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Title: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: game over on Mar 21, 02:54 PM 2021
Hello Sirs!!
My name is Hector and I have come to make a real and decent proposal just for a few!

Look ... at roulette there is only one possible way to win and that is to play dynamically.
This dynamic form has to carry two games at the same time, the two possibilities that any system gives you, which are the way you play and its opposite form.
You have to know how to play both forms separately and at the same time as a single form.
They have to know what each thing is and how they are used separately and together.
This has to create a dynamic and balanced system to be able to win at roulette in a totally flat way.
You do not need to pay 1000-2000 euros or more to anyone.
Either you study and work to get what you want or people will be forced to be scammed.
I love this game and I can win for more than 2 years, but I like to see what other people do and that is why I like to pay and see what others have, but they have always been scams, always !!!
Fortunately, experience has already told me how to make payments and do things correctly and I have almost always got my money back.
When I lose some money, I have no problem, I just play and get my money back, the casino and roulette give it back to me, hahaha.
But this mob who steals from others makes me in a very bad mood, that's why I get angry, not because of what they take from me, but because of the shit of people out there in the world.
Some time ago I proposed to sell one of my forms and I was called a scammer directly, but now that I have paid a shitty person, will people still defend it? I do not understand gentlemen!

Look, if you really want to win at roulette, study and be around people who know how to do it for real and not these newbies and scammers that are in these forums!
I've been looking at different forums for a while and there are only scams and clues and nonsense from people who think they know what they say and have no idea, NO IDEA !!! THERE ARE ONLY SCAMMERS !! CAREFUL!!!

Look, I'm going to do something for some of you, just some!

I have a strategy that is the one I have mentioned and it has been working for me for a long time and continues to work despite the great manipulation in Spanish casinos !!
I have another one that wins even in the RNG, but I will never reveal that one, EVER !!

I am going to give the opportunity to some serious people who have really been fighting for years to win at roulette, to have the way to play in real casinos!

The price?? priceless!

Therefore I will do the following, I have made some calculations, of the years that it took me to see this form and the economic effort that it cost me and I have divided it and the result was about 5000 !!!

My proposal is the following:

1- Tell me the full name and the city where you live.
2- Pay by paypal 5000 euros as a product purchase with a trial time of 1 month from when the payment was made.
3- If the strategy does not give you good results, with proof that it has not worked, the immediate refund of all the money will be made, since that money will be blocked by paypal.
But if the strategy works correctly and you do not win what you want, it will not be a problem of the strategy, but of your funds to make bigger bets and have better results.
4- You will have to sign an international confidentiality agreement as you cannot reveal the system or your mother or you will be able to claim compensation that you will put in said writing.
5- I'm only going to give the strategy to 1 person per country!

IMPORTANT!!
With this strategy you will not get rich, but you will be able to enjoy earning good money for whatever you want.
The strategy does not require large funds, it is a completely flat way of playing and the returns are based on the value of your chips.
It is not a strategy that requires spending 4 hours waiting for a particular event, it is a fairly continuous game.
I particularly use it with 6s for the simplicity to play, but in recent years I have created several more ways to apply it and of course it can be applied in more ways, but I am only going to reveal the way to play 6s and with That you can do other ways when you understand how it works, I assure you!
VERY IMPORTANT!!! I AM NOT ANY SCAMMER LIKE OTHERS HERE !!!
They say that I always comply !!!
Do not do to others, what you do not want them to do to you!
I believe there is no need to say anything more!

This is all, if I forget something to say I will communicate it.


Hector
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: 6th-sense on Mar 21, 03:03 PM 2021
I just had to re check you are the same guy on the outsider scam thread .
Thought I had too many el vinos ..

Looks like I haven’t drank enough..

This thread for me is pretty unbelievable..alternative reality kind of stuff after the other thread ...

Good luck sucking people in ..even junscissor hands was more believable
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: el hungaro on Mar 21, 04:13 PM 2021
so you solved the parrondo paradox.I think the legends of the mult that I expected from the Italian child will come now.
Theo d'Alost, Charles Henry, Martin Gall.etc.i love spanish and i also lived there so i don't say anything bad.you are on the wrong path if you take over the Italian style.for your Spanish existence, rather learn the games of the Hermandad paracaidas.What you say is not very believable.Since I'm an optimistic man, let's see the idea.I would be surprised if you showed something new amigo. 
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: game over on Mar 21, 04:30 PM 2021
They are free to comment as long as they have the strategy to be able to comment.
I have no bad intention, on the contrary I am doing something that I should not, but I believe that in life you have to do good things and this is one of them.
Of course, I will not give away anything, but I will not deceive anyone, I give my word!
If someone trusts me and does not have the winning results, he will have his money without any problem because he will be protected by PayPal and because my word is to return in case it does not work.

I could be like others and ask â,¬ 100,000, but does it make any sense if my intention is to help others win? Do not.

I am not forcing anyone, nor am I interested in people's money, I already made my money with my profession and with roulette.

But if I can be rewarded for my work and earn money helping others to earn too, why not do it?

Once someone trusts and sees it with their eyes, surely many will have to shut up and apologize for thinking so badly of me.

In this world there are also good people!

I'm still wondering whether to reveal this form ...
But I have already proposed it, therefore I will move on.

Of course, I only ask that if someone really has it, do not reveal it to anyone and say in the forum that it is true and disappear, because it will be persecuted by others to give it to them.
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: game over on Mar 21, 04:39 PM 2021
Quote from: el hungaro on Mar 21, 04:13 PM 2021
so you solved the parrondo paradox.I think the legends of the mult that I expected from the Italian child will come now.
Theo d'Alost, Charles Henry, Martin Gall.etc.i love spanish and i also lived there so i don't say anything bad.you are on the wrong path if you take over the Italian style.for your Spanish existence, rather learn the games of the Hermandad paracaidas.What you say is not very believable.Since I'm an optimistic man, let's see the idea.I would be surprised if you showed something new amigo.
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Hungarian lord.
what Mr. Lorenzo lizzi has done is a shame and I am not going to do such a thing, my father is a judge and he would kill me, hehehe.
I am not going to explain why it works, because it is something complex to explain.
What I can tell you is that winning is easy, the difficult thing is to win at a manipulated game.
The shape is very simple to apply and is completely flat, although that does not mean that there is no accumulation of chips.
once you know how it works you realize that the roulette has nothing to do, where the ball lands, surely you are almost always and in more or less time it will make you win because the roulette only has "X" numbers or options.
I do not understand yet how there are no more people who realize what is the secret behind the bets!
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: game over on Mar 21, 04:41 PM 2021
Quote from: 6th-sense on Mar 21, 03:03 PM 2021
I just had to re check you are the same guy on the outsider scam thread .
Thought I had too many el vinos ..

Looks like I haven’t drank enough..

This thread for me is pretty unbelievable..alternative reality kind of stuff after the other thread ...

Good luck sucking people in ..even junscissor hands was more believable

hello sir sixth sense.
I have nothing to say to his comment, you are free to think what you want.
you must not have very good "sixth sense" :wink:
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: Cristal2000 on Mar 21, 04:50 PM 2021
Maybe you are crazy?
You have always exploited the goodness of people, also I made at least 30 programs for you, and never, but never received even 10 â,¬
I know your name, you can be recognized very well by the way you write, I do not mention your real name because I am  a gentleman!
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: 6th-sense on Mar 21, 05:20 PM 2021
I think you are right crystal..💪💪 we know who this is
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: game over on Mar 21, 06:24 PM 2021
Quote from: cristal2000 on Mar 21, 04:50 PM 2021
Maybe you are crazy?
You have always exploited the goodness of people, also I made at least 30 programs for you, and never, but never received even 10 â,¬
I know your name, you can be recognized very well by the way you write, I do not mention your real name because I am  a gentleman!

Mr. Crystal 2000.

I don't know who you think I am, but I don't know him at all.


sir sixth sense.
you don't know who you are either.

No person in this forum knows me, nor do I know any person in this forum.

They may continue to think that I am one or the other, but they are wrong.
They are free to think what they want, just like everyone else.
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 21, 06:32 PM 2021
You are Hector Salamanca from Breaking Bad?
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: FreeRoulette on Mar 21, 11:49 PM 2021
@GAME OVER

Would you consider giving me your system and I will pay the $5,000 euros from my profit? If I lose, then there would be no risk to you for paying me back.

Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: game over on Mar 23, 09:33 AM 2021
Quote from: FreeRoulette on Mar 21, 11:49 PM 2021
@GAME OVER

Would you consider giving me your system and I will pay the $5,000 euros from my profit? If I lose, then there would be no risk to you for paying me back.

I have been a little busy...
sir free !!
I appreciate his proposal, but ...
Would you give me a car and when I have used it for a month and see that everything is going correctly, would I pay you? it doesn't work like that ... sorry.
I propose that you dedicate years to find a system and when you find it, I will make a proposal right away and we will see your response.
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: butta on Mar 23, 02:30 PM 2021
Why did you have to buy from another seller if you had a working one?
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: antimodes on Mar 23, 05:19 PM 2021
game over aka sergio lozano aka adrian buzan aka the best scammer in the world :twisted: :xd:
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: game over on Mar 23, 06:00 PM 2021
I will not go into this nonsense that I see often ...
I'm not Sergio, I'm not Adrián, I'm not Lorenzo, I'm not Steve, I'm not ...
But I am one of the few people in the world who can win at roulette!
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 23, 06:20 PM 2021
Quote from: game over on Mar 23, 06:00 PM 2021
I will not go into this nonsense that I see often ...
I'm not Sergio, I'm not Adrián, I'm not Lorenzo, I'm not Steve, I'm not ...
But I am one of the few people in the world who can win at roulette!

Yes, sure. That is why you aks 5000 euro. I can win on online baccarat, and what? I sell for 300, but I accept 250 too, becasue it is not about money, this money just for the work, and I would never ask few thousand euros, it is shame and disgusting. It is helping to beat the game, but not free, but not for such a big money, especially in this pandemic situation, shame on you what you did whit mr. outsider too.

"I love this game and I can win for more than 2 years" -> yes, that is why you cry here like a baby, or a lost dinosaur, and asking money for your method.

"When I lose some money, I have no problem, I just play and get my money back, the casino and roulette give it back to me, hahaha." -> yes, that is why you buyed outsider method  :D
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: game over on Mar 23, 06:44 PM 2021
Mr. eko.
I already explained the reason why I have paid several things, not only to a stranger, there have been more people who pay thinking that they would have something interesting and at the moment they were all scams.
I have no problem paying if the money I pay is worth the information or strategy I pay, everything can be learned.
My intention is only to know more and more and paying is not the problem, the problem is that there are only scammers, none have shown a winning strategy.
In this as in other forums there are several people who have said that they can win, but none have proven anything and those who have asked for money are just stew.
At no time have I cried about the money, but if I am very angry at people who take advantage of others, that is why I exposed it in the forum and I have also shared privately everything that Lorenzo sent me so that they can see the scam that is.
Regarding what you ask for your baccarat strategy, it seems very good to me that everyone is free to value more or less their effort and time.
For you only â,¬ 300 is enough to compensate your time and work, for me there is no price for all the time and work I have had to get it.
I have been too good at setting that price and being fair with PayPal payment protection, otherwise I would, like many others, ask for money through skrill, western Union ... impossible for me to free myself, I can never keep the money if the person is not satisfied.
Then there are others who ask up to â,¬ 100,000 ... That is outrageous !!!!
But â,¬ 5000 will not be a lot for most of the people on this forum !!
And it is nothing compared to the time and money that I and invested.

I'm not going to continue replying to messages about nonsense.

They have an opportunity, whoever wants it will not regret it and whoever does not want it, it is unnecessary to write nonsense!

But for many of you it is a unique opportunity, surely for all!

When I get tired of all this nonsense towards myself, I will leave and I will not give it to anyone!
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 23, 07:20 PM 2021
so it is game over ?
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: insider on Mar 23, 07:26 PM 2021
Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 23, 07:20 PM 2021
so it is game over ?

I hope, but i have my doubts...
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: travis on Mar 25, 01:31 AM 2021
Quote from: antimodes on Mar 23, 05:19 PM 2021
game over aka sergio lozano aka adrian buzan aka the best scammer in the world :twisted: :xd:
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: roulette passion >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: stranger90 on Mar 25, 08:12 PM 2021
Paypal is not safe at all, you can withdraw the money with a fake account, throw the card associated and bye bye. Your account will become -5,000 but the client will not receive a penny back until your balance is not filled back.
Nice try tho.
And I agree, you seem to use grandious words a lot like Adrian and all his avatars. I hope you get stabbed 5000 times for reaping naive folks.
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: game over on Mar 25, 11:13 PM 2021
I understand that you can't win at roulette ... but ...
Wishing someone stabbed 5000 times seems to me like little kids and someone really frustrated that they can't get what they want.
I will tell you something about PayPal, I have been able to recover the â,¬ 725 that I put as a PayPal product purchase from Mr. Lorenzo and it is not the first time that I have recovered money this way.
If I send it as money friend, of course you will not get it back if the other party does not want to ...

By the way I don't know who is Adrian Buzan, who is he?

Sergio, if I know him and the truth is that people speak very badly about him, he is actually a good guy and knows a lot about roulette, he is a man who takes it very seriously and we have been in contact for a long time and he has taught me many good things and I also taught him some things.

But you should not wish anything bad to anyone, because the more you want that kind of thing, the more things will happen to you and your family because of that negativity and that desire for evil, it is only my advice sir !!
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: stranger90 on Mar 26, 08:15 PM 2021
Adrian be careful, you will be stabbed soon. Whenever I say I say somerhing will or should happen something, bad, I suffer somthing bad myself. Thats's how I know the spell will work. Today I was in a horrible car accident. Something really bad is after you, you will know it once you meet it. I am not sorry for anything, you and your family deserve anything that is coming
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: stranger90 on Mar 26, 08:21 PM 2021
Ans if your karma hits later, then don't fewl nad that yout kid was hit bya car. You have caused it
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: gianfrancopierino on Jun 10, 08:28 PM 2021
when having the holly grail you dont sell it, you play it and win, you search friends to play and get percentage of winnings, limited number of people. exeprience accumulated over the years.
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: zhone on Jun 10, 08:38 PM 2021
Quote from: game over on Mar 25, 11:13 PM 2021
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I will tell you something about PayPal, I have been able to recover the â,¬ 725 that I put as a PayPal product purchase from Mr. Lorenzo and it is not the first time that I have recovered money this way.
...

I experienced similarly with Paypal, recovering the money paid for homestay when the owner refused to honour the terms.
Title: Re: This is a real and serious proposition !!
Post by: gianfrancopierino on Jun 14, 10:49 AM 2021
Quote from: stranger90 on Mar 26, 08:21 PM 2021
Ans if your karma hits later, then don't fewl nad that yout kid was hit bya car. You have caused it

Karma is just a fancy word for the consequences, if a person engages in taking other peoples things there will be a time he is caught, not karma, consequences.