaborate this technique for massesin simple words and through citing example of actual number than DD, DL etc. George you may also help clear the lingo
warrior are you still playing this? is anybody else?
is it still holding up?
cheers.
Quote from: ewarwoowar on Nov 02, 05:10 PM 2010
Warrior are you still playing this? is anybody else?
is it still holding up?
cheers.
yes i still play this .
Why all this confused "brain masturbation"?
Play the opposite of the last five decisions and that's all.
You'll have exactly the same % of W or L
Quote from: beretta28 on Dec 23, 11:04 AM 2010
Why all this confused "brain self-pleasure"?
Play the opposite of the last five decisions and that's all.
You'll have exactly the same % of W or L
yes you probably right,all bets are the same in roulette .