Hi!
I'm a newcomer to this forum and got an idea that I would like to test with some of you. The idea is based around any number hitting 3 times within a cycle of 37 spins. My question is how often does this happening or even more intreresting, how often does this not happening? I've tried to test this manually but it's really slow so if any of you know approximate statistics of this event or have a bot to try it out, that would be much appriciated.
All the best!
/BP12
Look in 37 back to basic; the opening post has AYK’s tracker there. It will show what you want and so much more.
It will show you what the experts say the 1/37 spin. But you watch the cycle on AYK’s tracker and you’ll see 1/37 spins is nothing to worry about.
A certain amount of the starting 37 numbers have to hit in a cycle; it won’t be the 1 number hits for 37 spins or show all 37 numbers hit in the 37 spins.
page 3 in main roulette board
Here is a game with 6
Thanks Notto! Have read a little now and is still not sure if I got the answer I wanted. Do you know how often a spin cycle will go through without any number hitting 3 times? Example 1/30 cycles or whatever.
From what i can tell so far it's pretty rare that we not see a number hitting 3 times in a 37 spincycle and that it would be pretty easy to exploit that. Just as long we set a stoplimit at 37 spins it would be fairly easy to regain the lost if this event don't happend that often. So do you have any stats?
Quote from: BP12 on Dec 17, 07:52 AM 2019
Thanks Notto! Have read a little now and is still not sure if I got the answer I wanted. Do you know how often a spin cycle will go through without any number hitting 3 times? Example 1/30 cycles or whatever.
From what i can tell so far it's pretty rare that we not see a number hitting 3 times in a 37 spincycle and that it would be pretty easy to exploit that. Just as long we set a stoplimit at 37 spins it would be fairly easy to regain the lost if this event don't happend that often. So do you have any stats?
You can’t exploit this - many tried this before you and got nowehere at the end they gave up !
Maybe you're right it's just an idea, have you tried it yourself also?
This is a test of 500 spins i just finished. Seems to be pretty steady with profits going up and not a single cycle without a number hitting 3 times. Maybe i havn't tested it long enough..
I just follow the starting 37; you'll never need 500 spins, 60 is fine.
Quote from: BP12 on Dec 17, 08:17 AM 2019
Maybe you're right it's just an idea, have you tried it yourself also?
Yes I tried it
By the way, how are you playing ?
Are you betting on all previous numbers that hit twice and hoping for a third hit ?
Will read in to it Notto, thanks for the suggestion!
The way I play it is that I have different rules that I go by. But the foundation is based on playing on number that have hit two times to hit a third yes.
Quote from: BP12 on Dec 17, 07:52 AM 2019
Do you know how often a spin cycle will go through without any number hitting 3 times? So do you have any stats?
1, .. % ( 2% to keep things easy)
Great, thanks Denzie! Much appriciated
I did a test of 5000 sets of 37 spins.
Here are attached some results that could interest you.
Amazing dude, that was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you so much!
BP12
You'll find a way to get a bet.
Look at how many repeats are average by spin 20. So bet the remaining of the starting 37
Big Bro spin 20 :thumbsup:
What's on spin 20?
Quote from: Bigbroben on Dec 17, 01:33 PM 2019
I did a test of 5000 sets of 37 spins.
Here are attached some results that could interest you.
Good to know this info. Thanks for the statistics
Big Bro
Going for repeat so of course it gives non-hits; 2 repeats in 20 spins.
What you better give them is when the 3 hitter goes to a 4 hit. Or they need to follow the TROT.
Quote from: BP12 on Dec 16, 03:33 PM 2019
Hi!
I'm a newcomer to this forum and got an idea that I would like to test with some of you. The idea is based around any number hitting 3 times within a cycle of 37 spins. My question is how often does this happening or even more intreresting, how often does this not happening? I've tried to test this manually but it's really slow so if any of you know approximate statistics of this event or have a bot to try it out, that would be much appriciated.
All the best!
/BP12
I've been doing something along these lines for the last four weeks. So far I've had great success on live wheel. Haven't had a losing day yet.
Nice! Saw your post and it seems we play the same way lol. Are you playing this daily and what’s your progression looking like?
Could somebody help me run a test of my system? So far when I played it live it hasn't had a loosing day like Ravenous said. Pretty sure this is a winning way of playing, just need to confirm it holds before i raise my stakes.
Thanks in advance!
Quote from: BP12 on Dec 22, 06:53 AM 2019
Could somebody help me run a test of my system? So far when I played it live it hasn't had a loosing day like Ravenous said. Pretty sure this is a winning way of playing, just need to confirm it holds before i raise my stakes.
Thanks in advance!
So how exactly do you play then? In an earlier post you mention that your system is based around some specific rules.
Would you mind sharing your exact way of playing so that we can help you testing your system?
Quote from: Tekunda on Dec 22, 08:15 AM 2019
So how exactly do you play then? In an earlier post you mention that your system is based around some specific rules.
Would you mind sharing your exact way of playing so that we can help you testing your system?
Sure! So the way I think this should be played is;
The first bet start at spin 21 or 25. Haven't decided wich is the best since I first played at 21 but switched too protect the balance more.
The rule for it to be played at spin 21 is that there can't be more than 5 numbers to bet and ofc there can't be any number that have hit 3 times before. For it too be played at spin 25 I would say max 7 numbers to bet.
We bet on all numbers that have hit 2 times, and also add the new ones that comes along. There is a progression that varies depending on how many numbers we're betting. So the base is that we bet 1 unit on all repeaters until we reach a spin we're we won't be profitible if we hit. Then we raise to 2 units and so on. The progression depends on the bankroll and how exposed you want to be but for the test I'd like to minimize the risk, so that would be a progression like 1-1-1-1-1-2-2-3-4-5-8-10-15 or something like that if we start at spin 25.
We bet until a win has occured or stop if we reach spin 37 without a win. When we win we retrack new numbers and start the process over.
I have some other rules that will make it even better but this is the base I would like to be tested. Don't know if it's possible with the "moving" progression but if not you could just go with the progression i wrote above.
You know the riddle 1 to become 2; 2 to become 3 and so on. If you look to the 4 coloured boxes; you’ll see at 20 spin we could have 4 repeats and we’ve actually got 5 repeats.
Now betting the hottest will we at spin 30 have a bigger profit? From; the potential of 4 more repeats. How many will you bet?
Or would you re-set on the win at spin 19; +2
Well the known data of 9 repeats by spin 30 is spot on.
And yes we have a bigger profit.
So now! We have 10 more spin and average for repeats is 16 at spin40, so 7 more repeats, will the hottest, get hotter or those pesky 1x’s and 0x’s make more to bet; but you have just 4 to bet.
So we see the known average for 40 spins of 16 repeat from 24 of the starting 37 is spot on.
But the 4 hottest being bet are not hitting. So at spin 60 there could be 30 of the starting 37 hit and 30 repeats.
Will the 4 hottest get the hits?
60 spins 30 of the starting 37 have hit; so 30 repeats. But the 4 being bet are not doing so well.
At 91st spin enough profit.
Riddles and more riddles
Quote from: BP12 on Dec 22, 10:04 AM 2019
The first bet start at spin 21 or 25. Choose in B6 Haven't decided which is the best since I first played at 21 but switched too protect the balance more.
The rule for it to be played at spin 21 is that there can't be more than 5 numbers to bet Choose in B8 and ofc there can't be any number that have hit 3 times before Choose in B10. For it too be played at spin 25 I would say max 7 numbers to bet.
We bet on all numbers that have hit 2 times choose in B5, and also add the new ones that comes along. There is a progression that varies Choose in B9 depending on how many numbers we're betting. So the base is that we bet 1 unit on all repeaters until we reach a spin we're we won't be profitable if we hit. Then we raise to 2 units and so on. The progression depends on the bankroll and how exposed you want to be but for the test I'd like to minimize the risk, so that would be a progression like 1-1-1-1-1-2-2-3-4-5-8-10-15 or something like that if we start at spin 25.
We bet until a win has occured GOAL in B4, result in F5 or stop if we reach spin 37 without a win. When we win we retrack new numbers and start the process over.
I have some other rules that will make it even better but this is the base I would like to be tested. Don't know if it's possible with the "moving" progression but if not you could just go with the progression i wrote above.
Hey,
got you this file here below.
Choose your parameters in blue, enter your nrs in column E and see the results in green.
Quote from: Bigbroben on Dec 22, 03:27 PM 2019
Hey,
got you this file here below.
Choose your parameters in blue, enter your nrs in column E and see the results in green.
Amazing bro! Thank you so much, you're a legend.
So i got two questions. Is it possible to make it stop betting when the first trepeat hit and not keep on going for the remaining spins? And also is it possible to make the diagram include all previous sessions so you can see how the curve looks over time, or can you just have it set to the current session?
Either way, thank you so much for this!
Actually both values are there: the goal value stops counting when the goal has been reached. The end value is if one had kept playing until spin 38.
In order to record previous results, you could do it manually or use a macro. I do this all the time. Unfortunately, macro-files cannot be attached on this forum.
I see! So how would you set up a micro like that? I’m not the best at excel as you may understand lol. What I would want is to save every session and have the stats for the longer game. But maybe it’s just easier to save it manually.
Just 1-3-5-7
The problem myself encountered when playing repeater number groups 3 repeaters and 4 repeater or others is that the repeater numbers accumulate but none of them excample repeats 4th time 3 repeaters group and 5th time 4 repeaters group and that kill balance.
You might got 6-9 numbers or more, some specific repeater group but none of them not repeat and go next upper repeater group and gain win.
Quote from: Pave on Dec 26, 01:08 PM 2019You might got 6-9 numbers or more,
Pave it's betting on just 4 numbers; the supposedly 4 hottest. If that exists. Expert watching he'll tell you all you need to know.
NOTTOPHAMMER thank you for taking the time to respond.
In order to know which repeater group just 4 numbers are working best it requires tests.
Also if there thing that many numbers come some repeater group over 4 numbers, then can decide on based standard deviation which 4 numbers to place bets on, or swap numbers if their standard deviation values become unfavorable.
Pave it's late. The pic's are in the file; just betting the 4 hottest.
Pave or anyone; and that’s not the idiot the Dr or AKA, the General.
I can see the GIF; the General would put up; his famous red arrow heading south. Now as long as you understand why it’s heading south, you’ll know how to get over it happening.
Take the #17; when I eliminated it on spin 12, so was betting #’s 14-27-20-1; the very next spin #17 hits and you think I just dropped it. Turbo says he does not get every win. Guess what; I drop the #17 and it hits again; I’ve just dropped it.
What math will show you/me to bet the #17, none; it’s a game of chance.
But how do I know; that usually at spin 40, there will be 16 repeats? By collecting and recording games of 60 spins.
If you care to look at spin 40 low and behold there are 16 repeats. Spin 39 we get a win. Are we worried; NO.
I know why it’s showing the bankroll is going down; but I have faith in the soft progression. Spin 60 shows I’m in a better position.
6 spins later I’m in profit.
At 60 spins the score is 28 of the starting 37 have hit; so there must have been 32 repeats. I was not on all of the 32!
The deeper blue finished the 60 spins; #15 and 6 spins later the bet is won, betting repeats. But look 28 of the starting 37 have hit spins 61-62-63-64; guess what 3 of them are from the remaining non-hit; now there are 31 of them, hit.
Now with 14 R1’s against the 4 hottest; just re-set.
I've re-set
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 27, 04:19 AM 2019
Take the #17; when I eliminated it on spin 12, so was betting #’s 14-27-20-1; the very next spin #17 hits and you think I just dropped it. Turbo says he does not get every win. Guess what; I drop the #17 and it hits again; I’ve just dropped it.
What math will show you/me to bet the #17, none; it’s a game of chance.
But how do I know; that usually at spin 40, there will be 16 repeats? By collecting and recording games of 60 spins.
If you care to look at spin 40 low and behold there are 16 repeats. Spin 39 we get a win. Are we worried; NO.
I know why it’s showing the bankroll is going down; but I have faith in the soft progression. Spin 60 shows I’m in a better position.
6 spins later I’m in profit.
At 60 spins the score is 28 of the starting 37 have hit; so there must have been 32 repeats. I was not on all of the 32!
The deeper blue finished the 60 spins; #15 and 6 spins later the bet is won, betting repeats. But look 28 of the starting 37 have hit spins 61-62-63-64; guess what 3 of them are from the remaining non-hit; now there are 31 of them, hit.
Now with 14 R1’s against the 4 hottest; just re-set.
Curve fitting. "Could of, would of, should of, if this, if that. Stop here, stop there, quit when you're up X." It's a big red flag that your system doesn't work. ::)