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Can some one lock this topic already? People got scammed :o Big deal. It happens all the time. Get over with it. This topic is spaming main page.

Big Deal Eh!

Spamming the main Page eh?...............Well I'm sooo, sorry about that!

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I'll tell you what gentlemen, this Topic should be at the top of EVERY Topic in this forum.

It should be the Topic that's on your mind, not some other-
Oh I'm sorry, There's nothing I can Do To Help These Poor Unsuspecting Folks Who Just Happened To Get Scammed.........

I'm disgusted at the attitude of some of the fellows in here, especially given the time of the year.

And, don't please get me wrong-
Its not about the Money involved here.............

• Its about the act
• the deceit
• the lies peddled
• the obtaining of someones money thro false representation
• and that they might be amongst Us...... Right now!

So, (and I can see you all there behind your little computer screens), peering in thinking,
"What the F**k can I do about this situation?"

"Why do I have to be dragged into this mire of sh1te?"

-------------------That's what some of you are saying isn't it?---------------------

I can, with no (or next to non), psychic ability, tell what your thinking, wondering- and asking the simple question- Y?
Y is Chris getting all worked up about this subject.

Well I tell you Y.........................and its definitely not because I was scammed, because luckily I wasn't.........................but there, (as Dyksexlic! said),

QuoteThere but for the grace of 'conmen' sense go I.

B/c, it could have got me,  and it has happened- that's why. And I can do my tiny little bit to help.

Whether that's putting people in touch with others, facilitating an arrangement, letting a hand to someone who needs it, establishing the facts as laid out before me, thinking laterally as to what the next move could be.- That new phrase pops into sharp focus- WHATEVER!!

Even if its just asking some of you other members, for info that an investigator would require, things like email addresses, correspondence that you might hold in your memory  (electronic or real memory)

Basically what I am saying is this.....
If there's something, no matter how small and insignificant, you can think of, that might just help these guys (whether-or not the money ever gets returned) ... to catchup with the people involved with this scam- then please please, post up here what you have got.

Right, now that that rant is out of the way- my next post on this subject, will depersonalise this whole debate- and get down to the nitty gritty of facts, subjection, association, links, information and all the notes laid out for someone to add too and make an electronic paper trail.

Here goes;- ..................and folks............follow my lead eh!?!?!?!?

EdIt- It has been, and was in the other posts, my heart governing what I said, and how I said it...... :love:

Now I've got that out of the way, the hard, cold calculating head forused side of me takes over, and begins to work its magic.  :o
Its the reason my eldest daughter is now a detective, (youngest ever to get that promotion, given her limited years experience as a PC plod)


Topic locked till I get back from taking my step son to band practice.

Here's what I know Then..

Some of the new, and existing members of this forum got 'scammed' out of several
hundred dollars/euro's/pounds/aussi whatever sheila's.

Please, some right down here, the best description of the actual scam.

The Scam was;-_________________________________________________________________________

The names involved are;- (as mentioned in the Roulette Forum post already )
CEH
Simon scammer
ELIZABETH
Charles scammer
Simon scammer
The PPPC
PPPCWEALTH
TEAM
The ACETF
NEW ANTI-SCAM SITE (yet to be finished)
HELEN
LAURA
.
.
others- please enter the names/nicknames/aliases of people who you suspect are involved.
(if any of the names above are wrong/need edit, then please correct them)


The Bank(s) involved

HSBC (used to known as Midland Bank here in UK)
othere- please enter the bank names-

The sums involved-

$567
Ã,£330
335 Euro's
$500AUD
others- please enter the values/currency

The Place The Scam Took Place-

w3m scam site
win 3 million scam
w3m scam.com
pppcwealth.com
acetf.org
xxx thisisitmoney.com
Starfield Technologies (supplier of technology)
others- please enter the names, URL's, httl, of sites where you were scammed.

The Email addresses involved-
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.
.
others- please enter the email addresses involved/used

The addresses (postal) involved-
HSBC bank plc, 125 Church Road, HOVE, BN3 2AN, UK
.
.
.
.otheres- please enter the address involved.

Other Information-

.
.
.
.
.
other- info.

The Names(list) of ALL the people who claim/believe/can prove
That they were the subject/victim of the w3m scam.

(The scam being that a bet was purchased, believing it to be a winning bet that had not been revealed before, but for some- nothing was ever received)

I'll start the list- just add to it please.

Funboy
6th sense/commonsense169
Canuk
JA
II I II I III II (barcode)
Vytas
Big EZ ?
D1
Spinner
Rivers
.
.
.
Please add your name to this list, and contact anyone else you know, get then to join the Forum, and get them on board. (If your name is on this list and you have not been scammed/parted with monies, then please remove it.

Other Info.

Member/fellow Dyksexlic! has offered some legal help, today, 14-Dec-2010- contact him directly for more information.

Timing-

Some members metioned above, sent their monies only two (2) months ago- so very recent

Add the time when you sent your money to the receiving Bank.

And Now- THE QUESTIONS...................................... TO BE CONTINUED.

Note. to keep this list updated and viewable, posters should quote the entire content, then dive into the quoted text, add/alter/update/correct/question it, and then re-post such that any readers, will only have to go back a few replies, to check on changes.

Legal Notice- the information contained here-in, is the collated resource of the posting(s) by forum members, and in no way implies that the information is accurate/ or has been corroberated.
Members/Moderators and Admin may/will need to alter/update/delete this collection of data, for the purpose of accuracy and in keeping with forum rules

Data protection may also need to be factored into the above information.

Dated 14th December 2010

Quote from: chrisbis on Dec 14, 05:13 PM 2010
The Email addresses involved-
. ???????@????.???

I've got the following additions to a mailing list:

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Thanx buddy. x

Now then, lets make this go turbo, and possible see this explode into action.  ;)

I jest you not on what I'm about to tell U.  8)

I say that, cause I'm usually known as a bit of a joker around here- humorous stuff you know, its my fathers influence. He's very funny. Love him to bits ( & my mum too)

So- get this right, and there's no bollix in this, just going to tell it as it happened.

My painter and decorator phoned me last Friday, asking if I would like to view and bid on some new work that had come his way.

He's worked for me (or my clients) indirectly before on many projects, and he's a good friend too, we holiday and party together sometimes, so you get the drift.

The work is a small office refurbishment, not far from here, so its a local job.

After much calling and arranging (I'm really busy at the moment trying to finish 3 jobs we have on the go, before the Christmas break- I'm an interior builder by the way)
..... I eventually go to see the job, on site- last night.

Cutting Long Story Short- (Yes I'm getting to it Ophis- love you man)
the Client Of Steve (The P & D friend) begins to rattle thro what they want,
and is rabbitting on and on about the type of business they conduct within the 4 offices they currently have!

U would never guess, what they do. (U couldn't make this stuff up Flukey Luke)  :twisted:

THEY WORK FOR THE POLICE IN THE UK, SEVERAL MET FORCES (as we call them), doing SPECIALIST ELECTRONIC FORENSICS.

In other words, several rooms, will several GEEKS, all working towards find out all they can from electronic information gleamed from the web.


So- its.
Mobile Phones
Computers.
web sites.
Emails
Bank accounts
Asset Finding
Money laundering
Money trails
Bank fraud
Bank transactions
Electronic eavesdropping
Records searches
Anything information based
Knowing how to track, and more importantly- finding someone, something, some monies.


ARE you THINKING WHAT I THINKING BY ANY CHANCE???  :ooh:

Hope Funboy gets to read this.

My offer is this, ....tho I have not quite got the job yet, (but I'll make sure I do get it!)
if the scammed forum members can  get together, as much information as humanly possible, on the;-
People involved.
Real names and nicknames
The sites involved
The email addresses involved
The Bank(s) involved
The postal addresses involved

All in info that everyone has on this matter, sent into this forum, such that maybe, just maybe, I can pull a fast one here, and see if a new potential client of mine, might just be able to help, or if not- might just be able to POINT US/U/ME IN ALL THE RIGHT DIRECTIONS!!

Gd, I'm knackered now after that!!!!!!!!

Whiskey someone!?!?!?!?  :wink:

I hope someone/everyone is reading this sh1te!

(the sense of coinincidence isn't lost on you is it dear reader? ?  :o

"Big Deal Eh!
Spamming the main Page eh?...............Well I'm sooo, sorry about that!
I'll tell you what gentlemen, this Topic should be at the top of EVERY Topic in..."

You are taking it a bit too serious.
People are getting rip off every day on every step.

Going to Tesco you are ripped off by false promotions.
You are ripped off every time you are filling your car.
Every time you are paying your taxes.

You cant save the world.

And if someone have been not smart enough to believe in such claims like win3m then this person is only one to blame. No one forced anyone to give money to anyone.

Make new topic "Known SCAMS" (sticky) and make a list of scams so anyone that have at least a little brain can search google and find it.

This is nothing new. There are new scams all the time. You cant fight them all.
What is the purpose of writing all the time about the same stuff?

If you want some sort revenge for what they did then go to hackers forum/irc and convince any group to help you take down their websites, clear their bank accounts, and make of them pedophiles so police will actually do anything about it.

You think you "are the man on the mission" but in reality you cant do anything.

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In this post i have no intention to insult anyone.

Big brother is always watching, none more so than in the U.K.
In fact I am sure they could tell you when you made your last cup of tea (or glass of whisky  :D) and the rest.....
So you are right Chris, with all the info put together, it should lead to something.
I was looking at something today. Do you know that you don't even need to be a UK resident to open a UK bank account with a business account. As long as you are not an undischarged bankrupt, there are plenty of companies on the web who will set everything up for you for a fee. I think that may be the avenue that charles scammer has went down either using fake ID or using an accomplice. Let's be honest, not even an idiot would use their own bank account for something that this guy pulled. But as long as you find the accomplice, then you could track who else may have being involved with the aid of all the technology available today.

@ Ophis.

I know you didn't. (reference to insult)
Thank for the reply.
Its not revenge.
Its not a mission.

But maybe, just maybe! ?

We'll see eh.

I personally think its worth a few hours/minutes of my time, to put this all in one place.
After that, its really up to those who have been affected, to do something positive about it.

I'm only being a facilitator here, not a knight in.......... armour. (that's not me)

I can not be a negative person, but I believe you not to be one either, we just see this issue differently, and I fully respect that.

Maybe you never lost anything before- I have.

Thanks for stopping by and reading.

I just saw the Topic.
I went to the  "sent by" and it says that this post is mine!!!! :  ""   
Can some one lock this topic already? People got scammed Shocked Big deal. It happens all the time. Get over with it. This topic is spaming main page."""


This is a BIG LIE!!!!
I have never posted this post ANYWARE!!!!!

What the hell is going on here???
Can anyone answer me NOW!!! >:(

Keep your knickers on Jordan!!

I deleted the members name of who actually posted that reply to me actually, so we know it wasn't U.

If I can modify it, then I'll make clear it was not U.

Its cause I put a load of ###*** I it and the forum machine must think that that guff is U.

Sorry about the confussion bud.  :-X

Nope, can't edit it, but besides, I clicked on it too, and it said it was me that sent it, soo it must be something to do with the fact its in quotes, that makes it belong to the reader, and not the sender.

So my plan worked, and everybody sent it to themselves. Good job!!

Anyway's, how are you Jordan/VIP ? ?  :question:

edit- there was no need to go so red faced about it anyway.
if you read the previous thread/topic, you would see who actually wrote the post I quoted.

Not a big deal, I just edited it. It was looping to viewer's account. i.e. I clicked on it and it went to the profile of my account ( link:://rouletteforum.cc/profile/vls (link:://rouletteforum.cc/profile/vls) )

Now it doesn't link at all.

 EDIT.
Here's what I know Then..

Some of the new, and existing members of this forum got 'scammed' out of several
hundred dollars/euro's/pounds/aussi whatever sheila's.

Please, some right down here, the best description of the actual scam.

The Scam was;-_________________________________________________________________________

The names involved are;- (as mentioned in the Roulette Forum post already )
CEH
Charles Edward Hampshire
Simon scammer
ELIZABETH
Charles scammer
Simon scammer
The PPPC
PPPCWEALTH
TEAM
The ACETF
NEW ANTI-SCAM SITE (yet to be finished)
HELEN
LAURA
.
.
others- please enter the names/nicknames/aliases of people who you suspect are involved.
(if any of the names above are wrong/need edit, then please correct them)


The Bank(s) involved

HSBC (used to known as Midland Bank here in UK)
othere- please enter the bank names-

The sums involved-

$567
Ã,£330
335 Euro's
$500AUD
others- please enter the values/currency

The Place The Scam Took Place-

w3m scam site
win 3 million scam
w3m scam.com
pppcwealth.com
acetf.org
xxx thisisitmoney.com
Starfield Technologies (supplier of technology)
others- please enter the names, URL's, httl, of sites where you were scammed.

The Email addresses involved-
[attachimg=#]
.
.
others- please enter the email addresses involved/used

The addresses (postal) involved-
HSBC bank plc, 125 Church Road, HOVE, BN3 2AN, UK
.
.
.
.otheres- please enter the address involved.

Other Information-
link:://win3million.blogspot.com/ (link:://win3million.blogspot.com/)........... added 15th December
link:://CharlesEdwardHampshire.blogspot.com/ (link:://CharlesEdwardHampshire.blogspot.com/)........... added 15th December

.and Zing Lee? ........... added 15th December
.
.
.
.
other- info.

The Names(list) of ALL the people who claim/believe/can prove
That they were the subject/victim of the w3m scam.

(The scam being that a bet was purchased, believing it to be a winning bet that had not been revealed before, but for some- nothing was ever received)

I'll start the list- just add to it please.

Funboy
6th sense/commonsense169
Canuk
JA
II I II I III II (barcode)
Vytas
Big EZ ?
D1
Spinner
Rivers
.
.
.
Please add your name to this list, and contact anyone else you know, get then to join the Forum, and get them on board. (If your name is on this list and you have not been scammed/parted with monies, then please remove it.

Other Info.

Member/fellow Dyksexlic! has offered some legal help, today, 14-Dec-2010- contact him directly for more information.

Timing-

Some members metioned above, sent their monies only two (2) months ago- so very recent

Add the time when you sent your money to the receiving Bank.

And Now- THE QUESTIONS...................................... TO BE CONTINUED.

Note. to keep this list updated and viewable, posters should quote the entire content, then dive into the quoted text, add/alter/update/correct/question it, and then re-post such that any readers, will only have to go back a few replies, to check on changes.

Legal Notice- the information contained here-in, is the collated resource of the posting(s) by forum members, and in no way implies that the information is accurate/ or has been corroberated.
Members/Moderators and Admin may/will need to alter/update/delete this collection of data, for the purpose of accuracy and in keeping with forum rules

Data protection may also need to be factored into the above information.

Dated 14th December 2010- (updated 15th December)

Woow, i didnt know so much people got scammed.....why didnt they come forward b4?

Anyways, scammers will get what they deserve in the end.....

I believe in karma.....and trust me, karma is real....and it is also a bitch ....

They may enjoy this life, but the next life they will pay for it.......in my religion if u did bad things b4 u usually pay for it if not this life the next life.....

So maybe the next life they will have a terrible life....family friends will die, mum will be on drugs and postitution.......they could have no legs, they could die a horrible death or be sick and ill ...or have really bad luck....or live with a tiny penis.......lol....maybe im being too harsh but thats the truth.......

You will get what u deserve......same for good things happen to good people...
I dont know how they sleep at night......all i know they will end up in helll