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Title: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 09, 09:09 PM 2022
Kimo Li says, in his blog:

The ultimate strategy, does it exist?
How many spins do you need to record before you start placing your bets?
I use to say 12 spins, then 8 spins, then, 4 spins, all of which still holds true.

I never revealed this to anyone, until now, NO spins.

What?
That's right, the ultimate strategy requires no history of spins.
It does require a whole lot of thought, work, and privileged knowledge.

Solve the puzzle and the world is yours.
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 09, 09:12 PM 2022
Hi, I am Sweet,
I had refrain to post anymore but cant help with this post :twisted: ,

How Kimo Li, bet straight away, without any reference to past spins? Very simple, by betting a signature event, a very rare to happen event , and risked his br.
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: winkel on Oct 10, 06:29 AM 2022
Quote from: SWEET on Oct 09, 09:12 PM 2022How Kimo Li, bet straight away, without any reference to past spins? Very simple, by betting a signature event, a very rare to happen event , and risked his br.

KimoLi is right.
You can look back as far as you want your next bet will lose or win.
So you can start betting any chance. Your bet will lose or win.
It is the same procedure.
And whatever you will choose to do next, your bet will lose or win.
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: Bebediktus3 on Oct 10, 09:17 AM 2022
Quote from: winkel on Oct 10, 06:29 AM 2022You can look back as far as you want your next bet will lose or win.
So you can start betting any chance. Your bet will lose or win.
Ha, if you go to the street you can meet an elephant or not meet...but that not means, that chance to meet an elephant in Deli is the same as the chance in Oslo...
And this slight difference in chances does some players - winners and others - losers... :)
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 10, 12:31 PM 2022
Professor Winkel,
You have deep knowledge in betting.
You have any ideas, how one could bet immediately, (without reference to past spins), how many spins needed, stop loss, profit target and the br needed, and the risk/ reward ratio?
Thanks.
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: winkel on Oct 10, 03:27 PM 2022
Quote from: SWEET on Oct 10, 12:31 PM 2022You have any ideas, how one could bet immediately, (without reference to past spins), how many spins needed, stop loss, profit target and the br needed, and the risk/ reward ratio?
Thanks.

And this all in 1 sentence?  O0

I´ll try: Take the date of the day, bet this number for 34 times with 1 unit, bankroll needed 34 units, stop in a win, stop in a loss of 34u, expect ratio at statistical probability.
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 10, 08:58 PM 2022
Thanks Professor Winkel, for your reply.
Every self-respect ed member here, could immediately see and understand, Professor Winkel's undisputable solid knowledge in betting!

Personally, one of the "signature event", one could exploit, is bet that, in next four spins, single dozen, wont hit, xxxx, for, four time.

eg, bet dozen one, wont hit, 1111 in next four spins.

The question, is money management!

The usual 1,1,3,3,9,9...double dozen progression, will be too dangerous.
A special mm can overcome, the great losses, if 1111 hit.
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: winkel on Oct 11, 03:37 AM 2022
If you wanna play dozens:

1. Don´t ask me for a strategy
2. look at your money and say farewell
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 11, 08:44 AM 2022
Thanks Professor Winkel, for your advice.

If not dozen,
what you,
sir,
prefer?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: winkel on Oct 11, 09:42 AM 2022
Straight up only. Perhaps streets as well
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 11, 08:07 PM 2022
Thanks Professor Winkel.

It seems that,

in next 6spins,
 only 4ds hit,

happen,
mostly of the time,

 only 5ds , or, 3ds, hit,
come second,

and only 1ds or all 6ds hit,

 in next 6spins,

happen about once in 200spins.

Thus how to bet only 4ds,
with special mm?

Thats something to ponder.
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: TRD on Oct 12, 05:57 PM 2022
Interesting, can you produce the same stats for streets -- 3-number positions.
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 12, 07:33 PM 2022
TRD,
I have no data for street, I got that ds data, from Stringbeanpc posting in Kimo Li's blog.
(thanks to Stringbeanpc)
But for some reasons, known best to Kimo Li, he DELETED that post!
(Maybe Stringbeanpc, could help, he a good programer. Pm him.)
I could only deduce,  roughly , since,
5 hit in 6spins is 30/37=81%, then betting 5ds schemes, all the way, next 6spins, for some good streaks, but with special mm.
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 12, 10:33 PM 2022
Only one DS hit, in next 6 spins is rare,
Thus, if,
eg.
DS1 hit,
Then 111111 in next 6spins is rare occurrence.

Say, previous spin=DS1 hit,
Thus bet the other five DS, for next 5spins.
(You may add, only red, high, or odd, by ,say, follow the last appeared.)
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: winkel on Oct 13, 03:10 AM 2022
OMG!

 :girl_to:
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 13, 09:39 AM 2022
We must understand that, next spin, is part of "future" "significant event of probabilities",
Thus, what the highest probability, and take risk to bet it, as if it going to happen.
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 13, 07:39 PM 2022
lets imagine, you in a casino, not playing, but look at the roulette...after 6spins, you see,
"Oh! Only four ds hit in six spins...if I had bet 4ds after this, it surely hit "..

Then after six spins,"Oh! Only five ds hit...if i had bet 4ds after that, it surely hit",

then after six spins..."only 3ds hit, if I had bet this..that.this."

if you spent whole day, you will see 3,4,5 ds hit in 6spins, whole time,

and ,
6different ds in 6spins,
 or only 1ds.
 in 6spins,
 maybe,
once a day...

its only an oversimplified example, so you could understand, what is "signature event".
Event that always happens, must happen,
or rarely happens, so you could bet them with special mm.

this how you walk into, sit at the table, look at the tote, "ahh! 1,2 ds had hit, and bet next few spins, win or lose, walk away to another table...
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 13, 07:49 PM 2022
if you cant understand.

just open your old data, or open your online game, and jolt down every ds in six spins row, and see how many ds hit in every 6spins row.
most of the time, it has 3,4,5 ds hit in a row, see for yourself, and the question, is how you take advantage, and bet with special mm...

121234(four ds)
xxxxxx
xxxxxx
xxxxxx
xxxxxx
so on
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: MoneyT101 on Oct 13, 09:17 PM 2022
Quote from: SWEET on Oct 13, 07:49 PM 2022if you cant understand
most of the time, it has 3,4,5 ds hit in a row, see for yourself, and the question, is how you take advantage, and bet with special mm...

121234(four ds)
xxxxxx
xxxxxx
xxxxxx
xxxxxx
so on

This has already been proven in the forum using cycles.

Ds cycle repeat 93% of the time from last 3 ds


Straight cycle repeats 99% from last 18 numbers

Splits cycle repeat 99% from last 9 numbers

Streets cycle repeat 99% from last 6 numbers

Not easy to take advantage of it directly.  Need to think outside of the box
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 14, 02:23 AM 2022
Thanks TRD your post,
You say that...

"Ds cycle repeat 93% of the time from last 3 ds"

This is very-very interesting!

Could you please, give long data, example,of, how to read the ds cycle repeat 93%, so we could understand more.
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 14, 02:41 AM 2022
This already stale since casino open shop, nevertheless,
I still post these dozens matrix...

This is 27 dozen in three spins...
variations:

111 211 311
112 212 312
113 213 313
121 221 321
122 222 322
123 223 323
131 231 331
132 232 332
133 233 333

What the events that always happen , must happen, rarely happen, low %? in next 3,6,9spins?

in next 3spins,
four events must happen.

*three same dozen.
111,or 222,or 333

*three different dz.
123,321,231..etc

*TWO DIFFERENT DZ,
which first and second dz not same.

121,131,313,232...
etc

*two different dz,
where first and second dz SAME...

112,113,112,221...
etc


If we bet, with all dz matrix bet,
then three DIFFERENT
DZ hit, is 6/27=22.2%.

But if we bet, after two different dz hit, then three different dz in 3spins=33.33%...

Thats something to ponder...

111 follow by
222 follow by
333....
maybe once in few hundreds spins
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: Person S on Oct 14, 05:47 AM 2022
We have nine combinations that start with 11-22-33. (not interested)
And six combinations where all three choices are different.(oh - that's what we want!)
There are 12 combinations where the first two dozen are different.(this is where we start betting - after 2 different)
Bottom line.
Six times we win two chips and 12 times we lose one. The result = 0.
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: Person S on Oct 14, 05:51 AM 2022
Quote from: MoneyT101 on Oct 13, 09:17 PM 2022Need to think outside of the box
Mel, can you teach us?
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 15, 06:27 AM 2022
You wanna a HG,
READ below, and,

THINK,

VERY-VERY-VERY...


HARD!

you will AHA!

Thanks raymanz,
for data below.

in a particular,
 66k spins euro, test.

how many times, a matrix repeat itself.

123=dz1,dz2,dz3.

how many occurrence.

123 123:hit 31 times
132 132: 35 times
213 213: 30 times
231 231: 30 times
312 312: 26 times
321 321: 28 times
111 111: 23
222 222: 22
333 333: 26

123: appeared 831
132: 854
213: 824
231: 807
312: 771
321: 802
111: 774
222: 790
333: 795 times

123 123: 31
132 132: 35
213 213: 30
231 231: 30
312 312: 26
321 321: 28
111 111: 23
222 222: 22
333 333: 26

i see 1 2 3 about once every 100 spins
and 123 123 ....31 times in 60,000 spins

ONCE EVERY 1,900 spins you will see 123 123.

Thanks raymanz, for the data.

Thus, you see,
66k/3
=22000rows matrix.


thus 123, then 123 hit again...

22k/31
=around
1in 710matrix

831/22k
=around 27%...

831-31=800rows

800/31
=around once in
26 appearances...

31repeat/800rows
=3.9%

THATS,
something to ponder!
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: SWEET on Oct 15, 06:32 AM 2022
Actually,
the
123123,
321322,
231232, etc,
have
SAME PROBABILITY,

as...
112112.
or

311311,
221221,

etc,
every matrix of three,
mathwise,
 has,

SAME,
PROBABILITY...



This is 27 dozen in three spins...
variations:

111 211 311
112 212 312
113 213 313
121 221 321
122 222 322
123 223 323
131 231 331
132 232 332
133 233 333
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: ᶦ ᵃᵐ|Ä-łëx on Oct 15, 08:08 AM 2022
That's an HG
Title: Re: KIMO LI BOASTING:NO SPIN!
Post by: MoneyT101 on Oct 15, 11:02 AM 2022
Quote from: Person S on Oct 14, 05:51 AM 2022Mel, can you teach us?

I've shared what I know