Hello Chris, as to your question about me being new on the forum. Yes I am new to the forum but I am not new to roulette. I have been playing for a long time.
What I was saying is that so many people just spin their wheels trying to figure out how to play roulette and win a little bit of money while they are at it. They donÃ,´t take the time to figure it out for them selves. As for me to tell you the truth I played day and night in casinos and online for a year and a half before it occured to me what was the right way to bet successfully. I noticed that it was impossible to try and guess exactly on which number the ball would land when the wheel stoped. There are a lot of people who will try and sell you devices to help you figure out where the ball will stop or others who will sell you a robot that will calculate all of the previous spins to help you figure out what the ball should do next. None of them really work. Let me give you an idea of how I play; I only play on a European table because the odds are more in my favor. No matter on which number the ball stops I win because I have every number covered. I average $180 an hour. I practiced my way of betting and then put it on a robot which I had an engineer make for me. Playing online I could place a bet more or less once a minute, using the robot it places about 3 bets per secound. ItÃ,´s much faster and much more exact. I leave the robot running until the next day when I stop it to collect my money. I average daily over $4,000.
I use a system that is basically a Martingale system. This is the sequence;
1
1
2
3
4
6
9
14
21
31
47
70
105
158
237
355
533
799
1,199
1,798
2,697
4,046
6,069
9,103
13,655
20,482
30,723
46,085
69,127
103,691
It has been nice writing to you and I hope that you do very well. If you have a question that I can answer then please let me know.
James
Hey jimmy boy. The twanger would like to know all about it. looks like youve got yourself a cool and simple way. just what we've all been looking for.
It needs a big bank and little white balls to go with it so the Twangers your man.
Tell us all my friend.
Quote from: jamesshoffner22162 on Dec 26, 10:00 PM 2010
Hello Chris, as to your question about me being new on the forum. Yes I am new to the forum but I am not new to roulette. I have been playing for a long time.
What ................................................................I average daily over $4,000.
I use a system that is basically a Martingale system. This is the sequence;
1
1
............
103,691
It has been nice writing to you and I hope that you do very well. If you have a question that I can answer then please let me know.
James
Hello James.
I do very well indeed, thank you for asking.
I do have question for U if I may:-
Will U be able to share Your method of play with the forum here, or are U able to help members on an individual basis through the Private Messaging service?
I am now going to do what I should not do- but ask a series
of supplementary questions, though U graciously only mentioned asking one question- but hey here goes:-
- How did U come to establish the basis of Ur now winning bet?
- How did U get the Robot "engineered" for U?
- How much did the engineering side of the equation cost U to achieve U objective?
- With every number covered, how do U take care of European wheel single Zero?
- The $/per hour is very impressive indeed- what do U spend/invest the money on/in?
- Which such an income coming in, are U here to share the information? (have U shared the information before with others?)
- What is Ur expectation from Roulette Forum.cc?
Thank you for the opportunity to question U.
If any of the answers are not for public consumption, then I respect that,
and U could/can PM me with any questions/answers of your own.
I bid U good travelling through this 'ere wonderland of knowledge, respect and above all
the absolute desire to win at all things - ROULETTE.
Cheers.
Chris
Hello Chris, itÃ,´s nice writing to you again. YouÃ,´ve asked me a few questions. IÃ,´ll try and answer them here.
1. The system (letÃ,´s call it the Shoffner System for lack of a name) was established over a period of a year and a half through hundreds of hours of trial and error.
2. I found an engineer who had the education and the ability to understand just exactly what I wanted to do. I paid him $1,200 to make the robot for me.
3. On a Martingale system the bet is advanced every time you lose until you win and then it goes back to the beginning to start the process all over again. In the event that the ball lands on Zero you take it as a lose and just advance to the next bet. This system of betting is set up to allow you to play up to 30 times before you hit the table limit. So hitting a Zero never really affects me much because I can place up to 30 bets.
4. I have the robot set up so that I have access to it via the internet. That means that I can spend my time traveling which I enjoy doing. And all I do when I get up in the morning is turn on my laptop, access my robot via the internet, withdraw my winnings and let it play for another 24 hours. It really is a simple process.
5. To tell you the truth I have never shared my system with anyone before. Probably because I believe that it could cause me problems if too many people began playing as I do. The casinos donÃ,´t like to lose and they could make it difficult for players such as myself if they know that they are losing so much money. DonÃ,´t you agree?
6. I am not really expecting anything in particular from Roulette Forum cc. I am here more to share then to look for information.
If you donÃ,´t mind I would like to share some information on 2 other points of importance for those who seek to become successful roulette players. First of all you must look for a table which has ideal betting limits. Knowing the limits of the table where you are going to be playing is a must. For example, some tables allow you a minimum bet of . 50 cents and a maximum bet of $50 dollars. You can not play on such a table because the minimum is too high and the maximum is too low. Some tables will allow you to bet a maximum of $250 as a total table bet. These types of tables also are no good to play on. I usually look for a table that has a minimum bet of . 01 cent and a maximum bet of $1,000. Placing a bet of . 01 cent does not sound like much but remember that I am using a robot which places 3 bets per second which has a return of roughly . 05 cents per second. That gives me $3. 00 a minute, $180 an hour and $4,300 a day. So always look for a table which gives you enough space between the minimum bet and the table limit.
Secondly you must consider the casino at which you are going to be playing. Take the time to find out as much as you can about the casino. If other players are complaining about being cheated or treated poorly or about long periods before they are being paid their winnings then it is probably not a good idea to be playing there. One such casino which has a . 01 cent minimum and a $1,000 maximum is Casino. com.
It has been nice writting to you. Let me know if I can be of further help.
James
This should be good for business....lol
:-X
Hello,
Your progression looks like it is designed for a 2-1 chance.
My opinion is that you hunt for a specific dosen, possibilities are:
-always betting last dosen/column for a repeater(eliminating sleeping dosens or cols)
OR
-always betting second to last dosen/column(also eliminating sleeping dosens or cols)
C'mon guys, can't you see he is playing with you: imagine betting $103691 just to win a few bucks.
And if I'm not mistaken, it's a sequence for dozens: the probability of 31 "misses" is:
once every 670,000 spins and when you loose, you will loose bigtime: $311071
to be exact. Some of you might say, well, I take that risk. Well then consider the bankroll that you need.
Next thing this guy will do is tell you which casino to select!! They only need 1 punk to make their day!
Take care of yourself and take care of your money!
greetings, reddwarf
Quote from: reddwarf on Dec 28, 02:34 AM 2010
C'mon guys, can't you see he is playing with you: imagine betting $103691 just to win a few bucks.
And if I'm not mistaken, it's a sequence for dozens: the probability of 31 "misses" is:
once every 670,000 spins and when you loose, you will loose bigtime: $311071
to be exact. Some of you might say, well, I take that risk. Well then consider the bankroll that you need.
Next thing this guy will do is tell you which casino to select!! They only need 1 punk to make their day!
Take care of yourself and take care of your money!
greetings, reddwarf
He already did let slip which casino has the limits he prescribes- Casino.com
One of the most common casino chosen by the "artists" on the internet like Mark , Dennis and alike.
An RNG casino (for the newbies who don't know).
I'm begining to see noses growing out-stretched for some reason- don't know why.
But, and I'll repeat But!
It could just be, that James of Shoffner, is the same guy who bought several licenses
from MMM to use the DCS system he has. (DOZEN-COLUMN-SYSTEM)
Remember months ago, I mention ed to U guys, that someone
had bought, one licence to
kill, I meant cream dollars form casino,
then purchased another two licences, then came back for another 4 bits of release code.
I wonder if this is Jimmy James here.
at least he answered my questions (well some).
Biggest one still un-answered is why is he here.
And if he's worried about lots of players drawing big winnings every day of the year-
how come the casino has not stopped him from doing so?
@James.
It would be nice, and good, if U could share some of Ur secret, cause even if U did
the 100 or so active members in here, would still have to spend big bucks getting a robot built, and even then, some would not do that.
I would not worry too much about the casino's, since they are making millions every day
from the newbie players that are tempted in by systems like this (link:://themoneypro.webs.com/welcome.htm) one.
Legal notice.
The click through link is for information purposes only, and no link/affiliation is sort.
I have no connection to the site mentioned, its used for illustration needs only.
Thank you for reading, and have a great day. :love:
A GENTLE NUDGE @ jamesshoffner22162
So, basically we have learned:
* you play progressions
* with your own bot that
* makes lots of money automatically
If that's all we're ever going to learn from you then why bother posting in the first place?
On this forum the Moderators and Admin do NOT like hints and breadcrumbs that excite the readers... and then fade away to nothing.
On the other hand, if the intention is to share the bot and/or the method with members then pray continue.
But please, if that is your intention, then no more suspense and delay, if you please.
Thank you.
Hey Chris, you and your friends are pretty brutal. Try and not be so suspicious of someone wanting to offer a little advice. You were the one asking me about the way in which I play and I gladly was explaining it to you. I have no desire to sell you anything or to lead you in the direction of any one particular casino. There are several which I use. I happened to mention one (Casino. com) because of its table limits but it is in no wise the only one. You mentioned the need of investing a lot of money to play the way I do. Do you really believe that $3,110. 71 is too much to invest into something that works so well? I have a question for you, are you a serious player or just a weekend warrior? A person truly looking for answers will try many things and take addvice from many people in search of what is really important to them. If I take the time to share something with you you should at least test what I am saying before you give your opinion.
Apart from all of that let me share another part of how I play with you. A lot of people play one Dozen or maybe two Dozen at a time. I play all three Dozen at the same time. There are those who would think that this would not work but I assure you that it does. When you play one dozen using a Martingale system you keep betting until your Dozen is hit and then you start from the beginning again with the first bet. Now apply that strategy to all three of the Dozens. For example,
1st Doz 2ND Doz 3rd Doz Number Hit
1. 1 1 1 36
2. 1 1 1 28
3. 2 2 1 10
4. 1 3 1 4
5. 1 4 2 12
6. 1 6 3 25
7. 1 9 1 15
8. 2 1 1 28
9. 3 1 1 16
10. 4 1 1 1
11. 1 1 2 14
12. 1 1 3 22
13. 2 1 4 30
14. 3 1 1 11
15. 1 2 1 11
16. 1 3 2 23
17. 1 1 3 24
18. 2 1 4 31
19. 3 1 1 13
20. 4 1 1 18
6 1 2
Please let me know if there is an area where I have not made myself clear.
Best regards,
James
Reddwarf,
1. Actually the bet would be $1,036. 91 not 103691 as you stated.
2. If you lost you would lose $3,110. 71 which is your initial investment not $311071 as you
believe.
Sekuritati,
The idea is not to hunt for anything in particular. The game starts out from the very first spin betting one unit on each of the three Dozens and keeps on going until the next day when I stop it.
My addvice as a fellow player is for you to try this system out for yourself. I believe that you will appreciate what you see.
Best wishes my friend,
James
James,
can u give us an affiliate link please to your casino where u play, we all want to make 4000 daily with Martingale. Is betting red after black came good enough? Or better betting dozens?
iggiv,
1. The reason that I do so well is because I have a robot betting for me. The reason for that is because I do not want to sit in front of a computer screen all day playing roulette. Secondly because the robot bets around 180 times a minute which is much, much faster than I could ever hope to bet on my own. The more bets I make, the more I win. ItÃ,´s only logical donÃ,´t you think?
2. Playing dozens are better for me because they pay 2 to 1. Red/Black pay 1 to 1. With Red/Black using a martingale system you will hit the table limit much quicker than when you bet on Dozens.
In this game the desire is to win as much as you can and as often as you can. You have to try out a lot of different ways of playing before you find which one works the best for you.
Thanks for your question. Take care,
James
Great stuff, James. :thumbsup:
Thank you very much for posting your method. That will stimulate great interest I'm sure.
Of course, we all have our own Comfort Zones.
For some the thought of potentially risking $3k is far too rich for their blood. For others it's no problem.
Either way, they are 'serious players' within their own comfort zone.
The measure of a person is not the amount of money they are prepared to lose...
If you're able to do a video we'd love to see the bot working, but if that's a Big Ask then we understand.
Thanks again for your contributions to the forum.
Dear James,
I do not understand the reason for writing a topic like this. Ok, you play with an automated bot which uses a dangerous progression upto 103,691 units, plays all dozens and earns $4000 a day which you got made by an engineer for $1200. My first question: Which casino allows you to place bet ranging from $1 to $103,691 or even if these are cents, so much bigger bet spread? Secondly, it is apparent that you must be playing on RNG, haven't they questioned or objected to such a robotic progression and such a fast bet placement, which is proof of bot itself. 3rdly, please don't mind but can you post a screenshot of your withdrawals, so that your story can easily be digested and not taken as a fairytale.
Brother, what you stating as a technique is being sold and even freely distributed with dozens name as a promising system by casino managements and their affiliates. Remember, be it RNG or real wheel, there is no bar on how many times a particular dozen can remain sleeper. This type of betting is too much dangerous and not even possible for any of our forum members.
Hi James.
Its Wednesday.
Just played a little.
Just won a little.
Serious player.
That you for Ur honest reply. in Reply #9
I will ask forgiveness on the brutal way I have treated U.
It's the nature of the breast, when someone comes forward with such fantastic results,
and without any form of proof of method shown.
I hope U can bear that in mind.
Its nice to see that now Ur "showing" us all, how Ur doing it.
But I guess U will realise that it will not stop the questions coming, and they may get brutal again from others.
I'll desist from the brutality from now on and keep the focus solely on the Roulette.
Anything and everything U say of text in this forum, will be checked, checked and checked again, its unlike any other forum U may have visited before- its the best.
I am a member of several other forums, like a lot of other fellows here.
If U need any help, advice or even a "cute" drawing doing (as Victor-admin- calls them)
please just ask.
As Esoito says, we are all here for the serious business of Roulette.
Some for serious fun and entertainment through the game.
Some for edutainment as Dyksexlic! calls it.
And the rest, (including me), are here to make money from the Game.
I prefer to call it work- I go to work, when I play my Roulette.
I want it to supplement my income, and then eventually, like Yourself, I want it to replace my
income, so I can go and do all the things I have not been able to do, like Teach, Invent, Design, Study and Travel.
Cheers James. I like Ur spirit of "STRAIGHT BACK AT YA" as my son calls it!
On with the Game.
Now lets have a look at that Dozens postings of Ur's, I feel a drawing coming on! :thumbsup: ;)
I have just re-read this whole Topic.
And if ever James comes back to view his threads, I just wanted to say/reply to something He mentioned:-
Quote
A person truly looking for answers will try many things and take addvice from many people in search of what is really important to them. If I take the time to share something with you you should at least test what I am saying before you give your opinion.
......................................................I AM. Rigorously............ right now.
But thank U for an insight into the idea, the seed U dropped.
Brilliant.
There's more to come on this I'm sure.
Come back soon James, and post.
Chris
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Quote from: jamesshoffner22162 on Dec 29, 12:29 AM 2010
Reddwarf,
1. Actually the bet would be $1,036. 91 not 103691 as you stated.
2. If you lost you would lose $3,110. 71 which is your initial investment not $311071 as you
believe.
Why $1,036. 91 and why $3,110. 71? ???
Oh I see, we are talking about pence/cents! But does it make 180€/h and 4000€/day? This bot must be fast bot :).
Quote from: marivo on Jan 07, 07:40 AM 2011
Oh I see, we are talking about pence/cents! But does it make 180€/h and 4000€/day? This bot must be fast :).
It must be.
On 0.01/chip value fastest we have is $15.18/hour
I think its playing 0.10 chips/bet unit value.
Mainly due to the casino wheel, even with audio switched off, announces the winning spin in the Marque wheel window next to it.
So that has a time element to it.
Its not the bets laid down- its the time lag of obtaining a result/spin.
QuoteIts not the bets laid down- its the time lag of obtaining a result/spin
Which during real money play can take up to a second, sometimes longer!!
Guys, the idea does not look so bad.. i have a question, which casinos has those limits? casino.com does not has doe limits for any roulette game, example their lowest limit for roulette is european roulette and its 0.50 euros
if i am mistaken please correct me... anyways.. where do we find tables with such limits?
thanks
not bad at all. Here is one good place to do it with very good results almost guaranteed
;D
link:://rouletteforum.cc/testing-zone/i-have-an-announcement-to-make-i%27m-pregnant/msg30868/#msg30868 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/testing-zone/i-have-an-announcement-to-make-i%27m-pregnant/msg30868/#msg30868)
Quote from: iggiv on Jan 09, 01:39 PM 2011
not bad at all. Here is one good place to do it with very good results almost guaranteed
;D
link:://rouletteforum.cc/testing-zone/i-have-an-announcement-to-make-i%27m-pregnant/msg30868/#msg30868 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/testing-zone/i-have-an-announcement-to-make-i%27m-pregnant/msg30868/#msg30868)
A sweeter recommend I have not seen, thanx for the direction of traffic.
Please come and see us test this Hypotheses to death/destruction- which ever comes first.
And please, PLEASE, PLEASE, when U come over to our place,
will U wipe Ur feet and take Ur shoes off before posting,
it keeps the dust down!! xx
Quote from: chrisbis on Jan 09, 03:57 PM 2011
A sweeter recommend I have not seen, thanks for the direction of traffic.
Please come and see us test this Hypotheses to death/destruction- which ever comes first.
And please, PLEASE, PLEASE, when you come over to our place,
will you wipe your feet and take your shoes off before posting,
it keeps the dust down!! xx
"when you come to our place.
Bud, it is my place not less than yours. Did you contribute to this forum financially? I did.
Actually i was the FIRST to register on this forum, after Vic of course. And i was the first one to POST on this forum too. And the first one to TEST it before it came out to the open.
If you want me to stay out of your threads -- no problem. But don't tell me how I should come to "your" place. This is MY place too, please don't forget it.
i already kinda regret that I was trying to help u. NO need to get advice from people I try to help how I should come to "their" place and what I should get off and what I should not.
amen