1 chip on single street 1 -3
1 chip on single street 7 - 9
1 chip on single street 16 -18
1 chip on single street 19 -21
1 chip on single street 25 - 27
1 chip on single street 34- 36
1 chip on split 9 -12
1 chip on split 18 -21
1 chip on split 27- 30
1 chip on 0.
Master Progression: 1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,4,4,4,5,5,5,5,5,5.
On a losing bet then move forward 1 step on the progression, on a win move back 1 step. This is a
sliding progression. Quit when you are making reasonable profit.
This is my poor mans version of the system by reincarnation below. (Progressions for dozens.)
Just to clarify, if you are 1u and then you lose a bet, do u move on to the next 1u or do u move on to 2u?
The next bet will be 1 unit . Say you lose the first 3 bets and win on the fourth , so looking at the progression we have played 1. 1. .1 1. W e have won on the underlined leg What we do is count back I step so we are at 1. 1. 1. say we win again then we count back another step so we are at 1.1. etc..
We only move to the number 2 on the progression when we have lost 6 bets ie= 1 1 1 1 1 1 then the next bets would be raised to the start of the 2's on the progression. What we do with this system is play steady progression till the 0 or 9, 18, or 27 hit a few times which give good profits and maybe time to quit the session once we are up.
From the tests I have done I am seeing what looks like a good system, on real play I have done well.
e.g. lets say we lose the first 6 bets ( 1 1 1 1 1 1) then the next bets are at the start of the 2 level, now if we win this bet at the first 2 on the progression we go back to the 6th leg of the 1's underlined and carry on from this point.
we loose when the game goes all black or the 0, 9 , 18 27 sleep for long time.
dont dismiss this one guys
been testing it a little yesterday and today ...
looks pretty good
though a steap BR is required to see out the progression... ill work it out now ...
bankroll needed is 90 units per bet
betting on 10 elements...
= 900 units...
im playing 0.25 at smart live casino...
= Ã,£225
Kingspin,
Thanks for posting this system. Another beauty by a master systems designer.
I have tested it a little with good results.
Don't have much time right now. Can be kind of a grind, but that's okay as long as we win.
Can you give us some stats on your play and tests?
Fraudster,
Same for you. Can you please give us more of your observations and maybe a few stats to help know what to expect?
Good luck to all,
George
Thanks GLC , the only tests i have done are on fun play i am up by about 1.4k playing rng on fun mode. I think fraudster is playing this method at smart live casino , fraudster will let us know how it's going i guess. Long hours needed at the wheel to really get a feel for a method before saying it's a winner.
Kingspin, Fraudster,
I was wondering why you think this system works better than the 3/2 (bet 3 on hi or low and 2 on opposite dozen) any hit wins 1, 7 losing numbers. Or 9/6/2 system (bet 9 on low, 6 on High dozen and 2 on 19-20-22-23 corner. Any hit wins 1 unit but only 3 losing numbers.
By the way, I like your progression for lucky horse shoe. Can you suggest a workable progression for either of the 2 systems mentioned above?
Thanks,
George
This works better because it uses a some inside numbers . None of the out side methods are any good and the progressions bust too often .
Maybe this is too much of a grind method for the real wheel. ;)
Only trouble playing rng is the fact it makes you lose. :twisted:
:LoL::LoL::LoL::LoL::LoL::LoL::LoL:
I've tested this on some real wheels, but yes, its bit of a grind. . and it look a very long time to see some profits. . . needs a bit more of time and testing. . .
I have a new progression called grind reducer for this method. Now this is still a grind but the number of spins needed to see profit are reduced.
Grind reducer for lucky horse shoe is as follows .
The progression is 1 2 4 8 .
Rules :- You play at level 1 (1 chip) until you have 3 straight losses on the trot LLL.
Only when you have 3 consecutive LLL'S can you raise to 2 chips per number, you will then play at 2 chips per number until you hit profit , if you are unlucky and get another 3 LLL'S then you may progress to 4 chips per number , you then play at 4 chips per number until a profit , once a profit is attained you reset to 1 chip per number, I this is still a grind but much better than the other progression on previous post. You could play to 8 chips a number but so far I have not needed to go this far before I hit a profit. Draw downs are much bigger of course on bad sessions.
How much bank do you calculate is safe to weather the drawdowns until you hit a decent win?
Thanks,
George
Using the martingale i think double the bank of the previous progression , say 1800 chips at 25p per chip. We play a 1 2 4 8 limited martingale like i explained above and if we are unlucky we have enough chips to start over again , actually the martingale is more likely to give faster profits but we loose big and fast on a bad day, maybe a is better i will try it. I just won Ã,£58 on real wheel using this 1 1 1 2 2 3 4 6 9 17. (took 2.5 hours) at 1 spin per minute .
Did you use the same procedure? viz. , go to the next step in the progression after 3 LLL's?
have decided that this is a much better progression to play this after doing a lot of testing.
The progression is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. 10 levels. Play as follows :- We start off at number 1 on the progression , we can only go to number 2 on the progression after 3 consecutive losses on the trot. Once we are at the number 2 on the progression we can only go to number 3 after 3 consecutive losses , once we are at number 4 on the progression we can only go to number 5 after 3 consecutive losses and so on .......... This works much better. I made another Ã,£80 using this progression playing with only 25p chips. Once a win at any progression level shows a new profit then reset back to 1 chip. Try this reincarnation I like it much better than previous progression / method. We don't slide back we only move forward on the progression till a nice win shows us a new profit +. So In a nut shell the bets are held at the played progression level untill we loose 3 times and only then do we move up a level if we wish to do so.
Thts promising. . . on my way now ;)
Btw, just out of curiosity, how much time did it take to make Ã,£80 with 25p chips?
bankroll 1650 for this?
I'm using a Ã,£400 BR using 25p chips. But, its looking like bit of a grind. BR is holding up well, but at the same time, I'm not seeing profits as much as Kingspin is seeing.
kingspin might be using an RNG... and the spins are like 500+ a hour... not sure how/where he is playing it
Hi guy's i have been testing this method on rng real money using 25p chips. I deposited Ã,£12
into 4 online casino's and decided to play to see if i could win small amounts at all of them and i am happy to say i made about Ã,£35 all together. No progression needed too this time so a nice few games. Always keep rng games as short as possible even as low as 5 spins if you get a few wins in. I could see this doing well if spread over many casino's and taking a few pounds from each one. One game i got a lot of 0's and 27.s and 9's which was great. :)
It was on rng spread over a few casino's mate. Never play for long at any 1 rng casino. I amassed about Ã,£80. For me i like this new system a lot and is a definite favourite of mine now. :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :wink:
hey king some advise please.
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spin /// win-lose on no. /// win-lose after bet increase after 3 losses /// total balance
22 -10 -10 -10
24 -10 -10 -20
33 -10 -10 -30
6 -10 -20 -50
10 -10 -20 -70
32 -10 -20 -90
29 -10 -30 -120
22 -10 -30 -150
12 17 51 -99
13 -10 -30 -129
24 -10 -30 -159
11 -10 -30 -189
26 1 4 -185
13 -10 -40 -225
14 -10 -40 -265
0 36 144 -121
25 1 4 -117
25 1 4 -113
31 -10 -40 -153
35 1 4 -149
35 1 4 -145
5 -10 -40 -185
31 -10 -40 -225
10 -10 -40 -265
11 -10 -50 -315
21 17 85 -230
17 1 5 -225
21 17 85 -140
14 -10 -50 -190
22 -10 -50 -240
17 1 5 -235
10 -10 -50 -285
22 -10 -50 -335
13 -10 -50 -385
13 -10 -60 -445
2 1 6 -439
26 1 6 -433
Was this on a live wheel or RNG or just a hypothetical analysis?
I can't believe this number set you post is from a real wheel , first I ask is this rng or from a real wheel. It looks like it's been made up to me . Who knows :smile:
All I can say is he is one very unlucky person :)
It's not clear to me what progression he is playing.
Playing a 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 progression i have seen draw downs by as much as 400 chips but always seen ait shoot back up to profit or near profit , the numbers weddings posted are pure death loosers...... ???
playtech live casino prestige casino why would I post something that wastes both your and mine time?
Maybe sheer bad luck!!!
The end :twisted:
Play tech live LoL no wonder you lost :D , playing the original progression below
1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,4,4,4,5,5,5,5,5,5. I would say you should have won.
This progression is a massive grind at times but still produces the goods. (wins).
I have to say this progression still holds strong.
I have tried a few progressions but this one seems to work best only problem is it can at times take maybe 100 -200 or more spins to climb back to profit.
Play tech live is the worst of them all.
why? its still the same live wheel right? haha!
Kingspin,
I'm going to post the progression I suggested at another location. I'm just going to explain it with the 3/2 system and it should be easily adapted to your system by anyone who is interested.
The bet line for the 3/2 system is 1111222233334444555566667777etc... You can limit it to however many levels you wish or you can continue as far as you wish.
On a loss move 5 steps to the right since we lose 5 units on each loss. You'll note that there are only 4 bets at each level. This is so when you get back to the first 1 you are showing a profit. Move 1 step to the left everytime you win. If you lose again before getting back to the first 1, move 5 steps to the left from wherever you were on the line. You will always be plus before you get to the first 1 in the line so if you find yourself at a good plus number anywhere in the line, just take your win and start restart at 1 for the next attack.
I have been testing this on the 2/1 method also and it wins there also. The 2/1 you bet 2 units on the 1-18 e.c. and 1 unit on the 3rd dozen. Only move to the right when a 19-20-21-22-23-24-0 hits and only move to the left when a 1-18 hits. A hit in the 3rd dozen is a break even so no movement.
This also works well with the 9/6/2 variation. But a loss means you will have to move 17 steps to the right. Of course there are only 3 numbers that cause this big jump and 34 numbers that cause a 1 step to the left.
I hope others find this to be as safe a bet as I have.
By the way. I just tested this with your system and it works great.
It probably needs some polishing since I have only recently thought of it.
Cheers,
George
For all concerned,
Please be advised that the bet line method I posted above sucks big time.
Please do not use that method unless you test it thoroughly and convinced in your own mind as to how you want to use it.
I have found that losing spins coming in clusters can run your unit size sky high.
Sorry for the interference.
George
Hi glc mate try this version of the lucky horse shoe , this is called the black
lucky horse shoe , basically you win more with this when the blacks are dominating the game
the original tends to win more when reds are dominating. What i think is if you have had a good run on the original (i will call it red horse shoe) then maybe try switching to the "black horse shoe"
This actually works just as good as the red but wins more when blacks are streaking hard.
Kingspins Lucky horse shoe "Black Version".
I agree 100% your progression is way too aggressive to play!
1 chip on single street 4 - 6
1 chip on single street 10 - 12
1 chip on single street 13 - 15
1 chip on single street 22 - 24.
1 chip on single street 28 - 30
1 chip on single street 31 - 33
1 chip split 15 -18
1 chip split 3 - 6
1 chip split 30 -33
1 chip on 0.
Same progression and methods as you use now.
This plays nice actually so far.