Hello Friends,
I posted some strategies for using Kimo Li's ideas on an earlier forum, but here is my latest approach for your consideration. . .
You will be betting on the last six-numbered pie section to show. That is, bet six numbers for six spins. Let me be clear. You are playing six adjacent numbers on the wheel, of which there are six pie sections in total (6x6=36) not counting the zero(s). . . the numbers in each section should be memorized, whether it be the American or European wheel.
If one of the six chosen numbers wins on any spin, add one unit to each of the six bets for the remaining number of spins in the six-spin sequence. For example, if you have a winner on the second spin, then add one unit to each number for the remaining four spins in the sequence (two units on each number). And, if, for example, you then have a win on the fifth spin, then you would bet three units on each number for one more spin, completing the six-spin sequence. If the same pie section wins on the sixth spin, always reset to 1 unit and bet the same six numbers for six more spins, adding one unit to all six bets after each and any win, and finishing out the six-spin sequence that way. If on the sixth spin, a different pie section shows (which would be a losing bet), start all over again with one unit, and bet the new, six-numbered section the same way for six spins only, adding one unit to each bet after a win, for the remaining spins.
ALWAYS reset to one unit after each six-spin sequence, no matter what, and start the up-as-you-win progression all over again. If the section you are betting is adjacent to the zero, you may add the zero to your bets, for a total of seven numbers played, but that is optional. Of course, if you have a good croupier, he or she may notice what you are doing, and try to avoid your chosen section. Then you must try an entirely different method, like one of the ones I previously posted. For this reason, this method may actually do better on random number generated numbers.
Please write with your questions or comments.
Good Luck!
Ben
(in response to a question from a member. . . )
Just look at the wheel, ignore the zero for now. Then divide the wheel into six equal pie sections, each having six numbers. I will assume that you play on a European wheel, so here are the six different sections (clockwise from the zero):
32,15,19,4,21,2
25,17,34,6,27,13
36,11,30,8,23,10
5,24,16,33,1,20
14,31,9,22,18,29
7,28,12,35,3,26
These MUST be memorized! I don't care how you label each section. Whatever helps you to best remember them is O. K. with me.
Look at the last number to show, and play the six numbers in that section for six spins, increasing each bet by one unit after a win. Keep increasing all six bets by one unit after any win. Do not decrease your bets until you start a new six-spin sequence. No matter what happens, after six spins, reset all bets to one unit. If you have no wins in six spins, then you will only be betting ONE unit on each of the six numbers, for a total of 36 units lost. If you win on the sixth spin, you are even for the sequence. Then play the same numbers for six more spins, starting with one unit on each number. The numbers you bet on each and every six-spin sequence will be determined by whichever number shows on the sixth spin, then start with one unit, and bet all six numbers in that section. After a win, increase all bets by one unit for the remainder of spins in that particular six-spin sequence.
Works for me!
If you send me some real spins (not made up), then I will take you through the whole thing, and explain each step. Send me results from at least 100 spins.
I was lucky enough to befriend Kimo Li, and he taught me a lot about how to play the wheel. Now I understand the power of his approach, and will never again place bets according to the board (baise). But there are MANY ways to map the wheel, and bet according to how you decide to divide the numbers on the wheel. This is just one way I came up with. I am constantly finding new and effective ways to play Roulette, but now, all of them are based on the WHEEL, not the baise. Of course, you can still lose your money playing this way, as nothing is fool-proof in gambling, but I believe this is the best way to increase your chances of winning.
Best regards for the New Year!
Ben
Thanks ;D
Try this. Live spins from Playtech.
Quotenow, all of them are based on the WHEEL
Sound advice.
Wheel-based selections include a physical aspect, which may help you.
Also, very kind of you Benmaster to be willing to share.
Cheers!
This i s a LOSER and will NOT Win!
do you know any other system from kimo li principles?
thx in advance
:thumbsup:
The Information from Kimo Li is a Tool how to read the wheelbased outcome and how to estimate the Dealer's movement. There is no "systems" provided whatsoever in his books.
You must all study his books and make your own conclusions on how to take advantage. There is enough info to gain profit on a regular Basis.
Happy New Year
Quote from: Compa on Jan 03, 05:19 AM 2011
The Information from Kimo Li is a Tool how to read the wheelbased outcome and how to estimate the Dealer's movement. There is no "systems" provided whatsoever in his books.
You must all study his books and make your own conclusions on how to take advantage. There is enough info to gain profit on a regular Basis.
Happy New Year
still do anyone wanna share any of those consistent ways?
(i did read both kimo li books)
thx
You mean someone want to give you something for free without You work it out yourself?
yes i mean that.
it is called share...
Hi everyone, and thanks for all your comments. I have tried MANY ways to work this (I work on this every day). . . and I often practice with RGN. My best run so far took a "virtual" bankroll of $5000 all the way up to $350,000! How did I do it? Start with one unit on each of the six bets (no longer increasing after a win, like before) and after every losing six-spin sequence, I would increase all bets by one unit, until I was ahead, then go back to one unit on each.
I started with $5 units, until my bankroll doubled, then went to $10 units, and when it doubled again, $20 units, etc. , until my units were $100, then $200, and, finally $300. Not such a bad way to play. The winning streaks are glorious, but if you have too many losing six-numbered sequences, your bets increase too much, and you can lose everything. No surprise there, eh?
Now I am testing a much more conservative way, using just FLAT BETS. So here it is. Just to recap the basic strategy behind this method, the wheel [excluding the Zero(s)] is divided into six, equal pie sections, each containing six numbers (6x6=36). Based on the last number that comes out, you are betting the six-numbered pie section (six adjacent numbers on the wheel) that contains the last number to show. Bet the same six numbers for six spins. Whatever number shows on the sixth spin, bet that pie section for six spins. Always use Flat Bets! If you want, you may increase the size of your units as your bankroll grows, but that is up to you. Now, here's the main feature of this variation (which some of you compulsive gamblers out there will no doubt really hate). Any time you lose all six spins in a six-bet sequence, quit for a few hours, or, for the day. Play another game, strategy, or whatever. Go hit the buffet! Or, if you're really hard-core, simply find another roulette table, and start up again. But, if you do that, you should definitly put a strict limit on how many six-spin sequences you can allow yourself to lose before quitting for the day. I suggest no more than two or three losing six-spin sequences in a day. But, really, after just one losing sequence, you should always take a break.
This way, you severely limit your losses and losing streaks, and at the same time, letting the winning streaks run on. If you get a hot table, you will win BIG! Just have the discipline to walk away after that first losing sequence! No matter what!
Sometimes, you will only get one winner in a sequence. . . that's O. K. Keep playing -you are even for that sequence. No problem there.
Also, if you want to choose a section that you notice has had a couple of hits within six spins, that's O. K. , too. Sometimes that works better. But mostly, I just bet whatever section shows on the sixth spin. You will often find yourself staying with the same section for a while.
Now, you might be thinking, "What if the Zero shows on the sixth spin?" Well, since I play on an American, double-zero wheel, I decided to play both Zeros, plus the number on either side of them (for a total of six numbers), which would be 0, 00, 1, 2, 27, and 28. You guys playing the European wheel will have to decide for yourselves what to do if the Zero hits on the sixth spin.
If you win a few spins as soon as you sit down, and this can easily happen, you could stop there, and not wait to give any of it back with a losing sequence. That would be much more conservative, but in doing that, you may miss out on a long winning streak.
If you find that you are even or behind after your first losing sequence, which could happen for a few consecutive sessions, do not despair! Be patient, and you will be rewarded.
I have worked out some other interesting ways to track the ball movement more precisely, using Kimo's guidlines, but this particular method was designed with ease and simplicity in mind.
I'll gladly post a more precision way that I track the ball, and therefore, the dealer signature, if you like.
Cheers!
Ben
The theory in choosing the last number spun to start Ur six-spin based sequence is based on what PRINCIPLE Ben?
Why the last number spun?
Chris
Quote from: chrisbis on Jan 16, 04:40 AM 2011
The theory in choosing the last number spun to start your six-spin based sequence is based on what PRINCIPLE Ben?
Why the last number spun?
Chris
There is not "PRINCIPLE", it's randomness !!
Any working principle is the same if is working i think :)
Quote from: Lulloz on Jan 16, 08:16 AM 2011
There is not "PRINCIPLE", it's randomness !!
Any working principle is the same if is working i think :)
So in other words, I could choose to start with ANY number from the wheel, and play THAT 6 piece slice of the pie around that number?
Is it choose a number and play the 3numbers around it, 3 each side of it (which would actually equal 7 numbers) or choose a number and take to next 5 numbers from it (on the wheel) Clockwise, Or CounterClockwise from it??
If you are a roulette player, you have to know yourself that a system is near to fresh air, is only a way to define a rules for you not for the game.
If i'm wrong, anyone can have a system that win always..
Have you seen a system that never fails ?
There are system that work better but if you follow a system with iron rules at the end it fail.
Prove me i'm wrong :)
You can ? ;)
Since you think that it would work best with RNG, I think that you could as well use numbers
from 1 to 36 and take your pie slices from there and have the same results.
What do you think about it. Any reason why it would be different? ???
Playing adjacent numbers on the wheel is nothing new. There have been many systems using this principle. One that I remember is CPR Roulette, but it used more than six numbers, and had a progression that required a large bankroll. With my flat betting strategy, you only need to go to the table with 36 units. Your "Lifetime Bankroll" should be 10 times your buy-in. This is also similar to what Kimo recommended to me. He said that if you are playing with $5 units, you should go to the table with $500 (but only take out $200 at first), and have a $5000 bankroll to play with. But with my flat betting system, if your units are $5, then your buy in would be $180, and you total bankroll should be $1800.
As far as mechanical systems go, I believe the ones that focus on wheel sections are among the best and most profitable.
O. K. , now let's get to your recent comments/questions about the number selection. Like I said before, this method was devised for the sake of simplicity. You can have much more precise (and also more complicated) methods of number selection.
Firstly, let me say that my belief is that you should NOT play numbers, or sections that have not shown recently, for the simple reason that you are just begging to find numbers that are going to stay cold, possibly for an extremely long time. You are doing nothing more than seeking a long losing streak when you play cold numbers! In my experience, the only time you should play cold numbers is when there is a change of dealer. The new dealer's signature is almost certain to hit those cold numbers. Track the numbers (or sections), and play the ones that the old dealer never hit -as soon as the new dealer takes over.
But, now, back to our disscussion. For the sake of creating a simple, mechanical method that has the possibility of winning, I chose to bet the section that contains the number that shows on the last spin of the sequence, or the sixth spin. At least that section is "in play". I also mentioned that you could simply play the global pie section that hit more that once within the last six spins. That can be very effective, too. But then, you have more considerations, such as, "How many times should a section hit before I play it?", and "If it has hit more that two or three times within six spins, is the streak now over?" This can become unnecessarily stressful!
My bet selection method is much simpler, with much less to think about, and still pretty effective.
In all fairness, I will admit that in theory, you could choose ANY six numbers and get similar results. In theory. . . but I personally, never made as much from just betting a six-numbered line bet randomly.
For those of you that have read and understand the basic terms in Kimo's books, I will be happy to post a very precise method of ball tracking that I have used in the casinos with great success. But keep in mind that not every dealer has an easily detectable pattern, and there are many other factors that affect this, such as, "How many people are at the table?", "Does the dealer have a lot of chips to sort between spins?", "Does the dealer deliberately hold the ball before releasing it, or throw the ball very fast and hard?", "Does the wheel have deep pockets, or shallow ones?", "Does the ball seem to have a lot of extra bounce?"
Just play the section that shows on the sixth spin, and quit for a while after losing six spins in a row, and all of that other stuff won't matter as much. Quite simply, if the dealer's pattern doesn't fit this betting selection, you will automatically be off that table, but if the dealer is throwing a pattern that fits, then you will win a packet!!! For sure, and with minimal risk!
Folks, I hope this doesn't disappoint you, but that is really the best you can hope for with a 100% mechanical system.
Best Regards to All!
Ben
Quote from: Compa link=topic=3266. msg30196#msg30196 date=1294049979
The Information from Kimo Li is a Tool how to read the wheelbased outcome and how to estimate the Dealer's movement. There is no "systems" provided whatsoever in his books.
You must all study his books and make your own conclusions on how to take advantage. There is enough info to gain profit on a regular Basis.
Happy New Year
Exactly right, Compa! I could not have said it better.
Quote from: chrisbis link=topic=3266. msg31992#msg31992 date=1295189756
So in other words, I could choose to start with ANY number from the wheel, and play THAT 6 piece slice of the pie around that number?
Is it choose a number and play the 3numbers around it, 3 each side of it (which would actually equal 7 numbers) or choose a number and take to next 5 numbers from it (on the wheel) Clockwise, Or CounterClockwise from it??
The way I play, chrisbis, it doesn't matter where the number is in that pie slice. It could be the last number of the six, or the first, or somewhere in the middle. Let me emphasize that I have tried to keep this method simple, because I like to relax at the table. However, the ways that you suggest are quite valid, as well. -Ben
QuoteYou are doing nothing more than seeking a long losing streak when you play cold numbers! In my experience, the only time you should play cold numbers is when there is a change of dealer. The new dealer's signature is almost certain to hit those cold numbers. Track the numbers (or sections), and play the ones that the old dealer never hit -as soon as the new dealer takes over.
Makes a lot of sense.
I had said this earlier in the forum, and certain members said it had no effect on the outcome, I always thought it did. cheers Ben.
I agree, crisbis, but it may not always work. Usually, in the casinos that I've played, by the time they change dealers, there are about four or five numbers that the previous dealer did not hit. . . maybe they still won't come out, but they very often do.
By the way, for those of you that have sent me some spins to analize, I will get to them as soon as I have some time this week.
Well Ben at least one could say that there's the possibility of the dealer change affecting the next few outcomes.
I know the wheel has no memory.
I know the ball sure has no memory.
And the dealer should not be able to deliberately affect the spin outcome.
But I acknowledge and note Ur experiences at the B & M casino tables.
Cheers.
Hello, here is a PM someone sent me recently that I have decided to share with you, along with my response, of course:
"Ben what RNG do you practice with? if you just play in fun mode playtech RNG or similiar stuff they are created especially for you to win and then go to real mode and lose"
my response:
Recently, I practiced a little on the BetUS website. . . but one day, I accidentally started playing for real money, when I thought I was playing for free, and more than doubled the amount that I had on deposit with them by the time I realized it! Go figure!
But, mostly, and especially when I "earned" the $350,000, I was playing on the "Hoyle Casino 2008" program that I purchased at an electronics store a couple of years ago (you can only play for fun).
Currently, I am testing my latest flat betting method on the Hoyle 2008, starting with $5000, and following my exit rule very strictly, I have run it up to $30,200 in just a few days.
Generally, over the last two years or so, I have NOT found the Hoyle Casino 2008 program very easy to beat.
Right now, I do not live near any casinos like I used to, but the next time I go to one, I believe I will play this way.
I was in Las Vegas in Sept. 2010, joining some of my family members for the weekend, and in just a few minutes, I doubled my bankroll at a roulette table, using a Kimo-based strategy, and quit for the rest of the weekend!
I am a FIRM believer in quitting while you're ahead! It is really one of the most important lessons you can learn in gambling. Actually, many years ago, I took private lessons with a 'Pro' in Vegas, and that is THE MOST IMPORTANT thing I learned.
Please learn to Quit while you're Ahead!!! (and ALWAYS follow your exit rules to limit your losses, assuming you have set some. haha) Cheers!
QuoteBut, mostly, and especially when I "earned" the $350,000, I was playing on the "Hoyle Casino 2008" program that I purchased at an electronics store a couple of years ago (you can only play for fun).
Is this software still available do U know, and does anyone have a comparison between it and RX produced numbers?
Ben, does it produce a series of numbers,
or just pseudo random at Ur behest?
Sounds good for testing to! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Benmaster on Jan 16, 06:47 PM 2011
For those of you that have read and understand the basic terms in Kimo's books, I will be happy to post a very precise method of ball tracking that I have used in the casinos with great success.
Best Regards to All!
Ben
Hi Ben. Thanks for posting. Im very interested in your trackingmethod. I look forward to take part of it.
Cheers
Quote from: Lulloz on Jan 16, 11:06 AM 2011
If you are a roulette player, you have to know yourself that a system is near to fresh air, is only a way to define a rules for you not for the game.
If i'm wrong, anyone can have a system that win always..
Have you seen a system that never fails ?
There are system that work better but if you follow a system with iron rules at the end it fail.
Prove me i'm wrong :)
You can ? ;)
Thank you for your post, Mr. Lulloz.
Firstly, I would like to quote from one of my professional gambling mentors in Las Vegas.
He said, "There are four things that can happen during a gambling session:
1) you can win a little.
2) you can win a lot.
3) you can lose a little.
4) you can lose a lot.
Just eliminate the fourth one, and you can make money"
There is only one "iron rule" that will not fail if you follow it: The stop-loss exit rule!!!
Whether you are ahead, or not, if you lose a little, GET OUT, to prevent yourself from losing a lot. Especially when you are ahead!!! Accept small losses when they come, and never let them turn into big ones! NEVER follow a losing streak! End it at the very beginning. This one rule, plus a reasonably good strategy, can make you a winner. That is why my latest flat-betting, 100% mechanical system requires that you stop after losing six spins in a row. You could, of course, stop even sooner, if you are ahead, and you feel the tide turning against you.
Good Luck, my friend!
Ben
Quote from: chrisbis on Jan 17, 02:19 AM 2011
Is this software still available do you know, and does anyone have a comparison between it and RX produced numbers?
Ben, does it produce a series of numbers,
or just pseudo random at your behest?
Sounds good for testing to! :thumbsup:
Actually, Chris, sometimes I almost felt that the Hoyle Casino 2008 software was analizing my play, and working against me! But, then again playing roulette, electronically, or in a real casino, will often give one that feeling. N'est pas?
MMmm
Like having one's own 'cheating', or at best- 'altering of outcome', RNG station in one's living room/study!!
Where does one get one of these software 'friends' ? ?
Quote from: chrisbis on Jan 16, 08:23 PM 2011
Well Ben at least one could say that there's the possibility of the dealer change affecting the next few outcomes.
I know the wheel has no memory.
I know the ball sure has no memory.
And the dealer should not be able to deliberately affect the spin outcome.
But I acknowledge and note your experiences at the B & M casino tables.
Cheers.
Thanks Chris et al for this most interesting thread.
Dealer Signature is a mirage.
Game patterns transcend dealer change always.
The 'wheel' actually does have a memory trace - more correctly "The Game"
It has a life of its own that consists of a lot of energies combining, and yes very occasionally, the Dealer has a contribution to this but merely as an intermediary.
Our perception of the Dealer - friendly/ hostile - good associations/ bad associations - has more impact.
The Life Energy and its manifestation in the outcome of the spin results can be 'tuned into' at times and that is indeed when the exact number can be predicted and taken advantage of for profit.
It is both simple and complex at the same time.
Looking forward to following these posts with great interest. I really like the advice for a NO LOSS approach, and the application with flat bets. Thanks. XXVV
Quote from: chrisbis on Jan 16, 08:23 PM 2011
"And the dealer should not be able to deliberately affect the spin outcome." (chrisbis)
This topic about whether the dealer can significantly affect the game is always a popular one on these forums! I, personally believe that the dealer CAN definitly affect the game. I have my own experiential proof, based on real play in "B&M" casinos. Some casinos I've played in have instructed the dealers not to look at the wheel at the moment they throw the ball.
Perhaps this is another topic, for another day.
With regards to someone else's post: As far as "dealer signature" being an illusion...I believe some dealers can easily be tracked, and some cannot. How you feel about the dealer could definitly have an effect on the game. It also depends on how much activity is going on at the table at that moment.
And, Lastly, I really don't know where you can find the Hoyle Casino 2008 software. I bought mine at a large electronics dealer in the Los Angeles area, called "Fry's". That's all I can tell you for now.
Kindest regards,
Ben
I have both books from Kimo and see not a chance make any profitable system from it. It is only information how the wheel is organized from "Kimo's angle". Kimo see the wheel that way but nothing new under the sky.
Kimo made more money on selling those 2 books than on his life's gambling together. The books are his best system. Many gurus do it the same way in Forex trading! They make money on teaching others how to lose. I agree with Compa.
Hi compa, I cannot log to Numeris forum (carlo), what's wrong?
Cheers Hermes
Hi Hermes. The Numeris-site is down for maintenance I think ;)
Cheers!
QuoteKimo made more money on selling those 2 books than on his life's gambling together.
There is nothing more irritating to me than someone who makes a statement that is not true. Unless you have access to the information on how much money is generated from my books, please refrain from making untrue statements.
It's like saying someone has made more money looking down on the ground than looking up in the sky, although that could be true.
Kimo Li
?
Quote from: Hermes on Jan 17, 06:47 PM 2011
I have both books from Kimo and see not a chance make any profitable system from it. It is only information how the wheel is organized from "Kimo's angle". Kimo see the wheel that way but nothing new under the sky.
Kimo made more money on selling those 2 books than on his life's gambling together. The books are his best system. Many gurus do it the same way in Forex trading! They make money on teaching others how to lose. I agree with Compa.
Hi compa, I cannot log to Numeris forum (carlo), what's wrong?
Cheers Hermes
Hermes u r my friend but u r very wrong and unfair
Quote from: iggiv on Jan 18, 01:04 AM 2011
Hermes you are my friend but you are very wrong and unfair
Just to wipe out all doubts about Kimo Li's books:
1. I agree with Iggv, You are wrong Hermes and do not know what you are talking about.
2. The basics for the Holy Grail is in Kimo Li's books.
Ende
Cheers!
Friends, thanks for showing your support of my good friend, Kimo! I owe him a lot of gratitude. He is very real, and just for your information, I have already received a PM containing VERY POSITIVE test results of my Flat Betting system.
Kimo, it's very nice to see you posting. I wish you and your Family a very happy and prosperous New Year!
Best regards,
Ben
Quote from: Benmaster on Jan 19, 02:49 AM 2011
Friends, thanks for showing your support of my good friend, Kimo! I owe him a lot of gratitude. He is very real, and just for your information, I have already received a PM containing VERY POSITIVE test results of my Flat Betting system.
Kimo, it's very nice to see you posting. I wish you and your Family a very happy and prosperous New Year!
Best regards,
Ben
+1
(let me join my wishes too)
If you can't understand the way to play the Kimo way, then please don't play. 6 numbers per pie. Movement to check and then you play.
From the info on the forum I learned to play this way. It works!
Only 6 numbers or even less to play for a win.
Thanks to Kimo
Twocando.
I agree! Six numbers, or less is ideal.
The system I posted on this thread does not track the ball movement for each spin, but rather, stays on the same pie section for six spins.
My basic reasoning behind this is, quite simply, THE BALL TENDS TO GO WHERE IT'S BEEN!
It may take a few spins to get back there, but I believe it happens often enough within a six-spin sequence, so that a profit can be realized.
Please understand, tracking the ball movement as Kimo Li suggests in his books, and on his website, WORKS GREAT!!! Really Great! But it does require much more effort and concentration. Those who are willing to do the extra work will certainly be rewarded.
The strategy I posted on this thread can be played by flat-betting, or with a progression, and with a minium of stress, for those of you who favor a more relaxed style of playing.
Practicing on a non-internet casino RGN, my $5000 starting bankroll from a couple of days ago is currently in excess of $105,000. Others have also gotten good results testing with actual casino spins. Anyway, I hope sharing this helps.
Good Luck to All!
Ben
Thanks for posting Ben, but how do You deal with this?:
3 consecutive losses. Unacceptable..
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Cheers
Compa
I have done numerous testing on this, and have seen a fair few 3 losses (never 4 though) and it pulls itself out of the hole and back into plus more often than not.
I say don't be disheartened by the 3 loss, include your own personal stop loss, which could be after 2 losses for example...but in the sake of testing, I just kept on and was encouraged by how it panned out.
Out of 9 tests so far, each between 100-150 actuals, only one session was a loser at -108.
All the others were winners, over half of which were large winners (between +80 and 200)
These included the 3 losses as I said.
Buffalo
It can happen, Compa.
That is why I suggest taking a break after the first losing sequence of six.
Take a break, or move to another table.
With this system, you will not win unless you get to a table where the ball tends to return to the same place on the wheel. You could also spend some time qualifying the table before you sit down.
If you have played roulette at the tables long enough, you will agree that this scenario does happen often. That is, where you are seeing the ball return to the same part of the wheel repeatedly. If it is not happening at a particular table, you will lose if you keep playing there.
The exit rule prevents you from falling into that trap.
Thanks for all you work on this, Buffalo.
Obviously, you could play another strategy and switch to this one when you notice the pattern is in favor of this method.
We have all studied many different ways to play roulette, and it all boils down to our ability to recognize what is happing at the table, at that particular moment, and be able to respond in a way that is profitable. Sticking to one system too rigidly is never a good idea.
The board where the bets are placed, with all of its temptations, means nothing to me anymore!
When Kimo taught me how to know and read the wheel in an orderly fashion, THAT is when my play finally improved...exponentially!
The style of play that I presented in this thread will always be a part of my roulette 'tool kit'. I believe it has the potential to make some serious, consistant money.
I plan on continuing to find new ways to read and respond to what is happening on the wheel, and I thank everyone for all the helpful and necessary feedback I have received.
Ben
I would like to add an alternative Trackingmethod for the Global Pies. It is very simple.
1. Track 6 spins
2. When we have 2 or more hits in the same Pie within 6 spins, play that Pie for 6 spins.
3. When we have 2 hits in two same Pies within 6 spins, ie: 14.31.2.21, play that two Pies
for 3 spins.
4. If hit, within the 6 spins, wait for the 6 spin-sequence to finish. Then start a new 6 spin-sequence.
Very simple.
Cheers!
I like it, Compa!
You are following trends in the Pie sections, and you won't miss when a new trend starts, which is the irritating thing about the way I play: watching other pie sections trending when I'm wasting money on a dead section. You seem to have found an effective way to avoid this.
I believe the "Law of the Third" applies to the six-numbered pie sections quite well.
Which simply means that (at least in the short term), sections of the wheel tend to repeat, while others may go cold.
But I must warn anyone reading this that a sharp dealer can easily keep the ball OFF YOUR CHOSEN SECTION! I believe this is the inherant weakness of my flat-betting method, hence, my very conservative exit strategy...
Quote from: Benmaster on Jan 23, 06:50 PM 2011
I like it, Compa!
But I must warn anyone reading this that a sharp dealer can easily keep the ball OFF YOUR CHOSEN SECTION! I believe this is the inherant weakness of my flat-betting method, hence, my very conservative exit strategy...
Well.. thats why i have 2 other variations to pull out the sleeve if the Dealer decide to get grumpy..lol
Cheers!
That's the spirit, Compa!
A mechanic has to have more than one tool in his (or her) toolbox!
The "Nuke" would probably be better protection against "grumpy" dealers!
Kimo once told me that the nuke is his personal favorite.
HI there,my first post on this forum,but ive been around on forums,especially VLS. I also like to play kimo li principles,which of course i purchase a copy of his book for american wheel. Im particular interested in Nuke strategy,and would be great to be a nuke specialist.
Seykid.
Hi, and welcome seykid31. I'll post some of my ideas on how the nuke should be played soon.
Best Regards,
Ben
ok. I have posted on Vls and Rouletteforum. net some kimo ways. Now im learning to read the game,I play more kimo strategies. Mixture of following patterns into Hemi,Nuke,Bow tie. . im trying my best to master 6 numbers betting strategyy. . but at maximum I can play 12 numbers. But mostly on aiirball.
Seykid.
The nuke can be played with less than 18 numbers...instead of 3 x 6 numbers, you could play 3 x 3 (called the "quad"), or even 3 x 1
For example, assuming you play the European wheel, instead of
32,15,19,4,21,2
36,11,30,8,23,10
14,31,9,22,18,29
you could play a "quad" (because there are 4 of them), which looks like this:
32,15,19
36,11,30
14,31,9
or, just three numbers, which I call a Nuke trio, or Nuke triad:
32
36
14
I have not refined this system yet, but you can play 3 nuke trios based on the last numbers to show...
If the last numbers to show are 32, 17, and 21 then I would play the following 9 numbers.
32, 36, 14
17, 24, 28
21, 23, 18
I would welcome any help or comments on how to play this way to the best advantage.
Cheers!
Ben
Hi
Im already familiar with such strategies,but nuke trio if you not using matrix a good one,i guess like Holyman excell in,seen his posts,it is a blind shot for most bets.
Seykid.
Now I am testing a much more conservative way, using just FLAT BETS. So here it is. Just to recap the basic strategy behind this method, the wheel [excluding the Zero(s)] is divided into six, equal pie sections, each containing six numbers (6x6=36). Based on the last number that comes out, you are betting the six-numbered pie section (six adjacent numbers on the wheel) that contains the last number to show. Bet the same six numbers for six spins. Whatever number shows on the sixth spin, bet that pie section for six spins. Always use Flat Bets! If you want, you may increase the size of your units as your bankroll grows, but that is up to you. Now, here's the main feature of this variation (which some of you compulsive gamblers out there will no doubt really hate). Any time you lose all six spins in a six-bet sequence, quit for a few hours, or, for the day. Play another game, strategy, or whatever. Go hit the buffet! Or, if you're really hard-core, simply find another roulette table, and start up again. But, if you do that, you should definitly put a strict limit on how many six-spin sequences you can allow yourself to lose before quitting for the day. I suggest no more than two or three losing six-spin sequences in a day. But, really, after just one losing sequence, you should always take a break.
This way, you severely limit your losses and losing streaks, and at the same time, letting the winning streaks run on. If you get a hot table, you will win BIG! Just have the discipline to walk away after that first losing sequence! No matter what!
Sometimes, you will only get one winner in a sequence. . . that's O. K. Keep playing -you are even for that sequence. No problem there.
Also, if you want to choose a section that you notice has had a couple of hits within six spins, that's O. K. , too. Sometimes that works better. But mostly, I just bet whatever section shows on the sixth spin. You will often find yourself staying with the same section for a while.
UPDATE: FEB.20th, 2011
Now I am increasing my bet by one unit after a win, but only for one spin. If you do not win the second, "parlay" bet, go back to one unit. If you win the increased bet, add one more unit to all six bets, for a total of three units on each number. Keep incresing your bets by one unit, as long as you are winning consecutive spins. Anytime you lose a bet, go back to betting one unit on each number.