Tried different Triggers/Bets for an EC-bet. And none worked so good , except this Trigger, just tested;
TRIGGER; Wait for 2 hits of the same color (RR or BB) THEN you bet against this trend for (2) spins. Then STOP, So you bet against all Doubles and Tripples (RR RRR or BB BBB)....
Progression; I use a Fibonacci -ladder progression (+1 Step for each LOSS, -1 Step for each Win) RESET when breakeven or reached a new high... This ladder works like that, you need (2) Hits/wins to breakeven or reach a new high (if it goes beyond step 3). IF you´re close to reach a new high, you could go -2 Steps IF/When hit.
1,2,3,5,8,13,21,32,55,89...and so on.
TEST 1-5 (RNG & LIVE 5u bets)
4 more Live-sessions. All winners, But as you can see in the last chart a drop, and the progression went as far as 55u (played with 5u bets)... I believe MAXRisk 650u something, soo... then a BR of 700-750u (played with 5u bets then would be a good idea?)
I made a simple RX-code for this bet, and? for short sessions (MAX 300 spins) i believe the winrate is high perhaps 80-90% ?
Also interesting, with this code now (Reset when reached a new high) if it goes into a hole/Loss, it can (sometimes) recover from that loss, (Not all the time, but *sometimes*)
TEST 1-3 Livespins
RX-code TrendBreaker EC
system "TrendBreaker EC"
// © ignatus 2018 ©
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
Set List[1,2,3,5,8,13,21,32,55,89,144,233,377,610,987]
to Record "progression" Data
end
Copy List [Black] to Record "B" Layout
Copy List [Red] to Record "R" Layout
while on each spin
begin
if any outside bet lost each
begin
Add 1 to Record "progression" Data index
end
if any outside bet won each
begin
if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
begin
clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
clear Record "B" Layout
clear Record "R" Layout
end
IF Black hit 2 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "R" layout list
end
IF Black hit 3 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "R" layout list
end
IF Red hit 2 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "B" layout list
end
IF Red hit 3 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "B" layout list
end
{if total bankroll >= 500 each time
begin
stop session
end
}
if total bankroll <= -5000 each time
begin
stop session
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "B" Layout
clear Record "R" Layout
End
end
END
Tested now 40 Livesessions (Stop at 500 spins) SL -1000u. With that i won 34/40 Games so? that would be a winrate of 85%...ofc shorter sessions would give higher winrates. For an example if you play with a wingoal of +100u etc..
Ignatus
I have read an old blog recently, the author wrote about such a progression, It acts like a marty, we stops at the first first win and returns to the beginning.
The author claimed. that there are any advantages of such staking.
I would be grateful if you checked it on the wheel. without zero
If there are any advantages, it will be seen
1-2-3-4-5-10-25-50
Quote from: ozon on Jul 03, 06:28 AM 2019
Ignatus
I have read an old blog recently, the author wrote about such a progression, It acts like a marty, we stops at the first first win and returns to the beginning.
The author claimed. that there are any advantages of such staking.
I would be grateful if you checked it on the wheel. without zero
If there are any advantages, it will be seen
1-2-3-4-5-10-25-50
OK 4 winners, 1 lost session , (but the winners not high profits, so 1 loss would wipe the profits? or?) idk :question:
RX-code
system "TrendBreaker v2 EC"
// © ignatus 2018 ©
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
Set List[1,2,3,4,5,10,25,50]
to Record "progression" Data
end
Copy List [Black] to Record "B" Layout
Copy List [Red] to Record "R" Layout
Load no zero wheel table
while on each spin
begin
if any outside bet lost each
begin
Add 1 to Record "progression" Data index
end
if any outside bet won each
begin
{ if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
begin
clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end }
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "B" Layout
clear Record "R" Layout
end
IF Black hit 2 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "R" layout list
end
IF Black hit 3 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "R" layout list
end
IF Red hit 2 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "B" layout list
end
IF Red hit 3 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "B" layout list
end
if total spin count = 500 each time
begin
stop session
end
if total bankroll <= -1000 each time
begin
stop session
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "B" Layout
clear Record "R" Layout
End
end
END
Played without stop...
Now tested progressionline 1,2,3,5,10,15,25,50
Better results,...but to find the "perfect" progressionline, i believe a few steps longer... we´ll see..
system "TrendBreaker v3 EC"
// © ignatus 2018 ©
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
Set List[1,2,3,5,10,15,25,50]
to Record "progression" Data
end
Copy List [Black] to Record "B" Layout
Copy List [Red] to Record "R" Layout
Load no zero wheel table
while on each spin
begin
if any outside bet lost each
begin
Add 1 to Record "progression" Data index
end
if any outside bet won each
begin
{ if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
begin
clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end }
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "B" Layout
clear Record "R" Layout
end
IF Black hit 2 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "R" layout list
end
IF Black hit 3 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "R" layout list
end
IF Red hit 2 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "B" layout list
end
IF Red hit 3 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "B" layout list
end
{if total spin count = 500 each time
begin
stop session
end
}
if total bankroll <= -1000 each time
begin
stop session
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "B" Layout
clear Record "R" Layout
End
end
END
ofc, This may be the "Ultimate progressionline" (played with the same rules as first code/Reset only when reached a new high etc..) im not sayin it´s a "grail" but seem to work good? (Also note, this played on RNG- no zero wheel)
1,2,3,5,10,15,25,50,75,125,225,375,550,750,1000
TrendBreaker v4
system "TrendBreaker v4 EC"
// © ignatus 2019 ©
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
Set List[1,2,3,5,10,15,25,50,75,125,225,375,550,750,1000]
to Record "progression" Data
end
Copy List [Black] to Record "B" Layout
Copy List [Red] to Record "R" Layout
Load no zero wheel table
while on each spin
begin
if any outside bet lost each
begin
Add 1 to Record "progression" Data index
end
if any outside bet won each
begin
if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
begin
clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
// put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "B" Layout
clear Record "R" Layout
end
IF Black hit 2 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "R" layout list
end
IF Black hit 3 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "R" layout list
end
IF Red hit 2 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "B" layout list
end
IF Red hit 3 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "B" layout list
end
{if total spin count = 500 each time
begin
stop session
end
}
if total bankroll <= -1000 each time
begin
stop session
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "B" Layout
clear Record "R" Layout
End
end
END
Big Thanks for help
I think with the bet selection from 1 post, on the wheel no zero, you could achieve a short term profit by playing flat.
I've been thinking about various MMs lately,.
I try to optimize different bet selections to achieve even the minimum edge.
For example, I have recently been reminded of MM. What Bally / Wiggy is doing
Use positive and negative staking
3 step of positive progression 1-2-4, as you lose on any step you play recower bet for 2 units and so in a circle if you lose this bet you return to 1 unit.
there are statistics in this topic
made in sets of 100spins without a bet selection
but I think that with your bet selectin the results would be better, you only need to play in sets of 50 triggers to get 100 Bets.
link:s://betselection.cc/real-world-casino-action/koetsch-g3m1/msg66486/#msg66486
What results from these statistics?
With G3M1 we have 47% chance to reach 20 units
average peak of losses is about 25 units
the results are negative, but adding this bet selection and wheel with the La Partage rule, we should be so close to the HE minimum that we should not lose much in the long run
Quote from: ozon on Jul 03, 10:48 AM 20193 step of positive progression 1-2-4, as you lose on any step you play recower bet for 2 units and so in a circle if you lose this bet you return to 1 unit.
I couldn´t code exacly as you wished only 1-2-4 positive progression (only reset to 1u when win an reached a new high) and Always return to 2u at any loss.... but im suprised at the results... (i couldn´t do more spins, because it runs very slow..) anyway, looks good! Thx
RX.codesystem "TrendBreaker v6 EC"
// © ignatus 2019 ©
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
Set List[1,2,4]
to Record "progression" Data
end
Copy List [Black] to Record "B" Layout
Copy List [Red] to Record "R" Layout
Load no zero wheel table
while on each spin
begin
if any outside bet lost each
begin
put 2 on Record "progression" Data Index
//Add 1 to Record "progression" Data index
end
if any outside bet won each
begin
Add 1 to Record "progression" Data index
if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
begin
clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
// put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "B" Layout
clear Record "R" Layout
end
IF Black hit 2 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "R" layout list
end
IF Black hit 3 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "R" layout list
end
IF Red hit 2 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "B" layout list
end
IF Red hit 3 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "B" layout list
end
{if total spin count = 500 each time
begin
stop session
end
}
if total bankroll <= -1000 each time
begin
stop session
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
put 2 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "B" Layout
clear Record "R" Layout
End
end
END
Version 7. Positive progressionline 25,50,75,100,150,250 (+1 step for each win, Reset only when reached a new high)
RX.code
system "TrendBreaker v7 EC"
// © ignatus 2019 ©
method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
Set List[25,50,75,100,150,250]
to Record "progression" Data
end
Copy List [Black] to Record "B" Layout
Copy List [Red] to Record "R" Layout
Load no zero wheel table
while on each spin
begin
if any outside bet lost each
begin
//put 2 on Record "progression" Data Index
//Add 1 to Record "progression" Data index
end
if any outside bet won each
begin
Add 1 to Record "progression" Data index
if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
begin
clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
end
// put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "B" Layout
clear Record "R" Layout
end
IF Black hit 2 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "R" layout list
end
IF Black hit 3 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "R" layout list
end
IF Red hit 2 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "B" layout list
end
IF Red hit 3 time each
begin
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "B" layout list
end
{if total spin count = 500 each time
begin
stop session
end
}
if total bankroll <= -1000 each time
begin
stop session
end
If Record "progression" Data Index >
Record "progression" Data Count
Begin
put 2 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "B" Layout
clear Record "R" Layout
End
end
END
Today, I have some fun with a certain MM
the assumptions were that I would end sessions if I would be minus 300units from the highest point, but nevertheless I had a profit of 299 units.
I wonder if playing such a MM in sets of 500 spins, or with the assumptions I have described, i.e. the end of the session minus 300 units from the highest point, changes something in longrun.
The bet selection was 1 dozen
MM is the progression of +1 on lose and win till new high.