Thought That Might Get Ur Attention!.
I have a real time announcement to make.
Myself and another member in the Forum are in the process of Testing, calibrating, adjusting(progression), and Stabilising a New 3 Dozens Bot.
Descriptions, Progressions used, casino choice, chip values, bugs alerts, process, timeout problems, Bank Roll requirements, and a whole host of associated features will be discussed,
debated, posted in this and an additional Topics.
Stats will be available for download and verification.
If u have some numbers U would like Us to crunch through the Bot, then fire them here or thro PM.
Any ideas, additions, adaptation, and ALL Ur thoughts will be most welcome.
Global Mods will be doing there usual business, but constructive analysis,
AND critique is not just welcome- its an absolute necessity for this process- so give me/it Ur best Barrels worth.
Offensive language will of course not be tolerated, and tho the occasional- "I told U so" will be swallowed up I the main thrust of the Topic, It would be nice to not see TOO many of them here.
We are pretty much up to speed with what the Risk/Reward gamble is here, so think carefully about how this Topic could be just what U have been looking for, and join in.
Its a Trade-off.
To Play, Not to play....................That is the Question.
This is a Forum attempt at running a full testing, Debating, and deep look into this subject.
U may have Ur own take on it.
U may have no take on it, in which case, I'll see U on the other subjects.
(Note to All)
This Topic in no way implies that there is no need or desire to keep looking, learning, trying, testing all manor of other systems, trackers, bots, methods, and progressions.
I certainly will not be single minded on the game of Roulette, tho I thought 3 Dozens, has enough merit to Flag it up for Forum to see that there's serious work and effort going on over here.
So here it is then- not a new section, but when U arrive here, U should know from Now till U leave this Topic we are discussing:-
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And No...............I'm Not Pregnant.........................I think!
The Starting Point.
From play fun money of $5000. the tool has ran this morning for approx 22minutes.
I may have stopped it a minute or two)
Its playing 0.10c chips.
Betting all 3 Dozens.
Progression set to 24 levels.
1,1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,31,47,70,105,158,237,355,533,799,1199,1798,2697,4046,6069,10313
It made +$187.00
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Latest Screen shot with time ref.
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Has the bot ran the full 24 steps without a win yet?
if not how far has it got (max step) ?
looks very promising indeed, are you guys coding it yourself?
i would be happy to beta test / help with coding, adjustments, feedback etc.... if you need any extra help then gimmie a shout
is there any playtech casino at all that allows 0.01 min bet? i thought 0.10 was min? i know thats the figure you have quoted above chris!
im sure that matt over at super roulette had a dozen sleep for 27+ on more than one occasion, so please just be carefull guys, infact im sure the max he saw was like 33 spins sleeping. im not sure if this system is playing sleeping dozens or what, i need to do alot more reading up
Mike
Worst Case BR losses on 24 level Progression
This table shows what would happen to the prgression,
should 2 Dozens Sleep,
and only 1 Dozen is hitting-( Dozen B in this instance)
Next worst case would be for only " dozens to hit, and then Zero!
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Level,Progression, Doz A, Doz B, Doz C, Outlay on the table,Bank Roll notes
1,1,10,10,10,30, Starting of new session. Max BR
2,1,10,10,10,30,
3,2,20,10,20,50,
4,3,30,10,30,70,
5,4,40,10,40,90,
6,6,60,10,60,130,
7,9,90,10,90,190,
8,14,140,10,140,290
9,21,210,10,210,430,
10,31,310,10,310,630
11,47,470,10,470,950, ($10 would be wiped out)
12,70,700,10,700,1410,
13,105,1050,10,1050,2110, ($20 would be wiped out)
14,158,1580,10,1580,3170, ($30 would be wiped out)
15,237,2370,10,2370,4750, ($45 would be wiped out)
16,355,3550,10,3550,7110, ($70 would be wiped out)
17,533,5330,10,5330,10670, ($100 would be gone!)
18,799,7990,10,7990,15990, ($160 would be gone!)
19,1199,11990,10,11990,23990, ($240 gone)
20,1798,17980,10,17980,35970, ($360 gone)
21,2697,26970,10,26970,53950, ($540 gone)
22,4046,40460,10,40460,80930, ($800 gone)
23,6069,60690,10,60690,121390, ($1210 gone)
24,9103,91030,10,91030,182070, ($1820 gone)
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(All above values are placing 0.10 chip size on the table)
Also remember, no Zero is factored in this tables.
Quote from: Fraudster on Jan 07, 09:38 AM 2011
Has the bot ran the full 24 steps without a win yet?
if not how far has it got (max step) ?
looks very promising indeed, are you guys coding it yourself?
i would be happy to beta test / help with coding, adjustments, feedback etc.... if you need any extra help then gimmie a shout
is there any playtech casino at all that allows 0.01 min bet? i thought 0.10 was min? i know thats the figure you have quoted above chris!
im sure that matt over at super roulette had a dozen sleep for 27+ on more than one occasion, so please just be carefull guys, infact im sure the max he saw was like 33 spins sleeping. im not sure if this system is playing sleeping dozens or what, i need to do alot more reading up
Mike
- 24 level run - no not yet
- max to date for me is level 17 (779)
- my partner in code is the geek, I'm just the donkey
- Thanks for offer, Ur turn will come
- Yes, Playtech- Casino.com which we are using as one of the tables. 0.01c avail. but its very slow and quite noisey!! (at level 17- that's 799 x .01c pieces/chips to fire down)
- Hence I am testing with 0.10 chips value, to destruction point
- Its not playing sleeping Dozens- Sleepers are its down fall if that's what U mean!
- Careful is our middle name- well no cause its Paul in my case, but yer- cautious work
- Read up on my thoughts about twisting the bet progressions, so as to face the enemy, not shy away from it
Thanx Fraudster.
This is a method I usually classify as 'good' but not playable.
Ken
The method is not that bad at first sight, I had similar things for dozens. Well, I have copy pasted the progression into my code, so I will post a results there. The way it is played:
The progression is played for each dozen separaterly, but before betting, the lowest dozen is not bet, and the other two are reduced by it's bet size. So if it should bet 1,2,2, only 0,1,1 is bet. That's in order to not lost so much because of zero, and the results are same. Max two dozens are bet at a time. It's similar idea to differential betting on EC.
Now there are two ways it handles losing that progression.
1) It continues the max bet until it wins. Then the progression is reset to one.
2) It starts from one, progression is reset.
I will yet add the option where it bets max until it recovers.
Now the results for 1)
BTW this system is nice in short term, but if it loses, it is really bad. The progression might be shorter, or another tricks should be introduced.
Results are for a single zero roulette, RNG ranlux389.
Now results for option 2), immediate reset of progression...
The system have serious flaws. I would thing of something like global memory of lost progressions, and bet in order to recover when the dozen is missing for x spins, or such gambler's fallacy ideas. They sometimes work in short term...
Quote from: MrJ on Jan 07, 10:13 AM 2011
This is a method I usually classify as 'good' but not playable.
Ken
Thanx for joining in.
I am trying to "see" if it can be made better than the previous experience's of this "Good" game, and look for alternate methods for formate.
I think there are about 5 different ways of adopting an approach to this game/system.
I prefer (as can be seen in earlier testing notes) to call this a
ROUTINE, rather than a system, since them is no real system to follow, nothing the player can do to change the betting shape, all the player can do, is lay the bets, on each of the Dozens, and watch the results- then the same again, with progression.
With any other EC, like RED/ BLACK for instance, U have the choice each time to lets say, follow the streaks, go with the chops (Y a butchers involved here I don't know), or run with the Series movements as ego (link:://rouletteforum.cc/roulette-and-gambling-framework/cut-point-methodology/msg25541/#msg25541) mention some weeks ago.
When playing 3 Dozens or 3 Columns which is the sister act here, a new thinking could well be allowed to occur.
Cheers Ken.
What's on at the restaurant today then?
@
mr.ore
Thanx for those. will study in depth.
what was the progression again?
Same as we Have - Standard Fibonacci Progression?
Just checking with Ya.
Cheers.
A good 10 hours I'll be there today. We're suppose to be busy as hell (knock on wood).
Ken
Same progression as you, that was test of your system:
1,1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,31,47,70,105,158,237,355,533,799,1199,1798,2697,4046,6069,10313
On win, reset to the first, on loss, step to the right. I just pasted the progression to my old code, when I was beginning with roulette, I tested several xdozens systems. In the end, all "three dozens" system can be optimized to only two dozens.
I even tested progression 1,3,9,27,... played three times on dozens (1,2),(1,3),(2,3), of course in the end only two dozens were bet. It was very quick profit method, but tanked too often. Even faster were playing that at the same time both on dozens and columns. I tried to find a way how to balance loss among all the systems, but it only made things worse...
Just an observation, not a criticism, but it always puzzles me that people who often condemn the martingale as being dangerous then go on to use it for other chances. To me, a martingale is not just 1,2,4,8,16.... but any progression which recovers all past losses and generates a profit on a SINGLE bet.
In a marty, the increase in stake is 100% each time, but that's only because you're betting on the ECs. It's essentially the same if you're betting only half the losses (instead of all of them) and the odds are 2-1, because although the progression is less steep, the wins come proportionally less often.
Any chance of me getting a look at this bot?
QuoteI tried to find a way how to balance loss among all the systems, but it only made things worse
yeah been there done that too, tried for example
if ANY dozen progression > 100
doz A prog = 1/3
doz b prog = 1/3
doz c prog = 1/3
by adding them all together then dividing by 3, as you noticed mr.ore, it just makes it worse, I guess as each dozen is unique and has lost x so how can x be recovered elsewhere, maybe Bayes has a formulae for something similar.
I have also tried switching if any reach for example > 100 then move it to the dozen with the least chips/progression level AND also tried if doz A > x them swap it with doz B etc it just ends up chasing the ball again, and as luck will have it, when you move the progression the dozen you moved it from lands!! more often than not.
QuoteAny chance of me getting a look at this bot?
Theres nothing really to look at, the aim of the bot/tool is to run the game with the 3 dozen method in it, the bot is just a generic GUI with a start button and a pause/stop tick box, the pause is so you can just increment the tool one bet,spin check balance routine at a time.
I prefer to call it a tool rather than a bot, although it does everything a bot can do, or is able to do everything, when I see a method or think of a method to try, I just create a new betting file for the method in my mind and just compile the exe and run it, if the method has merit I save it in its own folder because you never know you may need that code or parts of it or the method could need some changes if something new comes to mind.
It has zero eye candy, wavey graphs, bells n whistles which all the other stuff sold on the web has, can't see a use for the eye candy, the tool just runs the method the balance tells the story, you know yourself, when roulettebot pro shows red figures and a downward graph, its depressing to see, I rather just check the balance periodicaly, you know within 10 minutes if its going to crash.
Latest.
Let tool run from 15:53hrs to 19:12hrs today- I have just gone in, and switched it off.
Taken screen shot for U all.
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Start Balance at 15:53 Hrs was- $5273.73
End Balance at 19:12 Hrs is - $5973.93Time played=
3Hrs 19minsTotal Profit made in
199mins(3Hrs19mins) =
$700.20Rate per minute=
$3.518/min........Rate per second=
$0.0586/secondRate per hour=
3hr 19mins =
3.3166hrs700.2 / 3.3166 =
$211.10/hour (approx)
Conclusions:-
- 24 level progression not broken in over 3 hours play.
- Casino.com held up to play on (Fun money account) for 3 hours
- 0.10 chip value is the way to earn the rate mention in prior posts.
- My laptop did not stop the Bot.
- The bot worked, and this session, never went over level 24
I'll post up the bot stats (With supermans approval) to show the highest progression level.
Looking good mate :thumbsup:
When you testin for Real Money ?
Wonder if that RNG will rape you with plenty of Zero's. Only time and a nice BR will tell :)
Highest Progression on the 3hrs 19mins session in Reply 17:-
DOZEN A = 1, DOZEN B = 1799, DOZEN C = 2
That's level 20, on our progression list. High. Had 4 more levels remaining. :-\
Nearly all the highest progressions where happening in the Middle Dozen- Doz B.
Full stats available if anyone wants them, and if anyone can produce me a graph, I'll pass them on to U.
Thank u in anticipation.
U mean- 'skin' me..............not much for the R word.
Not sure yet, I was hoping to build up a Ã,£3000 + BR by now
with the TippinG TooL.! ???
Ur right only dosh and time will tell. Can't wait tho. :-*
I highly recommend to stop NOW, before you lose it all. That system is not safe, Martingale-like systems are good only if you win your target with one hit, not for repeated play for a few units. What you are doing is pure gambling. Take your profit and leave, or at least reprogramm it so that max. bet is no more than half your profit and let it ride or even better bet half your profit on dozen in order to get max of it. Do not play this system, simulations have shown what can happen, and you are not guaranteed to survive any longer.
Now if a big bet happened, you MIGHT be safe for some spins, but please, limit your bet in order to ensure profit. You risk so much for so little every spin. If you are to make a big bet anyway, just do it now, and spare your time, or leave.
This system does not capitalize on profits, and that's really bad. If a good string of fortune is not utilized, and you only gain a bunch of small wins without going into a deep hole, than it is a wasted luck.
Maybe I misunderstood, if you play for a fun money, then continue. But it might happen that you really win, and when you switch to play for real money, you lose. It might be cheating, it might be personal permannence, it might be that fun mode uses simple rng in javascript. True RNGs and high quality pseudo RNG makes thing worse for systems, and cheating casino even more.
The 'limits' U mention are exactly what I have suggested.
The trick now is to choose where?
Also have a few other tricks up our sleeve.
mr.ore.....................can U produce a graph from our stats?
info is in this form:-
Program A 1 Program B 1799 Program C 2............db
Program A 2 Program B 1 Program C 3 ..................dc
da, db, dc = decision a or b or c
Program A = 1ST Dozen etc.........
Hmm, I don't fully understand that format of data. My program can read roulette numbers and play a coded system (each number on a separate line, no free lines without number).
If I understand, there are bet sizes for a progression, than some da,db,dc and that is for highest bet on a dozen. So you don't really bet two dozens, but only a highest one?
If you give me a file with da, db, dc, 0 each on one line, then da might be 1, db 13, dc 25 and 0 just 0, and if numbers are not used for anything, it could be used for simulation. Also I can detect win if progression in another spins is lower than in previous, but if it was max, than it could mean loss and reset or win and reset...
Why don't you save your balance every spin into a file, first number is spin, second a balance? Then you can very simply plot if with gnuplot. Decisions info can be commented with # or not present at all
example
0 0
# bet (1,0,3)
# result (L,L,W)
1 5
# bet (1,0,0)
# result (L,W,L)
2 4
3 6
4 5
and so on
Clarity.
A sample from the last session.
Its the first 16 spins.
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The description is:_
Dozen A(1ST), Amount bet, Dozen B(2ND), Amount bet, Dozen C(3RD), Amount bet,
at the end, the da or db or dc is what the result was after that bet/progression.
We bet and progress on each Dozen, on each spin, every spin. (At the moment- Virtual may be added for additional security)
I'll clear with superman what the cash means exactly- I think I know- just want to check the reference point at which it starts.
(Its a value of the amounts used in the total progression, current & highest.)
Hope this is helping.
Love to see a graph of the last session I posted.
Could you past that last session in a text format, or as an attachment txt file?
QuoteI'll clear with superman what the cash means exactly
Cash = Current bankroll as it groes, or decreases, Peak = Highest bankroll achieved, I use it in some other tools as a reference point if I am chasing it, usualy with a fibo progression if the current bank is lower than the peak go back -1 if its higher or lower within a tolerence or within a percentage of peak go back -2, the 3 doz tool doesnt do that its just the same printout I used, thought it made sense
Prog A 1 Prog B 1 Prog C 1 Cash 0 Peak 0 - dc <---- we started with 0
Prog A 2 Prog B 2 Prog C 1 Cash 1 Peak 0 - db
Prog A 3 Prog B 1 Prog C 2 Cash 4 Peak 1 - da
Prog A 1 Prog B 2 Prog C 3 Cash 4 Peak 4 - db
Prog A 2 Prog B 1 Prog C 4 Cash 0 Peak 4 - db
Prog A 3 Prog B 1 Prog C 6 Cash -7 Peak 4 - db
Prog A 4 Prog B 1 Prog C 9 Cash -18 Peak 4 - db
Prog A 6 Prog B 1 Prog C 14 Cash -36 Peak 4 - db
Prog A 9 Prog B 1 Prog C 21 Cash -40 Peak 4 - da
Prog A 1 Prog B 2 Prog C 31 Cash -71 Peak 4 - da
Prog A 1 Prog B 3 Prog C 47 Cash 19 Peak 4 - dc <---- ended with 19 units profit
The next entry was
Prog A 2 Prog B 4 Prog C 1 Cash 18 Peak 19 - da sea the peak is now at 19.
Its just a calculation amount that can be used anywhere really.
As you can see the progressions is straight forward, follow th progression of doz C so you can understand what it all relates to, any questions fire away.
Testing graph...
Though metaphorically speaking,
We may be expecting a baby
on this one (If the stork bird delivers what 'We're' hoping for!),
and I titled the Topic with the Pregnant phrase,
for the purpose of clarity, TAG words, searches, Guests
and future views of this, and subsequent graphs,
can we call the graph- 3 Dozens Routine please?
Just for the record, no artificial aids were used in the "Mating" process!
I thank U.
Well, it can be so. It is always a problem to name something new, and since I was not being very serious with marginale-like progression, I named it "Pregnant System" ;) Since English is not my natural language, it does not sound so weird. It would sound weird in my natural language, of course. But "Pregnant System" sounds just cool 8)
3 dozens routine sounds too general to me, there might be many. Well, who cares, let's call it 3 dozens routine or whatever.
oh man....don't trust the fun mode....
Don't account those results. Fun mode is for luring u. And Martingale works just magics in Fun mode. Real money results are different.
that's all i can say.
Quote from: iggiv on Jan 07, 07:40 PM 2011
Oh man....don't trust the fun mode....
Don't account those results. Fun mode is for luring u. And Martingale works just magics in Fun mode. Real money results are different.
that's all I can say.
100% Spot on :thumbsup:
I said as much earlier. And as Chris says he wont know the true outcome until its played for real. If it ever is. Hope so, would be good to see the results of "fun play" and "real play" compared :)
QuoteHope so, would be good to see the results of "fun play" and "real play" compared
Chris is the first person to ever use one of my tools, the tools intention is only to test systems/methods extensivley, so you can relax and watch rather than sit with a pen, paper and calculater ALL the systems I test are not playing roulette period, they are playing random number generators and the roulette table is just a convenient platform for these tests, so when someone states RNG is not roulette I refrain from replying as I know this already.
I've said it many times in the past, RXTreme testing fails at the same rate any RNG roulette platform fails, I started my tests many moons back in RXTreme when I started out and decided to create a bot type tool to get realtime test results as opposed to using rx.
I also test, if it works in fun mode, in real money mode without placing bets, all calcs are done in the normal manner by the tool, just it doesn't place chips, just spins and gets the result. Twister, we should eventually get to real money mode if it looks promising enough.
Quote from: superman on Jan 08, 06:52 AM 2011
Twister, we should eventually get to real money mode if it looks promising enough.
Cool :thumbsup:
I look forward to that !
Hope all goes well for you guys :)
QuoteMartingale will NEVER WORK on playtech real mode RNG
Yeah you keep saying, obviousley this thread isn't for you then!!
I/we understand ALL the pitfalls of RNG, Playtech and gambling in general, you don't need to keep remindind us/me, everyones input is welcome could we please keep the doomsday posts to ourselves? not too much to ask is it?
Quote from: superman on Jan 08, 12:02 PM 2011
Yeah you keep saying, obviousley this thread isn't for you then!!
I/we understand ALL the pitfalls of RNG, Playtech and gambling in general, you don't need to keep remindind us/me, everyones input is welcome could we please keep the doomsday posts to ourselves? not too much to ask is it?
Hey Chris. Remember, you have the big club in this thread.
Any post that you don't think contributes anything new or constructive can be whacked just to keep the topic on track and make staying abreast of what's happening without having to wade through stuff you don't think helps.
Just a reminder.
George
Latest test.- Failed.
Bot stopped at Progression Level 23 (6069), since would have gone over table limits.
Playing with 0.10 units.
Start BR= $5000 Highest Point $5443.74
End BR= $4764.64
Profit/Loss= $-679.10
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Quote from: chrisbis on Jan 09, 12:47 PM 2011
Latest test.- Failed.
Bot stopped at Progression Level 23 (6069), since would have gone over table limits.
Playing with 0.10 units.
Start BR= $5000 Highest Point $5443.74
End BR= $4764.64
Profit/Loss= $-679.10
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now you can see who was right and constructive and who was just stubborn trying to shut some other people up. and this kind of fails is gonna happen many times more in reality. But not in playtech fun play.
congratulations, you avoided a great trouble and saved some money by not hurrying to play real.
what happened is just a small and modest example of what really COULD happen. People lost fortunes just like this. In high stake casinos a few times like this -- and a wealthy person can become homeless. And this HAS happen in history.
Quotenow you can see who was right and constructive and who was just stubborn trying to shut some other people up
There was no malice in my wanting you to refrain from telling us the facts, I know the facts, its impossible to beat roulette, especially rng, I agree with you iggiv, these facts I know and understand, we are running tests on the system posted by James???? where he states $4000 per day from his $1500 bot, were testing it to see how often it actually collapses, I am not being stubborn, if nobody tests it we will never know. In my opinion there is no need for bet selection on RNG no matter where you bet you will win/lose at the expected percentage, how you handle recovery of losses is key, and we are still all looking.
As ChrisB stated we have hit level 24 of the progression twice now, me last night, ChrisB this morning, in the past week it has not gone over 25 levels of the progression, I have seen level 24 3 times in total, Chris saw it once and $hat himself watching the units dissappear, all that profit gone, the usual senario.
So taking that into consideration, if the average daily take is around 10,000 units of 0.10 and lets guess that going to level 30 in the progression may happen 1 time every 2 weeks, its possible that James does make that amount of money but he's keeping quiet about his losses, there MUST be losses.
iggiv, lets call a truce buddy, it's pointless to be pi$$ed off with each other, we are all after the same thing eventually.
When I lost like that I had nobody who would have told me all this. And now when I tried to tell this to people which are exactly in the same position I was -- I get cut off by some intelligent experimenters. That's NOT what pisses me off. Not the fact that you tried to tell me that this thread is not for me. If I was telling anecdotes here and you told me "This thread is not for you" -- who cares. But this was EXACTLY the thread where I had to say exactly what I said.
and people which in the first place had to say what I said (instead of doing and encouraging pointless experiments) -- these people tried to say "this thread is not for you, Chris just remove him from your thread". This is a real shame.
I don't give a darn actually if I am looking an i.d.i.o.t here, I am not here for a beauty contest. But if someone is encouraged by this forum doing obviously DANGEROUS things -- instead of preventing those things, that's what I don't like. Because this forum was just created by Vic to stop those who play Martingale just like this. And it turned out now to be just an opposite instead. With your kind help, guys.
Quoteyou try to experiment and see how soon it can lose
So by that you mean ALL systems on this forum that people are playing, we know they eventually fail but yet everyone is testing them, what's the point of the forum then?
If we were only to discuss winning systems, there wouldn't be much of a forum.
Quotewatch with clever face and say "Yes I know it is not gonna win I was trying to experiment"
Get real fella, this is the same that happens to ALL systems, they get tested to failure and reported as such, what have we done different that upset you?
Of course I may be totally wrong about your intention but I fail to spot the difference to that that happens with ALL systems.
Guys, a couple of questions...
1) why do you test in a table without proper limits 0.01 - 1,000 as he recommends?
2) if it has a 30 step martingale why stop at step 23 or 24?
3)what if you program the bot to wait for 10 miss in each dozen before start playing and just
set the progression for a 20 step?
it will be slower, but i assure safer.. no?
4) he cant make 4k a day in 1 casino, he would get banned, we all know...maybe he has 40 accounts in diff casinos and makes 100 bucks on each one daily
5) maybe less, i mean.. who wants to make 4k a day? who has to make it?
6) maybe he has a internet central (i dont know much about this sorry for my ignorance) and he set 10 pcs/laptops in his house with with 10 diff casino accounts and he puts 10 bots to work at the same time, makes 50 or 100 bucks a day, and easily make1 k per day..
7) or maybe 4k, who cares! the point is to make it consistently and not be noticed..
think for one moment!! maybe he does not make that much, maybe he does.. the thing is, is he profiting every day? consistently?
the less time you spend on that thing the best, and you dont need a coded bot for that, any roulette bot around does the work no?
just trying to help here..
jose
ps: why not make 100 a day on 3 diff casino accounts? 300 a day x 30 = 9k a month not enough??
Bud, there are better and worse methods to play. and there are WORST. There are relatively safe and totally unsafe methods. There are methods which fail in a long run, but they don't harm you too much. For example look at Katilla's recent methods. Have you seen him playing crazy progressions with 4000 units? No, he tries flatbet. Can you win like that? I don't know. But one thins is for sure, if you lose 200-300 units, you are still safe.
but for God's sake promote a bot for playing 4000 units progression???? If I was mod in this forum I would not let this topic to go unchecked like that. WE ALL MUST KNOW THIS IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.
Imagine some people betting 5-10 dollars unit on big stake casino? They do exist.
For God's sake you could not see that this James whoever he is is here to make i.d.i.o.t.s of some people which have no idea what he is doing? Only me and Albahala noted this.
No Mods, no other intelligent people.
I am really surprised here.
Quote from: iggiv on Jan 09, 02:57 PM 2011
Bud how long have u been into roulette? Did u start playing it just after a new year? Or maybe u r here for some kind of fun?
anyway. read my postings or post some anecdotes instead.
Carefully iggiv. U sound U're bordering on badger bating and being rude rite now.
I have let U post freely, un-altered and uncensored all through this Topic.
Please check Ur INTENTION before asking questions U may regret, or wish to modify and will not have the time to do so, because the Forum TIME TO ALTER/MODIFY with have lapsed.
Iggiv. I am in the next post going to flag up a huge warning sign, for all readers of this Topic, just to show that both superman, and I chrisbis ..
DO CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO ANY AND ALL PLAYERS/MEMBERS/FELLOWS/GUESTS reading these postings.
Warning to follow.
@yrt00
Quotewhy do you test in a table without proper limits 0.01 - 1,000 as he recommends?
Find Us one or two then please.
When finding one, check the table limit for the Dozens/Columns, not the Inside upper limit or, RED/BLACK outside limit- it has to be specifically for Dozen even chances.
Quote2) if it has a 30 step martingale why stop at step 23 or 24?
Because they are our TESTS not absolutes. Just testing. Testing. Testing.
Quote3)what if you program the bot to wait for 10 miss in each dozen before start playing and just
set the progression for a 20 step?
Quite possible. Y not test that yourself and report back here. Its open house here for anyone to get involved, after-all, its just testing out some ideas, not set in stone eh superman?
Quote4, 5, 6, 7,
I like the fact Ur asking all the right questions, after all, James came to Us at this Forum, Not the other way round. I wish James would come and join the debate- an orderly debate tho eh iggiv?
Quote from: Twisteruk on Jan 09, 03:29 PM 2011
Thank you Chris :)
I never knew my pregnancy would produce so much feedback.
I will announce soon the date of the baby shower, so U can all join in and send me some lovely virtual baby things.
Esoito will be thrilled.
And iggiv thinks I'm too serious sometimes- here should live in
this head of mine I tell U, its so full of new ideas, new "Routines", new twists on original themes, and attempting to put a different slant on what has gone before.
We are all singing off the same page iggiv love, darling (BTW love the avatar, tho I think maybe U try flossing between posts.), so I know Ur passion is heart felt.
But U must take note, that a no time, have myself or superman ,....
EVER had the intention of misleading anyone.
There can be only one result here, JUST ONE.
An idea has been tested to death. And that's it.
No recommends, No bot for sale, No "Routine" that everyone MUST go and play- just the front to back, side to side and arse about face destruction of a post that SOMEONE ELSE, introduced to forum.
Iggiv, there is one correction that I would like to see U make here in Topic.
U said this:-
QuoteFor God's sake you could not see that this James whoever he is is here to make i.d.i.o.t.s of some people which have no idea what he is doing? Only me and Albahala noted this.
No Mods, no other intelligent people.
This is factually incorrect.
I would like a retraction please- new post from Urself, explaining, that after carefully reading ALL the relevant posts, U were incorrect in stating that ONLY U AND ALBAHALA, were flagging up suspicions around James's 1ST and subsequent posts.
Thanx iggiv buddie, if U will do that. Love U man,
@chrisbis
Mate -- you're the moderator of your own thread.
You can delete any post you feel is irrelevant to the T E S T S you are running.
I stress TESTS because it's obvious some of the posters seem to have either ignored that or didn't understand it in the first place!
So, for those having difficulty in understanding the purpose of this thread let me summarise:
You are TESTING.
You are not using real money
You are perfectly aware of the dangers of martingales.
You are testing to see where the method 'breaks'
You are testing to examine worst case scenarios
You are not making any recommendations to newbies or others
You are not encouraging newbies or others to lose their money on dangerous progressions
YOU. ARE. ONLY. TESTING....
Now -- start moderating ;)
[But please leave this post here as a Global Moderator's clarification.]
Esoito,
how do you like this phrase though
"we should eventually get to real money mode if it looks promising enough."
was it about a pure testing only for the experiment "how soon it is gonna break", or was that intention and believe that it may still work all right in real life? Let's be honest. The whole idea was taken very seriously from the beginning.
And remember: this stuff may work for quite some time. In real life too. But especially in the playtech fun mode. and I will tell you something more, bud. It MUST work in Playtech fun mode just fine. Fun mode is programmed just for this. I learned this the HARD WAY. And you know what? If this 3 dozen system becomes popular, and playtech programmers will find out, don't hold your breath if they will include it in their fun mode programming to make sure it DOES WORK.
@ALL READERS OF THIS 3 DOZENS "ROUTINE" TESTING IDEA.
Please be advised:_
Quote
we should eventually get to real money mode if it looks promising enough."
This quote Is alluding to the next logical phase in ANY test, in which U test an idea, a system, a "Routine" (if u will) .....against real money, by...........
...................................................SIMULATION, OF REAL MONEY...............................................
That is, for those Guests who may not recognise that description, the bot (Robot) is given an imaginary BankRoll, and places virtual bets in an on-line Casino, that has free spin facility.
No REAL MONEY is placed as a bet.
Its Common Practice.
Its Standard Testing Procedure.
Its Ultra Safe.
It Gives "Real" Results.
U get better Data.
Its real RNG spins, not "Light" spins as U get in Fun/Demo/Play mode RNG.
That is what is meant by, "getting to real money mode!"
But please, LADIES, GENTLEMEN, CHILDREN (..........U should be in bed now!!)
here's the disclaimer..........dated 10/01/2011
..........there is no, non, nanna, newt, zero, zilch suggestion, that real money is used on this idea, whilst testing, development, design, twisting, varying, changing, dissecting, destroying or any other physical, electronic, literary alteration is/has occurred to the premise of the idea.
Got that everyone?
All white at the back?
Lets test.........................now then, where's me flask?
We have been testing all day today, and the honest result
is that the 3Dozen progression, is that the bet may not work
in the way was originally described by James.
By that I mean, James mentioned in his first (link:://rouletteforum.cc/testing-zone/a-promising-system/msg29002/#msg29002) post on the subject, no apparent risk to his huge bankroll requirement for the progression.
He never says whether on occasions that the Bank Roll could get wiped out in one session
if either the 30 levels of progression are breached, or the table limits needed up around the higher levels of progression are "holed" too.
In the tests conducted so far, level 23/24 out of possible 30 have already been extinguished
Enjoy - those who are viewing.
0.10 chip value units played.
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----- Forwarded Message ----
From: chrisbis36@yahoo.com
To: -superman
Sent: Tue, 11 January, 2011 20:21:42
Subject: Good steady result- original 3Dozen Tool
Just completed an all day test on the original 3 dozen tool.
Start BR $5977.94
End BR $6178.10
Profit $ 200.16
Chips placed- 0.01cents
Highest Progression (level) 4046 (22 old levels)
Time start 9.30 am,
End time 18.35 pm
Duration 9Hrs 05mins (9.08333hours)
Rate1- $0367/Minute
Rate2- $22.035/Hour
I'd take this result superman. Better than previous.
Wonder if New idea on Fibonacci progression as per Fripper/Belgian(from Roulette30) could be introduced into this "Routine".
What thinks U.
Does this version of the bot have to original 30 levels,
or is it too revised down now to 29?
Cheers mate.
(more testing- I will set up for all day testing on the new version- 'River' to provide duration test again.
Lets hope it does as well eh?
Just to update forum.
There are now 4 versions of the bot in/under construction/development.
3 Dozen (Original). .................... bot puts bet on all 3 dozens with progression upto 30 levels
3 Dozen (Wave)..........................bot puts bet on..........(under design development)..................
Dozen/Column.............................bot puts bet on..........(under design development)..................
Ripple Function............................bot puts bet on..........(under design development)..................
This is certainly an interesting ride!
I do look forward to reading the updates.
All credit to you, Chris, and your kind and diligent programmer, Superman (aptly named ;) who volunteered to help with this project) and your attention to details.
I fully endorse the comment earlier, along the lines of "if we don't test we'll never know"
Out of little acorns...
Three session results to post up.
Test Result 1.
Testing 3DozenWave
Test date 11/12-01-2011
Start Time 01.47 Hrs
End Time 05.16 Hrs
Duration = 3 Hrs 29 Minutes
Decimal Duration- 3.483333 Hours
Start BR _ $6263.10
End BR _ $6334.94
Profit = 71.84
Chips used = 0.01 cents
Rate2 = 71.84/304888 = $20.623/Hour return.
Highest progression was 9103. (occurred twice)
Test Result 2.
Testing DozColWave
Test date 12-01-2011
Start Time 08.40 Hrs
End Time 12.00 Hrs
Duration = 3 Hrs 20 Minutes
Decimal Duration- 3.33333 Hours
Start BR _ $6334.94
End BR _ $6373.37
Profit _ $ 38.43
Chips used = 0.01 cents
Rate2 = $11.52/Hour return.
Highest progression was 2697. (occurred on Dozens)
Test Result 3.
Testing Ripple
Test date 12-01-2011
Start Time 12.43 Hrs
End Time 17.17 Hrs
Duration = 4 Hrs 34 Minutes
Decimal Duration- 4.56666 Hours
Start BR _ $6373.37
End BR _ $6411.72
Profit _ $ 38.35
Chips used = 0.01 cents
Rate2 = $8.3978/Hour return.
Highest progression was 4046. (On Dozens)
Quote from: chrisbis on Jan 09, 03:15 PM 2011
@yrt00
Find Us one or two then please.
When finding one, check the table limit for the Dozens/Columns, not the Inside upper limit or, RED/BLACK outside limit- it has to be specifically for Dozen even chances.
Because they are our TESTS not absolutes. Just testing. Testing. Testing.
Quite possible. why not test that yourself and report back here. Its open house here for anyone to get involved, after-all, its just testing out some ideas, not set in stone eh superman?
I like the fact your asking all the right questions, after all, James came to Us at this Forum, Not the other way round. I wish James would come and join the debate- an orderly debate tho eh iggiv?
Thanks Chris,
As soon as I find a table with those limits will report back.
If I had a bot I would be glad to test and report back also, can you point me one I can use?
I was testing on dublin just to see how it did, for a few spins ans highest progression was step 11 with 47 units, so I started playing on low limit table and as soon I hit the limit went to high limit table, with 5 units on each dozen it made about 300+ units (this just for testing as I had never seeing this way of playing)
Another thing! I usually play on Victor Chandler Casino, well thing is, they have an auto roulette, airball (slingshot) it has a pretty nice limit on even chances, 0.20 - 20.000 , for dozens its different of course , lower..
anyways I was about to do a little test over there, and suddenly... they don't let to bet the 3 dozens together, they don't let betting black/red together, low/high together, or odd/even together, they don't let play 3 columns together....
this is kinda good news! it means it is a threat to the tables! to the casino! not all the casinos restrict this bet.. anyways I am attaching a screenshot so you can see the message..
am very glad to see the reports on this way of play..if I can be of help just let me know, in the mean time I will try to hunt low/high - limit tables casinos for the dozens
regards,
Jose
Chris,
At the risk of being obvious, you can always bet differentially on betting all three dozens or columns, that way the casinos won't be able to spot that you're really betting all three. This also robs the green goblin of some of his power.
It may be a little difficult to calculate in time to place bets, but with a bot it shouldn't be difficult at all.
If this is of not help, please delete.
George
Quote from: GLC on Jan 12, 11:24 PM 2011
Chris,
At the risk of being obvious,[attachimg=#1] you can always bet differentially[attachimg=#2] on betting all three dozens or columns, that way the casinos won't be able to spot that you're really betting all three. This also robs the green goblin of some of his power.[attachimg=#4]
It may be a little difficult to calculate in time to place bets, but with a bot it shouldn't be difficult at all.
If this is of not help, please delete.[attachimg=#3]
George
Say all this again George- I'm intrigued?
(wild enough for U George?)
Test Results.
Testing DozColWave
This is a 1 hour test result, with the foot firmly pressed down on the accelerator.
U'll see what I mean in a moment.
Start BR $6411.67
End BR $7005.17
Profit/Loss $ 593.50
Start Time 07.13 am..................13/01/2010
End Time 08.13 am
Duration 01.00 hour
Rate2 $593.50/Hour
Chips played 0.50cents
Highest progression 799 (on Column) (Occurred once)
I think the test result says it all.
Not forgetting, its Fun Money Demo Mode. No Real Casino was harmed in the making of this Test.
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Test Results
Testing 3 DozWave
Working day full 9 hour test.
Start BR $7005.17
End BR $7207.07
Profit/Loss $ 201.90
Start Time 08.50am ................13/01/11
End Time 18.10pm
Duration 9.20minutes
Duration Decimal 9.333Hours
Rate2 - $21.632/Hour
Chips played - 0.01cents
Highest Progression - 4046
Good result for long duration of play.
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Nice workk ! :thumbsup:
I think you're asking me to expand on what I mean about betting differentially and how it would trick the casinos.
Let's say I want to bet 2 units on the 1st dozen, 3 units on the 2nd dozen and 13 units on the 3rd dozen.
If the 1st dozen hits, I win 4 units less 3+13 = -12.
If I subtract the 2 units bet on the 1st dozen from the amounts bet on all dozens I get the following: 2 units on doz 1 - 2 units = 0 so no bet on dozen 1. 3 units on doz 2 -2 units = 1 unit bet on 2nd dozen. 13 units on 3rd doz - 2 units = 11 units bet on 3rd doz.
The payoff is the same but you're always betting on only 2 dozens from the casino's viewpoint which is a common bet and allowed by all casinos.
I just realized that my example would only be possible if a zero had just hit. Otherwise 1 unit would always be bet on 1 of the dozens.
This doesn't really save but 3 or 6 units when a zero hits, but it does allow us to bet on only 2 dozens. I know that 3 or 6 units doesn't sound like that much when you're betting over a thousand units on a dozen.
On the other hand, you could just skip the 1 unit bet on a dozen and always start at 2. That'll trick them
QuoteLet's say I want to bet 2 units on the 1st dozen, 3 units on the 2nd dozen and 13 units on the 3rd dozen.
But here U say to bet on all Three George? Don't get that.
Also, to get to a position where one was betting
(Let's say I want to bet 2 units on the 1st dozen, 3 units on the 2nd dozen and 13 units on the 3rd dozen.) the route there MUST have meant U have progressed them in the first place.
It sure would be great, but can't really have my cake and eat it too !!
Love U man. x :-*
Well, if we want to bet on dozens (d1,d2,d3) units (2,3,13), the results would be same as (2-2,3-2,13-2)=(0,1,11). We play the system AS IF we were progressing all three dozens, but in reality we bet only two dozens. That is a common sense, this way we avoid some loses caused by zero.
if x hits: profit
d1 : (2,3,13) -> 2*2-3-13 = -12
(0,1,11) -> 0*2-1-11 = -12
d2 : (2,3,13) -> -2+3*2-13 = -9
(0,1,11) -> -0 +1*2-11 = -9
d3: (2,3,13) -> -2-3+2*13 = 21
(0,1,11) -> -0-1+2*11 = 21
0/00:
(2,3,13) -> -2-3-13 = -18
(0,1,11) -> -0 -1 -11 = -12
So any "three dozens" system is actually two dozens system. If you want more, play that system on dozens and columns simultaneously. Anyway that is dangerous, but you spare some time because you play twice as fast.
BTW If I were a casino owner, I would gladly allow my players to bet on all three dozens, or ECs at the same time, all 37 or 36 numbers, all six lines and anything. I would even encourage them to do so ;)
Thanks Mr. Ore :thumbsup:
Test Results
Testing 3DozWave Tool
Start BR $7207.07
End BR $7341.57
Profit/Loss $ 134.50
Start Time 23.28 pm.........13/01/11
End Time 00.08.............................server had timed out, so game stopped.
Duration 40 minutes
Decimal Duration .66666 hours
Rate2 $201.75/hour
Chips placed 0.10cents
Highest Progression 4046
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Chris,
I just bought RouletteBot Pro to test and other purposes, and i set the system as James outlined at first, am testing and its doing fine but i cant get past the warning message from the casino that says am luck and suggests to play for real money.. i disabled warning messages on the options box but still its popping out, therefore stopping the bot from playing...
did you find a way to avoid that? because i want to be able to leave the bot for hours like you.. thanks mate
if you have any suggestions they are welcome..
Quotedid you find a way to avoid that? because I want to be able to leave the bot for hours like you
Sadly you can't avoid or disable that damn thing, so I told the bot to close it when it appears, don't think rbp can do that for you as its not part of the game window and on each playtech casino the box is A a different size and B the close X is in a different location
thanks Superman,
I guess for testing could be that i open a real money account deposit the minimum and put the bot to spin and play virtually..hopefully they dont mind about spinning so much without placing a bet, thanks anyways mate!
jose
U just can't disable this stuff. This stuff is supposed to annoy and push you to play in real mode and lose. It is psychological. When you get repeated message you are lucky, you may start thinking you are really are. It is like annoying commerical on TV. Nobody likes them but they get to you, and you REMEMBER which product they advertise. And next time you wanna buy something of a kind-- this product comes to your mind (and doesn't matter that much that the commercial was annoying -- you remember about this product anyway, and you are not gonna reject it because of the commercial).
So u remember this message "I am lucky" in your head. And when casinos start calling u -- and they do call u to ask if u r gonna play, when u did not for some time, -- this has the same effect.
They tell u next time u may get lucky, and u get this message about being lucky.
of course it does not work with strong will power people, but not everybody has strong will power.
Quote from: yrt00 on Jan 14, 03:03 AM 2011
Chris,
I just bought RouletteBot Pro to test and other purposes, and i set the system as James outlined at first, am testing and its doing fine but i cant get past the warning message from the casino that says am luck and suggests to play for real money.. i disabled warning messages on the options box but still its popping out, therefore stopping the bot from playing...
did you find a way to avoid that? because i want to be able to leave the bot for hours like you.. thanks mate
if you have any suggestions they are welcome..
I see superman has answered Ur question buddie.
Need to play for real, but virtual, which Roulette Bot Pro will only do in the test mode.
Our next step- just to keep U and the rest of Forum in the loop- is a Bot set up for Real Money RNG account, and then play virtually, using real money spin results.
Hopefully this 'Simulated' bot will be again tested to destruction/death next week by myself and superman, on all three variants- 3Dozens, 3DozenWave, DolColWave.
I'll be setting Up new Topic for the new 'Simulated' bot results, so as to isolate the tests from these Fun/Play/Demo performances.
(Prerequisite warnings on the content of the new Topic will be included.)
When there is no real money bet, all is gonna be just fine, because the software REACTS to your bets. it is like trying to run faster than your own shadow
that was a very good thread (and posting), just in case people forgot because of excitement
link:://rouletteforum.cc/online-gaming/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/online-gaming/)*documented*-proof-of-cheating-rng-software/msg14938/#msg14938
copy the link into browser window
Hey Guys,
A little small session playing with fun money, I will start doing tests with real money account on test mode virtual play, to see what results it throws...this session was interrupted by warning message that I can't avoid on fun mode, will now try in real money mode for longer periods.. enjoy
jose
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start balance : 2189.17
end balance : 2670.67
chips used : 0.50 cents
win/loss : +481.50
time of play: 1 hr aprox (screenshot of bot time play is longer because i left it running and took screenshot much later)
hope this helps..
Guys, just open money account at casino.com , they don't have same table limits as in fun mode, in real mode its 1-1,000 for columns and dozens..anyways, I will test with real account now to see how it goes in virtual play, will post after a session.
i will aim 500 units profit, with $0.01 cents as a basic unit chip, and will set a BR of $3110.73, as this would correspond to the basic $0.01 cents unit bet per dozen and 30 step progression..
will come back..
Quote from: yrt00 on Jan 15, 12:34 AM 2011
Guys, just open money account at casino.com , they don't have same table limits as in fun mode, in real mode its 1-1,000 for columns and dozens..anyways, I will test with real account now to see how it goes in virtual play, will post after a session.
i will aim 500 units profit, with $0.01 cents as a basic unit chip, and will set a BR of $3110.73, as this would correspond to the basic $0.01 cents unit bet per dozen and 30 step progression..
will come back..
Yes, we thought the upper limit would be available, think someone else mentioned it before.
Still means for the bot though, that the last level on the progression can not technically be played- ever, so we were concerned as to Y it was put there in the first place- is this the red herring I wonder from the originator?
So
yrt00, drop the last level on the progression.
For Ur info, we have also dropped the second 1, right at the begining of the progression, it has no value, except at the start, but even then, its a repeat of Ur first line, just to give U a start point to bet from, but in truth, it not needed.
Later in the play, if Use the 1,1,2,3 progression, the second one(1), will allow the highest progression to move away from U, and extend the values higher than they need to be, plus at the same time, it 'Retards' the Bank Roll pay back, thus putting the Bank Roll under greater and needless pressure.
So think on before U play, and modify the progressions levels a little.
Good testing mate. :thumbsup:
Look forward to results posting. :smile:
Thanks Chris!
Currently 1 hr 47 minutes with 68+ profit, will stop session and adjust the progression, also will try out with 0.10 cents basic unit..
Here is some info on this session, will then post another one with improved progression..
cheers
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profit : +70
chips : 0.01 cents
time play : 1 hr 51 minutes
Nice.
What have U set the bot to play on?
Setting list please.
(Everything, U know I'm a stickler for the details!) :-*
lol, here you go, but now i will adjust progression and other stuff, this is how i saved the settings for the previous session..
cheers
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U have not put the casino chip values in the settings?
Also, U know that this bot, is only going to bet (Suggest) on one Dozen?
So how are U using it in relation to 3 Dozen testing?
Good question mate, in the Settings tab, you have to adjust total bets allowed, since the dozens are 3, we put 3... then under the condition listed in the Systems tab we will use S (sleepers), right on the dozens option on low we put 0, this means it will wait for 0 time to bet the 3 previously configured bets on the Settings tab, putting a 0 on that option will allow to always bet the 3 dozens right away without waitting, just what we need for this.. some screenshots, this is all very well explained on the sellers page with his videos! ;D
The unit values are added when configuring any Playtech Casino, here a link to the sellers video explaining
Roulette Bot Pro 2 - Playtech Configuration (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=XcYbFRz11o4&feature=player_detailpage#ws)
here the link to the other settings videos..
link:://:.roulettebotpro.com/setup.html (link:://:.roulettebotpro.com/setup.html)
...
4.30 am here, gotta crash now, will leave the bot doing the work, cheers...
The unit value cant be shown unless i bring on the profile configuration, but the bot is running right now, so i dont want to interrupt the session, will get back on this later, however the video explains it pretty well :P
regards
ps> in this screenshot there you can see the casino.com european wheel config
What video mate?
Found it. :thumbsup:
What's Ur real name yrt?
;D
Quote from: chrisbis on Jan 15, 03:54 AM 2011
What video mate?
Found it. :thumbsup:
What's your real name yrt?
Jose Miguel
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That largest draw down- what level did it go too? ( bet value and unit chip will do !)
Cheers.
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Chip value: 0,01€
Deepest progression level: 30
Yep, that's one big draw down!!
At least it recovered.................!!
Quote from: chrisbis on Jan 16, 05:36 AM 2011
Yep, that's one big draw down!!
At least it recovered.................!!
Question is if I would recover when I would see that in real mode! :)
This will lose. I have tested it one year ago..
BuT. There was a system... bet all 3doz or/and colums. Seperate progression on all of them using Lanky 6 POINT DIVISOR with target 12 i think. This was performing incredibly well but it had one issue. Zero was killing it in long run...
But... try it on BV.
Will have a look.
Superman! Where are U?
See!!!!!!
Quote from: ophis on Jan 18, 03:54 AM 2011
Lanky 6 POINT DIVISOR
Is this a software?
This is progression. It can go over 100 steps without hiting table limits and get you in profit.
Search old vls forum.
Thank you! I did: link:://rouletteforum.cc/money-management/lanky's-6-point-divisor-plan/msg199/#msg199 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/money-management/lanky's-6-point-divisor-plan/msg199/#msg199)
Whats the latest update Chris ?
Been shelved for the time being, since real play starts at 0.10chip value.
So other testing is taking place on new ideas.
I will post soon.
I think the originator James, may have been telling less than full disclosure! :-\
EDIT
Progression kills this bet system/routine!!
But U all knew that ................right! ???
Quote from: chrisbis on Jan 26, 11:22 AM 2011
Been shelved for the time being, since real play starts at 0.10chip value.
So other testing is taking place on new ideas.
I will post soon.
I think the originator James, may have been telling less than full disclosure! :-\
EDIT
Progression kills this bet system/routine!!
But you all knew that ................right! ???
Look forward to your updates on your new ideas :thumbsup:
Update. Stardate Sunday, 06 March 2011
..............News..............
The bots head is now engaged.
A healthy baby Bot. (we have had the scans confirmed)
As a little Forum special, we are taking guesses at to what the Bots 'weight' will be.
My guess is:- 1.77MB
Bots name is to be...................E-Manual. (This might change, U know what its like choosing a name!)
Motherboard and Mothership are both said to be delighted at the progress.
Bot is now undergoing IT testing and corded(coded) 'feeding'.
1ST Public appearance due sometime in April.
I'll keep U posted.
I just wanted to take this opportunity, to thank all the supporters and contributors to this wonderful experience.
Unfortunately, I will not be there at the 'birth', but will get to see the code, and I bet it looks beautiful.
For the moment, whilst we rest and recover after this arduous journey, I ask all flowers, gifts, and 'BotShower' items/value are donated to our favourite Cause.........RouletteForum.cc
I'm so looking forward to getting to play with E-Manual,
and taking him on many a Special Voyager.
Thank U.
A special thank U, to Member jamesshoffner22162, for the initial consultation it the artifical inception.