Lets test the '
Promise' out then eh.
1st test- Fun monkey account, just open 5 minutes ago.
1st screen shot.
Start Balance was $2000
All bets placed as according to the rules set out in James results post.
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Everyone can clearly see the following:-
- Value of play per spin is $0.01 (or multiples of it)
- There are only 8 spin results shown on the Marque
- There were bets on every spin (take my word on it)
- I'm ahead already after the 8 spins +16 units (plus the stake on the felt(0.04)= +20)
- European wheel-single zero
Maybe this system of James, messes with the RNG's internal IT '
mind'?
Thought anyone pls?..............
I must give some future consideration to my mate Zero hob goblin at some point. :twisted:
I just know James will say "just take it as a loss", and continue, just know it! :ooh:
2Nd screen shot.
Number of spins since the start=18
Start balance = $2000.00
Current balance = $2001.60
Current bet started out as 1 chip-1St Doz, 1 chip-2Nd Doz, 2 chips-3Rd Doz
Martingale Progression on Dozen- 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256
Highest progression level=8 (128) (really equates to level 7 since start was 2 chips)
Highest progression value on 3Rd dozen= $1.28 ($1.30 total stake bet with other Doz's)
Highest payout win= $3.84
Still ahead
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Plus 160 units in 18 spins = 8,88 units per spin (quite a rate) ;)
No Zero hero Green Goblin show yet.
Progression was getting a little concerning, but at this level (0.02/start bet) reasonably safe.
3Rd screen shot
Number of spins since start = 39
Start balance = $2000.00
Current balance = $2002.04
Profit after 39 spins= 204 units = 5.23 units per spin
No real scary progression this time since spin 18
I keep moving the play (dozen with the 2 chips on for the profit motive) long the different dozens.
Here's the 3Rd screen shot after 39 spins.
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And for the sceptics- here's the History of the 39 spins.
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I have obviously accelerated this a little (well prob a lot!)
by using a straight Marty progression verses James Marty variant
which was:-
1
1
2
3
4
6
9
14
21
31
47
70
105
158
237
355
533
799
1,199
1,798
2,697
4,046
6,069
9,103
13,655
20,482
30,723
46,085
69,127
103,691
We can now safely assume these are unit values, where 1 could equal $0.01, and therefore
103,691 would equal $1, 036.91 which is not so scary now is it!!
The EC payout from the Dozens (and Columns alike) is 2:1 plus stake returned, so the Marty progression (straight) is not really necessary for this system.
The real uncertain part for me, is why bet on every dozen?
@Albalaha
I can sense Ur un-ease with this play, esp after what happened to U on Ur recent casino trip,
but if the dozen in question is sleeping- just move the bet sequence around the table, even
when in the middle of a building progression.
The choice is in Ur hands. (well under the mouse click!).
Hi Chris
Glad to see someone else testing it, I have it in my bot already using his progression as listed in his thread, you stated
"Highest progression level=8 (128) (really equates to level 7 since start was 2 chips)"
Well, sorry to burst the bubble but I have already had 25 sleeps on dozen A (includes 2 zeros) that would have eaten more than your profit! I am getting up to level 10 very very often
Hand testing will give you good profit but after a good few hand sessions a bad one will arrive, keep going see how far you get mate
Thanx for reply, but like I said earlier,
if U think a Dozen is sleeping, say after 8 levels on the progression, Y not move the play along and place the progression money (recovery) on a different Dozen?
Can I have a copy of Ur bot please?
Or am I being cheeky!?!?!?!
The way I understand it is that if a dozen sleeps for 30 spins then we lose the whole progression of 30 steps, am I right?
Even with 0.01$ the bankroll needed is like 2000$ so this isn't something for me.
Cheers
Chrisbis,
Do not chase sleeping dosens!!! This is RNG!!
If you are going to play this, at least bet the last spun dozen for a repetition, with such a progression this is bulletproof. Just ask yourself when have you seen 30 spins with chopping dosens - NEVER!
by the way what happened with the mail i sent you, tell me what you think
Quote from: Fripper on Dec 29, 02:14 PM 2010
The way I understand it is that if a dozen sleeps for 30 spins then we lose the whole progression of 30 steps, am I right?
Even with 0.01$ the bankroll needed is like 2000$ so this isn't something for me.
Cheers
If Ur
daft enough (and Im not being personal here!), but if one is concentrating on just the one Dozen then Yes, But I for one, would never let that sequence occur- I'd move the bugger around the table to another Dozen that's laying Gold Eggs.
Fripper, this may be where the bot for $1200 comes in, maybe its spots the lossing streak,
and moves the Dozen bet around. Maybe its a form of IT !!
In fact now that I think about it, why don't we move the bet around the table of Dozens, at every bet, like this;-
1,1,1 1st bet? ( Y I don't know- but we'll stick with it!)
1,2,1 If wins- then-
2,1,1 If wins- then-
1,1,2
Now if we have a loss running streak, then:-
1,1,1
1,2,1 If loss- then-
4,1,1 that's on a Marty- we can talk progression later, once the betting sequence idea is ok.
1,1,8 If still losing, then-
1,16,1
1,1,32
64,1,1
1,1,128
and so on, and so on.
Do U get it?
@ sekuritati
I will do. ;)
And yes Ur right.
Read my last post and critique it for me and the benefit of the east of the forum.
:thumbsup:
Quotewhy not move the play along and place the progression money (recovery) on a different Dozen?
Which one would you pick?
QuoteCan I have a copy of your bot please?
ROFLMAO
Ps, pointless really as it isnt a working system yet.
Quote from: superman on Dec 29, 03:41 PM 2010
Which one would you pick?
The one that has hit less than the biggest hitter. ???
IE.
In that scenario,
we have one sleeping
we have hit most
we have one hit second most (or second least- which ever way U want to put it)
IMHO i think, the movement of the "big money" (so2speak) would wake the RNG up instantly.
......
and if playing Airball/slingshot, will negate the problem encountered by sekuritati & Albalaha in recent times.
I've never played on the dozens before, so this is new territory to me.
Could be a new learning Zone for all who want to study DOZENS.
Quote
ROFLMAO
Ps, pointless really as it isnt a working system yet.
Just a peek then? :smile:
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Why would someone who's chasing after a particular double
which as we all know, pays 2:1 on a spin/hit,
still put 1 chip on each of the other DOZENS?
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In the early part of the system bet, the value of the coverage of the other Dozens
is realised when the chosen "Big Money" target has missed.
Such as this bet:-
1,1,2 _____________ (1 chip on 1st DOZ, 1 chip on 2ND DOZ, 2 chips on 3rd DOZ)
("Big Money" target is the one DOZEN we are trying to hit)
Total outlay = 4 chips/units
If the target(3rd DOZ) is missed, then either of the other two DOZENS, mop up the
bad egg, clean up the table, and at least return to the BR,
2 chips/units + the stake 1 chip/unit = 3 chips/units in total return to BR,
and hence for a four chip/unit outlay, the BR has only dropped 1 chip/unit on a loss position.
Authors notes- (this may have something to do with protection of BR, and stopping the
slide of BR when using a Robot to play, that is not being supervised!)
This by comparison, to a usual bet on dozens, is only marginality different.
A single chip placed on 1 of the DOZENS would loose just that- 1 chip/unit.
ROI in a win situation, would have returned total of 3 chips/units.
A double chip (2 chips/units) placed on one of the DOZENS, would loose 2 chips/units,
but the ROI, would have been greater, at 6 chips/units in total returned to the BR.
In our friends 3 DOZENS system, a win on the bet placement of -
1,1,2_____would yield a ROI of 4 chips/units in total due to the "wastage" on the other doz's
I'm struggling to justify the significance of the "Balancing" bets on the other 2 Doz's, unless
it is something to do with either robots, RNG's or BOTH
HELP!!
Anyone else have a comment whist I try a think some more, I only just got back into this again ?
do not waste ur time!
Analysis of the 3 Dozens bet sequence/progression as laid out by jamesshoffner22162
[table=,]
Session Start,Level,1st dozen,2nd dozen,3rd dozen,Total $ Out,Total $ In,#Spun,$ BR,
Opening,-,0,0,0,0,Opening Balance,0,1000
1st bet,1,1,1,1,3,3,#36,1000
2nd bet,1,1,1,1,3,3,#28,1000
3rd bet,2,2,2,1,5,6,#10,1001
4th bet,3,1,3,1,5,3,#4,999
5th bet,4,1,4,2,7,3,#12,995
6th bet,6,1,6,3,10,9,#25,994
7th bet,9,1,9,1,11,27,#15,1010
8th bet,2,2,1,1,4,3,#28,1009
9th bet,3,3,1,1,5,9,#16,1007
10th bet,4,4,1,1,6,12,#1,1013
11th bet,2,1,1,2,4,3,#14,1012
12th bet,3,1,1,3,5,3,#22,1010
13th bet,4,2,1,4,7,12,#30,1015
14th bet,3,3,1,1,5,9,#11,1017
15th bet,2,1,2,1,4,3,#11,1016
16th bet,3,1,3,2,6,9,#23,1019
17th bet,3,1,1,3,5,3,#24,1017
18th bet,4,2,1,4,7,12,#31,1022
19th bet,3,3,1,1,5,3,#13,1020
20th bet,4,4,1,1,6,3,#18,1017
21st bet,6,6,1,2,9,
[/table]
I get it now James, the penny has dropped.
Bravo James- very clever indeed. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :xd:
Boys and Girls!!
Have a good look at this one please.
Looks very strong.
Not HG yet, More like Holly Gale, but may change at any moment after 10 members have tested it and posted up their results.
@ Esoito.
Can U or someone else, code this up for rapid testing with lots of spins for the Dozens? ?
The secret is that the progression suggested by James, is on EACH, of the dozens, and not just one of them.
Must watch out for the sleeper dozen, I agree, but worth a serious look at chaps/esses!
@ Ophis
How much to code for one of these bots then Ophis?
@ ThomasGrant.
Can U code RSS /RSS PRO for this sequence of play progression on ALL the dozens? ?
@Illuzionn
what U think mate? ?
@ Mikeo
Code-able or what?
@ any other coder.
Please let me know what every one thinks.
I think my table, above, shows the example better, for the progression, but I will look to expand it, throw in some random numbers, a few of my special friends (Zero's) and some sleeper Dozens to see what happens.
I'm cautiously optimistic. :smile:
Cheers all.
:-X
Quote from: iggiv on Dec 29, 09:39 PM 2010
:-X
Have U had a look at the table above? ? ?
;)
Go ahead, bud. Test them. I don't mind.
just don't hurry to play with real money (more than 1 c units).
Beats me what Victor would say about that, he is an expert in this stuff. He's created famous LW strategy, which has been used by quite a few people.
Dear Chris,
You have every right to test any method but this isn't a method/strategy but merely a progression plan much like martingale. I think it is insane to risk 400,000+ units for earning 1-5 units. You are bound to lose sooner or later, more than you would earn in months this way. Good time pass with fun money though.
Warning: Don't try this at home.
Quote from: albalaha on Dec 29, 11:25 PM 2010
Dear Chris,
You have every right to test any method but this isn't a method/strategy but merely a progression plan much like martingale. I think it is insane to risk 400,000+ units for earning 1-5 units. You are bound to lose sooner or later, more than you would earn in months this way. Good time pass with fun money though.
Warning: Don't try this at home.
+1
i want to add something. Imagine you go ahead online with progression betting 1000 bucks to get 10. then u have suddenly a power blackout. Or your internet is down. Or casino decided to play a little trick on you and kick u out "because of temporary difficulties".
Very true Iggiv,
This hazard of online gaming has always to be kept in mind. Link failure. Server down. Internet trouble. Problem with pc/laptop. All killers.
well, not for smart James. his robot makes 4 thousand daily. he has a generator at home for sure, and never failing network. And look how casino loves it. Gives away 4 thousand daily with no eye blink. Probably also gives him some bonuses and promotions as for VIP and royal player
40 actual spins from Fairway Casino- live wheel. Game No. #R5098942
Start balance Ã,£500.
[table=,]
Session Starting,Level,1st Dz,2nd Dz,3rd Dz,Total $Out,Total $In,#Spun,$ BR,
Opening,-,0,0,0,0,Opening Balance,0,500
1st bet,1,1,1*,1,3,3,#20,500
2nd bet,1,1,1*,1,3,3,#17,500 after initial start 1-1-2-3-4-6-9 progression
3rd bet,2,2,2*,1,5,6,#19,501 adopt:- 1-2-3-4-6-9 progression
4th bet,3,3*,1,2,6,9,#1,504
5th bet,3,1,2,3*,6,9,#27,507
6th bet,3,2*,3,1,6,6,#2,507
7th bet,4,1,4,2*,7,6,#25,506
8th bet,6,2,6,1*,9,3,#36,500
9th bet,9,3,9,2*,14,6,#31,492
10th bet,14,4*,14,1,19,12,#1,485
11th bet,21,1,21,2*,24,6,#32,467
12th bet,31,2,31,1*,34,3,#30,436
13th bet,47,3,47,1*,51,3,#27,388
14th bet,70*,4,70,1,75,210,#13,523
15th bet,6,6,1*,2,9,3,#24,517
16th bet,9,9,1*,3,13,3,#20,507
17th bet,14,14*,1,4,19,42,#2,530
18th bet,6,1*,2,6,9,3,#4,524
19th bet,9,1,3*,9,13,9,#19,520
20th bet,14,2*,1,14,17,6,#5,509
21st bet,21,1,2,21*,24,63,#32,548
22nd bet,3,2,3,1*,6,3,#25,545
23rd bet,4,3,4,1*,8,3,#29,540
24th bet,6,4*,6,1,11,12,#11,541
25th bet,9,1,9*,2,12,27,#19,556
26th bet,3,2*,1,3,6,6,#5,556
27th bet,4,1,2,4*,7,12,#33,561
28th bet,3,2,3*,1,6,9,#16,564
29th bet,3,3*,1,2,6,9,#1,567
30th bet,3,1,2*,3,6,6,#24,567
31st bet,4,2*,3,4,9,12,#12,570
32nd bet,6,1,4,6*,11,18,#33,579
33rd bet,6,2*,6,1,9,6,#2,574
34th bet,9,1,9*,2,12,27,#17,589
35th bet,3,2,1*,3,6,6,#22,589
36th bet,4,1,2,4*,7,12,#36,594
37th bet,3,2,3,1*,6,3,#28,591
38th bet,4,3,4,1*,8,3,#33,586
39th bet,6,4,6*,1,11,18,#14,595
40th bet,6,6,1*,2,9,3,#20,589...Finish position 40 spins
[/table]
* Denotes Dozen that hit/spun.
Notes.
Finish position after - 40 spins- Ã,£589 (+103 units)
I have changed the progression slighty here during the game(from1,1,2,3,4,6,9,)to-
1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,31,47,70,105,158,237,355,533,799,1199,1798,2697,
4046,6069,9103,13655,20482,30723,46085,699127,103691
No Zero's ?
Looking Good !
looks promising :)
what is the actual longest a dozen has slept on real wheel. i was playing fun money on jackpot challenge wheel and the 1 st dozen hit 11 times in a row.
test at least total 1000 spins on 10 different wheels, then we gonna talk.
remember one wheel can have very long lucky strikes
My fingers too sore to do THAT many numbers!! Bloody Hell!! 8)
And yes Paul- Noo Scratching!! (Zero's)
(off take from Jif adverts- Scotish voice- remember?)
Actually, the other players on the Casino chat,
were all screaming for a Zero-
I must have some converts, around the globe!!
Im wondering if this same idea, will work for Columns aswell?
Anyone see a reason Y the3 dozens idea of jamesshoffner22162, would not translate directly into
Playing the same system, and progression, (with a variant maybe) on Columns? ? :question:
I have seen a column(Col3 btw) miss 24 times once :o
Where?
What type of casino/wheel?
It was a live wheel on DublinBet.... but I have never seen a dozen miss that many times..
Dear Chris,
I have taken a few moments to look at this bet system.
It looks to me like just a martingale on the 2:1 bets.
You are betting on all three dozens at the same time.
I don't see any reason why you should bet on all three, it just puts more money on the table at one time.
You could just as easily bet on all three dozens and all three columns at the same time.
Since all it is is a very long marty, it could be used on every bet on the table.
Twisteruk uses such a thing on his "Closest to a Holy Grail" system where he bets an 11 step marty on all three even chances at the same time. Were he to extend his number of bets on the e.c.s to a comparable ratio that you are using on the 2:1, I don't see why his system wouldn't be just a profitable.
As a matter of fact, you could do this same strategy on the Lines, corners, streets, splits and yes even straight up numbers. Granted table maximums will come into play. They always do with marty's.
I don't think betting all three at once adds any profitability to the system other than being able to put more at risk to win at 3 times the rate. It's the same thing as 3 players playing a different dozen with a marty on the same table.
Am I out in left field, or do you just like this because you can probably play your whole lifetime and never lose 30 times in a row. On the other hand, it is possible. Is it worth the risk?
Starting with your penny, and 3 banks of 1036.91 you could play all three dozens and all you need to put at risk is 3,110.73. There's a good chance that you will never lose 30 in a row on any of the dozens.
It is a gamble, but that's what we're doing here?
Just my take on it.
Too rich for my blood.
George
George, thank you for most insightful take on this thing we call love.
I see where U are coming from, but there is something strange about how the progression on the other two dozens moves with U along the path of spins.
Its like the other dozens are lying in wait for the next move of the wheel/RNG, and "mop" up the residue before U have chance to say, 'Jiminy Cricket'.
I do have to say I like it.
I want it to be tested seriously, but it looks like the forum has given it a wide birth, and shunned the idea.
I know that dozens sleep, and the 30 level progression steps are a little steep for some, for me even, but there's merit in it to be looked at at least for a while.
And see how it performs on the Columns too.
I wonder what James Is thinking right now about this little fuse he has lit?
How are me Ducks on the Pond doing G?
Need some bread?
@ George.
I want to also say for the record, that I don't think it would ever come near to being-
3 x 1036.91 because all three dozens will have completely different values during the
progression run, and if U real think about it, one of the dozens, will always be at 1 unit
value, cause (after taking my Green Goblin Zero hero into consideration) there will always be a Dozen that hitting.
Like wise for the Columns if playing either one or the other, or as U eluded to, one could play both EC's (Dozens AND Columns) at the same time, with their own progression ratio levels and monitoring.
Quote from: Blood Angel on Dec 30, 06:14 PM 2010
I have seen a column(Col3 by the way) miss 24 times once :o
On Turbos site it is 32 if i remeber it correct.
These 'ere skips/sleeps...
Here're my analyses of almost 16 000 spins from DublinBet.
The tables are in this order: Dozen 1, Dozen 2, Dozen 3
SUMMARY OF SKIPS
TOTAL FOR SKIP 0: 1608 [zero means it won on the next spin, of course]
TOTAL FOR SKIP 1: 4358
TOTAL FOR SKIP 2: 2942
TOTAL FOR SKIP 3: 1985
TOTAL FOR SKIP 4: 1407
TOTAL FOR SKIP 5: 950
TOTAL FOR SKIP 6: 695
TOTAL FOR SKIP 7: 449
TOTAL FOR SKIP 8: 353
TOTAL FOR SKIP 9: 353
TOTAL FOR SKIP 10: 179
TOTAL FOR SKIP 11: 151
TOTAL FOR SKIP 12: 114
TOTAL FOR SKIP 13: 102
TOTAL FOR SKIP 14: 96
TOTAL FOR SKIP 15: 78
TOTAL FOR SKIP 16: 67
TOTAL FOR SKIP 17: 56
TOTAL FOR SKIP 18: 54
TOTAL FOR SKIP 19: 42
TOTAL FOR SKIP 20: 22
TOTAL FOR SKIP 21: 17
TOTAL FOR SKIP 22: 16
TOTAL FOR SKIP 23: 9
TOTAL FOR SKIP 24: 4
TOTAL FOR SKIP 25: 2
TOTAL FOR SKIP 26: 2
TOTAL FOR SKIP 27: 2
TOTAL FOR SKIP 28: 3
TOTAL FOR SKIP 29: 1
TOTAL FOR SKIP 30: 1
TOTAL FOR SKIP 31: 2
TOTAL FOR SKIP 32: 0
TOTAL FOR SKIP 33: 0
TOTAL FOR SKIP 34: 0
TOTAL FOR SKIP 35: 0
TOTAL FOR SKIP 36: 0
===============
SUMMARY OF SKIPS
TOTAL FOR SKIP 0: 1606
TOTAL FOR SKIP 1: 4343
TOTAL FOR SKIP 2: 2909
TOTAL FOR SKIP 3: 1975
TOTAL FOR SKIP 4: 1402
TOTAL FOR SKIP 5: 977
TOTAL FOR SKIP 6: 665
TOTAL FOR SKIP 7: 460
TOTAL FOR SKIP 8: 355
TOTAL FOR SKIP 9: 355
TOTAL FOR SKIP 10: 204
TOTAL FOR SKIP 11: 155
TOTAL FOR SKIP 12: 127
TOTAL FOR SKIP 13: 93
TOTAL FOR SKIP 14: 87
TOTAL FOR SKIP 15: 66
TOTAL FOR SKIP 16: 58
TOTAL FOR SKIP 17: 56
TOTAL FOR SKIP 18: 42
TOTAL FOR SKIP 19: 33
TOTAL FOR SKIP 20: 37
TOTAL FOR SKIP 21: 21
TOTAL FOR SKIP 22: 18
TOTAL FOR SKIP 23: 11
TOTAL FOR SKIP 24: 6
TOTAL FOR SKIP 25: 5
TOTAL FOR SKIP 26: 4
TOTAL FOR SKIP 27: 2
TOTAL FOR SKIP 28: 2
TOTAL FOR SKIP 29: 3
TOTAL FOR SKIP 30: 1
TOTAL FOR SKIP 31: 1
TOTAL FOR SKIP 32: 1
TOTAL FOR SKIP 33: 1
TOTAL FOR SKIP 34: 1
TOTAL FOR SKIP 35: 1
TOTAL FOR SKIP 36: 1
==============
SUMMARY OF SKIPS
TOTAL FOR SKIP 0: 1538
TOTAL FOR SKIP 1: 4345
TOTAL FOR SKIP 2: 2947
TOTAL FOR SKIP 3: 1945
TOTAL FOR SKIP 4: 1390
TOTAL FOR SKIP 5: 976
TOTAL FOR SKIP 6: 705
TOTAL FOR SKIP 7: 471
TOTAL FOR SKIP 8: 320
TOTAL FOR SKIP 9: 320
TOTAL FOR SKIP 10: 210
TOTAL FOR SKIP 11: 146
TOTAL FOR SKIP 12: 127
TOTAL FOR SKIP 13: 95
TOTAL FOR SKIP 14: 88
TOTAL FOR SKIP 15: 73
TOTAL FOR SKIP 16: 57
TOTAL FOR SKIP 17: 48
TOTAL FOR SKIP 18: 46
TOTAL FOR SKIP 19: 45
TOTAL FOR SKIP 20: 41
TOTAL FOR SKIP 21: 28
TOTAL FOR SKIP 22: 15
TOTAL FOR SKIP 23: 16
TOTAL FOR SKIP 24: 10
TOTAL FOR SKIP 25: 10
TOTAL FOR SKIP 26: 12
TOTAL FOR SKIP 27: 10
TOTAL FOR SKIP 28: 6
TOTAL FOR SKIP 29: 6
TOTAL FOR SKIP 30: 7
TOTAL FOR SKIP 31: 8
TOTAL FOR SKIP 32: 2
TOTAL FOR SKIP 33: 2
TOTAL FOR SKIP 34: 2
TOTAL FOR SKIP 35: 2
TOTAL FOR SKIP 36: 3
They are pretty revealing statistics esoito,
What's striking is the skips from 24 to 36 on the 1st dozen (a combined total of 17)
and
The combined total of skips from 24 to 36 on the 3rd dozen = 80. A difference of 63! :-\
It would be interesting to see if this held up after a few more large samples.
thanks for the data.
You're very welcome, flukey.
I appreciate your thanks. Writing the program sure had its moments 'cos I don't find coding at all easy!
May the stats help line your pocket :)
As for a larger sample -- I now have 700 000 spins from Wiesbaden, gathered over a 5-year period.
That'll be interesting...
Quote from: chrisbis on Dec 30, 06:47 PM 2010
@ George.
I want to also say for the record, that I don't think it would ever come near to being-
3 x 1036.91 because all three dozens will have completely different values during the
progression run, and if you real think about it, one of the dozens, will always be at 1 unit
value, cause (after taking my Green Goblin Zero hero into consideration) there will always be a Dozen that hitting.
Like wise for the Columns if playing either one or the other, or as you eluded to, one could play both EC's (Dozens AND Columns) at the same time, with their own progression ratio levels and monitoring.
Hey Chris,
I'll remind you of the system called harvesting the zero. It's one of my favorites. Sounds like a crazy idea, but if you have a large enough bank it's almost infallible.
In case you can't remember it: You play all 3 dozens betting differentially. On a win you reduce the bet on the winning dozen by 2 units and add 1 unit to the 2 that lost. You always bet 1 unit on the zero. The idea is that you're winning a little on the dozens and then when a zero hits, you rake in the bucks. A few Zeros close together can send you out the door with a pocket full of money.
Also, my system REH vs BOL posted in Notepad is a system that bets differentially on all three e.c.s and I've had excellent results with it betting a 6 step marty, but reset all to 1 when at a new high. BTW it's the system I play most at the local Indian casino here in town and I've never lost a real session playing it. I don't know if it's an imperfection in the airball machine like Flatino's or what.
I like differential betting, but your not betting differentially, although you should. It will save a few bucks when the zero does hit.
As far as the stats re: how many times a dozen can sleep. A system that resets on all 3 when a new high is reached, can miss a lot of those losses because you may reset a couple of times before the sleeping dozen starts getting into high enough numbers that the other 2 can't counterbalance it.
Just random thoughts. Maybe something will make sense to you, I'm not sure it does to me.
George