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Title: 37 spins to win
Post by: Roulettist on Mar 04, 12:35 AM 2019
Bet each repeat that lands double all bets on each new repeat. on hit keep all numbers but reset to 1 unit 37 spins total. Heres my first set of results. I know progression is very aggresive but its a hit and run method. Feel free to give feed back and test different progressions.

1. +212
2. +305
3. +274
4. +294
5 +487

Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: Roulettist on Mar 04, 04:21 AM 2019
Took until spin 15 for repeat/betting opportunity to come but when it did...
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: Roulettist on Mar 04, 05:02 AM 2019
1. +212
2. +305
3. +274
4. +294
5. +487
6. +127
7. +195
8. +158
9. +216
10. +537

Game 10 i switched to a positive progression on a hit using 1,5,25 and reset back to 1 after a hit on 25.
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 04, 06:10 AM 2019
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Mar 04, 05:39 AM 2019
I do not really understand what you want to say with the bet ... can you explain it with an example?

regards
Passion
The way i see it, is when a hit once repeats, goes R1, he starts to bet, if another goes R1 he doubles the bet.
Now as Doc sudoku say's R2's can wait along time, say spins 31-40
We could wait and see if Turbo or Eddy have some input
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: Roulettist on Mar 04, 06:32 AM 2019
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Mar 04, 05:39 AM 2019
I do not really understand what you want to say with the bet ... can you explain it with an example?

regards

Sorry if my explanation is vague, basicly trying to figure a system that produces profit more often then loss playing out 37 spins.
Example
1
6
21
1# bet 1 unit
28
36
0
36# bet 1 unit
1# hit so 5 units on both 1 and 36
14
21
21# 5 units each on 1,36,21
36# 25 units on 1,36,21
1# hit so reset to 1 unit each on 1,36,21.

Continue process untill 37 spins completed. Just throwing ideas out there when they come. Its probably already been done before or very similar.
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: Roulettist on Mar 04, 06:37 AM 2019
Quote from: nottophammer on Mar 04, 06:10 AM 2019
Passion
The way i see it, is when a hit once repeats, goes R1, he starts to bet, if another goes R1 he doubles the bet.
Now as Doc sudoku say's R2's can wait along time, say spins 31-40
We could wait and see if Turbo or Eddy have some input

Yes notto thats correct. Just trying to find which progressions work best for the bet selection.

Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: Roulettist on Mar 05, 07:18 AM 2019
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Mar 04, 07:17 AM 2019
By the way, when you have already won and you lose chips, leave the same numbers or start a new session? And up to how many numbers? I guess no more than 8 do not?

I leave the same numbers and keep playing until 37 spins are complete. If more repeats land in that time i ad them until 37 spins completed.
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: nichedelico on Mar 05, 08:54 AM 2019
So you don't check if you are on profit or not, you play until the 37 spins ends?
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: nichedelico on Mar 05, 10:43 AM 2019
Sorry you've alredy answer at this question , my bad!
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: puntoit on Mar 06, 07:15 PM 2019
here we need an encoding with rx  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: Ricky on Mar 07, 09:36 AM 2019
Hi roulettist
Have a read of my thread “using chess strategies to find the HG”. I am currently exploring how to profit within a 38 spin cycle. The example I am using for the discussion is similar to what you are proposing. But the method is not important. What is important is how you react to the next spin in your cycle. As has been shared in few threads like back to basics each spin cycle is different. Some you will get early wins with many numbers repeating. Some you will get many uniques before the first repeat.
Where your idea will create a large drawdown is where you get those early repeats in the first 10-15 spins and then you are faced with a sequence of uniques. In this situation you will be betting 5 units on 1 or more numbers and will get into a hole.

I would say you would only follow such a strategy if you are in profit already and can afford to lose to the above example situation.

My suggestion would be to build up you profit over several cycles using a less aggressive progression or even flatbetting. I would not put the progression on all repeats but just those that are showing 3+ repeats in the cycle.

Alternatively, if you wish to be this aggressive with all repeats having the same progression then you could distribute a larger progression over each repeat.

Eg say #1 repeats so you put 1 unit on it. Then #36 repeats. Soon after you get a hit on #1 so you are now using a progression on both numbers. Instead of using 5 let’s use a fixed number say 12 and put 6 units on each for a total cost of 12 each spin. Now if a third number say #15 repeats you distribute 12 among all 3 numbers so you have 4 units on each still costing you 12. Then if a 4th number repeats say #18 you place 3 units on each of the 4 repeats still costing you  12units.The idea is the total cost if covering the repeats is the same. If hits come early you profit the most. If they come late you profit less. If you have multiple bets out you will not get into a hole as quick. When you get a hit in a number with the higher progression you can afford to increase you total cost from 12 to say 20.

Lastly you might want to put a hard stop in the 37 spin cycle to take a loss early and reset. Conversely you may wish to set a target win goal and reset when it’s hit.

At the end of the day the system is not what you should be concentrating on it’s the money management and your reaction to the wheels next spin. This is what I’m exploring on my thread

Cheers
Ricky
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: Roulettist on Mar 07, 02:59 PM 2019
Thanks for the input Ricky, this is why i put they idea out there, for helpful suggestions like yours. And i think you are right money management is always key to any system. I will try your  suggestions when i have time and report back with results. Cheers.
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: Mako on Mar 08, 01:59 PM 2019
Roulettist and Ricky, good thoughts, very interesting.  Will add it to the list to test.   :)

List is getting long lately, looks like one of my wife's "Honey Do" lists... :twisted:

It's good though, rather have more methods to explore than the alternative...
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: Gandhi on Mar 08, 03:12 PM 2019
I  like this method and the positive progression but too many numbers bet and then just gets really deep with heavy progression.

Same trouble I had playing with Turbos tips and then when you cut down the numbers bet you miss a lot of potential hits and the small amount you are betting go cold forever. Not sure if there's a solution for that without being able to see the future..
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: Robbert on Mar 09, 03:51 AM 2019
Isnt it better just to go +1 with every new repeater?
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: Robbert on Mar 09, 04:24 AM 2019
can someone rx this?

i really need to learn rx..
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 09, 06:22 AM 2019
Roulettist
I’ve told this to others.
Like Ricky says divide the bet like where he says 12.
Well this way you will bet R1’s
R1’s are non-hit that hit and become one hit; the one hit hit’s then becomes R1.
Now ask Dr Sudoku R1’s can take till spins 31-40 to go R2.
But I’d say wait till spin 20 and see how many R1’s, usually you’d have 4.
So what is the pay out? 35+1=36; so 36 is total unit.
Now spin 21 you will bet the R1’s with unit of 1. As spins come, so might another R1, but you bet with unit of 1. Now you keep tabs on the 36 units, say at spin 28 you have played 34 units, the next bet has to increase as you would have bet more than 36.
So; using Turbo’s aggressive prog; the next bet will use units of 5. 5 units on a number return 180 units. You carry on till you have nearly spent 180 units. You don’t want to bet more than 180 on the R1’s; so when the pay-out shows you’d be minus on the win, you will up the units to 25. When and if total spend is nearly 900 unit; you have to raise to 50 unit, if you are this far you might be betting 10 to 12 R1’s, remember the Doctor that he and I have seen this type of bet go to spins 41-50 and you will be betting BIG.
Title: Re: 37 spins to win
Post by: Gandhi on Mar 09, 12:14 PM 2019
To me it seems best to play the scarface way and stay on the 3 most recent repeaters for 12 and keep cycling and staying on the freshest repeats. Definitely money management wise, keeps you from digging a massive hole to climb out of.