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Title: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Will1196 on Jun 14, 07:34 AM 2023
Hello,

I'm not here to sell anything but just to tell to peoples who are searching for Holy Grail that it does exist.

What I call an Holy Grail is a system that is able to reach your initial bankroll before you lose it all and that is able to make profit on the long term.

I also want to tell you the rules I always followed to find it, here they are :

1 - Each is spin is independant
2 - The wheel still follow a patern and got an equilibrium. Randomness got his limits.

Cheers and good luck


Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on Aug 08, 02:53 AM 2023
The whole "randon has limits" notion is nonsense. To anyone who understands, what you said indicates you certainly don't have the hg.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: bigmoney on Aug 16, 06:36 PM 2023
As usual another holy grail ....dogshit post .....whata croc of shit
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: bigmoney on Sep 30, 05:04 PM 2023
What a dogshit post
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: ash190 on Oct 09, 08:38 AM 2023
Where is the holy grail LOL, bro not even telling a technique or what
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 09, 05:50 PM 2023
I have the Holy Grail.
So what?

I am certain that anyone who responds negatively to this post does not have it.
It is what it is.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on Oct 12, 07:18 PM 2023
Ive never seen a single convincing claim someone has the holy grail.

You can use fancy patterns that exist only in your head, or are just normal random diatribution being misunderstood. If you test enough spins, the average win rate will still be the same as random.

What we do have in forums is delusion and inexperience.

The only way to beat roulette is by understanding legitimate cause and effect, then applying this knowledge to predict the next spin.

I'll gladly eat my words if anyone proved otherwise. And not a single person in decades has shown any proof of their claims. All I get is deluded nonsense and repackaged gamblers fallacy.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 13, 05:44 PM 2023
QuoteThe only way to beat roulette is by understanding legitimate cause and effect, then applying this knowledge to predict the next spin.

Steve, so is this the holy grail or close to it?


You have offered 100,000.00 for the holy grail.
Obviously, no one has claimed that prize.


You know as well as I do, that no one will ever reveal the holy grail at any price.


Why have a roulette forum if
QuoteIve never seen a single convincing claim someone has the holy grail.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: SWEET on Oct 14, 09:58 AM 2023
Kimo Li's holy grail, is based on TWO ,"highly unlikely pattern to hit", combination.

He then bet the other numbers, not in that pattern  to hit.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: SWEET on Oct 14, 10:05 AM 2023
in an OVERSIMPLIFIED example...

ONLY two stars, and only two pies to hit, in next six spins, is rare.
Thus, bet them in pinwheel dozen bet, leave out, not betting, the two stars, and two pies numbers, that had hit, as other four stars and four pies, are more likely to hit, in next few spins.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: 6th-sense on Oct 14, 02:18 PM 2023
Quote from: SWEET on Oct 14, 10:05 AM 2023ONLY two stars, and only two pies to hit, in next six spins, is rare.
Thus, bet them in pinwheel dozen bet, leave out, not betting, the two stars, and two pies numbers, that had hit, as other four stars and four pies, are more likely to hit, in next few spins.


listen sweet,,,,you jump at anything ,,,get some self respect,,,i,m  glad kimo has not divulged anything to you ,,you would tell the world.......he has given enough info..

your actions are either to provoke a response from kimo himself or get members to try your ideas out...show some respect ...kimo  i can only apolgise...for sweet

Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: SWEET on Oct 14, 07:24 PM 2023
 6th-sense.

thank you so much for your kind words.

i respect your right to say anything here.

i do not try to provoke anyone here.

i just post what i think...period.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: SWEET on Oct 14, 08:06 PM 2023
if we bet a single game, we win and lose ,and at the end ,still lose.

if we bet two or three games at once, and only bet ..


overlapping numbers,


 or color,
 or groups,


then we lose at math,


but win at high probability.

for OVERSIMPLIFIED example.


in 6spins,
 only 4pies, and only four stars, to hit are high,thus at 5th spin, we bet only four stars and pies ..

PLUS,

only two dozens


 to hit.(after two dozen had hit)

..thus we bet ONLY the overlapping number, (less numbers), to hit.

Holy grail doest mean win absolutely 100%, every bet, but in long term win more than lose....this what i think.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: SWEET on Oct 14, 08:35 PM 2023
another OVERSIMPLIFIED eg.

if we bet ONLY red and ONLY odd, together, then we win and lose, and still succumbed to math expectation...

but...

if we combine, say, with ,

(after 5spins, only 4pies/stars hit),

 then at 6th spin,


 bet, ONLY, the red/odd, that overlapping the 4stars 4pies, thus lose at math, but win at higher probabilities.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: SWEET on Oct 14, 08:56 PM 2023
the idea is simply FOCUS, few games probabilities, of area or group to hit.

Let say, you have three games, all games have high probability to hit at certain parts of the wheel, then when after x spins, all the games signal trigger, then you bet the overlapping numbers, color or grouping.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: SWEET on Oct 14, 09:20 PM 2023
"RANDOM HAS LIMIT",

is not nonsense...

maybe the wording no accurate..

it should be..

(RANDOM HAS higher,

HIGHLY UNLIKELY PROBABILITIES ,

as it goes longer).

Thus you never see a row of 10zero, or red hit 90/100.

it very highly unlikely, though INDEPENDENTLY, red is 50/50, but

AS A GROUP, the probability is not 50/50.

So a row of RED,
the longer, to hit in row, the lower the probability.

Two red in row.
20 red in row.
30 red in row.
40 red in row.

the unlikely probabilities, go higher and higher.

Thus any pattern or grouping has their own highly UNLIKELY probability...

though, individually
next spin, red, 50/50 albeit zero.

BUT, in a row,
the longer,
the unlikely...probability goes higher and higher...
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 15, 03:20 PM 2023
@6th sense,

Thanks 6th sense, I can only control my own actions.


SWEET, I respect your interpretation of my matrix.
But, I must let the roulette community know that I do not approach roulette in this manner.
The holy grail must have the following criteria:

Proper bankroll
No tracking cards
No previous spins
Bet every spin, as live tables require
No time limit
Use any strategy, sometimes including the traditional outside bets to look like an amateur
Stop when you meet your target



Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: SWEET on Oct 16, 10:53 AM 2023
Dear Sensei Kimo Li,
Thank you so much,
for your comments.


You say,

"No previous spin",

I  think you bet an EVENT,
that highly unlikely to materialize...

or , if it likely to materialize,

then you bet, not the entire number, but certain numbers...

For OVERSIMPLIFIED example...

sit at the table,
bet dozen 1 will not hit in 1st spin,
if lose,

then bet dz2, will not hit in 2nd spin...
if lose,

then bet dz3, will not hit in  3rd spin.

repeat for 4th,5th,6th spin



let say in 1st spin, number 1 hit,

 thus we bet dz2 will not hit,

 but leave out the star and pie numbers group of number 1...

then if dz2 hit in 2nd spin,say number13,

then we bet dz3, will not hit in the 3rd spin, but leave out the star and pie number of number1 and number 13.

if lose the 3rd spin, then we bet the 4th, 5th and lastly, the 6th spin..

why 6spins,
because stars and pies bet,

only effective in six spins.

this is OVERSIMPLIFIED EXAMPLE...


Hope
Sensei say something about this?
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: TriCycle on Oct 16, 01:42 PM 2023
From my observations...
1 - Each is spin is independant
Which means we should be between independence
2 - The wheel still follow a patern and got an equilibrium. Randomness got his limits.
The wheel follows nothing, but the numbers always have equalness. Only the House has limits.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: TriCycle on Oct 16, 02:05 PM 2023
And
to further my observations you can't win with your funds.
Everything about this game is equal if you play it the way it wants to be played.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: TriCycle on Oct 16, 02:22 PM 2023
If I had three loaded dice with different probabilities which one would you choose?
If I had three numbers how can you choose?
These questions mean something about our thinking has to change.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 16, 03:30 PM 2023
Whether I am betting 1 number or all 36 numbers, the outcome is always the same, profit.

Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: daveylibra on Oct 18, 02:25 PM 2023
Kimo, try 'betting all 36 numbers' and profit!

I thought you were an expert?
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: SWEET on Oct 19, 08:01 AM 2023
He mean...

1number of SPIN...

36numbers of SPIN...

why 36spin?

there 36stars numbers...

6stars x 6group=36...


not every group will hit EQUALLY in next 36spin...

1 or 2 group of star numbers,. will hit higher than others...
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 19, 09:54 AM 2023
QuoteKimo, try 'betting all 36 numbers' and profit!

I thought you were an expert?

How is it possible?

The secret is in the amount of bets placed on each number divide in to "groups" in a series of progressive betting. Let's take a simple example.


23
5
29
3
22

R
R
B
R
B

R  R hit, B miss +1 -1 = 0
R  R hit, B miss +1 -3 = -2 black is on a progression
B  R miss, B hit -1 +9 = 8 black hits progression
R  R hit, B miss +3 -1 = 2 red hits progression
B  R miss, B hits -1 +3 = 2

etc...

Up 10 units

Each group is bet separately with it's own progression.

And yes, I am an expert.

Warning: Not for amateurs or closed minded people.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: daveylibra on Oct 19, 10:53 AM 2023
Kimo, no expert would ever bet on 'all 36 numbers.'
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: daveylibra on Oct 19, 12:37 PM 2023
Sweet, if he meant 36 spins, then what does this mean -

"Whether I am betting 1 number or all 36 numbers the outcome is always the same, profit."
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 19, 03:03 PM 2023
QuoteKimo, no expert would ever bet on 'all 36 numbers.'

My point is a player CAN bet 36 numbers and PROFIT.
You obviously can't get that past your mind.

Personally, I don't 36 numbers. However, as an expert I am ABLE to do so and PROFIT.



Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: daveylibra on Oct 19, 05:38 PM 2023
Lol Kimo, I hope you are not using any real money.

Your statement above is ridiculous. Anyone else care to comment on this?
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 19, 09:32 PM 2023
Yes, comments are welcomed.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 20, 12:04 PM 2023
Perhaps the idea is too controversial that no one wants to respond in fear of sounding stupid.
Or, the idea is so absurd that it is stupid, not worthy of a comment. Frankly, I don't care.

Another thought of contention: Who cares about memorizing the numbers on the roulette wheel?
Where is the value in doing so?

I am curious. How many of you so called roulette players support such an idea?

I ask these questions because this aspect of memorizing the numbers on the roulette wheel leads to the holy grail, a topic of this thread.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: TriCycle on Oct 20, 04:05 PM 2023
As far as I'm aware there is no memorizing of anything, just basic math and a set plan.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 21, 06:07 PM 2023
QuoteAs far as I'm aware there is no memorizing of anything, just basic math and a set plan.

So, TriCycle,

What do you mean by a set plan?
System, method, or the soup of the day?
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 21, 06:26 PM 2023
I logged into a YouTube channel, Roulette Tube, 10/20/23 session.
I played along as though I was playing live for fun.
I recorded the numbers that were generated.

7
14
9
16
1
26
29
19
30
35
5
1
32
13
32
20
30
8
10
21
16
16

Can anyone distinguish any patterns that would benefit the player?
I will show you how I exploited the numbers, using a very simple visual principle based on the importance of memorizing the roulette wheel and the relationship with the numbers on the layout.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: number25 on Oct 21, 07:28 PM 2023
BET ONLY 02 04 06 08 10 11 
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 21, 08:55 PM 2023
Sorry, I need to clarify.

This is not to predict what is next. Rather what strategy one would have chosen after 4 spins.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 22, 01:24 AM 2023
Why is it important to memorize the roulette numbers, in this case, on the series of the European wheel?


For one, it allows the player to have a reference on how the ball is moving about the wheel.

I will show you how easy it is to identify ball movement in regards to dealer signature, without knowing the series of number.

All you have to know is how the wheel is divided into two halves.


Beginning at the single zero, clockwise, the first half of the wheel is made up of HIGH RED and LOW BLACK numbers.

The other half is made up of HIGH BLACK and LOW RED numbers.

Using the numbers posted above, we can see how the ball is moving from spin to spin. Keep in mind, the dealer is alternating spins from clockwise CW to counter clockwise CCW.

LR 7
LR 14
LR 9
LR 16
LR 1
HB 26
HB 29

HR 19
HR 30

HB 35
LR 5
LR 1

HR 32
LB 13
HR 32

HB 20

HR 30
LB 8
LB 10
HR 21

LR 16
LR 16

The first seven numbers is in the first half of the wheel.

This tells me the dealer's signature has a wheel spin and ball spin that is synchronized to fall in the same half.

So now you can look at any number and know which half of the wheel the ball is falling without knowing the series of numbers on the wheel.

There is a strategy that exploits this kind of pattern.
That's a different story.

My point is memorizing the numbers on the wheel has it's place.

Visually, it is easy to see low red and high black combinations, as well as low black and high red.

 









Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 22, 01:38 AM 2023
QuoteThe first seven numbers is in the first half of the wheel.

*Correction: The first seven numbers is on the second half of the wheel.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: alexlaf on Oct 22, 05:31 AM 2023
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Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: number25 on Oct 22, 10:10 AM 2023
So Kimo Li just taught us how to bet just 18 numbers.  Now we can reduce that to a smaller bet if one likes.


Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 22, 02:32 PM 2023
Well I don't want to leave out our fellow American wheel players.

European players have HR/LB and LR/HB, (RED and BLACK)

The American roulette wheel is defined by (ODD and EVEN).

HIGH ODD and LOW EVEN
HIGH EVEN and LOW ODD

HO/LE
HE/LO

31 HO
10 LE
23 HO
35 HO
19 HO

1  LO
5  LO

38 HE (00 DOUBLE ZERO) - 37 HO (0 SINGLE ZERO)

35 HO

20 HE

19 HO
25 HO

34 HE
36 HE

6  LE
27 HO
12 LE
19 HO

7  LO
20 HE
17 LO

29 HO
33 HO
8  LE
31 HO
18 LE
10 LE

I share this information to let the roulette players know there is roulette language I have been trying to advocate so we can speak the same language.

This journey started when I revealed my ideas in 2005 via my books, European and American innovations.

I figured out that the roulette players are divided by "tribal" language. I had envisioned a language of roulette professional players.

What I find in roulette forums are competing egos. Roulette players has been oppressed from building the roulette "Tower of Babel," perhaps by a higher power, stopping the masses from attaining the holy grail.

We should unite, speak one professional language, and build the tower of roulette, the language of GPM (Global Pie Method). This is the Kimo Li Way.

This is the only way to attain the holy grail.
Show me another way. I have an open mind.



Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: TriCycle on Oct 23, 01:57 PM 2023
A basic plan is something that has to happen and it could be described as soup, yes.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 23, 02:34 PM 2023
Can you show an example using the spins posted above?

7
14
9
16
1
26
29
19
30
35
5
1
32
13
32
20
30
8
10
21
16
16
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 23, 03:05 PM 2023
There are many ways we can use the sum of numbers to track what is happening on the layout.
One strategy, called Lollipop, a term used by a GPM member, PokerTwist takes advantage of the numbers in the rows. Instead of betting 12 numbers in a column, the player uses only 9 numbers per row.

How is that achieved?

We divide the layout numbers into 4 groups
We convert the number into the sum of the digits.
The sum of these numbers will show what row each number belongs to.

Group number 1
10 13 16 19 22 25 28 31 34 Row One
Converted numbers
01 04 07 01 04 07 01 04 07 (147)

Group number 2
11 14 17 20 23 26 29 32 35 Row Two
Converted numbers
02 05 08 02 05 08 02 05 08 (258)

Group number 3
12 15 18 21 24 27 30 33 36 Row Three
Converted numbers
03 06 09 03 06 09 03 06 09 (369)

Group number 4
01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 Special group quad group that stands alone.

So now let's look at what the group looks like when applied to the previous number example.


7    4
14   2
9    4
16   1
1    4
26   2
29   2
19   1
30   3
35   2
5    4
1    4
32   2
13   4
32   2
20   2
30   3
8    4
10   1
21   3
16   1
16   1

If you combine any of these groups to form 18 numbers, for example 4 and 2 / 1 and 3 the hits would look like this.

Keep in mind, converting the numbers quickly identifies what row the number belongs to.
Isolating group 4 and 2.


7    4    X
14   2    X
9    4    X
16   1
1    4    X
26   2    X
29   2    X
19   1
30   3
35   2    X
5    4    X
1    4    X
32   2    X
13   4    X
32   2    X
20   2    X
30   3
8    4    X
10   1
21   3
16   1
16   1

This is only one example of exploiting the table layout.

This is the ROULETTE MINDSET of a professional roulette player.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: donik7777 on Oct 23, 08:47 PM 2023
Kimo
You  want show that group 2 and 4 have more probability to happen with same odds?

Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 23, 09:59 PM 2023
This technique of identifying certain patterns like HR/LB and HB/LR (European), LO/HE and LE/HO (American), along with ROW characters, 147 258 369 is only a small sample of indicators to implement specific strategies that take advantage of current state of spins being generated.

A simple indicator is numbers that are RED.
One would think if red numbers are being spun, the logical bet would be RED.

If one is provided with certain indicators, would it not be to the advantage of the player to use a strategy that captures these patterns?






Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: TRD on Oct 28, 02:38 PM 2023
@Kimo, correct where you think is wrong & why?

Iregardless of how you opt to categorize the roulette outcomes as in a certain context (wheel, pies & stars, felt, etc.), the trends form, extend in duration & fizzle out in the same way.
 Obviously using the same numbers the actual manifestation differs of how those unfold depending on how they are represented within each context, but nonetheless the above holds true.

There might be some advantage of having several of such context shuffled, so having them available as options & as the numbers come out & trends form recognize those in them, & thus activate those as one of the possible representations.
 Using a parachute-based system utilizing variuus payouts th8s happens pretty much automatically, as shifting through the payouts & identifying the currently trending repeats of zones = grouped su numbers out, various of such tracks are readily-available.


So what is other advantage of representing the numbers as eg. splitting the wheel in half, beside the obvious pre-qualifying of the trends that way, ss in my experience that does not affectt the lenght of trends, meanwhile utilizing the recent repeats & switching those as the trends fizzle out I've noticed i get hits a bit sooner; anything else?
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 30, 02:13 PM 2023
Quote@Kimo, correct where you think is wrong & why?

Correct what?

I have a difficult time understanding what you are trying to convey because our sentences run in a string of thoughts that I cannot follow.

What is your point?
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: TRD on Oct 30, 05:54 PM 2023
Besides identifying trends, what's any other advantage of grouping the numbers like that?
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 30, 07:06 PM 2023
Let me educate you in a string of posts.
First post.

These are the European roulette numbers in a linear fashion beginning with number 32

32 15 19 04 21 02 25 17 34 06 27 13 36 11 30 08 23 10 05 24 16 33 01 20 14 31 09 22 18 29 07 28 12 35 06 26 0

So now what?

Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 30, 07:13 PM 2023
We group these numbers into six groups excluding the 0

32 15 19 04 21 02    25 17 34 06 27 13    36 11 30 08 23 10    05 24 16 33 01 20    14 31 09 22 18 29    07 28 12 35 06 26

So now we label each group 04 06 08 05 09 07

Why?
Each of these number are located in each group respectively.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 30, 07:16 PM 2023
The first three groups are EVEN groups 04 06 08, half of the wheel

32 15 19 04 21 02    25 17 34 06 27 13    36 11 30 08 23 10 

  

The second three groups are ODD groups 05 09 07

05 24 16 33 01 20    14 31 09 22 18 29    07 28 12 35 06 26
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 30, 07:22 PM 2023
Each group is assigned a position.

32 15 19 04 21 02    25 17 34 06 27 13    36 11 30 08 23 10    05 24 16 33 01 20    14 31 09 22 18 29    07 28 12 35 06 26

01 02 03 04 05 06    01 02 03 04 05 06    01 02 03 04 05 06    01 02 03 04 05 06    01 02 03 04 05 06    01 02 03 04 05 06

Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 30, 07:37 PM 2023
The assigned numbers of 01 02 03 04 05 06 are the Global Star numbers.

01 = 32 25 36 05 14 07
02 = 15 17 11 24 31 28
03 = 19 34 30 16 09 12
04 = 04 06 08 33 22 35
05 = 21 27 23 01 22 06
06 = 02 13 10 20 29 26

This is the map of the European Global Pie and Global Star.
Kimo Li's European Roulette Matrix.

Now, this map is used by the Global Pie roulette professional to communicate the behavior of the ball.

For example, the last spin is number 15 (Global Pie 4, Global Star 2)
The next spin is 16 (Global Pie 5, Global Star 3)

Looking at the Global Pie Map the ball has moved in a BOWTIE direction, from one half of the wheel to the other.

And the Global Star number position has move one position, clockwise.

Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 30, 07:43 PM 2023
I created this map in 2006 for roulette players to use a standard map so roulette players can communicate to each other when describing ball movement, details may be found in my books, The European Roulette book and The Roulette Formula.

The AP guys can use this map to describe ball release to non-AP players as a means to communicate their ideas. 
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 30, 07:45 PM 2023
Wake up people. This map has been around for 17 years.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 31, 02:59 AM 2023
Crickets...
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: TRD on Oct 31, 10:00 AM 2023
Again, you haven't addressed the question.
What you described is pure basics & offered nothing else than to go buy your book.

There's also too much morality on your webpage, for the lack of more appropriate wording,
where in short you are basically using knowledge as a leverage to enslave people.

Just like the so-called light always does, pretending to be good,
meanwhile in this case trading knowledge in exchange of bounding people,
meaning installing psychological & other types of mechanisms barring them of certain types of actions,
making them reactionary, dependent & to you inferior, plus even if the trade is solely accepted by their own consent,
slavery by consent, establishing their inferiority through conditioning, its in essence the definition of enslavement itself.
By accepting the trade of & the esoteric knowledge itself, through those mechanism becoming inferiorily bound to you.

Do I blame you, no. Every group that acquired an advanced type of knowledge has an interest of keeping the advantage. The difference is types of ways of ensuring that. Just because you offer thaf through their own consent, a trade that ultimately serves your & potentially your group's intentions, doesn't make it any better than any other way. Its enslavement in itself, just the mechanisms that are applied & enforced is not through the physical subjugation primarily. The trouble is you somehow pretend you & your way is better, meanwhile painting the ways you want to 'protect' them from, may actually be freedom itself.

The truth, the knowledge of truth, the knowlege itself, accompanied with some other things sets free, posses the quality of setting free. You are just ensuring to enslave those that intend to realize that freedom just on a brink of realizing it. Doing that by associating the restriction & condition  with that knowledge & offer it as a trade, interjecting the paths & although awaiting a consent meanwhile portraying as a force of good, corrupting the thing that in itself sets free. Malware.

Ever thought of that? Most likely, yes ..



BTW

This Global Pie mapping is just one way of representing the 37 numbers.
Each number has equal 1/37 probability of success.

Which ever way the numbers are grouped,
the trends form & can be identified ..
however due to 1/37 the trends' range of  frequency remain the same.

If I represent the numbers with 6 felt double streets,
or as an alternative opt to use a pie or star groupings,
the trends resulting from these 6-number grouping are the same,
same range of length & the frequdncy of those appearing ..

.. meanwhile there's a clear advantage in the bankroll requirement,
having to use only 1 unit yo cover 6-numbers & start from there.


The only potential advantage this might have based on my currrnt insight,
is that multiple trends' tracks may be merged into one track simultaneously,
thus qualifying the numbers based on all the trend present at the same time,
though provided the betting plan comprises of SU numbers.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: TRD on Oct 31, 10:13 AM 2023
Then again, maybe those are truly ready to be free .. & need an experience yohoffer to be done off with that.

Me, I certainly don't need tk be lead on a string of pieces of a pie, until finally presented with the conditional & enslaving offer of an esoteric secret sauce, or better a secret glaze.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Oct 31, 11:51 AM 2023
QuoteBesides identifying trends, what's any other advantage of grouping the numbers like that?

I stated that my advantage is using the Global Pie method.

For years, I have been advocating this approach. I do not know any other way.


I come to realize that this generation of roulette players rely on roulette simulators, number generators, and current technology applications.

If you are asking me to show you a way using today's technology, you are out of luck.

I drive a stick shift. I don't have to worry about someone of this generation stealing my car.


I am not going to waste my time replying to your insecurities of life and lack of understanding the value of mapping the roulette wheel.

I will, however, acknowledge your passion for what you believe.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: carvigno on Oct 31, 02:06 PM 2023
Quote from: TRD on Oct 31, 10:00 AM 2023If I represent the numbers with 6 felt double streets,
or as an alternative opt to use a pie or star groupings,
the trends resulting from these 6-number grouping are the same,
same range of length & the frequdncy of those appearing ..

I must agree with your point of view. There are ways to play successfully based on felt distribution of numbers. Mr Li mentioned some of them in this same thread.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: duchobor on Nov 01, 04:47 AM 2023
Quote from: TRD on Oct 31, 10:00 AM 2023If I represent the numbers with 6 felt double streets,
or as an alternative opt to use a pie or star groupings,
the trends resulting from these 6-number grouping are the same,
same range of length & the frequdncy of those appearing ..

.. meanwhile there's a clear advantage in the bankroll requirement,
having to use only 1 unit yo cover 6-numbers & start from there.


Amen.  :thumbsup:

The only potential advantage this might have based on my currrnt insight,
is that multiple trends' tracks may be merged into one track simultaneously,
thus qualifying the numbers based on all the trend present at the same time,
though provided the betting plan comprises of SU numbers.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Nov 01, 11:14 PM 2023
CORRECTION

07 28 12 35 06 26

Should be

07 28 12 35 03 26
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Nov 02, 06:48 AM 2023
Now I know no one is paying attention to details. LOL

CORRECTION

01 = 32 25 36 05 14 07
02 = 15 17 11 24 31 28
03 = 19 34 30 16 09 12
04 = 04 06 08 33 22 35
05 = 21 27 23 01 22 03
06 = 02 13 10 20 29 26



01 = 32 25 36 05 14 07
02 = 15 17 11 24 31 28
03 = 19 34 30 16 09 12
04 = 04 06 08 33 22 35
05 = 21 27 23 01 18 03
06 = 02 13 10 20 29 26
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: carvigno on Nov 02, 04:23 PM 2023
I guess more than one is paying attention but they don't know what to do with that information. How to profit from these numbers arrengements.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: holy roller on Nov 13, 11:57 PM 2023
It sounds like you are the one who is enslaved in your own clunky and encumbered thinking.

Your opinion seems very myopic in my opinion. You make comments and challenges to Mr. Li, and yet you know nothing about him so why comment then?

Can you disprove any claims that he has made? Do you have anything better to offer other than your diatribe against Mr. Li? Your answer will probably be that you do not have to disprove what he says, which means you can't do it. Yet you comment anyway out of your own ignorance.

Everyone always gets upset that he won't reveal to you how he plays, and yet he continues to give instruction for others to examine and LEARN from, and all of this for free.

I think most roulette players ONLY want answers. They do not want to put forth any mental capacity to actually figure something out or at a minimum.... be teachable and learn something new.

I tell you what if you think what he teaches is just silliness then why not challenge him to a roulette challenge. The two of you get together and watch live spins at a casino. You both make virtual bets (not real ones) and we will see who would have walked away with the most money.

I mean that is really what you want to see isn't it? Kimo would not need to reveal how he plays. He would just give his best prediction of the numbers and you would give yours and the best person wins.

Just think you could even be the one who takes down the great Kimo Li!

Do you have the stones to do that or are you just a keyboard warrior? I'm betting the latter. Yeah definitely the latter.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Nov 15, 01:11 AM 2023
Does "taking me down" becomes the measure of one's ability to predict?

I don't think so.

Focus on learning to predict, rather than criticizing one's inability to predict.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: carvigno on Nov 15, 05:06 PM 2023
In order to be able to make the predictions Kimo Li talks about, it is necessary to create a tool to measure the fluctuations of the characteristics I want to track.

These characteristics of the numbers will occur randomly but are susceptible to give themselves a space and a time of appearance.

We are therefore talking about sequence and frequency in the appearance of these characteristics.
 
This tool is a matrix that will allow us to keep track of what is coming out along with measuring both its sequence and frequency.

Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Nov 16, 12:32 PM 2023
The secret to success in roulette is simply explained by carvigno.


The Global Pie Method

All you have to do is grab a piece of the PIE and shoot for the STARS.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: carvigno on Nov 16, 03:14 PM 2023
Quote from: Kimo Li on Nov 16, 12:32 PM 2023All you have to do is grab a piece of the PIE and shoot for the STARS.

Apply scientific phenomenon called quantum entanglement to Kimo Li's Pies and Stars and you'll have the key response to solve roulette mistery.

Besides you'll need a Matrix to put order to the apparent caos of roulette outcomes. The matrix should emulate the pigeonhole principle.
This matrix must comply with one precept,  it must be simple enough so that it can be carried out without the need for paper and pencil.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: SWEET on Nov 22, 06:56 AM 2023
Since the historical data show that most

pies and stars in six spins are mostly
4pies/stars, or

more, to hit in next six spins.

A whooping more than  75%, that create slightly edge...

Then we bet after THREE PIES AND 3STARS had hit.
Bet the other 3pies and 3star, that not hit.

3pies=half the wheel,

and

3stars=half of the 3pies, thus 9numbers plus zero bet.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: SWEET on Nov 22, 09:19 AM 2023
another bet, bet only 4pies stars.

Only bet once....

flatbet


1)after 4spins, 4different pies, had hit.
then we bet, only once, bet the FIFTH spin, PREVIOUS four pies hit....
will hit.

We lose and stop betting, when fifth pies hit. at the fifth spin.


2) When at fifth spin, only four pies hit, and we bet only once, bet that it remained 4pies at sixth spin.
We lose when 5pies hit at sixth spin.

3)When at the FIFTH spin,
We see only 3pies hit,
we bet the other 3 pies that had not hit.
Lose when at the sixth spin, only three pies hit.

mathwise, slight edge
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Blueprint on Nov 23, 01:01 PM 2023
Tadpole all the way.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Kimo Li on Nov 23, 03:34 PM 2023
GPM terminology!
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: Ancientone on Nov 23, 06:23 PM 2023
People still talk about holy grial? thats amateur...

 
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: SWEET on Nov 23, 06:41 PM 2023
I think,
no.32 is a part of a pie4.

32 could also be a part of FIVE other pies...


and another thought.

a pie is
 1st dimension...

a star is 2nd dimension...

and there a 3rd dimension...
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: carvigno on Nov 25, 07:28 AM 2023
Quote from: SWEET on Nov 23, 06:41 PM 2023I think,
no.32 is a part of a pie4.

32 could also be a part of FIVE other pies...


and another thought.

a pie is
 1st dimension...

a star is 2nd dimension...

and there a 3rd dimension...

And then there's Dark Mirror on Netflix  :xd:

It's simpler than you propose Sweet
In the end it all has to do with the sequence and frequency of certain characteristics of numbers and how we relate them to each other.

Quote from: Kimo Li on Nov 16, 12:32 PM 2023All you have to do is grab a piece of the PIE and shoot for the STARS.

There's the solution, find out how and that's it.
Title: Re: I got the Holy Grail
Post by: ash190 on Dec 12, 06:09 AM 2023
Hey there! Appreciate the insight. Hunting for that Holy Grail system sounds like a journey, but those rules make sense. Here's to finding that winning equilibrium! Good luck to you too!