Groups:
12 numbers/3 groups , Wheel based groups (WBG)
A. 32,15,19,4/36,11,30,8/14,31,9,22
B. 21,2,25,17/23,10,5,24/ 18,29,7,28
C. 34,6,27,13/16,33,1,20/12,35,3,26
This groups tend to go in groups like AABBBACCBBBAACCBCCC
most of the time , but not allways.
Triggers:
Flat bet 1A and 1B.
Progression 2A and 2B.
1A.
No wait , when appear B, bet B, if loss because appear C,
next bet on C, loss again because appear A, next bet on A.......
Flat bet only (1,1,1), and after a loss of the 1,1,1 wait some spins(5-6 spins),
because the bad run maybe is not over yet.
Ex: B....bet now, ...CBC(we loss 1,1,1) we wait because for sure
sometimes will stay on the bad run , so AB...CBC...ABCBAC.
Can start flat bet with 0,10 ( or 0,20) per number ,too.
2A.
Wait groups without repeats in the last 7-8 spins,
Ex: BCABCBCA... bet now with progression.
Progresion, start from 0,10 cents :
1. 0,10 x 12 -1,2 +2,4
2. 0,10 x 12 -2,4 +1,2
3. 0,20 x 12 -4,8 +2,4
4. 0,30 x 12 - 8,4 +2,4
5. 0,40 x 12 -13,2 +1,2
6. 0,60 x 12 -20,4 +1,2
7. 1 x 12 -32,4 +3,6
8. 1,40 x 12 -49,2 +1,2 stop-loss at -50
9. 2,20 x12 - 75,6 +3,6 stop-loss at -75
1B.
Bet the second group , flat bet 1,1,1
No wait necesary after this loss ( 1,1,1)
Can start flat bet with 0,10 ( or 0,20) per number ,too.
Ex.
A
B bet A
C L1, bet B
A L2, bet C
C win
or, other example when groups repeat
B
C bet B
C L1, now bet again B
C L2, bet again B
A L3 , stop
A bet C
C win, bet A
B L1,bet C
C win, bet B ..etc....
2B.
Wait groups where A, B or C have no repeat on the second spin.
Ex.. groups like ABBCABCAA, so the A or B or C not repeat on the second spin.
Wait 7-8 spins , than bet to catch the second (like above 1B.) , but with
the progression ( the 8-9 steeps).
Good luck.
how are you doing with this?
You see there are four different ways to play, 1A and 1B are ( no wait) and flat bet,
and 2A and 2B are wait triggers and bet with progression.
Try it for separate, i am still testing .
I will post some examples how i play .
Interesting thinking.someway similar to my master method. It is a better approach than playing dozens/columns.
Test ( 1A, flat bet) bet the last to repeat
live wheel spins
31 A , bet A
27 C, L1, bet C -12
8 A, L2, bet A -24
4 A, Win, bet A 0
15 A, win , bet A +24
6 C, L1, bet C +12
17 B, L2, bet B 0
23 B, win, bet B +24
17 B, win , bet... +48
36 A, L1, bet... +36
14 A, win +60
12 C, L1 +48
36 A, L2 +36
16 C, L3 +24 wait some spins after 3 Ls
28 B
25 B
33 C
11 A bet A
32 A win +48
14 A win +72
14 A win bet A +96
15 A win + 120
24 B l1 +108
29 B win +132
26 C L1 +120
21 B L2 +108
21 B win + 132
18 B win + 156
20 C L1 + 144
2 B L2 + 132
19 A L3 wait +120
11 A
25 B
29 B bet B
17 B win +144
9 A, L1 + 132
9 A , win + 156
11 A, win +180
35 C, L1 +168
20 C, win +192
23 B, L1 + 180
20 C, L2 +168
33 C, win +192
22 A, L1 +180
19 A, win +204
23 B, L1 +192
2 B, win +216
14 A, L1 +204
32 A, win +228
5 B,win +252
28 B, win +276
29 B,win +300
3 C, L1 +288
5 B, L2 +276
21 B, win +300
34 C, L1 +288
27 C, win +312
5 B, L1 +300
22 A, L2 +288
10 B, L3 stop wait
6 C
17 B
26 C bet C
13 C, win +312
23 B, L1 +300
31 A, L2 +288
30 A, win +312 stop
+312 in aprox. 72 spins
remember stop 3-5 spins after a triple loss 1, 1, 1
Test 2 ( 1A flat bet the last to repeat)
I will keep testing when I have the time, until now looks good.
I am not sure it is a winner flat betting, but with progression
after some virtual L s , I think could be a winner.
Any tweaks are welcome guys, this groups A, B, C are the best
i ever find until now.
When start the game better wait some virtual Ls (Ex: ABCBCA...)
12 C
28 B
34 C
36 A
18 B
32 A
10 B, bet B
21 B , win +24
1 C, L1 +12
9 A, L2 0
7 B, L3 -12 wait
12 C
7 B
14 A
23 B bet B
8 A , L1 -24
36 A,win 0
26 C, L1 -12
12 C, win +12
33 C, win +36
19 A, L1 +24
0 L2 +12 After 0 wait
15 A
20 C
25 B bet B
29 B win +36
21 B win +60
22 A, L1 +48
1 C, L2 +36
15 A, L3 +24 wait
0
26 C
11 A
15 A bet A
31 A, win +48
9 A, win +72
33 C, L1 +60
11 A, L2 +48
23 B, L3 +36 stop wait
13 C
18 B
27 C
15 A bet A
35 C , L1 +24
16 C, win +48
33 C, win +72
18 B, L1 +60
0 L2 +48 wait after 0
10 B
12 C
29 B
16 C bet C
30 A , L1 +36
18 B, L2 +24
13 C, L3 +12 stop wait
29 B
22 A
17 B bet now
7 B, win +48
15 A, L1 +36
15 A, win +60
16 C, L1 +48
2 B, L2 +36
2 B , win +60
22 A, L1 +48
14 A, win +72
35 C, L1 +60
32 A, L2 +48
26 C, L3 +36 wait
30 A
7 B
28 B
12 C bet C
0 L1 +24 wait
21 B
16 C
35 C bet C
33 C win +48
27 C win +72
27 C win +96
23 B L1 +84
18 B win +108
29 B win +132
3 C L1 +120
31 A L2 +108
10 B L3 +96
36 A
6 C
2 B bet B
17 B win +120
9 A L1 +108
10 B L2 +96
25 B win +120
10 B win +144
15 A L1 +132
2 B L2 +120
24 B win +144
29 B win +168
3 C L1 +156
20 C win +180
35 C win +204
18 B L1 +192
4 A L2 +180
16 C L3 +168 wait
30 A
22 A
34 C
14 A bet A
23 B L1 +156
26 C L2 +144
16 C win +168
6 C win +192
26 C win +216
29 B L1 +204
13 C L2 +192
0 L3 wait
34 A
11 A
25 B
19 A bet A
14 A win +216
12 C L1 +204
22 A L2 +192
22 A win +216
8 A win +240
14 A win +264
31 A win +288
3 C L1 +276
6 C win +300 stop
126 spins +300 win
Test 3 ( 1A flat bet the last to repeat)
4 A
27 C
24 B
11 A
16 C
20 C bet now
1 C win +24
32 A L1 +12
9 A win +36
4 A win +60
2 B L1 +48
18 B win +72
9 A L1 +60
7 B L2 +84
36 A L3 +72 wait
34 C
25 B
30 A
7 B bet now
7 B win +96
27 C L1 +84
5 B L2 +72
5 B win +96
23 B win +120
3 C L1 +108
21 B L2 +96
34 C L3 +84 wait
0
31 A
21 B
24 B
15 A bet now
14 A win +108
24 B L1 +96
32 A L2 +84
1 C L3 +72 wait
32 A
8 A
23 B
26 C bet now
30 A L1 +60
33 C L2 +48
16 C win +72
33 C win +96
0 L1 wait
16 C
24 B
14 A
17 B bet now
12 C L1 +84
7 B L2 +72
12 C L3 +60 wait
36 A
12 C
6 C
28 B bet now
34 C L1 +48
34 C win +72
16 C win +96 stop session ( i must to go)
60 spins +96
Test 4 ( 1A flat bet the last to repeat)
16 C
22 A
21 B
8 A
31 A
10 B
32 A bet now
21 B , L1 -12
18 B win +12
27 C, L1 0
30 A L2 -12
31 A win +12
10 B L1 0
27 C L2 -12
0 L3 -24 wait
25 B
29 B
22 A
26 C bet now
35 C win 0
30 A L1 -12
24 B L2 -24
11 A L3 -36 wait
21 B
14 A
1 C
16 C bet now
27 C win -12
35 C win +12
23 B L1 0
6 C L2 -12
16 C win +12
13 C win +36
11 A L1 +24
15 A win +48
20 C L1 +36
10 B L2 +24
23 B win +48
30 A L1 +36
27 C L2 +24
20 C win +48
28 B L1 +36
17 B win +60
7 B win +84
7 B win +108
24 B win +132
33 C L1 +120
7 B L2 +108
3 C L3 +96 wait
10 B
29 B
35 C
10 B bet now
4 A L1 +84
18 B L2 +72
8 A L3 +60 wait
8 A
23 B
3 C
31 A bet now
18 B L1 +48
17 B win +72
17 B win +96
3 C L1 +84
28 B L2 +72
26 C L3 +60 wait
21 B
4 A
28 B
31 A bet now
8 A win +84
4 A win +108
2 B L1 +96
31 A L2 +84
32 A win +108
18 B L1 +96
16 C L2 +84
18 B L3 +72 wait
13 C
28 B
21 B
14 A bet now
34 C L1 +60
26 C win +84
17 B L1 +72
16 C L2 +60
21 B L3 +48 wait
3 C
5 B
29 B
12 C bet now
23 B L1 +36
17 B win +60
12 C L1 +48
19 A L2 +36
9 A win +60
32 A win +84
23 B L1 +72
7 B win +96
24 B win +120 100 spins
4 A L1 +108
14 A win +132
24 B L1 +120
9 A L2 +108
4 A win +132
29 B L1 +120
8 A L2 +108
20 C L3 +96 wait
28 B
24 B
16 C
11 A bet now
1 C L1 +84
19 A L2 +72
31 A win +96
21 B L1 +84
0 L2 +72 wait
29 B
1 C
22 A
5 B bet now
9 A L1 +60
29 B L2 +48
15 A L3 +36 wait
22 A
13 C
8 A
21 B bet now
29 B win +60
18 B win +84
35 C L1 +72
34 C win +96
29 B L1 +84
0 L2 wait
6 C
24 B
26 C
32 A bet
1 C L1 +72
23 B L2 +60
8 A L3 +48 wait
10 B
20 C
33 C
15 A bet now
4 A win +72
20 C L1 +60
28 B L2 +48
5 B win +72
23 B win +96
20 C L1 +84
1 C win +108
16 C win +132
1 C win +156
13 C win +180
26 C win +204
1 C win +228 NICE !
5 B L1 +216
11 A L2 +204
32 A win +228
32 A win +252
23 B L1 +240
13 C L2 +228
1 C win +252
10 B win +240
10 B win +264
0 L1 wait
0
32 A
24 B
34 C
2 B bet now
1 C L1 +252
7 B L2 +240
7 B win +264
11 A L1 +252
21 B L2 +240
31 A L3 +228 wait
21 B
25 B
6 C bet now
26 C win +252
13 C win +276
25 B L1 +264
17 B win +288
31 A L1 +276
20 C L2 +264
16 C win +288
8 A L1 +276
9 A win +300 euros 190 spins
23 B L1 +288
9 A L2 +276
29 B L3 +264 wait
21 B
5 B
25 B
6 C bet now
21 C win +288
23 B L1 +276
1 C L2 +264
29 B L3 +252 201 spins
Results
at 100 spins + 120
at 190 spins +300
at 201 spins +252
Still up
Need some help to test this guys .
Thanks.
Test 1 + test 2 + test 3 + test 4 = aprox. 460 spins tested= +960 euros
Max. down was -36 or -48 .
I can t belive my self, please guys need some help to test this method,
maybe numbers from other casino give others results.
Test 5 ( 1A flat bet the last to repeat)
7 B
30 A
34 C
2 B
22 A bet A
34 C L1 -12
35 C win +12
22 B L1 0
34 C L2 -12
34 C win +12
5 B L1 0
10 B win +24
20 C L1 +12
29 B L2 0
1 C L3 -12 wait
17 B
16 C
35 C
10 B bet now
27 C L1 -24
6 C win 0
23 B L1 -12
10 B win +12
22 A L1 0
17 B L2 -12
11 A L3 -24 wait
34 C
20 C
24 B
4 A bet now
25 B L1 -36
28 B win -12
29 B win +12
17 B win +36
8 A L1 +24
5 B L2 +12
20 B win +36
1 C L1 +24
31 A L2 +12
35 C L3 0 wait
8 A
13 C
14 A
1 C bet
6 C win +24
3 C win +48
30 A L1 +36
35 C L2 +24
7 B L3 +12 wait
35 C
1 C
19 A
12 C bet C
16 C win +36
4 A L1 +24
10 B L2 +12
9 A L3 0 wait
3 C
34 C
20 B bet now
13 C L1 -12
12 C win +12
33 C win +36
26 C win +60
1 C win +84
22 A L1 +72
8 A win +96
34 C L1 +84
13 C win +108 70 spins
25 B L1 +96
21 B win +120
5 B win +144
13 C L1 +132
0 L2 +120 Stop wait at 0
16 C
3 C
30 A
24 B bet now
20 B win +144
31 A L1 +132
2 B L2 +120
34 C L3 +108 wait
36 A
1 C
14 A
1 C bet now
12 C win +132
6 C win +156
16 C win +180 90 spins
29 B L1 +168
31 A L2 +156
24 B L3 +144 wait
35 C
9 A
2 B bet now
10 B win +168
21 B win +192
30 A L1 +180
15 A win +204
15 A win +228
22 A win +252
32 A win +276
35 C
113 Spins , win +276
See series like CCCC.... BBBAAAA....... this really works :dance1:
I am speak with my self, but doesn t matter, i have i winner.
I will keep testing when i have the time.
good luck.
Test 6 ( 1A flat bet the last to repeat)
23 b
1 c
25 b
4 a
16 c bet now
17 b, l1 -12
19 a l2 -24
0 l3 -36 wait
15 a
17 b
15 a
3 c bet now
12 c win -12
29 b l1 -24
24 b win 0
34 c l1 -12
24 b l2 -24
36 a l3 -36 wait
5 b
32 a
16 c
4 a bet now
23 b l1 -48
12 c l2 -60
34 c win -36
32 a l1 -48
15 a win -24
22 a win 0
32 a win +24
18 b l1 +12
11 a l2 0
15 a win +24
24 b l1 +12
31 a l2 0
32 a win +24
26 c l1 +12
1 c win +36
28 b l1 +24
4 a l2 +12
26 c l3 0 wait
21 b
1 c
5 b
4 a bet now
7 b l1 -12
8 a l2 -24
3 c l3 -36 wait
22 a
35 c
31 a
5 b bet now
34 c l1 -48
33 c win -24
6 c win 0
21 b l1 -12
28 b win +12
26 c l1 0
12 c win +24
33 c win +48
26 c win +72
34 c win +96
3 c win +120
32 a l1 +108
34 c l2 +96
35 c win +120
12 c win +144
2 b l1 +132
33 c l2 +120
2 b l3 +108 wait
24 b
32 a
0 -
32 a
22 a
24 b bet now
29 b win +132
5 b win +156
26 c l1 +144
3 c win +168
15 a l1 +156
13 c l2 +144
8 a l3 +132 wait
20 c
29 b
33 c
31 a bet now
26 c l1 +120
7 b l2 +108
32 a l3 +96 wait
26 c
31 a
16 c
23 b bet now
21 b win +120
33 c l1 +108
9 a l2 +96
9 a win +120 100 spins
29 b l1 +108
21 b win +132
17 b win +156
7 b win +180
7 b win +204
31 c l1 + 192
stop , 106 spins= +204 win
Max. down was -60.
End test 6
Test 7 ( 1A flat bet the last to repeat)
Hard session , still up +12
12 c
2 b
28 b
19 a
34 c bet now
24 b l1 -12
25 b win +12
32 a l1 0
1 c l2 -12
24 b l3 -24 wait
13 c
24 b
36 a
35 c bet now
11 a l1 -36
1 c l2 -48
11 a l3 -60 wait
14 a
27 c
29 b
35 c bet now
6 c win -36
31 a l1 -48
2 b l2 -60
3 c l3 -72 wait
30 a
18 b
13 c
23 b bet now
7 b win -48
22 a l1 -60
22 a win -36
23 b l1 -48
0 l2 stop wait
25 b
3 c
31 a
25 b bet now
28 b win -24
29 b win 0
25 b win +24
20 c l1 +12
10 b l2 0
10 b win +24
18 b win +48
11 a l1 +36
0 l2 +24 stop wait
6 c
21 b
18 b
10 b
27 c bet now
26 c win +48
28 b l1 +36
31 a l2 +24
27 c l3 +12 wait
23 b
20 c
25 b
26 c bet now
35 c win +36
20 c win +60
29 b l1 +48
32 a l2 +36
23 b l3 +24 wait
3 c
27 c
17 b
18 b bet now
3 c l1 +12
31 a l2 0
16 c l3 -12 wait
29 b
3 c
16 c
14 a bet now
29 b l1 -24
0 l2 -36 wait
18 b
13 c
4 a
5 b bet now
35 c l1 -48
2 b l2 -60
14 a l3 -72 wait
28 b
19 a
33 c
20 c bet now
35 c win -48
29 b l1 -60
30 a l2 -72
1 c l3 -84 wait
15 a
17 b
1 c
29 b bet now
21 b win -60
36 a l1 -72
9 a win -48
11 a win -24
1 c l1 -36
7 b l2 -48
18 b win -24
11 a l1 -36
9 a win -12
9 a win +12 107 spins
stop test 7 = 107 spins = +12 win
Max. down -84
Max. up +60
After 790 spins, still up (flat bet) +1452 ( at 1 euro per number)
or +145 (at 0,10 c per number )
Max. down was -84, and my stop loss is 120.
I made 7 tests (sessions) until now without loss.
I will keep testing.
good luck
Hi Kattila
Well done on your tests so far, it looks very promising. Tell me, which set are you playing, and have any yielded more profit than other, such as 2A?
Thanks
BW
Done a short test of 1A repeating the last, and won +132 in 19 spins! Will definately do some more testing
BW
Thanks for your reply Buffalowizard . I am testing flat bet only , if will not
work i will try 2A and 2B (progressions).
Keep testing.
Cheers.
Another test from wiesbaden....exactly the same result from a different month -
19 spins, +132
Flat betting and not stopping after 3 losses, i just kept on going. it looked like this
WWLWLLLWLWWWWLLLLWW
The 1st session looked like this
WLLWWWLWWLLLWLWLLWW
wiesbaden 3.7.10
a terrible session where it would have been wise to stop after 3Losses like you say.
WLLLLLLLLWLWLLLLWWLLLLLLLLLLLLLWWLLL
This would be an emergency recovery session, but i am still optimistic it will come through in the long run
Another session
LLLWLLWLLWLLLLLLLLLWWLWLLWWLWWLWWWWLLLLLWLWL
A ropy session but ending in profit so a good one.
I think the way to go is this.
Stop after 3 losses.
Wait until a Win and then bet as normal, stopping after 3 losses again...flat bet
ABove session that way would have ended +72
And the horror session from previous post would have ended only -60
Now we are onto a winner!
BW
Yes Biffalo this could be a winner( long run) , but hey .....
we have to keep testing.
The only change you sugest is wait a win than bet,
just try it and tell me news. I keep my way for the moment.
LLWWLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLLWLLLL
-88
Buffalo, just play like I do, around 100 spins sessions, stop-loss at 120.
You see my good results above . :thumbsup:
hi kattila and thanks for sharing this.
i've just run it through a sample of 320 actuals, flat betting as outlined in 1A, not resting for 3 -5 spins after 3 losses but betting again immediately after a virtual win.
it's showed a profit of 431points, with very little drawdown.
very encouraging!
will keep testing, thanks again for your hard work.
Test 8 ( 1A flat bet the last to repeat)
12 c
5 b
22 a
12 c
31 a bet now
20 c l1 -12
15 a l2 +12
4 a win +36
4 a win +60
27 c l1 +48
23 b l2 +36
34 c l3 +24 wait
18 b
35 c
31 a
5 b bet now
10 b win +48
10 b win +72
36 a l1 +60
3 c l2 +48
15 c win +72
31 a l1 +60
9 a win +84
6 c l1 +72
33 c win +96
30 a l1 +84
8 a win +108
13 c l1 +96
23 b l2 +84
29 b win +108
35 c l1 +96
23 b l2 +84
6 c l3 +72 wait
28 b
14 a
10 b bet now
24 b win +96
32 a l1 +84
18 b l2 +72
12 c l3 +60 wait
16 c
0 -
11 a
25 b
22 a
24 b bet now
12 c l1 +48
10 b l2 +36
20 c l3 +24 wait
0 -
19 a
24 b
7 b
3 c bet now
17 b l1 +12
12 c l2 0
15 a l3 -12 wait
22 a
13 c
30 a bet now
9 a win +12
16 c l1 0
12 c win +24
35 c win +48
28 b l1 +36
26 c l2 +24
18 b l3 +12 wait
8 a
24 b
32 a bet now
9 a win +36
4 a win +60
31 a win +84
15 a win +108
0 l1 wait (0)
5 b
21 b
16 c
15 a bet now
25 b l1 +96
8 a l2 +84
9 a win +108
20 c l1 +96
14 a l2 +84
35 c l3 +72 wait
5 b
36 a
18 b
30 a bet now
27 c l1 +60
20 c win +84
29 b l1 +72
9 a l2 +60
15 a win +84
19 a win +108
13 c l1 +96
20 c win +120
21 b l1 +108
5 b win +132
2 b win +156
28 b win +180
36 a l1 +168
17 b l2 +156
23 b win +180
7 b win +204
end test 8
104 Spins = +204 win
Max. down -12 (twice)
Max. up +204
Hi Ewarwoowar , i am glad we have similar results testing my method,
even if you use trigger a virtual win , than start to bet. Keep testing that way.
Best regards.
Test 9 ( 1A flat bet the last to repeat)
36 a
17 b
1 c
7 b
28 b
3 c bet now
11 a
18 b l1 -12
8 a l2 -24
16 c l3 -36 wait
14 a
7 b
2 b
22 a bet now
10 b l1 -48
18 b win -24
29 b win 0
34 c l1 -12
36 a l2 -24
32 a win 0
0 l1 wait
30 a
13 c
36 a
1 c bet now
36 a l1 -12
27 c l2 -24
0 l3 -36 wait
8 a
13 c
25 b
20 c bet now
15 a l1 -48
27 c l2 -60
25 b l3 -72 wait
13 c
11 a
10 b
13 c bet now
14 a l1 -84
24 b l2 -96
22 a l3 -108 wait
10 b
14 a
7 b
19 a bet now
24 b l1 -120 stop loss
End session 9 , first lossing session
47 spins = -120 stop loss
Test 10 ( 1A flat bet the last to repeat)
18 b
26 c
21 b
15 a
3 c bet now
22 a l1 -12
11 a win +12
16 c l1 0
23 b l2 -12
22 a l3 -24 wait
33 c
18 b
28 b
16 c bet now
24 b l1 -36
30 a l2 -48
1 c l3 -60 wait
14 a
35 c
3 c
9 a bet now
18 b l1 -72
18 b win -48
10 b win -24
33 c l1 -36
20 c win -12
27 c win +12
15 a l1 0
10 b l2 -12
9 a l3 -24 wait
5 b
12 c
34 c
4 a bet now
8 a win 0
15 a win +24
20 c l1 +12
6 c win +36
22 a l1 +24
19 a win +48
35 c l1 +36
25 b l2 +24
17 b win +48
35 c l1 +36
18 b l2 +24
26 c l3 +12 wait
26 c
17 b
19 a
2 b bet now
23 b win +36
3 c l1 +24
24 b l2 +12
7 b win +36
7 b win +60
1 c l1 +48
27 c win +72
1 c win +96
27 c win +120
23 b l1 +108
20 c l2 +96
19 a l3 +84 wait
27 c
12 c
29 b
7 b bet b
35 c l1 +72
10 b l2 +60
24 b win +84
2 b win +108
31 a l1 +96
34 c l2 +84
25 b l3 +72 wait
12 c
26 c
30 a
18 b bet now
10 b win +96
18 b win +120
0 l1 +108 stop wait
30 a
24 b
33 c
35 c bet now
9 a l1 +96
30 a win +120
33 c l1 +108
15 a l2 +96
36 a win +120
36 a win +144
18 b l1 +132
4 a l2 +120
11 a win +144
29 b l1 +132
29 b win +156
23 b win +180
28 b win +204 90
4 a l1 +192
34 c l2 +180
33 c win +204
1 c win +228
12 c win +252
26 c win +276
35 c win +300
11 a l1 + 288
28 b l2 +276
28 b win +300
24 b win +324
10 b wn +348
End test 10
103 spins = +348 win
Max. down -72
Max . up +348
Ok
Total tested spins 1044
10 sessions (tests) , 9 wins / 1 loss
Max. down -120 (stop loss)
Total ( virtual ) win 1884 .
good luck
Test 11 ( 1A flat bet the last to repeat)
26 c
8 a
7 b
28 b
20 c bet now
22 a l1 -12
4 a w +12
30 a w +36
17 b l1 +24
17 b w +48
26 c l1 +36
33 c w +60
33 c w +84
17 b l1 +72
13 c l2 +60
31 a l3 +48 wait
20 c
11 a
18 b
27 c bet now
36 a l1 +36
10 b l2 +24
21 b w +48
15 a l1 +36
20 c l2 +24
23 b l3 +12 wait
28 b
12 c
27 c
1 c
24 b
35 a bet now
18 b l1 0
33 c l2 -12
9 a l3 -24 wait
16 c
15 a
7 b
15 a bet now
0 l1 -36 wait
16 c
17 b
11 a
28 b bet now
26 c l1 -48
8 a l2 -60
0 l3 -72 wait
36 a
33 c
4 a
18 b bet now
31 a l1 -84
1 c l2 -96
26 c w -72
34 c w -48
24 b l1 -60
24 b w -36
2 b w -12
24 b w +12
12 c l1 0
2 b l2 -12
27 c l3 -24 wait
13 c
7 b
33 c
18 b bet now
14 a l1 -36
11 a w -12
16 c l1 -24
4 a l2 -36
5 b l3 -48 wait
11 a
20 c
33 c
24 b bet now
7 b w -24
8 a l1 -36
25 b l2 -48
24 b w -24
17 b w 0
24 b w +12
22 a l1 0
32 a w +24
28 b l1 +12
35 c l2 0
6 c w +24
32 a l1 +12
23 b l2 0
18 b w +24
0 l1 +12 wait
3 c
21 b
13 c
22 a bet now
22 a w +36
8 a w +60
32 a w +84 spins 101
end test 11
101 spins= +84 win
Max. down -96
Max. up +84 ( twice)
Test 12 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat )
17 b
30 a
13 c
5 b bet now
17 b w +24
20 c l1 +12
36 a l2 0
14 a w +24
9 a w +48
17 b l1 +36
10 b w +60
29 b w +84
35 c l1 +72
8 a l2 +60
34 c l3 +48 wait
0 -
20 c
17 b
30 a
0 - wait
28 b
14 a
12 c
18 b bet now
28 b w +72
35 c l1 +60
22 a l2 +48
5 a w +72
32 a w +96
5 a w +120
16 c l1 +108
22 a l2 +96
5 a w +120
31 a w +144
4 a w +168
4 a w +192
6 c l1 +180
11 a l2 +168
23 b l3 +156 wait
21 b
33 c
22 a
28 b bet now
32 a l1 +144
26 c l2 +132
35 c w +156
20 c w +180
5 b l1 +168
23 b w +192
17 b w +216 50 spins
End test 12 at 50 spins (because of good profit)
51 spins = +204 win
max. down 0
max. up +216
Test 13 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
1 c
16 c
19 a
6 c
9 a
5 b bet now
26 c l1 -12
33 c w +12
36 a l1 0
36 a w +24
1 c l1 +12
36 a l2 0
7 b l3 -12 wait
21 b
3 c
15 a
27 c bet now
9 a l1 -24
36 a w 0
30 a w +24
7 b l1 +12
4 a l2 0
27 c l3 -12 wait
32 a
6 c
23 b
19 a bet now
36 a w +12
14 a w +36
13 c l1 +24
0 l2 +12 wait
32 a
34 c
25 b
14 a bet a
7 b l1 0
0 l2 -12 wait
10 b
1 c
28 b
36 a bet a
9 a w +12
18 b l1 0
33 c l2 -12
35 c w +12
1 c w +36
28 b l1 +24
19 a l2 +12
18 b l3 0 wait
18 b
22 a
27 c
13 c bet c
16 c w +24
27 c w +48
5 b l1 +36
14 a l2 +24
18 b l3 +12 wait
2 b
14 a
19 a
21 b bet now
28 b w +36
24 b w +60
27 c l1 +48
28 b l2 +36
17 b w +60
0 l1 +48 wait
20 c
3 c
32 a
21 b bet now
17 b w +72
0 l1 +60 wait
20 c
25 b
23 b
22 a bet now
5 b l1 +48
21 b w +72
26 c l1 +60
25 b l2 +48
35 c l3 +36 wait
14 a
10 b
19 a
9 a
13 c bet now
4 a l1 +24
8 a w +48
21 b l1 +36
4 a l2 +24
33 c l3 +12 wait
27 c
24 b
27 c
30 a bet a
14 a w +36
19 a w +60
26 c l1 +48
0 l2 +36 wait
14 a
2 b
10 b
36 a bet now
10 b l1 +24
29 b w +48
4 a l1 +36
5 b l2 +24
29 b w +48
28 b w +72 111 spins
End test 13
111 spins= +72 win
max. down -24
max. up +72
Test 14 ( 1A, flat bet to repeat the last)
35 c
21 b
36 a
20 c bet
12 c win +24
17 b l1 +12
28 b win +36
35 c l1 +24
14 a l2 +12
25 b l3 0 wait
27 c
36 a
32 a
29 b bet b
4 a l1 -12
19 a w +12
32 a w +36
30 a w +60
8 a w +84
31 a w +108
11 a w +132 nice one
18 b l1 +120
10 b w +144
1 c l1 +132
7 b l2 +120
19 a l3 +108 wait
12 c
8 a
24 b
6 c bet now
23 b l1 +96
31 a l2 +84
8 a w +108
33 c l1 +96
23 b l2 +84
3 c l3 +72 wait
19 a
23 b
15 a
28 b bet now
5 b w +96
4 a l1 +84
1 c l2 +72
2 b l3 +60 wait
0
1 c
32 a
29 b
3 c bet now
1 c w +84
16 c w +108
35 c w +132
13 c w +156
1 c w +180
9 a l1 +168
23 b l2 +156
23 b w +180
30 a l1 +168
31 a w +192
24 b l1 +180
32 a l2 +168
35 c l3 +156 wait
27 c
28 b
17 b
20 c bet now
11 a l1 +144
7 b l2 +132
18 b w +156
7 b w +180
18 b w +204 stop session
End session 14
73 spins = +204
max. down -12
max. up +204
Test 15 ( 1A, flat bet to repeat the last)
Hard session
13 c
17 b
3 c
4 a bet now
14 a w +24
26 c l1 +12
31 a l2 0
8 a w +24
17 b l1 +12
33 c l2 0
20 b l3 -12 wait
10 b
0
28 b
5 b
9 a
33 c bet now
19 a l1 -24
14 a w 0
18 b l1 -12
12 c l2 -24
35 c w 0
28 b l1 -12
31 a l2 -24
27 c l3 -36 wait
16 c
13 c
31 a bet now
30 a w -12
15 a w +12
9 a w +36
5 b l1 +24
27 c l2 +12
7 b l3 0 wait
18 b
14 a
19 a
13 c bet now
4 a l1 -12
26 c l2 -24
17 b l3 -36
22 a
35 c
24 b bet now
10 b w -12
9 a l1 -24
32 a w 0
27 c l1 -12
2 b l2 -24
35 c l3 -36 wait
23 b
26 c
31 a
2 b bet now
7 b w -12
27 c l1 -24
32 a l2 -36
1 c l3 -48 wait
15 a
0
1 c
24 b
2 b
27 c bet now
25 b l1 -60
20 c l2 -72
17 b l3 -84 wait
18 b
8 a
2 b
0
34 c
18 b bet now
8 a l1 -96
22 a w -72
33 c l1 -84
27 c w -60
33 c w -36
5 b l1 -48
17 b w -24
35 c l1 -36
17 b l2 -48
27 c l3 -60 wait
25 b
19 a
8 a
16 c bet
14 a l1 -72
18 b l2 -84
2 b w -60
1 c l1 -72
13 c w -48
6 c w -24
9 a l1 -36
16 c l2 -48
25 b l3 -60 wait
17 b
31 a
29 b
14 a bet a
25 b l1 -72
3 c l2 -84
31 a l3 -96 wait
29 b
14 a
25 b
36 a bet now
9 a w -72
28 b l1 -84
33 c l2 -96
3 c w -72
31 a l1 -84
30 a w -60
11 a w -36
1 c l1 -48
24 b l2 -60
7 b w -36
3 c l1 -48
11 a l2 -60
18 b l3 -72 wait
4 a
8 a
18 b
15 a bet now
27 c l1 -84
27 c w -60
5 b l1 -72
31 a l2 -84
31 a w -60
15 a w -36
19 a w -12
14 a w +12
36 a w +36
5 b l1 +24
7 b w +48
5 b w +72
end test 15, hard session but good end
136 spins = +72
Max. down -96 (remember stop loss is at -120)
Max. up +72
Until now i made 15 tests( 14 win / 1 loss) , total 1515 spins.
Was three hard sessions , two close to stop loss but with happy end,
and one lost at -120 , stop loss. The others 12 sessions , very good.
Results:
+2532 euro win / 1515 spins / flat bet at 1 euro/ $ per number
or +506 euro win/ 1515 spins / flat bet at 0,20 E/$ per number
Excellent results Kattila
Keep it up and I will continue testing
BW
i'll test in blocks of 100 spins from now on.
just ran through 100 actuals from dublinbet.
i bet from the 2nd spin and after 3 losses, resumed straight away after a virtual win.
end profit 58 units
max down -12
max up 262 at spin 51.
from now ill operate at your stop loss of 120 units katilla and end the session at a target of 200.
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*from now ill operate at your stop-loss of 120 units katilla and end the session at a target of 200*
Yes, stop-loss it is good at -120, and if we make more than + 200 (or around)
before that 100 spins , target reached. But an reached target is any
good profit (even +24, +60, or +72, or why not +300) after that 100 spins.
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*i bet from the 2nd spin and after 3 losses, resumed straight away after a virtual win. *
So, you do wait an virtual win , than start to bet ? or bet from the 2nd spin after 3 Ls
Keep testing.
hi kattila,
when i've experienced 3 losses, i stop betting and i start again immediately after a virtual win. this has been 2 spins later or 12 spins later.
i've not had much time this week, but i'll test many more spin samples in the next few days.
yes, i take your point about targets, but if, for example, i'd operated my stop loss from the highest point of the bankroll reached during the game, the last session would have given me 142 points profit instead of 58.
all things to consider!
Yes right, just look at test 14 , +204 in 73 spins and others , at 51 spins (+204)if the target
is reached, stop session.
Keep testing when you have the time ( keep that way , 3 L s , than wait virtual win
and than bet again ).
I will keep testing without wait virtual win. :thumbsup:
Test 16 ( 1A, flat bet to repeat the last)
This is what we talk about , a good session before 100 spins. :thumbsup:
26 c
28 b
16 c
1 c
9 a bet now
33 c l1 -12
12 c w +12
24 b l1 0
33 c l2 -12
10 b l3 -24
23 b w 0
0 l1 -12 wait
15 a
20 c
19 a bet now
1 c l1 -24
3 c w 0
12 c w +24
20 c w +48
35 c w +72
5 b l1 +60
25 b w +84
32 a l1 +72
29 b l2 +60
10 b w +84
23 b w +108
5 b w +132
5 b w +156
23 b w +180
26 c l1 +168
26 c w +192
11 a l1 +180
36 a w +204 stop
End test 16
34 spins = +204 win
Max. down -24
max. up +204
Test 17 ( 1A, flat bet to repeat the last)
29 b
8 a
24 b
18 b bet now
33 c l1 -12
35 c w +12
17 b l1 0
26 c l2 -12
1 c w +12
30 a l1 0
25 b l2 -12
11 a l3 -24 wait
1 c
2 b
2 b bet now
7 b w 0
31 a l1 -12
21 b l2 -24
13 c l3 -36 wait
14 a
21 b
30 a
2 b bet now
7 b w -12
9 a l1 -24
28 b l2 -36
36 a l3 -48 wait
15 a
27 c
9 a
35 c bet now
1 c w -24
8 a l1 -36
9 a w -12
15 a w +12
7 b l1 0
0 l2 -12 wait
17 b
30 a
10 b
12 c bet now
28 b l1 -24
30 a l2 -36
9 a w -12
17 b l1 -24
19 a l2 -36
20 c l3 -48 wait
25 b
6 c
9 a
6 c bet now
19 a l1 -60
15 a w -36
28 b l1 -48
2 b w -24
27 c l1 -36
0 l2 -48 wait
26 c
0
32 a
20 c
14 a
1 c bet now
15 a l1 -60
32 a w -36
1 c l1 -48
11 a l2 -60
21 b l3 -72 wait
8 a
34 c
17 b bet now Now look at this ! BBBBB...
23 b w -48
18 b w -24
28 b w 0
24 b w +24
7 b w +48
25 b w +72 ( from -72 at +72 )
9 a l1 +60
3 c l2 +48
26 c w +72
8 a l1 +60
36 a w +84
8 a w +108
31 a w +132
27 c l1 +120
26 c w +144
16 c w +168 90 spins
18 b l1 +156
1 c l2 +144
4 a l3 +132 wait
25 b
1 c
35 c
32 a bet now
27 b l1 +120
2 b w +144
29 b w +168
34 c l1 +156
24 b l2 +144
21 b w +168 103 spins
End test 17
103 spins = +168 win
Max. down -72
Max. up +168
ok, two tricky sessions using dublinbet actuals, flat betting, stop at 3 losses, wait for a virtual win and the start betting again.
1st session 106 spins
end profit 0 units
max down -48 units at spin 11
max up 72 units at spin 63
2nd session 130 spins
end profit 72 units
max down -60 units at spin 22
max up 96 units at spin 81
Yes tricky sessions, but one ended +72( good), and the other break even.
I see only good results(+ 72, and break even) , no losses.
You will still find hard sessions like that, but important is win more
than loss, and this method (until now) win more than loss. :)
Totally agreed there!
in a casino you probably wouldn't walk away from the table at zero profit. you'd probably play until either your stop-loss was reached or you gained a profit.
with regards to the end of the first session, 3 spins earlier I was at 36 units profit. if i'd have played on, I would have had 48 units 2 spins later.
i didn't want to record this for testing purposes as those were the spins i'd selected for testing and I didn't want to back fit the system.
still looks very encouraging!
Test 18 ( 1A, flat bet to repeat the last)
29 b
13 c
24 b
21 b
36 a bet now
21 b l1 -12
13 c l2 -24
17 b l3 -36 wait
35 c
9 a
33 c
30 a bet
35 c l1 -48
15 a l2 -60
4 a w -36
5 b l1 -48
30 a l2 -60
4 a w -36
36 a w -12
1 c l1 -24
9 a l2 -36
16 c l3 -48 wait
8 a
10 b
19 a
18 b bet
20 c l1 -60
27 c w -36
25 b l1 -48
31 a l2 -60
7 b l3 -72 wait
29 b
21 b
19 a bet
32 a w -48
17 b l1 -60
13 c l2 -72
32 a l3 -84 wait
12 c
2 b
26 c bet
20 c w -60
1 c w -36
10 b l1 -48
16 c l2 -60
14 a l3 -72 wait
5 b
5 b
16 c
19 a bet
31 a w -48
9 a w -24
4 a w 0
22 a w +24
36 a w +48
26 c l1 +36
3 c w +60
8 a l1 +48
25 b l2 +36
34 c l3 +24 wait
25 b
33 c
20 c
24 b bet
26 c l1 +12
27 c w +36
14 a l1 +24
4 a w +48
21 b l1 +36
0 l2 +24 wait
5 b
30 a
1 c
30 a bet now
33 c l1 +12
0 l2 0 wait
8 a
12 c
15 a
1 c bet now
29 b l1 -12
21 b w +12
5 b w +36
29 b w +60
28 b w +84
6 c l1 +72
6 c w +96
16 c w +120
28 b l1 +108
26 c l2 +96
36 a l3 +84 wait
1 c
32 a
31 a
20 c bet now
10 b l1 +72
11 a l2 +60
23 b l3 +48 wait
3 c
7 b
12 c
17 b bet
18 b w +72
6 c l1 +60
21 b l2 +48
9 a l3 +36 wait
14 a
18 b
11 a
3 c bet
27 c w +60
20 c w +84
7 b l1 +72
32 a l2 +60
3 c l3 +48 wait
34 c
34 c
8 a
18 b bet
12 c l1 +36
8 a l2 +24
9 a w +48
2 b l1 +36
29 b w +60
0 l1 +48 wait
14 a
26 c
35 c
32 a bet now
21 b l1 +36
4 a l2 +24
8 a w +48
32 a w +72
29 b l1 +60
21 b w +84
33 c l1 +72
6 c w +96
33 c w +120
34 c w +144 150 spins
End test 18
150 spins = +144 win
Max. down -84 (stop-loss at - 120)
Max. up +144
For sure this way ( after 3 Ls , wait 3-5 spins , than bet) is a good way( see results),
but the other ( after 3 Ls , wait trigger, than bet) could be a good
and maybe safer way to play. Ewarwoowar, keep testing that way when you can.
Test 19 ( 1A, flat bet to repeat the last)
7 b
3 c
2 b
16 c bet
16 c w +24
20 c w +48
22 a l1 +36
15 a w +60
29 b l1 +48
13 c l2 +36
11 a l3 +36 wait
32 a
27 c
1 c
25 b bet
28 b w +60
26 c l1 +48
5 b l2 +36
28 b w +60
25 b w +84
6 c l1 +72
10 b l2 +60
31 a l3 +48 wait
8 a
24 b
26 c
23 b bet
21 b w +72
25 b w +96
34 c l1 +84
0 l2 +72 wait
8 a
9 a
12 c
5 b bet
35 c l1 +60
23 b l2 +48
15 a l3 +36 wait
7 b
5 b
31 a
35 c bet now
26 c w +60
30 a l1 +48
5 b l2 +36
18 b w +60
16 c l1 +48
14 a l2 +36
21 b l3 +24 wait
7 b
12 c
14 a
20 c bet
1 c w +48
16 c w +72
27 c w +96
12 c w +120
6 c w +144
18 b l1 +132
10 b w +156
17 b w +180
17 b w +204
15 a l1 +192
20 c l2 +180
27 c w +204
19 a l1 +192
28 b l2 +180
24 b w +204
2 b w +228
24 b w +252
End session 19
74 spins = +252 win
Max. down (not down)
Max. up +252
Test 20 ( 1A, flat bet to repeat the last)
Other short session with very good results. :o
1 c
22 a
1 c
18 b bet
17 b w +24
23 b w +48
7 b w +72
34 c l1 +60
26 c w +84
14 a l1 +72
30 a w +96
23 b l1 +84
17 b w +108
25 b w +132
28 b w +156
13 c l1 +144
1 c w +168
13 c w +192
23 b l1 +180
17 b w +204
36 a l1 +192
30 a w +216
8 a w +240
End test 20
Only 23 spins = +240 win
Max down ... not down
Max. up +240
Results until now
1900 spins
20 sessions
19 sessions win / 1 session loss
Max. down once -120 ( stop loss)
Total win:
3540 $/e at 1 $/e per number
708 $/e at 0,20$/e per number
Bad sessions will appear for sure (or not ?) will see.
Anyway until now wins much more than loss.
WAY 1 (wait 3-5 spins after 3 LLL, than bet) is good enough.
Way 2
FROM NOW I WILL TEST WITH WAIT TRIGGER AFTER 3LLL.
Test 21 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait trigger after 3 L s.
26 c
4 a
24 b
12 c
23 b
28 b trigger
2 b w +24
7 b w +48
20 c l1 +36
15 a l2 +24
7 c l3 +12 wait trigger
36 a
33 c
17 b
36 a
33 c
34 c trigger
34 c w +36
3 c w +60
27 c w +84
19 a l1 +72
35 c l2 +60
34 c w +84
1 c w +108
3 c w +132
22 a l1 +120
7 c l2 +108
16 c w +132
23 b l1 +120
11 a l2 +108
27 c l3 +96 wait trigger
28 b
33 c
22 a
1 c
10 b
15 a
18 b
29 b trigger
22 a l1 +84
12 c w +108
7 c w +132
26 c w +156
31 a l1 +144
8 a w +168
21 b l1 +156
0 l2 +144 wait trigger
7 c
9 a
9 a tr
3 c l1 +132
16 c w +156
9 a l1 +144
27 c l2 +132
2 b l3 +120 wait trigger
22 a
0 -
13 c
8 a
30 a trigger
18 b l1 +108
6 c l2 +96
1 c w +120
19 a l1 +108
0 - l2 +96 wait trigger
13 c
21 b
13 c
15 a
20 c
15 a
30 a tr
15 a w +120
29 b l1 +108
28 b w +132
4 a l1 +120
5 b l2 +108
16 c l3 +96 wait trigger
0 -
22 a
24 b
4 a
29 b
34 c
2 b
28 b trigger
16 c l1 +84
6 c w +108
10 b l1 +96
6 c l2 +84
26 c w +108
33 c w +132
31 a l1 +120
15 a w +144
27 b l1 +132
35 c l2 +120
31 a l3 +108 wait trigger
4 a trigger
27 b l1 +96
13 c l2 +84
16 c w +108
8 a l1 +96
31 a w +120
36 a w +144
19 a w +168 stop at 105 spins
End session 21
105 spins= +168 win
max. down ( not down)
max. up +168 (twice)
Test 22 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait trigger after 3 L s
5 b
11 a
33 c
5 b
15 a
35 c
8 a
11 a trigger
2 b l1 -12
18 b w +12
3 c l1 0
26 c w +24
33 c w +48
8 a l1 +36
35 c l2 +24
18 b l3 +12 wait trigger
33 c
24 b
36 a
28 b
9 a
4 a tr
25 b l1 0
16 c l2 -12
36 a l3 -24 wait tr.
18 b
5 b tr.
24 b w 0
4 a l1 -12
33 c l2 -24
22 a l3 -36 wait tr.
6 c
23 b
10 b tr.
26 c l1 -48
18 b l2 -60
36 a l3 -72 wait tr.
18 b
3 c
0 -
22 a
29 b
27 c
19 c tr.
36 a l1 -84
19 a w -60
4 a w -36
4 a w -12
17 b l1 -24
11 a l2 -36
14 a w -12
28 b l1 -24
33 c l2 -36
27 c w -12
36 a l1 -24
17 b l2 -36
9 a l3 -48 wait tr.
13 c
2 b
7 b tr.
6 c l1 -60
26 c w -36
3 c w -12
16 c w +12
34 c w +36
20 c w +60
17 b l1 +48
20 b w +72
7 b w +96
25 b w +120
7 b w +144
21 b w +168
16 c l1 +156
34 c w +180 75 spins
End test 22
75 spins = +180 w
max. down -84 ( stop loss at -120)
max. up +180
Kattila,
Great testing mate i,ve been following this thread from the start i,ve noticed whilst playing other methods that these groups are hitting quiet regular.
Which casino are you testing at ?
Rob
Spins from two different casinos
Wiesbaden ... Spins 2003 to 2008
Golden P. ....spins 2010
Kattila,
I think this has got serious potential.
As soon as i get time i will look over some of my actuals and post my results (busy at work at mo)
All the best
Rob
Hi Kattila,
I agree, some truly phenomenal testing. I will conduct my own with this when I have the time, but keep going as it is very exciting
BW
ok, 3 latest tests. using dublinbet actuals, flat betting method 1A. stopping at 3 losses, starting betting again after virtual win trigger.
1st session:
66 spins
end profit 202 units
max up 202
max down n/a
2nd session:
235 spins
end profit 120 units
max up 192 units at spin 105.
max down n/a
never in danger during this session, i just kept playing on.
3rd session:
98 spins
end profit 204 units
max up 204 units
max down n/a
3 sessions, never had a negative balance!
Very good Ewarwoowar ! Good sessions, and you know not all will be like those,
BUT yes you know allready ,this method can win more than loss .
Keep testing when you have the time.
You have tested until now around 500-600 spins ( positiv results).
Mine tests + yours = around 2700 spins ( ++++up...UP ) :thumbsup:
Test 23 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait trigger after 3 L s
30 a
14 a trigger
3 c l1 -12
35 c w +12
4 a l1 0
2 b l2 -12
19 a l3 -24 wait trigger
35 c
10 b
20 c
1 c trigger
0 l1 -36 wait trigger
31 a
10 b
21 b tr.
0 l1 -48 wait tr.
25 b
25 b tr.
13 c l1-60
20 c w- 36
28 b l1 -48
33 c l2 -60
1 c w -36
3 c w -12
31 a l1 -24
22 a w 0
11 a w +24
6 c l1 +12
25 b l2 0
10 b w +24
2 b w +48
13 c l1 +36
15 a l2 +24
13 c l3 +12 wait tr.
11 a
11 a trigger
1 c l1 0
0 l2 -12 wait tr.
19 a
7 b
30 a
17 b
26 c
35 c trigger
10 b l1 -24
35 c l2 -36
2 b l3 -48 wait trigger
8 a
25 b
12 c
12 c tr.
1 c w -24
19 a l1 -36
16 c l2 -48
25 b l3 -60 wait tr.
4 a
33 c
34 c tr.
10 b l1 -72
9 a l2 -84
30 a w -60
28 b l1 -72
12 c l2 -84
24 b l3 -96 wait tr.
26 c
1 c tr.
2 b l1 -108
6 c l2 -120 68 spins
End session 23
68 spins = -120
Max. up +48
Max. down -120
Lost session
Test 24 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait trigger after 3 L s
24 b
30 a
35 c
17 b
35 c
15 a
24 b
2 b trigger
10 b w +24
9 a l1 +12
3 c l2 0
17 b l3 -12 wait trigger
23 b tr.
3 c l1 -24
3 c w 0
0 l1 -12 wait tr.
28 b
11 a
7 b
30 a
26 c
8 a
11 a trigger
32 a w +12
31 a w +36
12 c l1 +24
9 a l2 +12
28 b l3 0 wait tr.
18 b tr.
26 c l1 -12
22 a l2 -24
18 b l3 -36 wait tr.
21 b tr.
9 a l1 -48
25 b l2 -60
8 a l3 -72 wait tr.
35 c
24 b
35 c
17 b
31 a
31 a tr.
24 b l1 -84
2 b w -60
12 c l1 -72
6 c w -48
24 b l1 -60
34 c l2 -72
35 c w -48
13 c w -24
9 a l1 -36
24 b l2 -48
27 c l3 -60 wait tr
6 c tr.
5 b l1 -72
5 b w -48
3 c l1 -24
6 c w 0
1 c w +24
13 c w +48
13 c w +72
8 a l1 +60
32 a w +84
33 c l1 +72
13 c w +96
16 c w +120
16 c w +144
25 b l1 +132
10 b w +156
15 a l1 +144
7 c l2 +132
31 a l3 +120 wait tr.
6 c
32 a
33 c
15 a
28 b
15 a
29 b
29 b tr.
32 a l1 +108
29 b l2 +96
15 a l3 +84 wait tr.
5 b
13 c
5 b
24 b tr.
1 c l1 +72
4 a l2 +60
20 c l3 +48 wait tr.
31 a
3 c
9 a
32 a tr.
15 a w +72
15 a w +96
27 c l1 +84
7 b l2 +72
9 a l3 +60 wait tr.
8 a tr.
6 c l1 +48
33 c w +72
1 c w +96
0 l1 +84 wait tr.
3 c
33 c tr.
0 l1 +72 wait tr.
6 c
11 a
25 b
21 b tr.
26 c l1 +60
23 b l2 +48
29 b w +72
6 c l1 +60
16 c w +84
34 c w +108
16 c w +132
0 l1 wait tr.
34 c
3 c tr.
34 c w +156
22 a l1 +144
23 b l2 +132
15 a l3 +120
4 a tr.
22 a w +144
32 a w +168
4 a w +192
29 b l1 +180
1 c l2 +168
20 c w +192
7 c w +216
27 c w +240 132 spins
End test 24
132 spins = +240 w
Max. down -84
Max. up +240
Test 25 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait trigger after 3 L s
9 a
20 c
22 a
27 c
16 c trigger
9 a l1 -12
31 a w +12
23 b l1 0
16 c l2 -12
27 c w +12
36 a l1 0
36 a w +24
6 c l1 +12
1 c w +36
1 c w +60
10 b l1 +48
20 c l2 +36
24 b l3 +24 wait trigger
30 a
2 b
2 b l1 +12
18 b w +36
19 a l1 +24
9 a w +48
2 b l1 +36
1 c l2 +24
33 c w +48
33 c w +72
0 l1 wait tr.
14 a
6 c
15 a
30 a tr.
5 b l1 +60
1 c l2 +48
33 c w +72
15 a l1 +60
34 c l2 +48
35 c w +72
30 a l1 +60
1 c l2 +48
26 c w +72
18 b l1 +60
20 c l2 +48
5 b l3 +36 wait tr.
3 c
0 -
35 c
33 c tr
9 a l1 +24
33 c l2 +12
31 a l3 0 wait tr.
13 c
29 b
33 c
23 b
21 b tr.
34 c l1 -12
0 l2 -24 wait tr.
5 b
16 c
30 a
32 a tr.
6 c l1 -36
0 l2 -48 wait tr.
29 b
8 a
15 a tr.
21 b l1 -60
14 a l2 -72
15 a w -48
23 b l1 -60
7 b w -36
28 b w -12
4 a l1 -24
34 c l2 -36
28 b l3 -48 wait tr.
20 c
11 a
10 b
20 c
16 c tr.
2 b l1 -60
2 b w -36
24 b w -12
31 a l1 -24
7 c l2 -36
4 a l3 -48 wait tr.
13 c
33 c tr.
18 b l1 -60
6 c l2 -72
19 a l3 -84 wait tr.
6 c
0 -
9 a
8 a tr.
25 b l1 -96
10 b w -72
1 c l1 -84
33 c w -60
8 a l1 -72
22 a w -48
24 b l1 -60
21 b w -36
13 c l1 -48
24 b l2 -60
13 c l3 -72 wait trigger
11 a
33 c
4 a
0 -
22 a
13 c
24 b
29 b tr.
28 b w -48
35 c l1 -60
16 c w -36
15 a l1 -48
12 c l2 -60
33 c w -36
23 b l1 -48
21 b w -24
7 b w 0 126 spins
26 c l1 -12
14 a l2 -24
7 c l3 -36 wait tr.
1 c trigger
26 c w -12
29 b l1 -24
31 a l2 -36
24 b l3 -48
29 b tr.
23 b w -24
15 a l1 -36
1 c l2 -48
15 a l3 -60 wait trigger
24 b
31 a
12 c
12 c tr.
20 c w -36
34 c w -12
15 a l1 -24
19 a w 0
4 a w +24 148 spins
End test 25
148 spins = +24 w
At 126 spins was 0 , break even
Max. down -96
Max. up +72 ( around spin 50)
Final up +24
Hard session , but still up.
Tested until now:
Kattila
2428 spins
25 sessions
2 lost sessions ( at -120, stop-loss)
23 sessions win +4032
Ewarwoowar
720 spins
4 sessions, win all , total +958
TOTAL( until now )
3148 spins
29 sessions ( some short, some large)
2 sessions lost
27 sessions win
Total win + 4990 at 1euro per number
+ 998 at 0,20 E/cent per number
Maybe 3000 spins it is not enough ?, so ...
Anyone with RX could test this method ?
Thanks.
Kattila your results looks amazing with flatbet only. Keep testing! :) I agree that someone could test this in RX. Maybe Victor wants to, ask him.
I FORGOT TO POST THE 3 GROUPS FOR AMERICAN WHEEL
same rules, at 0 and 00 stop and wait new trigger.
American wheel
A. 28,9,30,11,15,3,24,36,19,31,18,6
B. 11,7,20,32,13,1,27,10,21,33,16,4
C. 17,5,22,34,25,29,12,8,23,35,14,2
Hi all,
Wiesbaden 1st July 2010
WLLLLWWLLLLWLLWLLLWLLWLLLWLLLWLWLLLWLWLWWWLLLWWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLWWWWLLWLWLWLLWWLLWLLWWWLLLLWLWWWWLLLLLLLWLLWLLL
Approx 125 spins.
Wait 3LLL's for trigger
27 Wins
53 Losses
+12
ok, couldn't get on the site last night for some reason??
but i did some more testing, fairly mixed results, but came good. once again, very encouraging.
all tests flat betting as per 1A, using dublinbet actuals. stopping at 3 losses, starting betting again after a virtual win.
session 1:
76 spins
end profit -120 uniits, stop loss activated
max up 24 units
session 2:
102 spins
end profit +36 units
max up 108 units
max down 12 units
session 3:
46 spins
end profit -132 units, stop loss activated
max up 12 units
session 4:
124 spins
end profit -144 units, stop loss activated
max up 120 units @ spin 29
session 5:
141 spins
end profit +72 units
max down -48 @ spin 114
session 6:
100 spins
end profit +156 units
max up 168 @ spin 48
session 7:
100 spins
end profit +132 units
max down -36 units @ spin 64
session 8:
47 spins
end profit +204 units
max down n/a
session 9:
30 spins
end profit +216 units
max down - 36 units @ spin 13
will do more testing later today!
Thanks for your help Ewarwoowar . Still good results, remember stop-loss
at -120. And if you reached +120 before spin 50 , you could stop(session 4) :)
excellent results.
i tend to stop either exactly at 120 or i let the phase of 3 losses continue to the end, hence the -144.
a win maybe just around the corner.
i started off testing last night and found it so difficult to get a good result.
3 losses in the first 4 games and i was thinking that the bubble had burst. then it all came good again.
how many methods or systems can you expose, flat betting, to 100 spins at a time and get positive results consistently? we all know the answer to that one.
has the bubble burst, or do we need a new strategy?
20 sessions with 12 of them losing.
method as at 1A, flat betting using dublinbet actuals, stopping at 3 losses waiting for a virtual win trigger before starting betting.
session 1:
33 spins
end profit -132 units - stop loss
max up 36 units
session 2:
210 spins
end profit +48 units
max up 48 units
max down -96
session 3:
83 spins
end profit +144 units
max up 144 units
max down -24 units
session 4:
53 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up 24 units
session 5:
111 spins
end profit +60 units
max up 84 units
max down -60 units
session 6:
161 spins
end profit +72 units
max up 72 units
max down -96 units
session 7:
32 spins
end profit -144 units - stop loss
max up 24 units
session 8:
102 spins
end profit +96 units
max up 132 units
max down n/a
session 9:
99 spins
end profit -120 units -stop loss
max up 60 units
session 10:
83 spins
end profit +204 units
max down -48 units
session 11:
146 spins
end profit -144 units - stop loss
max up +60 units
session 12:
33 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up n/a
session 13:
61 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up 36 units
session 14:
39 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up n/a
session 15:
76 spins
end profit +204 units
max down n/a
session 16:
116 spins
end profit +60 units
max down -72 units
session 17:
162 spins
end profit -144 units - stop loss
max up 168 units @ spin 49
session 18:
38 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up 24 units
session 19:
88 spins
end profit -144 units - stop loss
max up 36 units
session 20:
140 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up 96 units @ spin78
a quick summary of above is 1866 spins and a loss of 660 units.
Hi Ewarwoowar , this is your results :
You have tested around 3300 spins , 33 sessions.
Lost 15 , win 18, , still up with +744. So, not so bad buddy.
I only lost 2 sessions in 2400 spins, profit +4032,
but I played little different, no wait trigger after 3 L s.
you wait trigger AA BB CC, this groups appear a lot, so maybe
better not wait trigger. Keep testing the two ways.
Example:
A L1
B L2
C L3 wait 3-5 spins only
B
A
C
A bet now
B L1
B win SEE HERE !
C L1
A L2
A win
C L1
C win
B L1
A L2
C L3 wait
A
B
C
B bet now
C L1
A L2
A w AND SEE HERE !
See when no wait the AA, BB, CC like a trigger
this groups ( AA, BB, CC) can help us to win after L1 and L2 .
I will keep testing like that.( and the other way, too)
Best regards
Excellent results testing.
If you decided to give this a real go would it be in a B & M casino. Not a lot of time to click on 12 numbers online without making mistakes.
Trebor
3 more test sessions.
all as above, flat betting, stop at 3 losses etc etc. using dublinbet actuals.
session 1:
29 spins
end profit +216 units
max down -36 units
session 2:
75 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up 48 units
session 3
108 spins
end profit +96 units
max down -108 units.
I noticed in these tests that you were up quite a bit on some of them only to later find that you reached your loss/stop. Maybe you should rake in a +48 (win target) and then quit the test and get some different numbers.
After all that best simulates real life play.
I say if your gonna have a stop/loss you might as well have a win/stop as well.
KEEL
Keel we are testing( flat bet), and yes you right a win / stop is necesary.
We have some ideas about this , so when we reached in the first 30-50 spins
between 120-250 because is a very good session( see tests) , we stop.
And when is an harder session ( go up and down) around 100-150 spins,
and we reached an +72, or +96 , we stop also.
Fur sure when i will play for real, i will start with only 0,20 per number,
stop loss at -24, and stop win around +40 (+60) . :)
which casino do you play at kattila?
I am not playing , still testing with numbers from different casinos.
Test 26 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait 3-5 spins after 3 L s
20 c
28 b
20 c
31 a bet now
13 c l1 -12
7 b l2 -24
14 a l3 -36 wait 3-5 spins
5 b
21 b
1 c
10 b bet now
2 b l1 -12
18 b w +12
30 a l1 0
21 b l2 -12
17 b w +12
19 a l1 0
5 b l2 -12
1 c l3 -24 wait
15 a
1 c
32 a
3 c bet
11 a l1 -36
1 c l2 -48
16 c w -24
14 a l1 -36
22 a w -12
26 c l1 -24
22 a l2 -36
16 c l3 -48 wait
3 c
36 a
14 a
10 b bet
2 b w -24
28 b w 0
18 b w +24
8 a l1 +12
22 a w +36
1 c l1 +24
32 a l2 +12
21 b l3 0 wait
11 a
5 b
32 a
4 a bet
33 c l1 -12
18 b l2 -24
19 a l3 -36 wait
32 a
8 a
21 b
16 c bet
8 a l1 -48
15 a w -24
34 c l1 -36
25 b l2 -48
19 a l3 -60 wait
25 b
19 a
22 a
20 c bet
5 b l1 -72
15 a l2 -84
1 c l3 -96 wait
9 a
20 c
27 c
2 b bet
33 c l1 -108
24 b l2 -120
End session 26 ( lost session)
73 spins = -120 ( stop loss)
Max. up +36
Test 27 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait 3-5 spins after 3 L s
33 c
25 b
21 b
36 a bet now
31 a w +24
31 a w +48
4 a w +72
31 a w +96
10 b l1 +84
30 a l1 +72
34 c l3 +60 wait
22 a
21 b
4 a
23 b bet
27 c l1 +48
11 a l2 +36
9 a w +60
0 l1 wait
4 a
21 b
35 c
30 a bet
1 c l1 +48
16 c w +72
5 b l1 +60
12 c l2 +48
15 a l3 +36 wait
34 c
33 c
31 a
19 a bet
1 c l1 +24
11 a l2 +12
30 a w +36
12 c l1 +24
6 c w +48
8 a l1 +36
11 a w +60
36 a w +84
12 c l1 +72
28 b l2 +60
23 b w +84
30 a l1 +72
22 a l2 +60
22 a w +84
32 a w +108
36 a w +132
18 b l1 +120
3 c l2 +108
1 c w +132
10 b l1 +120
35 c l2 +108
1 c w +132
33 c w +156
7 b l1 +144
0 l2 +132 wait
16 c
29 b
24 b
13 c bet
3 c w +156
17 b l1 +144
26 c l2 +132
18 b l3 +120 wait
18 b
9 a
33 c
6 c bet
23 b l1 +108
16 c l2 +96
26 c w +120
26 c w +144
28 b l1 +132
11 a l2 +120
0 l3 +108 wait
6 c
8 a
35 c
30 a bet
19 a w +132
13 c l1 +120
27 c w +144
34 c w +168
29 b l1 +156
12 c l2 +144
10 b l3 +132 wait
26 c
22 a
34 c
9 a bet
31 a w +156
12 c l1 +144
36 a l2 +132
22 a w +156 Here is the power of this method
30 a w +180 aaaaabbb..........
4 a w +204
19 a w +228
24 b l1 +216
29 b w +240
10 b w +264 101 spins
End test 27
101 spins = +264
Max. down ( not)
Max. up +264
Test 28 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait 3-5 spins after 3 L s
20 c
22 a
22 a
5 b bet
13 c l1 -12
1 c w +12
36 a l1 0
19 a w +24
15 a w +48
5 b l1 +36
9 a l2 +24
17 b l3 +12 wait
14 a
35 c
30 a
34 c bet
0 l1 0 wait
27 c
22 a
17 b
6 c bet
31 a l1 -12
27 c l2 -24
2 b l3 -36 wait
22 a
25 b
30 a
30 a bet
11 a w -12
12 c l1 0
23 b l2 -12
35 c l3 -24 wait
22 a
17 b
13 c
2 b bet
8 a l1 -36
26 c l2 -48
26 c w -24
21 b l1 -36
0 l2 -48 wait
12 c
0 -
12 c
26 c bet
27 c w -24
4 a l1 -36
20 c l2 -48
27 c w -24
19 a l1 -36
6 c l2 -48
13 c w -24
11 a l1 -36
22 a w -12
35 c l1 -24
15 a l2 -36
35 c l3 -48 wait
24 b
9 a
9 a
16 c bet
23 b l1 -60
17 b w -36
5 b w -12
26 c l1 -24
29 b l2 -36
5 b w -12
31 a l1 -24
13 c l2 -36
3 c w -12
12 c w +12
32 a l1 0
23 b l2 -12
29 b w +12
0 l1 0 wait
36 a
22 a
1 c
12 c bet
29 b l1 -12
7 b w +12
17 b w +36
35 c l1 +24
18 b l2 +12
35 c l3 0 wait
32 a
28 b
15 a
35 c bet
2 b l1 -12
31 a l2 -24
3 c l3 -36 wait
19 a
20 c
10 b
28 b bet
12 c l1 -48
15 a l2 -60
32 a w -36
16 c l1 -48
23 b l2 -60
33 c l3 -72 wait
11 a
14 a
23 b
9 a bet
31 a w -48
4 a w -24
33 c l1 -36
9 a l2 -48 BOOM !
30 a w -24
30 a w 0
14 a w +24
10 b l1 +12
5 b w +36
21 b w +60
5 b w +84
28 b w +108
28 b w +132
26 c l1 +120
31 a l2 +108
30 a w +132
32 a w +156
9 a w +180 128 spins
End test 28
128 spins = +180 win
Max. down -72
Max. up +180
Test 29 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait 3-5 spins after 3 L s
24 b
34 c
5 b
3 c bet
17 b l1 -12
25 b w +12
9 a l1 0
10 b l2 -12
21 b w +12
3 c l1 0
12 c w +12
0 l1 0 wait
35 c
29 b
26 c
17 b bet
8 a l1 -12
27 c l2 -24
11 a l3 -36 wait
23 b
20 c
7 b
23 b bet
28 b w -12
25 b w +12
30 a l1 0
27 c l2 -12
29 b l3 -24 wait
22 a
27 c
19 a
32 a bet
35 c l1 -36
23 b l2 -48
18 b w -24
13 c l1 -36
34 c w -12
32 a l1 -24
33 c l2 -36
8 a l3 -48 wait
25 b
7 b
16 c
33 c bet
14 a l1 -60
1 c l2 -72
15 a l3 -84 wait
20 c
27 c
29 b
9 a bet
25 b l1 -96
6 c l2 -108
33 c w -84
29 b l1 -96
2 b w -72
29 b w -48
28 b w -24
28 b w 0
12 c l1 -12
19 a l2 -24
26 c l3 -36 wait
3 c
2 b
17 b
0 - wait
35 c
28 b
13 c
27 c bet
3 c w -12
14 a l1 -24
23 b l2 -36
24 b w -12
36 a l1 -24
15 a w 0
1 c l1 -12
36 a l2 -24
7 b l3 -36 wait
9 a
29 b
32 a
32 a bet
17 b l1 -48
29 b w -24
22 a l1 -36
26 c l2 -48
9 a l3 -60 wait
31 a
26 c
33 c
9 a bet
35 c l1 -72
12 c w -48
26 c w -24
2 b l1 -36
13 c l2 -48
23 b l3 -60 wait
17 b
15 a
13 c
35 c bet
17 b l1 -72
2 b w -48
36 a l1 -60
12 c l2 -72
34 c w -48
14 a l1 -60
15 a w -36
8 a w -12
5 b l1 -24
17 b w 0
22 a l1 -12
32 a w +12
10 b l1 0
28 b w +24
3 c l1 +12
29 b l2 0
25 b w +24 118 spins
End test 29
118 spins = +24
max. down -108
max. up +24
Hard session.
Test 30 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait 3-5 spins after 3 L s
30 a
35 c
4 a
27 c bet
1 c w +24
28 b l1 +12
23 b w +36
35 c l1 +24
24 b l2 +12
2 b w +36
32 a l1 +24
10 b l2 +12
3 c l3 0 wait
23 b
7 b
20 c
4 a bet
32 a w +24
14 a w +48
1 c l1 +36
21 b l2 +24
32 a l3 +12 wait
31 a
27 c
28 b
22 a bet
36 a w +36
2 b l1 +24
12 c l2 +12
15 a l3 0 wait
4 a
34 c
21 b
22 a bet
4 a w +24
29 b l1 +12
25 b w +36
20 c l1 +24
19 a l2 +12
8 a w +36
33 c l1 +24
18 b l2 +12
32 a l3 0 wait
12 c
8 a
34 c
17 b bet now
21 b w +24
15 a l1 +12
2 b l2 0
17 b w +24
27 c l1 +12
35 c w +36
34 c w +60
3 c w +84
8 a l1 +72
16 c l2 +60
6 c w +84
6 c w +108
17 b l1 +96
12 c l2 +84
1 c w +108
26 c w +132
10 b l1 +120
21 b w +144
12 c l1 +132
21 b l2 +120
4 a l3 +108 wait
25 b
1 c
26 c
30 a bet
2 b l1 +96
35 c l2 +84
26 c w +108
4 a l1 +96
6 c l2 +84
15 a l3 +72 wait
21 b
14 a
25 b
7 b bet
20 c l1 +60
18 b l2 +48
32 a l3 +36 wait
8 a
34 c
32 c
28 b bet
11 a l1 +24
24 b l2 +12
3 c l3 0 wait
15 a
35 c
15 a
18 b bet
35 c l1 -12
1 c w +12
15 a l1 0
34 c l2 -12
23 b l3 -24 wait
21 b
9 a
36 a
11 a bet
2 b l1 -36
28 b w -12
24 b w +12
6 c l1 0
26 c w +24
9 a l1 +12
19 a w +36
36 a w +60
31 a w +84
31 a w +108 104 spins
End test 30
104 spins = +108 win
max. down -36
max. up +144 ( at spin 64)
Here are some DB numbers to test from the last month. These are stretches of 60-70 numbers but should be enough for your system.
Good luck
Test 31 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait 3-5 spins after 3 L s
Numbers from Chovek69
9 a
23 b
12 c
20 c
19 a bet
33 c l1 -12
23 b l2 -24
25 b w 0
12 c l1 -12
4 a l2 -24
17 b l3 -36 wait
13 c
21 b
27 c
19 a bet
6 c l1 -48
4 a l2 -60
7 c l3 -72 wait
11 a
30 a
13 c bet
16 c w -48
3 c w -24
8 a l1 -36
7 c l2 -48
4 a l3 -60 wait
22 a
16 c
12 c bet
11 a l1 -72
30 a w -48
23 b l1 -60
10 b w -36
31 a l1 -48
29 b l2 -60
1 c l3 -72 wait
22 a
13 c
35 c bet
2 b l1 -84
29 b w -60
36 a l1 -72
5 b l2 -84
8 a l3 -96 wait
2 b
16 c
4 a
34 c bet
10 b l1 -108
36 a l2 -120
End test 31 ( lost session)
50 spins = -120 stop loss
Max. up (not)
Test 32 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait 3-5 spins after 3 L s
Numbers from Chovek69
9 a
24 b
30 a
14 a
16 c bet
21 b l1 -12
18 b w +12
18 b w +36
14 a l1 +24
12 c l2 +12
3 c w +36
23 b l1 +24
15 a l2 +12
13 c l3 0 wait
7 b
27 c
6 c
19 a bet
36 a w +24
3 c l1 +12
20 c w +36
26 c w +60
23 b l1 +48
5 b w +72
5 b w +96
14 a l1 +84
14 a w +108
31 a w +132
20 c l1 +120
7 c w +144
25 b l1 +132
9 a l2 +120
13 c l3 +108 wait
3 c
11 a
23 b
17 b bet
4 a l1 +96
31 a w +120
29 b l1 +108
26 c l2 +96
32 a l3 +84 wait
24 b
14 a
30 a bet
11 a w +108
31 a w +132
6 c l1 +120
15 a l2 +108
15 a w +132
27 c l1 +120
29 b l2 +108
23 b w +132
31 a l1 +120
20 c l2 +108
23 b l3 +96 wait
5 b
24 b
6 c
23 b bet
12 c l1 +84
27 c w +108
9 a l1 +96
24 b l2 +84
15 a l3 +72 wait
17 b
6 c
20 c
19 a bet
19 a w +96
12 c l1 +84
11 a l2 +72
36 a w +96
11 a w +120
4 a w +144
9 a w +168
3 c l1 +156
8 a l2 +144
9 a w +168
35 c l1 +156
6 c w +180 81 spins
End test 32
81 spins = +180 win
Max. down -12
max. up +180
Test 33 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait 3-5 spins after 3 L s
Numbers from Chovek69
7 c
14 a
25 b
36 a
35 c bet
24 b l1 -12
25 b w +12
2 b w +36
22 a l1 +24
13 c l2 +12
36 a l3 0 wait
31 a
8 a
7 c
19 a bet
13 c l1 -12
13 c w +12
18 b l1 0
16 c l2 -12
35 c w +12
6 c w +36
1 c w +60
4 a l1 +48
24 b l2 +36
2 b w +60
28 b w +84
8 a l1 +72
35 c l2 +60
16 c w +84
0 l1 +72 wait
7 c
14 a
14 a
31 a bet
19 a w +96
4 a w +120
19 a w +144
18 b l1 +132
28 b w +156
22 a l1 +144
32 a w +168
16 c l1 +156
2 b l2 +144
33 c l3 +132 wait
7 c
36 a
10 b
22 a bet
10 b l1 +120
16 c l2 +108
26 c w +132
26 c w +156
32 a l1 +144
4 a w +168
21 b l1 +156
14 a l2 +144
19 a w +168
31 a w +192
27 c l1 +180
28 b l2 +168
23 b w +192
19 a l1 +180
23 b l2 +168
29 b w +192 64 spins
end test 33
64 spins = +192
max. down -12
max. up +192
Test 34 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait 3-5 spins after 3 L s
Numbers from Chovek69
35 c
24 b
28 b
16 c
9 a bet
10 b l1 -12
1 c l2 -24
32 a l3 -36 wait
13 c
20 c
29 b
28 b bet
10 b w -12
13 c l1 -24
13 c w 0
21 b l1 -12
34 c l2 -24
21 b l3 -36 wait
7 b
9 a
35 c
2 b bet
20 c l1 -48
36 a l2 -60
30 a w -36
4 a w -12
30 a w +12
5 b l1 0
2 b w + 24
8 a l1 +12
28 b l2 0
36 a l3 -12 wait
3 c
0 -
25 b
12 c
23 b bet
17 b w +12
21 b w +36
4 a l1 +24
28 b l2 +12
30 a l3 0 wait
6 c
33 c
13 c
31 a bet
15 a w +24
21 b l1 +12
16 c l2 0
31 a l3 -12 wait
1 c
4 a
33 c
18 b bet
34 c l1 -24
3 c w 0
10 b l1 -12
24 b w +12
13 c l1 0
22 a l2 -12
32 a w +12
21 b l1 0
4 a l2 -12
29 b l3 -24 wait
15 a
22 a
14 a bet
30 a w 0
23 b l1 -12
33 c l2 -24
32 a l3 -36 wait
29 b
0 -
10 b
15 a
12 c
15 a bet
22 a w -12
35 c l1 -24
1 c w 0
15 a l1 -12
20 c l2 -24
4 a l3 -36 wait
35 c
5 b
25 b
1 c bet
0 l1 -48 wait
7 c
19 a
3 c
24 b bet
5 b w -24
25 b w 0
6 c l1 -12
25 b l2 -24
7 b w 0
14 a l1 -12
4 a w +12
8 a w +36 100 spins
End test 34
100 spins = +36
max. down -60
max. up +36
Test 35 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait 3-5 spins after 3 L s
Numbers from Chovek69
23 b
33 c
21 b
22 a
12 c
11 a
33 c
26 c bet
2 b l1 -12
20 c l2 -24
8 a l3 -36 wait
11 a
33 c
19 a
11 a bet
11 a w -12
36 a w +12
29 b l1 0
34 c l2 -12
8 a l3 -24 wait
13 c
6 c
7 b
35 c bet
34 c w 0
34 c w +24
17 b l1 +12
30 a l2 0
29 b l3 -12 wait
32 a
16 c
20 c
22 a bet
18 b l1 -24
3 c l2 -36
32 a l3 -48 wait
18 b
16 c
26 c
25 b bet
20 c l1 -60
21 b l2 -72
11 a l3 -84 wait
21 b
3 c
10 b bet
5 b w -60
13 c l1 -72
19 a l2 -84
30 a w -60
16 c l1 -72
3 c w -48
19 a l1 -60
18 b l2 -72
27 c l3 -84 wait
19 a
26 c
21 b
28 b bet
6 c l1 -96
7 b l2 -108
7 b w -84
35 c l1 -96
10 b l2 -108
23 b w -84
11 a l1 -96
33 c l2 -108
23 b l3 -120 67 spins ( stop loss)
End test 35 (lost session)
67 spins = -120
max. up +24
Until now tested around 3500( only my tests) and still UP, flat bet.
Maybe better put the stop loss at -72 , and than play *virtual*
until the bad run is gone.
Test 36 ( 1A, flat bet the last to repeat)
With wait 3-5 spins after 3 L s
Numbers from Chovek69
25 b
36 a
7 b
22 a
23 b bet
12 c l1 -12
28 b l2 -24
28 b w 0
15 a l1 -12
33 c l2 -24
30 a l3 -36 wait
34 c
13 c
29 b
15 a bet
31 a w -12
30 a w +12
27 c l1 0
30 a l2 -12
0 l3 -24 wait
13 c
32 a
20 c
10 b bet
18 b w 0
28 b w +24
30 a l1 +12
21 b l2 0
18 b w +24
0 l1 wait
11 a
19 a
3 c
23 b bet
9 a l1 +12
20 c l2 0
5 b l3 -12 wait
18 b
6 c
8 a
17 b bet
33 c l1 -24
1 c w 0
32 a l1 -12
33 c l2 -24
16 c w 0
20 c w +24
4 a l1 +12
7 b l2 0
17 b w +24
33 c l1 +12
31 a l2 0
12 c l3 -12 wait
10 b
31 a
33 c
21 b bet
4 a l1 -24
13 c l2 -36
13 c w -12
31 a l1 -24
34 c l2 -36
17 b l3 -48 wait
26 c
30 a
31 a
9 a bet
9 a w -24
14 a w 0
15 a w +24
26 c l1 +12
23 b l2 0
5 b w +24
13 c l1 +12
17 b l2 0
9 a l3 -12 wait
28 b
13 c
29 b
32 a bet
14 a w +12
10 b l1 0
7 b w +24
25 b w +48
9 a l1 +36
4 a w +60
18 b l1 +48
9 a l2 +36
8 a w +60
11 a w +84
18 b l1 +72
17 b w +96
2 b w +120
36 a l1 +108
30 a w +132 95 spins
End test 36
95 spins = +132 win
max. down -48
max. up +132
I just wanted to pass by here to say THANK YOU Kattila for keeping the forum on the productive side.
It is noticed and appreciated.
Many thanks!
And I thanks to you Victor for this nice and good place to debate
roulette methods and systems. :thumbsup:
gracias amigo
I wish for more Kattilas and less Wendels... ::)
Kindly continue debating your WBG system in peace.
some more tests using dublinbet actuals. method as at 1A stopping at 3 losses, waiting for virtual win trigger.
session 1:
41 spins
end profit -144 units - stop loss
max up 24 units
session 2:
129 spins
end profit +96 units
max down 96 units
session 3:
47 spins
end profit +120 units
max down n/a
session 4:
89 spins
end profit -144 units - stop loss
max up 48 units
session 5:
138 spins
end profit +24 units
max down -48 units
max up 132 units at spin 31
i might try this another way now. not just blindly testing spins, but playing as you would in a casino and protecting profit.
maybe a lower stop loss and also a lower win target. most session do show profit at some point before they lose.
Personally I would be happy with stopping at +24 - this is a decent amount if it is winning daily, and of course, the unit amount would be different for everybody.
Nearly every test that I've seen so far has reached this mark.
I would set a stop/loss of -72, leaving you 4 games to catch up on your profits, which going by this testing, shouldn't be too much trouble.
I know its difficult when many sessions end up 100+, but it could be a long run winner and save the big drops
cheers
BW
Kattila,
I've noticed this thread showing great results in your tests.
Using RX I have tested Wiesbaden spins from July 1 to 15, table 8. There was no particular reason to choose table 8.
In this post, I'll show the spins from the first session, so that you can see it is being played properly.
Then, in a following post, I'll post the results of all 15 sessions. It will be the bankroll graph, which also shows high, low, and spins.
I think the graphs may be more useful than just results. You may notice something you wouldn't easily see with just numbers.
Although it's probably more than you need, each session will show approx. 200 spins, if that many are available.
I must warn you that the results are not as good as your testing. They are more like ewarwoowar's.
Here is the spin result from the first test. The rule is wait for 4 spins, to begin, after 3 losses, and after a zero.
[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal. ,Bet Layout
1,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,0,
2,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,0,
3,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,0,
4,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,0,
5,13,Bet,12,36,-12,24,24,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
6,35,Bet,12,36,-12,24,48,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
7,18,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,36,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
8,24,Bet,12,36,-12,24,60,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
9,16,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,48,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
10,24,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,36,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
11,36,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,24,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
12,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
13,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
14,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
15,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
16,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
17,28,Bet,12,36,-12,24,48,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
18,35,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,36,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
19,26,Bet,12,36,-12,24,60,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
20,17,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,48,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
21,34,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,36,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
22,10,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,24,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
23,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
24,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
25,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
26,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
27,6,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,12,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
28,5,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,0,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
29,5,Bet,12,36,-12,24,24,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
30,11,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,12,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
31,23,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,0,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
32,29,Bet,12,36,-12,24,24,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
33,27,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,12,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
34,18,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,0,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
35,23,Bet,12,36,-12,24,24,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
36,32,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,12,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
37,33,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,0,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
38,12,Bet,12,36,-12,24,24,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
39,33,Bet,12,36,-12,24,48,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
40,9,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,36,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
41,29,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,24,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
42,5,Bet,12,36,-12,24,48,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
43,25,Bet,12,36,-12,24,72,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
44,9,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,60,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
45,13,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,48,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
46,7,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,36,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
47,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,36,
48,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,36,
49,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,36,
50,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,36,
51,11,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,24,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
52,3,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,12,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
53,1,Bet,12,36,-12,24,36,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
54,14,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,24,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
55,33,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,12,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
56,6,Bet,12,36,-12,24,36,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
57,19,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,24,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
58,26,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,12,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
59,12,Bet,12,36,-12,24,36,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
60,5,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,24,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
61,6,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,12,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
62,30,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,0,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
63,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,0,
64,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,0,
65,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,0,
66,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,0,
67,0,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,-12,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
68,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,-12,
69,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,-12,
70,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,-12,
71,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,-12,
72,2,Bet,12,36,-12,24,12,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
73,21,Bet,12,36,-12,24,36,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
74,0,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,24,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
75,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
76,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
77,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
78,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,24,
79,11,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,12,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
80,8,Bet,12,36,-12,24,36,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
81,15,Bet,12,36,-12,24,60,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
82,22,Bet,12,36,-12,24,84,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
83,36,Bet,12,36,-12,24,108,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
84,8,Bet,12,36,-12,24,132,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
85,0,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,120,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
86,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,120,
87,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,120,
88,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,120,
89,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,120,
90,27,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,108,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
91,22,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,96,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
92,25,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,84,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
93,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,84,
94,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,84,
95,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,84,
96,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,84,
97,36,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,72,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
98,31,Bet,12,36,-12,24,96,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
99,7,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,84,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
100,6,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,72,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
101,6,Bet,12,36,-12,24,96,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
102,0,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,84,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
103,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,84,
104,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,84,
105,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,84,
106,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,84,
107,14,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,72,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
108,13,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,60,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
109,16,Bet,12,36,-12,24,84,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
110,27,Bet,12,36,-12,24,108,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
111,8,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,96,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
112,22,Bet,12,36,-12,24,120,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
113,1,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,108,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
114,36,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,96,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
115,30,Bet,12,36,-12,24,120,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
116,30,Bet,12,36,-12,24,144,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
117,35,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,132,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
118,6,Bet,12,36,-12,24,156,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
119,25,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,144,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
120,29,Bet,12,36,-12,24,168,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
121,14,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,156,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
122,22,Bet,12,36,-12,24,180,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
123,25,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,168,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
124,22,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,156,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
125,3,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,144,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
126,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,144,
127,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,144,
128,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,144,
129,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,144,
130,20,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,132,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
131,28,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,120,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
132,3,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,108,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
133,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,108,
134,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,108,
135,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,108,
136,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,108,
137,17,Bet,12,36,-12,24,132,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
138,4,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,120,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
139,28,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,108,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
140,35,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,96,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
141,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,96,
142,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,96,
143,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,96,
144,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,96,
145,18,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,84,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
146,26,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,72,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
147,32,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,60,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
148,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,60,
149,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,60,
150,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,60,
151,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,60,
152,28,Bet,12,36,-12,24,84,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
153,24,Bet,12,36,-12,24,108,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
154,6,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,96,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
155,16,Bet,12,36,-12,24,120,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
156,1,Bet,12,36,-12,24,144,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
157,9,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,132,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
158,25,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,120,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
159,5,Bet,12,36,-12,24,144,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
160,21,Bet,12,36,-12,24,168,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
161,26,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,156,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
162,5,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,144,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
163,12,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,132,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
164,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,132,
165,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,132,
166,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,132,
167,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,132,
168,3,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,120,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
169,10,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,108,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
170,30,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,96,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
171,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,96,
172,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,96,
173,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,96,
174,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,96,
175,33,Bet,12,36,-12,24,120,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
176,27,Bet,12,36,-12,24,144,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
177,0,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,132,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
178,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,132,
179,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,132,
180,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,132,
181,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,132,
182,2,Bet,12,36,-12,24,156,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
183,29,Bet,12,36,-12,24,180,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
184,32,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,168,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
185,14,Bet,12,36,-12,24,192,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
186,17,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,180,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
187,26,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,168,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
188,2,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,156,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
189,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,156,
190,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,156,
191,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,156,
192,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,156,
193,21,Bet,12,36,-12,24,180,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
194,7,Bet,12,36,-12,24,204,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
195,30,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,192,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
196,36,Bet,12,36,-12,24,216,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
197,32,Bet,12,36,-12,24,240,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
198,28,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,228,1 : 4,8,9,11,14,15,19,22,30,31,32,36
199,16,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,216,1 : 2,5,7,10,17,18,21,23,24,25,28,29
200,10,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,204,1 : 1,3,6,12,13,16,20,26,27,33,34,35
201,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,204,
202,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,204,
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First, Thanks Mikeo for your effort to help us.
remember:
- this is only testing, when play for real , and lost a session (-120), we take
a break that day, or play later, so we not play right after the loss(-120)
-a session can be between 30 spins until approx. 200 spins( even more),
depending if we reached or not our goal (each one can have your goal)
-remember stopp loss at -120 ( each one can have your stop loss).
Your sessions:
1. +240 at spin 197, max. down -12
2. -120 STOP LOSS, max. up +24
3. -120 stop loss , max. up not
4. +144 at spin 36 , max. down -60
5. -120 stop loss , max. up +84
6. +120 at spin 92 , max. down -120 but at spin 204
7. -120 stop loss , max. up +60
8. -120 stop loss , max. up +72
9. -120 stop loss , max. up not
10. +276 at spin 193, max. down -84
11. -120 stop loss , max. up +48
12. +216 at spin 178, max. down -60
13. +204 at spin 79 , max. down -96
14. -120 stop loss , max. up +72
15. -120 stop loss , max. up +60
Approx. results: not so bad Mikeo
-1080 lost , at stop loss -120
+1200 win , or less , this depends by the winning goal
The most important is the Human Decision , to decide when
is the moment to stop loss or stop win, when we play for real.
Most of the time we have to play virtual, than when belive we
have a opportunity start to play for real, but the true is we never
know what is next , bad or good session.
Sometimes in only 30-50 spins we are at +250,
and sometimes in only 40-70 spins we are at -120.
But,
Example, if we reached +120 , or +144 we can try to win more( +204 or 252),
but if we see is going down , we can stop than at +108, +96 , right ?
This is human decision !
Or if we are at -72 ( or before) stop and play virtual, wait because the
winning streak seems to come together.
Keep testing guys, maybe we find a good trigger, the right moment
to enter or exit the game.
good luck
Thanks Kattila,
In creating the graphs, I couldn't help but notice the upward and downward swings in the bankroll balance. The graphs look very similar to stock charts.
If there were a way to predict these movements, it would prove beneficial.
Michael
I say play virtual until you get -100. Then start playing for real. You just might get an upswing. If you miss out on wins--painful--yes. But at least you didn't lose.
Just a thought
KEEL
Here is the complete method
See Groups( A, B, C) each
individual group have 3 groups/ 4 numbers at the same distance.
There are others 3 sets of groups A,B,C, at the same distance like the
groups i have posted. What is really matter is the distance, not the numbers.
You allready know the First Group ( A,B,C)
In this case the 0 is out.
European wheel
A. 32,15,19,4/36,11,30,8/14,31,9,22
B. 21,2,25,17/23,10,5,24/ 18,29,7,28
C. 34,6,27,13/16,33,1,20/12,35,3,2
Second Groups
The number 32 is out( the 32 is the 0 in this case)
A. 15,19,4,21/11,30,8,23/31,9,22,18
B. 2,25,17,34/10,5,24,16/29,7,28,12
C. 6,27,13,36/33,1,20,14/35,3,26,0
Third Groups(number 15 out = 0)
A. 19,4,21,2/30,8,23,10/9,22,18,29
B. 25,17,34,6/5,24,16,33/7,28,12,35
C. 27,13,36,11/1,20,14,31/3,26,0,32
Fourth groups (number 19 out = 0)
A. 4,21,2,25/8,23,10,5/22,18,29,7
B. 17,34,6,27/24,16,33,1/28,12,35,3
C. 13,36,11,30/20,14,31,9/26,0,32,15
We have to track all this together, than bet on the one
which have the more virtual losses.But if can , have to
keep track all groups.
The trigger will be something like this:
Long bad run than bet at AA or BB or CC
abcbcbbacabccabcacbccabacbaabcaa...bet now, so groups where don t appear
EX: aaabbcccaabbbbbbaccbcbbbbaaa
or bbccaabcccaabccccbaccc etc.........
I have attached an excel file, for a better track (for all the four sets of groups)
Example :
NR / Group 1 Group 2 Group 3 Group 4
24 b b b b
5 b b b a
1 c c c b
2 b b a a
6 c c b b
24 b b b b
30 a a a c
35 c c b b
17 b b b b
35 c c b b
15 a a 0 c
24 b b b b
2 b b a a
10 b b a a
9 a a a c
3 c c c b
17 b b b b
23 b a a a
3 c c c b
3 c c c b
0 0 c c c
28 b b b b
11 a a c c
7 b b b a
30 a a a c
26 c c c c
8 a a a a
This is a bad run for all groups (only groups 3 looks better)
Keep tracking until remain one than bet.
If remain two , choose one and start to bet.
We have more chances to win now, because we
have more sets of groups from where to choose. Agree or not ?
good luck
I will open a new topic in Roulette and Gambling Framework
trying to track all four groups together and try to find good triggers
This method stay as the original with the first group only.
Was tested by Kattila, Ewarwoowar and Mikeo , around 9000 spins,
and still UP+ , flat bet. Yes there is bad sessions too, it is normal,
but we find more good sessions than bad ones.
When play for real, I recommand play virtual until -72 (or -96).
The method tested:
12 numbers/3 groups , numbers 0 is out
European wheel
A. 32,15,19,4/36,11,30,8/14,31,9,22
B. 21,2,25,17/23,10,5,24/ 18,29,7,28
C. 34,6,27,13/16,33,1,20/12,35,3,26
American wheel
A. 28,9,30,11,15,3,24,36,19,31,18,6
B. 11,7,20,32,13,1,27,10,21,33,16,4
C. 17,5,22,34,25,29,12,8,23,35,14,2
This groups tend to go in series like AABBBACCBBBAACCBCCCCCCBAABBBBB
most of the time (not allways), but enough to win more than loss.
Because of the distance between numbers and groups.
How to play, and rules :
Bet only flat bet 3 times (1,1,1), 1 euro/$ per number , 12 numbers ( one group)
Also can start from 0,20 per number, or 0,50.
Way 1.
After 3 LLL wait 3-5 spins , than bet again.
Bet the last group to repeat.
Way 2.
First wait trigger AA or BB or CC, than start to bet the last group spun.
Allways bet the last group, so bet the last group to repeat.
After three losses L1, L2, L3 , wait the new trigger AA or BB or CC, than bet
the last group to repeat
When appear 0 stop game , and wait new trigger.
stop-loss at -120 euro /$, my personal stop-loss, you can change it.
Stop win when you reached your target ( +72, or +120, or even +300 or more)
You will find some freaky sessions , like -84 , -96, or even -120 ( stop-loss, lost session)
but will win more sessions than loss.
When play for real, I recommand play virtual until -72 (or -96), than bet.
I will keep testing when I have the time.
Cheers.
not had much time to devote to this, this week. i'll look at it again over the weekend and post more results.
cheers.
another few sessions. again results not too good for me, testing this way.
method as at 1A, stopping at 3 losses starting again after a vw trigger, using db actuals.
session 1:
31 spins
end profit +48 units
max down -72 units
session 2:
32 spins
end profit +60 units
max down -72 units
session 3:
57 spins
end profit -120 units -stop loss
max up n/a
session 4:
29 spins
end profit +60 units
max down -12 units
session 5:
77 spins
end profit +60 units
max down -84 units
session 6:
90 spins
end profit +60 units
max down -60 units
session 7:
73 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up +36 units at spin 7
session 8:
23 spins
end profit +72 units
max down -12 units
session 9:
20 spins
end profit -120 units -stop loss
max up n/a
session 10:
79 spins
end profit -120 units -stop loss
max up n/a
session 11:
65 spins
end profit -120 units -stop loss
max up 12 units
session 12:
7 spins
end profit +60 units
max down n/a
session 13:
53 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up n/a
session 14:
14 spins
end profit +72 units
max down n/a
mixed results, some good sessions, some bad. there's something about this method, but we definitely need a tweak or two.
cheers
Yes this need some good trigger. Until now i have better results with
wait 3-5 spins after 3 LLL s. Why? I am not sure. Maybe because you
use AA, BB, CC as triggers, and i use this groups as opportunities.
Ex:
A
B
A
C
B bet now ( I bet)
C
C bet now ( you bet) , here i am at +12
A here you are at -12, i am at 0
A here i am +24, you are +12
just an example, there are more situation where is better
with trigger, and others is better with wait 3-5 spins only.
Start new tests.Wait trigger after 3 LLL.
If your win goal is around +60 (+72), stop-loss at -72(-84)
If your win goal is high (around 200, or more ), stop-loss at -120.
When play for real, can play virtual until -72, or more.
Session 1 , +192 win.
session 2, lost session( -120).
session 3, +120 win , max. down -60
may i know during those sessions are you using all the triggers 1a 2a 1b 2b?
Hi Weddings.
All the sessions tested until now was only way 1A. flat bet,
I tested more the original (after 3Ls wait 3-5 spins, than bet again),
and other (by Ewarwoowar ) after 3 Ls wait another trigger AA, or BB, or CC
and bet again.
My HUMAN DECISION rules :
First before play, play virtual and enter game only
when see the things go good.
Start real play only when you up virtual +24, +36.
For Bad sessions.
When we see is going down -72,-84(for real), stop and play virtual,and :
- if goes down again virtual from -72 first time(real game -72),
to -120(or more) second time(virtual game), End session at -72.
- if goes up virtual, start to bet again and if win from -72 to -24 still bet
until break even, and if again tend to go down End session at -48,-60.
For Good sessions:
When we reached +120 ( +150),stop and start play virtual, but:
- if go down virtual , wait until tend to go up ,and Bet again, now if go down
again stop at +96, +84 End session.
- if go up virtual , bet again for real ,now if go up good (stop when you whant, ex.+204),
but if after go up from +120 to ex: +168, than start again to go down to +132,
+120 , we End session at +120 .
Still have good results testing that way,- human decision-.
when I have the time I will post some sessions.
Good luck.
session 1 (using same rules + human decision rules)
25 b Virtual play(enter for real only at +24, or +36)
4 a
33 c
34 c trigger
10 b l1 -12
9 a l2 -24
30 a w 0
28 b l1 -12
12 c l2 -24
24 b l3 -36 wait
5 b trigger
1 c l1 -48
2 b l2 -60
6 c l3 -72 wait
24 b
30 a
35 c
17 b
35 c
15 a
24 b
2 b trigger
10 b w -48
9 a l1 -60
3 c l2 -72
17 b l3 -84 wait
23 b trigger
3 c l1 -96
3 c w -84
0 l1 -96 wait
28 b
11 a
7 b
30 a
26 c
8 a
11 a trigger
32 a w -72
31 a w -48
12 c l1 -60
9 a l2 -72
28 b l3 -84 wait
18 b trigger
26 c l1 -96
22 a l2 -108
18 b l3 -120
end session 1 , Virtual session , not lose
Session 2
21 b Virtual play
9 a
25 b
8 a
35 c
24 b
35 c
17 b
31 a
31 a trigger
24 b l1 -12
2 b w +12
12 c l1 0
6 c w +24 Start real play !
24 b l1 -12
34 c l2 -24
35 c w 0
13 c w +24
9 a l1 +12
24 b l2 0
27 c l3 -12 wait
6 c trigger
5 b l1 -24
5 b w 0
3 c l1 -12
6 c w +12
1 c w +36
13 c w +60
13 c w +84
8 a l1 +72
32 a w +96
33 c l1 +84
13 c w +108
16 c w +132
16 c w +156
25 b l1 +144 stop at +144, now play virtual
10 b trigger start virtual play
15 a l1 +132
7 c l2 +120
31 a l3 +108 wait
6 c
32 a
33 c
15 a goes down ....
28 b
15 a
29 b
29 b trigger
32 c l1 +120
29 b l2 +108
15 a l3 +96 wait
5 b
13 c
5 b
24 b trigger
1 c l1 +84
4 a l2 +72
20 c l3 +60 wait
End session 2 (not important numbers of spins)
This is going down virtual, so
session 2 = +144 win
Session 3 (see rules reply 112)
31 a start virtual play
3 c
9 a
32 a trigger
15 a w +24 start for real
15 a w +24
27 c l1 +12
7 b l2 0
9 a l3 -12 wait
8 a trigger
6 c l1 -24
33 c w 0
1 c w +24
0 l1 +12 wait
3 c
33 c trigger
6 c w +36
11 a l1 +24
25 b l2 +12
21 b w +36
26 c l1 +24
23 b l2 +12
29 b w +36
6 c l1 +24
16 c w +48
34 c w +72
16 c w +96
11 a l1 +84
34 c l2 +72
3 c w +96
34 c w +120
22 a l1 +108
22 a w +132
15 a w +156
4 a w +180
22 a w +204
32 a w +228
4 a w +252
29 b l1 +240 Stop
end session 3
max. down for real , not
max. up +252
session 3 = +240 win
Session 4 (see rules reply 112)
1 c virtual play
20 c trigger
7 b l1 -12
27 b w +12
14 a l1 0
9 a +24 start real play !
20 c l1 -12
22 a l2 -24
27 c l3 -48 wait
16 c trigger
9 a l1 -60
31 a w -36
23 b l1 -48
16 c l2 -60
27 c w -36
36 a l1 -48
36 a w -24
6 c l1 -36
1 c w -12
1 c w +12
10 b l1 0
20 c l2 -12
24 b l3 -24 wait
30 a
2 b
2 b trigger
18 b w 0
19 a l1 -12
9 a w +12
2 b l1 0
1 c l2 -12
33 c w +12
33 c w +36
0 l1 +24 wait
14 a
6 c
15 a
30 a trigger
5 b l1 +12
1 c l2 0
33 c w +24
15 a l1 +12
34 c l2 0
35 c w +24
30 a l1 +12
1 c l2 0
26 c w +24
18 b l1 +12
20 c l2 0
5 b l3 -12 wait
3 c
0 0
35 c
33 c trigger
9 a l1 -24
33 c l2 -36
31 a l3 -48 wait
13 c
29 b
33 c
23 b
21 b trigger
34 c l1 -60
0 l2 -72 STOP, play virtual
5 b start virtual
16 c
30 a
32 a tr.
6 c l1 -84
0 l2 -96 wait
29 b
8 a
15 a tr.
21 c l1 -108
14 a l2 -120
15 a w -96
23 b l1 -108
7 b w -84
28 b w -60
4 a l1 -72
34 c l2 -84
28 b l3 -96 wait
20 c
11 a
10 b
20 c
16 c tr.
2 b l1 -108
2 b w -84
24 b w -60
31 a l1 -72
7 b l2 -84
4 a l3 -96 wait
13 c
33 c tr.
18 b l1 -108
6 c l2 -120
19 a l3 -132 stop virtual play
real play -72
virtual play -132
session 4 = -72 lost session
Session 5 (see rules reply 112)
6 c virtual play
0 0
9 a
8 a trigger
25 b l1 -12
10 b w +12
1 c l1 0
33 c w +24 start real play
8 a l1 -12
22 a w +12
24 b l1 0
21 b w +24
13 c l1 +12
24 b l2 0
13 c l3 -12 wait
11 a
33 c
4 a
0 0
22 a
13 c
24 b
29 b trigger
28 b w +12
35 c l1 0
16 c w +24
15 a l1 +12
12 c l2 0
33 c w +24
23 b l1 +12
21 b w +36
7 b w +60
26 c l1 +48
14 a l2 +36
7 b l3 +24 wait
1 c
26 c tr.
29 b l1 +12
31 a l2 0
24 b l3 -12 wait
29 b trigger
23 b w +12
15 a l1 0
1 c l2 -12
15 a l3 -24 wait
24 b
31 a
12 c
12 c tr.
20 c w 0
34 c w +24
15 a l1 +12
19 a w +36
4 a w +60
20 c l1 +48
28 b l2 +36
20 c l3 +24 wait
31 a
13 c
7 b
14 a
5 a tr.
21 b l1 +12
1 c l2 0
10 b l3 -12 wait
2 b tr.
18 b w +12
30 a l1 0
21 b l2 -12
17 b w +12
19 a l1 0
5 b l2 -12
1 c l3 -24 wait
15 a
1 c
32 a
3 c
11 a
1 c
16 c tr.
14 a l1 -36
22 a w -12
26 c l1 -24
22 a l2 -36
16 c l3 -48 wait
3 c tr.
36 a l1 -60
14 a w -36
10 b l1 -48
2 b w -24
28 b w 0
18 b w +24
8 a l1 +12
22 a w +36 stop
Up / down session , decided to stop at +36
max. up +60
max. down -60
session 5 = +36
Session 6 (see rules reply 112)
1 c virtual play
32 a
21 b
11 a
5 b
32 a
4 a trigger
33 c l1 -12
18 b l2 -24
19 a l3 -36 wait
32 a trigger
8 a w -12
21 b l1 -24
16 c l2 -36
8 a l3 -48 wait
15 a tr.
34 c l1 -60
25 b l2 -72
19 a l3 -84 wait
25 b
19 a
22 a tr.
20 c l1 -96
5 b l2 -108
15 a l3 -120 wait
1 c
9 a
20 c
27 c tr.
2 b l1 -132
33 c l2 -144
24 b l3 -156 stop virtual play
-156 virtual play
session 6 = not lose = 0
Session 7 (see rules reply 112)
33 c virtual play
25 b
21 b trigger
36 a l1 -12
31 a w +12
31 a w +24 start real play
4 a w +24
31 a w +48
10 b l1 +36
30 a l2 +24
34 c l3 +12 wait
22 a
21 b
4 a
23 b
27 c
11 a
9 a tr.
0 l1 0 wait
4 a
21 b
35 c
30 a
1 c
16 c tr.
5 b l1 -12
12 c l2 -24
15 a l3 -36 wait
34 c
33 c tr.
31 a l1 -48
19 a w -24
1 c l1 -36
11 a l2 -48
30 a w -24
12 c l1 -36
6 c w -12
8 a l1 -24
11 a w 0
36 a w +24
12 c l1 +12
28 b l2 0
23 b w +24
30 a l1 +12
22 a w +36
22 a w +60
32 a w +84
36 a w +108
18 b l1 +96
3 c l2 +84
1 c w +108
10 b l1 +96
35 c l2 +84
1 c w +108
33 c w +132
7 b l1 +120 stop at +120, now play virtual
0 l2 +108 wait ,start virtual game !
16 c
29 b
24 b trigger
13 c l1 +96
3 c w +120
17 b l1 +108
26 c l2 +96
18 b l3 +84 wait
18 b tr.
18 b w +108
33 c l1 +96
6 c w +120
23 b l1 +108
16 c l2 +96
26 c w +120
26 c w +144
28 b l1 +132
11 a l2 +120
0 l3 +108 wait
6 c
8 a
35 c
30 a
19 a tr.
13 c l1 +96
27 c w +120
34 c w +144 tend to go up
29 b l1 +132
12 c l2 +120
10 b l3 +108 wait
26 c
27 c tr.
34 c w +132 Start real play from +120 !
9 a l1 +108
31 a w +132
12 c l1 +120
36 a l2 +108
22 a w +132
30 a w +156
4 a w +180
19 a w +204
24 b l1 +192 Stop.
end session 7
max. down real -48
max. up real +204
session 7 = +192 win
Remember we have the other 3 set of groups, too, and give the
same results (see at framework , wbg/ all groups).
Another ways what i will test , with progression:
Bet the last to repeat , or the second to repeat, after wait
certain triggers, than bet with progression, maybe +1 at win,
and if lose stay on the same, any idea welcome...... :)
well done kattila, i admire your perseverence with this.
ill do some more testing with the tweaks, see how it stacks up.
cheers.
Thanks amigo , i am sure you will have better results.
Session 8 (see rules reply 122)
29 b virtual play
10 b trigger
20 c l1 -12
22 a l2 -24
22 a w 0
5 b l1 -12
13 c l2 -24
1 c w 0
36 a l1 -12
19 a w +12
15 a w +36 start real play
5 b l1 -12
9 a l2 -24
17 b l3 -36 wait
14 a
35 c
30 a
34 c
0 0
27 c
22 c trigger
17 b l1 -48
6 c l2 -60
31 a l3 -72 Stop at -72
27 c Start virtual play
2 b
25 b trigger
30 a l1 -84
30 a w -60
11 a w -36
12 c l1 -48
23 b l2 -60
35 c l3 -72 wait
22 a
17 b
13 c
2 b
8 a
0 0
26 c
26 c tr.
21 b l1 -84
0 l2 -96 wait
12 c
0 0
12 c
26 c tr.
27 c w -72
4 a l1 -84
20 c l2 -96
27 c w -72
19 a l1 -84
6 c l2 -96
13 c w -72
11 a l1 -84
22 a w -60
35 c l1 -72
15 a l2 -84
35 c l3 -96 wait
24 b
9 a
9 a tr.
16 c l1 -108
23 b l2 -120
17 b w -96
5 b w -72
26 c l1 -84
15 a l2 -96
21 b l3 -108 wait
29 b trigger
5 b w -84
31 a l1 -96
13 c l2 -108
3 c w -84
12 c w -60
32 a l1 -72
23 b l2 -84
29 b w -60
0 l1 -72 wait
36 a
22 a tr.
1 c l1 -84
12 c w -60
29 b l1 -72
7 b w -48
17 b w -24
35 c l1 -36
18 b l2 -48
35 c l3 -60 wait
32 c
28 b
15 a
35 c
2 b
31 a
3 c
19 a
20 c
10 b
28 b tr.
12 c l1 -72
15 a l2 -84
32 a w -60
16 c l1 -72
23 b l2 -84
33 c l3 -96 wait
11 a
14 a tr.
23 b l1 -108
9 a l2 -120 Stop virtual play
End session 8 = -72 for real (lost session)
-120 virtual
Session 9 (see rules reply 122)
31 a virtual play
4 a
33 c
23 b
9 a
30 a trigger
30 a w +24 Start real play
14 a w +24
10 b l1 +12
5 b w +36
21 b w +60
5 b w +84
28 b w +108
28 b w +132
26 c l1 +120
31 a l2 +108
30 a w +132
32 a w +156
9 a w +180
9 a w +204
24 b l1 +192 Stop at +192
34 c l2 +180 start virtual play
5 b l3 +168 wait
3 c
17 b
25 b tr.
9 a l1 +156
10 b l2 +144
21 b w +168
3 c l1 +156
12 c w +180
0 l1 +168 wait
35 c
29 b
26 c
17 b
8 a
27 c
11 a
23 b
20 c
7 b
23 b tr.
28 b w +192
25 b w +216
30 a l1 +204
27 c l2 +192
29 b l3 +180 wait
22 a
27 b
19 a
32 a tr.
35 c l1 +168
23 b l2 +156
18 b w +180
13 c l1 +168
34 c w +192
32 a l1 +180
33 c l2 +168
8 a l3 +156 wait
25 b
7 b tr.
16 c l1 +144 stop virtual play
sesion 9 = +192 real
+144 virtual
Session 10 (see rules reply 122)
33 c virtual play
14 a
1 c
15 a
20 c
27 c trigger
29 b l1 -12
9 a l2 -24
25 b l3 -36 wait
6 c
33 c tr.
29 b l1 -48
2 b w -24
29 b w 0
28 b w +24 Start real play
28 b w +24
12 c l1 +12
19 a l2 0
26 c l3 -12 wait
3 c tr.
2 b l1 -24
17 b w 0
0 l1 -12 wait
35 c
28 b
13 c
27 c tr.
3 c w +12
14 a l1 0
23 b l2 -12
24 b w +12
36 a l1 0
15 a w +12
1 c l1 0
36 a l2 -12
7 b l3 -24 wait
9 a
29 b
32 a
32 a tr.
17 b l1 -36
29 b w -12
22 a l1 -24
26 c l2 -36
9 a l3 -48 wait
31 a tr.
33 c l1 -60
26 c w -36
9 a l1 -48
35 c l2 -60
12 c w -36
26 c w -12
2 b l1 -24
13 c l2 -36
23 b l3 -48 wait
17 b tr.
15 a l1 -60
13 c l2 -72 Stop at -72
35 c w -48 Start virtual play
17 b l1 -60
2 b w -36
36 a l1 -48
12 c l2 -60
34 c w -36
14 a l1 -48
15 a w -24
8 a w 0
5 b l1 -12
17 b w +12
22 a l1 0
32 a w +24 Start real play (-72)
10 b l1 -84
28 b w -60
3 c l1 -72
29 b l2 -84
25 b w -60
30 a l1 -72 Stop real game (-72)
35 c l2 -84 Start virtual
4 a l3 -96 wait
27 b
1 c
35 c tr.
23 b l1 -108 going down...........
35 c l2 -120
24 b l3 -132 wait
2 b tr.
32 a l1 -144
10 b l2 -156
3 c l3 -168 Stop virtual at -168
End session 10 = -72 real (lost session)
-168 virtual
Session 11 (see rules reply 122)
22 a virtual play
4 a trigger
29 b l1 -12
25 b w +12
20 c l1 0
19 a l2 -12
8 a w +12
33 c l1 0
18 b l2 -12
32 a l3 -24 wait
12 c
8 a
34 c
17 b
21 b tr.
15 a l1 -36
2 b l2 -48
17 b w -24
27 c l1 -36
35 c w -12
34 c w +12
3 c w +36 Start real play
8 a l1 -12
16 c l2 -24
6 c w 0
6 c w +24
17 b l1 +12
12 c l2 0
1 c w +24
26 c w +48
10 b l1 +36
21 b w +60
12 c l1 +48
21 b l2 +36
4 a l3 +24 wait
25 b
1 c
26 c tr.
30 a l1 +12
2 b l2 0
35 c l3 -12 wait
26 c tr.
4 a l1 -24
6 c l2 -36
15 a l3 -48 wait
21 b
14 a
25 b
7 b tr.
20 c l1 -60
18 b l2 -72 Stop at -72
32 a l3 -84 start virtual
8 a w -60
34 c l1 -72
32 a l2 -84
28 b l3 -96 wait
11 a
24 b
3 c
15 a
35 c
15 a
18 b
35 c
1 c tr.
15 a l1 -108
34 c l2 -120
23 b l3 -132 wait
21 b tr.
9 a l1 -144
36 a w -120
11 a w -96
2 b l1 -108
28 b w -84
24 b w -60
6 c l1 -72
26 c w -48
9 a l1 -60
19 a w -36
36 a w -12
31 a w +12
31 a w +36
13 c l1 +24 start real game (-72)
33 c w -48
11 a l1 -60
35 c l2 -72
6 c w -48
8 a l1 -60
11 a w -36
36 a w -12
21 b l1 0
7 b w +24
33 c l1 +12
8 a l2 0
4 a w +24
18 b l1 +12
9 a l2 0
17 b l3 -12 wait
32 a
14 a tr.
14 a w +12
28 b l1 0
11 a l2 -12
25 b l3 -24 wait
18 b tr.
10 b w 0 Stop real play
session 11 = break even
This is how have to enter or exit the game(real/virtual).
Almost always(during a bad session) could stop at +24 ( +36).
Session 12 (see rules reply 122)
24 b virtual play
7 b trigger
12 c l1 -12
35 c w +12
17 b l1 0
27 c l2 -12
31 a l3 -24 wait
4 a tr.
6 c l1 -36
33 c w -12
8 a l1 -24
20 c l2 -36
17 b l3 -48 wait
17 b tr.
15 a l1 -60
26 c l2 -72
24 b l3 -84 wait
2 b tr.
12 c l1 -96
23 b l2 -108
5 b w -84
29 b w -60
14 a l1 -72
23 b l2 -84
29 b w -60
10 b w -36
22 a l1 -48
25 b l2 -60
33 c l3 -72 wait
35 c trigger
34 c w -48
19 a l1 -60
11 a w -36
19 a w -12
33 c l1 -24
13 c w 0
24 b l1 -12
33 c l2 -24
24 b l3 -36 wait
10 b tr.
11 a l1 -48
35 c l2 -60
26 c w -36
31 a l1 -48
22 a w -24
5 b l1 -36
32 a l2 -48
35 c l3 -60 wait
19 a
21 b
28 b tr.
15 a l1 -72
16 c l2 -84
20 c w -60
22 a l1 -72
10 b l2 -84
3 c l3 -96 wait
4 a
0 0
6 c
12 c tr.
5 b l1 -108
25 b w -84
27 c l1 -96
16 c w -72
6 c w -48
29 b l1 -60
35 c l2 -72
14 a l3 -84 wait
19 a tr.
24 b l1 -96
9 a l2 -108
3 c l3 -120 stop virtual game
End session 12 = 0 no real play
never was at +24 (+36) to start the real game.
Total new tested sessions 12 ( around 1000 spins) = + 588
Session 13 (see rules reply 122/ page 9 )
18 b virtual play
0 0
35 c
17 b
10 b trigger
23 b w +24 start real play
14 a l1 +12
30 a w +36
6 c l1 +24
29 b l2 +12
6 c l3 0 wait
14 a
30 a tr.
16 c l1 -12
14 a l2 -24
32 a w 0
14 a w +24
24 b l1 +12
2 b w +36
1 c l1 +24
6 c w +48
15 a l1 +36
32 a w +60
18 b l1 +48
22 a l2 +36
14 a w +60
30 a w +84
36 a w +108
12 c l1 +96
11 a l2 +84
9 a w +108
18 b l1 +96
18 b w +120 Stop real at +120
27 c l1 +108 start virtual
29 b l2 +96
25 b w +120
27 c l1 +108
0 l2 +96 wait trigger
31 a
23 b
34 c
14 a
3 c
10 b
11 a
26 c
0 0
22 a
33 c
9 a
14 a tr.
25 b l1 +84
19 a l2 +72
22 a w +96
16 c l1 +84
33 c w +108
30 a l1 +96
23 b l2 +84
10 b w +108
27 c l1 +96
22 a l2 +84
0 l3 +72 wait
24 b
17 b tr.
30 a l1 +60
9 a w +84
11 a w +108
21 b l1 +96
26 c l2 +84
34 c w +108
31 a l1 +96
29 b l2 +84
2 b w +108
24 b w +132
13 c l1 +120
26 c w +144 Start real from +120 (tend to go up)
9 a l1 +108
11 a w +132
24 b l1 +120
26 c l2 +108
6 c w +132
1 c w +156
4 a l1 +144
0 0 l2 +132 wait
9 a
25 b
2 b tr.
31 a l1 +120
10 b l2 +108
25 b w +132
10 b w +156
11 a l1 +144
3 c l2 +132
5 b l3 +120 wait
30 a
7 b
17 b tr.
1 c l1 +108
16 c w +132
2 b l1 +120
19 a l2 +108
32 a w +132
11 a w +156
23 b l1 +144
6 c l2 +132
2 b l3 +120 wait
4 a
34 c
24 b
27 c
32 a
0 0
22 a
28 b
29 b tr.
18 b w +144
1 c l1 +132
10 b l2 +120
3 c l3 +108 wait
2 b
6 c
0 0
10 b
34 c
33 c tr.
4 a l1 +96
32 a w +120
14 a w +144
9 a w +168
27 c l1 +156
20 c w +180
20 c w +204
29 b l1 +192
29 b w +216
13 c l1 +204
9 a l2 +180
26 c l3 +168 wait
3 c trigger
6 c w +192
3 c w +216
16 c w +240
20 c w +264
20 c w +288
4 a l1 +276 Stop real session
session 13 = +276
max. down -24
Session 14 (see rules reply 122/ page 9 )
30 a virtual game
16 c
22 a
24 b
0 0
3 c
31 a
12 c
2 b
19 a
25 b
30 a
4 a trigger
0 l1 wait -12
20 c
4 a
34 c
1 c tr.
17 b l1 -24
13 c l2 -36
36 a l3 -48 wait
23 b
16 c
8 a
9 a tr.
1 c l1 -60
17 b l2 -72
24 b w -48
16 c l1 -60
6 c w -36
0 l1 -48 wait
16 c
31 a
20 c
0 0
20 c
7 b
30 a
16 c
16 c tr.
6 c w -24
12 c w 0
0 l1 -12 wait
23 b
18 b tr.
1 c l1 -24
28 b l2 -48
1 c l3 -60 wait
35 c tr.
31 a l1 -72
27 c l2 -84
29 b l3 -96 wait
14 a
36 a tr.
31 a w -72
21 b l1 -84
25 b w -60
35 c l1 -72
26 c w -48
21 b l1 -60
8 a l2 -72
33 c l3 -84 wait
8 a
18 b
0
0
22 a
22 a tr.
18 b l1 -96
16 c l2 -108
8 a l3 -120 stop virtual play
virtual session -120
End session 14 = no real play = 0
Session 15 (see rules reply 122/ page 9 )
17 b virtual play
11 a
2 b
22 a
6 c
1 c triggger
12 c w +24 Start real play
30 a l1 -12
21 b l2 -24
2 b w 0
21 b w +24
4 a l1 +12
2 b l2 0
19 a l3 -12 wait
10 b
18 b tr.
21 b w +12
3 c l1 0
21 b l2 -12
13 c l3 -24 wait
29 b
28 b tr.
11 a l1 -36
4 a w -12
36 a w +12
26 c l1 0
20 c w +24
19 a l1 +12
8 a w +36
8 a w +60
17 b l1 +48
4 a l2 +36
32 a w +60
27 c l1 +48
6 c w +72
23 b l1 +60
3 c l2 +48
31 a l3 +36 wait
24 b
8 a
31 a tr.
17 b l1 +24
28 b w +48
11 a l1 +36
0 l2 +24 wait
29 b
5 b tr.
18 b w +48
0 l1 +36 wait
7 b
32 a
16 c
18 b
19 a
29 b
26 c
29 b
15 a
22 a tr.
1 c l1 +24
34 c w +48
32 a l1 +36
19 a w +60
30 a w +84
3 c l1 +72
6 c w +96
34 c w +120
34 c w +144
27 c w +168
4 a l1 +156
14 a w +180
9 a w +204
11 a w +228
14 a w +252
27 c l1 +240 stop real session
See aaacccccaaaaaa... the :...comes in streaks
and the LLLLL , too.
session 15 = +240 win
max. down -36
After I ( and my budy Ewaarwowar)have tested this method in 3 different ways(triggers)
around 12000 live spins, and is still up flat bet,
I have no doubt I have a winner. In the long run I am not sure (xxxxxxxx.....spins).
If someone one to prove I am wrong , it is ok for me.
I will keep testing, but for my self, I will not post more examples.
The latest tests give in 15 sessions + 1104 .
If you have questions about how to apply the latest rules, I'm here to answer.
good luck and happy winnings
There was some writing mistakes, I made some corrections.
Sorry for my poor english....
WBG method (wheel based groups)
12 numbers/3 groups , numbers 0 is out
European wheel
A. 32,15,19,4/36,11,30,8/14,31,9,22
B. 21,2,25,17/23,10,5,24/ 18,29,7,28
C. 34,6,27,13/16,33,1,20/12,35,3,26
American wheel
A. 28,9,30,11,15,3,24,36,19,31,18,6
B. 11,7,20,32,13,1,27,10,21,33,16,4
C. 17,5,22,34,25,29,12,8,23,35,14,2
This groups tend to go in series like AABBBACCBBBAACCBCCCCCCBAABBBBB
most of the time (not allways), but enough to win more than loss.
Because of the distance between numbers and groups.
How to play, and rules :
Bet only flat bet 3 times (1,1,1), 1 euro/$ per number , 12 numbers ( one group)
Also can start from 0,20 per number, or 0,50.
First wait trigger AA or BB or CC, than start to bet the last group spun.
Allways bet the last group, so bet the last group to repeat.
After three losses L1, L2, L3 , wait the new trigger AA or BB or CC, than bet
the last group to repeat
When appear 0 stop game , and wait new trigger.
stop-loss at -120 euro /$, my personal stop-loss, you can change it.
Stop win when you reached your target ( +72, or +120, or even +300 or more)
You will find some freaky sessions , like -84 , -96, or even -120 ( stop-loss, lost session)
but will win more sessions than loss.
My HUMAN DECISION ( tweaks):
First before play, play virtual and enter game only
when see the things go good.
Start real play only when you are up virtual +24, +36.
For Bad sessions.
When we see is going down -72,-84(for real), stop and play virtual,and :
- if goes down again Virtual from -72 at -120 or more ,can End session at -72, Or :
- if goes down Virtual until -120 or more, but than Tend to go up, enter real play from that -72, and
If still lose ,we stop at the second stop-lose -120 (real), and if Win try at least to stop at -36, -24, 0.
For Good sessions:
When we reached +120 ( +150),stop and start play virtual, but:
- if go down virtual , wait until tend to go up ,and Bet again, now if go down
again stop at +96, +84(+120) End session.
- if go up virtual , bet again for real ,now if go up good (stop when you whant, ex.+204),
but if after go up virtual from +120 to ex: +168 , start real play, but if we lose from
+120 real until +84, +96 , end session.
Remember:
Also can start from 0,20 per number, or 0,50.
Good luck and happy winnings.
What do you think, can this work on rng? Do you think this can work with the dozens? Some people think wheel sectors do not make a bit of difference.
KEEL
RNG i really don t know, have to check, but i belive will no work.
I have tried with the dozens and do not work.
it is a big difference between this groups and the dozens,
just try to see where land the ball each time looking from the last
number spun.
I already play this (online) at 0,50 per number,
and until now it is ok for me.
I know sometimes have to play only virtual before play
but worth the wait.
(Full system at reply 130).
cheers
Hi Katt
Im very impressed with all your testing !
Ive been testing too and have had positive results :thumbsup:
Now Im gonna try with Real Money !
Ive found the best results are wait 3-5 spins after LLL
Whats your final opinion on your Trigger now ure usin real money ? Virtual win or wait 3-5 spins after LLL ?
I will keep you fully updated with my results :thumbsup:
One final thing, never apologise for your English. Your English is way better than my Spanish/Italian etc etc any day ! So good on ya :thumbsup:
Cheers bud :)
Okkkk 1st Test
To some it will seem too short a test but I was playing with Real Money and I hit my Target +/-10%
Ok, to start I waited for a VL
Here follows what happened, betting at Ã,£1 Chip stake on each 12 Numbers
VL
5
7 W +24
3 L +12
26 W +36
26 W +60
5 L +48
2 W +72
2 W + 96
Target was +/- 100 Give or take 10%
Target achieved +96 Units :thumbsup:
My Plan is to play 3 Sessions a day
Will continue to Post my Real Results ;D
My final oppinion is use Trigger the virtual win, than start to bet,
But don t forget to play virtual, until you are up +24(+36) Virtual,
than start real play, see tweaks and also see the last 15 sessions
how i play.
Make your own target to win , and your own stop lose
if you wish.
You were just lucky twister. Try it when the wheel is in a bad mood .
Kingspin for that situation(bad mood ) we have the virtual play
and the stop lose (see rules, tweaks).
Maybe lucky but until now I win more sessions than lose.
At the end of week, or end of the month(s), you will see the correct result,
not with a few tests.
Cheers
Quote from: Kingspin on Aug 31, 01:08 PM 2010
You were just lucky twister. Try it when the wheel is in a bad mood .
Yes, I accept you could be correct :thumbsup:
Okkkk here is my 2nd Real Money Session
VL
3
16 W +24
13 W +48
1 W +72
15 L +60
31 W +84
36 W +108
Target was +/- 100 Give or take 10%
Target Acieved +108 Units :thumbsup:
Yes. Another short session, but that is how it happened. Nothing added, Nothing taken away.
Just FYI Katt my Internet is playing up....... :'( I can only connect using a slow connection so cant play at the moment :'( Will resume once my service is back up and running 100%
Please keep us updated on your progress !
Cheers :thumbsup:
Ok, Twisteruk !
I am not sure what trigger you use and if you play virtual, so
again remember this is the safer way:
Use Trigger the virtual win(Ex: AA), than start to bet,
But don't forget to play virtual, until you are up around +24 Virtual,
than start real play, see tweaks and also see the last 15 sessions
how I play.
Make your own target to win , and your own stop-loss
if you wish.
Cheers
Quote from: Kattila on Sep 01, 04:39 AM 2010
Ok, Twisteruk !
I am not sure what trigger you use and if you play virtual, so
again remember this is the safer way:
Use Trigger the virtual win(Ex: AA), than start to bet,
But don't forget to play virtual, until you are up around +24 Virtual,
than start real play, see tweaks and also see the last 15 sessions
how I play.
Make your own target to win , and your own stop-loss
if you wish.
Cheers
I have to be honest Katt I dont play it that way
I wait for 3 VL's and then jump in
Thats how I tested your numbers and so far its all good :thumbsup:
I will re read everythin on this thread to see if I need to make tweeks but cant for now as it would take too long with my current crappy connection :'(
Can I ask, what is your opinion for not playing until +24 V ?
Why +24 ?
I see that as lost Profit
But hey ive not been testing this as long as you !
Hopefully I can continue soon :)
Cheers :thumbsup:
I made a lot of test not only what I have posted.
The first way , after 3LLL wait 3-5 spins than bet,
good results, but not so safe because can cath you a long
LLL...LLL...LLL...LLL... streak. Also can win right away in a few spins
more than 100 units(you already know that).
You can avoid that long/short LLL...streaks with :
The second way , much more safer I already told you above,
also see full final system at page 9/ reply 130.
So my advice to you is play this way ,because you will win much more
session than lose.
Ouote:
*Can I ask, what is your opinion for not playing until +24 V ?
Why +24 ?
I see that as lost Profit *
*what is your opinion for not playing until +24 V ?*
If enter directly on real play ,you
can cath (after that 3LLL s) a long LLL...LLL...streak
*Why +24 ?* (or also +36)
Because in that moment tend to go up.
Because you have to go with the trend (tendency).
Play virtual until tend to go up (you avoid some LLL s)
AND also you can enter real play at (only example) around -150 virtual.
So situation: you are -150 virtual and now go *up* at -100 virtual.
It s time to play real, because tend to go up. Clear ?
*I see that as lost Profit *
Yes but avoid a lot of LLLs....
I can explain you better, sorry.
Better follow that way I described at page 9/ reply 130,
and see the last 15 sessions.
Cheers.
Yes that's very clear Katt, thank you :thumbsup:
I will also re read your comments on Page 9 :)
Cheers !
Katt
Ive re read everything and I agree with your findings. VP until +24 is best.
I looked at all your tests and VP saved you a heap of loss eh ? Cool ! :thumbsup:
When Im able to play again I will playing VB +24 VB -72
Yes you miss some Profit, but you save more on the LLL 's
Hope you continue to post your Real Results Katt !!!
Can I ask ? What Casino do you play at ? PM me if you prefer to keep it Private :)
Cheers :thumbsup:
I tried this method on line at live wheel, it's very hit and miss . Long long sessions needed to play it too.
Looks good on paper but when you play this method you can lose easily 120 chips straight away........
Why not just wait for a group not to repeat about 5 or 6 times then play a long progression betting the last group to repeat.
Quote from: Kingspin on Sep 02, 05:39 AM 2010
Looks good on paper but when you play this method you can lose easily 120 chips straight away........
I think thats why Katt plays VP :thumbsup:
Did you try it that way ?
The 2 times ive played with real money, i didnt play it that way either. But after reading Katt's data with regard to spin data on VP etc, its definately the way to go imo !
This is quote from my first post:
2A.
Wait groups without repeats in the last 7-8 spins,
Ex: BCABCBCA... bet now the last to repeat with progression.
Progresion, start from 0,10 cents :
1. 0,10 x 12 -1,2 +2,4
2. 0,10 x 12 -2,4 +1,2
3. 0,20 x 12 -4,8 +2,4
4. 0,30 x 12 - 8,4 +2,4
5. 0,40 x 12 -13,2 +1,2
6. 0,60 x 12 -20,4 +1,2
7. 1 x 12 -32,4 +3,6
8. 1,40 x 12 -49,2 +1,2 stop-loss at -50
9. 2,20 x12 - 75,6 +3,6 stop-loss at -75
Quote:
*Looks good on paper but when you play this method you can lose easily 120 chips straight away.....*
Right , also can win easily 120 units straighy away....
AND if you play first virtual can avoid that lose, of corse when enter for real
still can lose that -72(first stop lose) or -120 (second stop lose), BUT please play
(or test) much more sessions(like me) than i am sure you will have another
opinion.
I am putting a bankroll up this week to play for real money , win or lose I will post the profits or losses. Thank you for the system kattila and thanks twister for your tests..
Kattila are you actually playing this system for real and making real money from this or is just a theoretical "on paper system". ???
Looking at the tests i have seen it looks to me that at times we may be sat for over an hour just tracking and not placing any bets. Maybe not everyones cup of tea...
Quote from: Kingspin on Sep 02, 03:43 PM 2010
I am putting a bankroll up this week to play for real money , win or lose I will post the profits or losses. Thank you for the system kattila and thanks twister for your tests..
Kattila are you actually playing this system for real and making real money from this or is just a theoretical "on paper system". ???
Looking at the tests I have seen it looks to me that at times we may be sat for over an hour just tracking and not placing any bets. Maybe not everyones cup of tea...
**** Please note MY tests are VERY small****This is due to probs with my connection
I hope to resume soon.
The results I posted were with real money BUT lookin at Katt's Stats
I got Lucky.
VP is VITAL for this to work
I have no idea if it will hold up medium term let alone long term
But I will resume with Real Money when Im connected back at a high enough speed (very frustrating !!!)
Please keep us posted with your reults, and my advice is do the VP without doubt
Hope Katt continues to post results too !
Cheers :thumbsup:
Katt
I meant to ask you before but I forgot !
When you list the groups, sometimes you seperate a number with a / instead of a ,
What does this mean ?
Soz if its obvious and I missed it !
Cheers :thumbsup:
Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 03, 08:01 AM 2010
Katt
I meant to ask you before but I forgot !
When you list the groups, sometimes you seperate a number with a / instead of a ,
What does this mean ?
sorry if its obvious and I missed it !
Cheers :thumbsup:
That / just separate the 3 little groups each one have 4 numbers, and
if you look at the roulette wheel you will see this groups of 4
from the same A(or B, or C) group are at the same distance one from other.
It is more to say about that, but maybe another day.
Kingspin, as I said before I play for real using sometimes 0,20
per number, and sometimes 0,50 per number.
If you will play for real please re-read the rules/tweaks from page 9/reply 130.
I know sometimes you will have to wait for start the real play, but this is
how this work.
Now (for not wait long time) I give to all this others three set of groups,
which also works good ,like the first set of groups (A,B,C).
So finaly the 12 numbers are not so important, important is the distance
between the groups.
Also I attach a Excel file, a tracker for each number for each set of groups.
European wheel
First Groups (already know this one) , 0 is out
A. 32,15,19,4/36,11,30,8/14,31,9,22
B. 21,2,25,17/23,10,5,24/ 18,29,7,28
C. 34,6,27,13/16,33,1,20/12,35,3,26
Second Groups
The number 32 is out( the 32 is the 0 in this case)
A. 15,19,4,21/11,30,8,23/31,9,22,18
B. 2,25,17,34/10,5,24,16/29,7,28,12
C. 6,27,13,36/33,1,20,14/35,3,26,0
Third Groups(number 15 out = 0)
A. 19,4,21,2/30,8,23,10/9,22,18,29
B. 25,17,34,6/5,24,16,33/7,28,12,35
C. 27,13,36,11/1,20,14,31/3,26,0,32
Fourth groups (number 19 out = 0)
A. 4,21,2,25/8,23,10,5/22,18,29,7
B. 17,34,6,27/24,16,33,1/28,12,35,3
C. 13,36,11,30/20,14,31,9/26,0,32,15
Tracking all this together , after a while you can *see*
which tend to go down, and which tend to go up .
I mean if you have to wait long time for play real
on one set of groups(ABC), for sure at least one from the
others 3 sets of groups are Qualyfied for real play, or will
be soon.
Track all is easy, choose one is more difficult.
You have more options:
1. Track and play only the first set , or only one set (any).
2. Track all sets , than :
Example:
Nr. GR1 GR2 GR3 GR4
.
.
.
.
12 c b b b virtual
22 a a a a
18 b a a a virtual trigger
25 b b b a +24 real trigger
9 a a a c +12
13 c c c c +36 also this can be real trigg.
See group 4 is qualyfied for real play,
because if you play virtual , are + 24(or +36) virtual
start real play.
I others words , if after short/long series like Ex: abbcbacbccbabcaabc
you see (from any set) triggers AAA, or BBB, or CCC or
AAACC, BBCCC, CCCAA, BBAAA, etc..... Is time to bet for real that
set of groups.
If you think is to complicated just track/play the first one (Gr 1 )
but with the rules / tweaks from page 9 / reply 130.
Anyway to win have to apply that rules / tweaks.
Cheers.
Thats excellent Katt, thank you
The Four Groups looks interesting for sure !
Im about to Test with Fun Free Chips on a Live Wheel, I will post my Results here for you to see
Cheers :thumbsup:
Quote from: Kattila on Sep 03, 11:23 AM 2010
Example:
Nr. GR1 GR2 GR3 GR4
.
.
.
.
12 c b b b virtual
22 a a a a
18 b a a a virtual trigger
25 b b b a +24 real trigger
9 a a a c +12
13 c c c c +36 also this can be real trigg.
How Is This a Trigger ? You would not know to bet on Group 4 c UNTIL No13 hit ? Would you not still be betting Group 4 a ? Can you clarifie please Katt, thanks ?
See group 4 is qualyfied for real play,
because if you play virtual , are + 24(or +36) virtual
start real play.
I others words , if after short/long series like Ex: abbcbacbccbabcaabc
you see (from any set) triggers AAA, or BBB, or CCC or
AAACC, BBCCC, CCCAA, BBAAA, etc..... Is time to bet for real that
set of groups.
If you think is to complicated just track/play the first one (Gr 1 )
but with the rules / tweaks from page 9 / reply 130.
Anyway to win have to apply that rules / tweaks.
Cheers.
1. aaa trigger, bet now
2. also can wait aaacc trigger, than bet
a
a virtual trigger,bet virtual
a +24, real trigger , bet real now
or
a
a virtual trigger
a +24 still virtual
c +12
c +36 Trigger, bet real
i told you +24 or +36 virtual than bet
Just played for an hour or two but never got a Trigger, was getting numbers like these.....
9
7
26
17
36
19
24
32
28
17
25
32
10
and it went on like that !
That is correct yes, no Triggers ?
Will play again later or 2morrow !
Cheers :thumbsup:
Triggers don't mean any thing to the wheel twister.
When the ball is spinning and tumbling like a maniak down to the 37 numbers triggers are the nothing , all triggers do is cost you betting chances. You are introducing time delay that's all.
Personally i like betting every spin , the methods with all the waiting do absolutely nothing to increase your chances of a hit.
:-X
In some respects I agree with you, but not in this case
Katt now has 4 Groups of numbers
2 hits in One Group (AA BB CC) are a VT and followed by a 3rd hit (AAA BBB CCC) is RP
That's how I understand it anyway, is correct Katt ? :thumbsup:
Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 03, 02:26 PM 2010
Just played for an hour or two but never got a Trigger, was getting numbers like these.....
9
7
26
17
36
19
24
32
28
17
25
32
10
and it went on like that !
That is correct yes, no Triggers ?
Will play again later or 2morrow !
Cheers :thumbsup:
9 a a a c
7 b b b a
26 c c c c
17 b b b b
36 a c c c
19 a a a 0
24 b b b b
32 a 0 c c
28 b b b b
17 b b b b
25 b b b a you have triggers here bbb on 3 groups
32 a 0 c c start bet on any from that 3 groups
10 b b a a
b
b virtual trigger
b +24 virtual , +24 is real play trigger, bet now
Depending what numbers comes after this you could
lose and stop at -72, or win your target.
Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 03, 03:57 PM 2010
In some respects I agree with you, but not in this case
Katt now has 4 Groups of numbers
2 hits in One Group (AA BB CC) are a VT and followed by a 3rd hit (AAA BBB CCC) is RP
That's how I understand it anyway, is correct Katt ? :thumbsup:
Correct, and from that moment you have to follow the system rules/tweaks.
Also this triggers are valid if you choose to wait trigger +36.
BBAAA, CCBBB, AAABB, CCCAA...etc.. Why?
Ex:
b
b virtual trigger
a -12
a +12
a +36 trigger for real play
And
c
c virtual trigger
c +24 virtual
a +12
a +36 trigger for real play
So, Triggers :
1.
+24 (Ex: AAA) and +36 (EX: BBAAA, CCCBB) are triggers for real play
because the bankroll TEND to go up after a short or long losing streak.
2.
When you play virtual and you are losing virtual,
but now the bankroll tend to go up (Ex. from -120 to -72) is time
to bet for real .
ABCACBCAACBBCACCACBACBBACAAABBB...bet now
Quote from: Kingspin on Sep 03, 03:49 PM 2010
Triggers don't mean any thing to the wheel twister.
When the ball is spinning and tumbling like a maniak down to the 37 numbers triggers are the nothing , all triggers do is cost you betting chances. You are introducing time delay that's all.
Personally I like betting every spin , the methods with all the waiting do absolutely nothing to increase your chances of a hit.
:-X
Talking about this method you are
Wrong , because waiting virtual the triggers you avoid a lot of losses,
of course after the trigger still can lose, for that one we have stop lose.
If you bet every spin for sure will lose more than win in this system.
What I am betting is an event that happening all the time,
it is about this one:
If you look where land the ball after each last number spun,
you will notice that will hit sometimes at 30 degrees from the last number,
sometimes at 45 degrees from the last number...and so on....any degree/angle
and can be left side or right side from that last number.
Sometimes angles will appear in streaks,this is what i *hunt* Example:
Nr
32
36 around 120 degrees from 32
4 around 90 degrees from 36
9 around 120 degres from 4
31 neighbors
8 around 90 degrees from 31
This is an example of one winning streak AAAAAA when this
angles hit.
This is why i choose that groups at an certain distance
one from others.
This is my way to see the roulette game.(not the only one).
Cheers.
Quote from: Kattila on Sep 03, 06:26 PM 2010
9 a a a c
7 b b b a
26 c c c c
17 b b b b
36 a c c c
19 a a a 0
24 b b b b
32 a 0 c c
28 b b b b
17 b b b b
25 b b b a you have triggers here bbb on 3 groups
32 a 0 c c start bet on any from that 3 groups
10 b b a a
b
b virtual trigger
b +24 virtual , +24 is real play trigger, bet now
Depending what numbers comes after this you could
lose and stop at -72, or win your target.
Katt
How would you know which of the 3 Groups to bet on, given that senario ?
What would you of chosen, and why please ?
As I chose not to play with 3 Groups showing.
thanks for your opinion :thumbsup:
I would choose that group which have the most doubles AA or BB or CC s before
that BBB s, in this case choose group 1
So, bet the most Hot.
cheers
Ah !
Very clear, thanx Katt :thumbsup:
Will test all day today as have a free day, will post later what happened !
Hope you post some more Katt with your experience's !!
Cheers :thumbsup:
Katt
Well I've been testing for around 6hrs now (ish)
I've found Group 2 and Group 4 Never win for me (so far), as in never show a Profit.They hit their VT and RPT, AAABB AAACC BBBCC etc etc but then always LLL or LWLLL or LLWLLL etc etc
Group 3 is a little better
I'm going for lunch then I'm gonna go back to just Group 1 and test some more. Out of all my Wins today most came from Group 1
Have you any more results re all Four Groups Katt ?
Cheers :thumbsup:
Yes stay with the Group 1 for now, the 90% from my test and play
is with that group !, sometimes i do use the others to, for example
when Group 1 tend to go down and at the same time other group
tend to go up(Ex: you see AAABBB or BBCCAA..etc..) i swich to
that group.
Stay with Group 1 , use the system rules and tweaks , triggers (+24)
and also keep tracking the others groups to see how they works.
I find they works good, same like Gr 1, but for sure they needs more tests.
Cheers.
Hi
Continued to watch all 4 Groups, as you say its easy to watch the 4 so you may as well instead of just Group 1
I played another 2hrs (ish) and ended up +96 Units
It was Group 3 that finally came through ! Biggest DD was -24
Its quite amazing, you go for like 10 spins and nothing is happening then you get 2 or 3 Groups hit and have to choose the "hottest"
I've found if on Spin 1 you have not made the correct choice DON'T wait for spin 2 and 3 but SWITCH to the other "hot" Group
I've found its best to skip btwn the Groups Katt when one gets "hotter" than another, even if you are mid 3 bet cycle. Any thoughts ?
Cheers :thumbsup:
I told you,bet the most hot. Hot= tendency for bankroll to go Up
Yep ya did, but I meant mid betting cycle
Just gonna have some dinna and test another 2hrs
Katt do you ever find Group 4c to be a constant loser ? It may hit its VPT and then its RPT but it always goes on to LLL or similar I find....... but ive not tested as much as you so maybe in the longer term it will level out !
Cheers :thumbsup:
Twister,
The only one group tested seriously(before i play it for real) was
group 1, but i belive the others three groups(2,3 and 4) have the Same
Chances like the group 1, they are on the same position and distance
on the roulette wheel, like the first group.
About jumping from one group (when works bad) to other one
which is hot, I do play like that sometimes, but we never know what is next, right?
Could jump into a good or bad session. But we have the stop-loss
for the bad session.
This jumping need more tests.
I play first groups, GR. 1 (using rules/tweaks from page 9/ reply 130),
and when i have to wait long for the triggers(see down)
and not appear , I swich to other group which is hot, and play that group.
Triggers:
1. +24 (or +36) virtual, bet now
2. around -150 virtual, than tend to go up (ex: to -96 virtual) , bet now
Cheers
Quote from: Kattila on Sep 04, 07:37 PM 2010
Twister,
The only one group tested seriously(before I play it for real) was
group 1, but I belive the others three groups(2,3 and 4) have the Same
Chances like the group 1, they are on the same position and distance
on the roulette wheel, like the first group.
About jumping from one group (when works bad) to other one
which is hot, I do play like that sometimes, but we never know what is next, right?
Could jump into a good or bad session. But we have the stop-loss
for the bad session.
This jumping need more tests.
I play first groups, GR. 1 (using rules/tweaks from page 9/ reply 130),
and when I have to wait long for the triggers(see down)
and not appear , I swich to other group which is hot, and play that group.
Triggers:
1. +24 (or +36) virtual, bet now
2. around -150 virtual, than tend to go up (ex: to -96 virtual) , bet now
Cheers
Yep I nodded to all of that !
I am going to do more testing today :)
Thanx for your opinion Katt :thumbsup:
Just done my First Test of the day :thumbsup:
I did switch btwn Groups mid bet when I was L or LL if another Group was gettin Hott
28 Spins and ended up +96 Units
Biggest DD was -36
This was using Free Fun Chips BUT on a Real Wheel (as always) as want to Test the Switching Method more before usin Real Money.
Cheers :thumbsup:
I am tired to do the tests(i made a lot with GR1) also do not have time right now.
Hope testing this jumping method from one to other hot group, give to you
good results, same as playing Gr1 for real.
Cheers.
Thats ok Katt, I appreciate all the test you have done so far !
If in the future you can post the odd result from time to time when you have played for Real that would be great ! Even if you only post the Numbers and point out at which points you jumped Groups......I will be able to see just from that how you got on
Hope you continue to Profit well too :)
Cheers :thumbsup:
session played yesterday
hard one
Group 1
36 a virtual
14 a trigger
10 b l1 -12
2 b l2 -24
28 b w 0
18 b w +24 trigger real play
8 a l1 -12
22 a w +12
1 c l1 0
32 a l2 -12
21 b l3 -24 wait
11 a
5 b
32 a
4 a trigger , bet
33 c l1 -36
18 b l2 -48
19 a l3 -60 wait
32 a trigger
8 a w -36
21 b l1 -48
16 c l2 -60
8 a l3 -72 Stop at -72, play Virtual now
15 c ( -72 is the first stop lose)
34 c trigger (the second is -120)
25 b l1 -84
19 a l2 -96
25 b l3 -108 wait
19 a
22 a trigger
20 c l1 -120
5 b l2 -132
15 a l3 -144 wait
1 c
9 a
20 c
27 b
2 b trigger
33 c l1 -156
24 b l2 -168
33 c l3 -180 wait
25 b
21 b trigger
36 a l1 -192
31 a w -168
31 a w -144
4 a w -120 Here i enter Real again from -72
31 a w -48
10 b l1 -60
30 a l2 -72
34 c l3 -84 wait
22 a
21 b
4 a
23 b
27 c
11 a
9 a trigger
0 l1 -96 stop at 0, wait trigger
4 a
21 b
35 c
30 a
1 c
16 c trigger
12 c w -72
15 a l1 -84
34 c l2 -96
33 c w -72
31 a l1 -84
19 a w -60
1 c l1 -72
11 a l2 -84
30 a w -60
12 c l1 -72
6 c w -48
8 a l1 -60
11 a w -36
36 a w -12
12 c l1 -24
28 b l2 -36
23 b w -12
30 a l1 -24
22 a w 0
22 a w +24
32 c l1 +12
36 a l2 0
18 b l3 -12 wait
3 c
1 c trigger
10 b l1 -24
35 c l2 -36
1 c w -12
33 c w +12
26 c w +36 I Stoped here at +36
0 this was the next number
Another important thing when we are playing for real:
When start real start with a lower amount (ex: 0,20 or 0,50 per number)
If now tend to go up swich to a higher amount (1 per number).
If tend to go down stay on 0,20 until tend again to go up and swich to 1
or 0,50 per number.
If tend to go down , we even can stop take the lose (a few units)
and play virtual until tent to go up again.
Go with the trend, and swich the amount up and down.
Cheers
Wow thats a long hard session for sure !
+36 is still good mind
Thanx for the continued updates Katt :thumbsup:
Personally AT 190 down I would be dumping the system for a new method.
I don't think most people would find this an attractive system in a real casino.
Don't get me wrong katilla I am not saying the system is no good just that it looks a boring method for the aggressive or even average players......
Maybe the online player with tons of patience will like this..
-190 was only on VP
But I tend to agree, its better suited to Online Play imo :)
Quote from: Kingspin on Sep 06, 03:38 PM 2010
Personally AT 190 down I would be dumping the system for a new method.
I don't think most people would find this an attractive system in a real casino.
Don't get me wrong katilla I am not saying the system is no good just that it looks a boring method for the aggressive or even average players......
Maybe the online player with tons of patience will like this..
Nothing wrong Kingspin, you are free to speak.
Btw : I am a Online Player with tons of patience...yes
Nobody forces nobody to play this method, don t even
read if you don t like this method (FLAT BET +virtual play +patience= money)
And also I have systems for * the aggressive players* to.
Cheers
If someone need this method, here is the complete method , also some
aditional information.
WBG method (wheel based groups)
12 numbers/3 groups , numbers 0 is out
European wheel
A. 32,15,19,4/36,11,30,8/14,31,9,22
B. 21,2,25,17/23,10,5,24/ 18,29,7,28
C. 34,6,27,13/16,33,1,20/12,35,3,26
American wheel
A. 28,9,30,11,15,3,24,36,19,31,18,6
B. 11,7,20,32,13,1,27,10,21,33,16,4
C. 17,5,22,34,25,29,12,8,23,35,14,2
This groups tend to go in series like AABBBACCBBBAACCBCCCCCCBAABBBBB
most of the time (not allways), but enough to win more than loss.
Because of the distance between numbers and groups.
How to play, and rules :
Bet only flat bet 3 times (1,1,1), 1 euro/$ per number , 12 numbers ( one group)
Also can start from 0,20 per number, or 0,50.
First wait trigger AA or BB or CC, than start to bet the last group spun.
Allways bet the last group, so bet the last group to repeat.
After three losses L1, L2, L3 , wait the new trigger AA or BB or CC, than bet
the last group to repeat
When appear 0 stop game , and wait new trigger.
stop-loss at -120 euro /$, my personal stop-loss, you can change it.
Stop win when you reached your target ( +72, or +120, or even +300 or more)
You will find some freaky sessions , like -84 , -96, or even -120 ( stop-loss, lost session)
but will win more sessions than loss.
My HUMAN DECISION ( tweaks):
First before play, play virtual and enter game only
when see the things go good.
Start real play only when you are up virtual +24, +36.
For Bad sessions.
When we see is going down -72,-84(for real), stop and play virtual,and :
- if goes down again Virtual from -72 at -120 or more ,can End session at -72, Or :
- if goes down Virtual until -120 or more, but than Tend to go up, enter real play from that -72, and
If still lose ,we stop at the second stop-lose -120 (real), and if Win try at least to stop at -36, -24, 0.
For Good sessions:
When we reached +120 ( +150),stop and start play virtual, but:
- if go down virtual , wait until tend to go up ,and Bet again, now if go down
again stop at +96, +84(+120) End session.
- if go up virtual , bet again for real ,now if go up good (stop when you whant, ex.+204),
but if after go up virtual from +120 to ex: +168 , start real play, but if we lose from
+120 real until +84, +96 , end session.
Another important thing when we are playing for real:
When start real , can start with a lower amount (ex: 0,20 or 0,50 per number)
If now tend to go up swich to a higher amount ,1 per number.
If tend to go down stay on 0,20 until tend again to go up and swich to 1
or 0,50 per number. Or:
If tend to go down , we even can stop , take the lose (a few units, because we bet 0,20)
and play virtual until tent to go up again, than bet 1 per number.
Go with the trend, and swich the amount up and down.
Adicional information:
Now (for not wait/track long time) I give to all this others three set of groups,
which also works good ,like the first set of groups (A,B,C).
So finaly the 12 numbers are not so important, important is the distance
between the groups.
Also I attach a Excel file, a tracker for each number for each set of groups.
European wheel
First Groups (already know this one) , 0 is out
A. 32,15,19,4/36,11,30,8/14,31,9,22
B. 21,2,25,17/23,10,5,24/ 18,29,7,28
C. 34,6,27,13/16,33,1,20/12,35,3,26
Second Groups
The number 32 is out( the 32 is the 0 in this case)
A. 15,19,4,21/11,30,8,23/31,9,22,18
B. 2,25,17,34/10,5,24,16/29,7,28,12
C. 6,27,13,36/33,1,20,14/35,3,26,0
Third Groups(number 15 out = 0)
A. 19,4,21,2/30,8,23,10/9,22,18,29
B. 25,17,34,6/5,24,16,33/7,28,12,35
C. 27,13,36,11/1,20,14,31/3,26,0,32
Fourth groups (number 19 out = 0)
A. 4,21,2,25/8,23,10,5/22,18,29,7
B. 17,34,6,27/24,16,33,1/28,12,35,3
C. 13,36,11,30/20,14,31,9/26,0,32,15
Tracking all this together , after a while you can *see*
which tend to go down, and which tend to go up .
I mean if you have to wait long time for play real
on one set of groups(ABC), for sure at least one from the
others 3 sets of groups are Qualyfied for real play, or will
be soon, because become hot(Ex: series AAABBB, or CCBBB...etc...)
Also can swich from a group which tend to go down ,
to another one which tend to go up (hot group).
Cheers.
Just had another good session with this System Katt :thumbsup:
Played around 90 spins
Used the 4 Group Switch Method and ended up +96
Ive found its sometimes best to Switch even after one L if another Group is streaking, but not always lol ! Like you say we never know whats coming :D
Cheers :thumbsup:
Glad to hear that you still have good results with this system , the true is
I'm not too surprised. ;)
Example session using all rules /tweaks + the amount swich.
This way reduce the losses and enter real play when is hot.
Go with the trend .
Only Group 1
4 a virtual
29 b
34 c
19 a
17 b
13 c
12 c trigger
33 c +24 virtual ,start REAL, bet from 0,20/number
33 c w +4,8
0 - L1 +2,4 wait
27 c
24 b
19 a
12 c
11 a
11 a trigger
8 a w +4,8 Tend to go up , so
4 a w +7,2 swich to 1 per number
29 b l1 -4,8
2 b w +19,2
32 a l1 +7,2
35 c l2 -4,8
11 a l3 -16,8 wait, Tend to go down so swich to 0,20
26 c
10 b
1 c
35 c trigger
13 c w -12
8 a l1 -14,4
31 a w -9,6
20 c l1 -12
23 b l2 -14,4
11 a l3 -16,8 wait
34 c
9 a
7 b
35 c
30 a
12 c
8 a
2 b
20 c
11 a
36 a trigger
28 b l1 -9,6
26 c l2 -12
25 b l3 -14,4 wait
3 c
24 b
9 a
25 b
27 b trigger
11 a l1 -16,8
20 c l2 -19,2
9 a l3 -21,6 wait , Stop real play, start Virtual
30 a trigger , now wait tendency to go up
21 c l1
32 a l2
27 c l3 wait
15 c trigger
26 c w
19 a l1
33 c l2
18 b l3 wait
2 b trigger
14 a l1
24 b l2
6 c l3 wait
34 c trigger
17 b l1
22 b w
29 b w Hot,see CCBBB, Start Real play from that(-21,6) bet 1/number
36 a l1 -33,6
9 a w -9,6
22 a w +14,4
8 a w +38,4
15 c l1 +26,4
26 c w +50,4
1 c w +74,4
25 b l1 +62,4
6 c l2 +50,4
15 c w +74,4
Stop real play at +74,4
Cheers
Ive not played it with MM before, just Flat.
I will play a 4 Group Switch Session later today and use the MM you suggest :thumbsup:
Had a go with progression, didnt go so well. Each time I switched I hit a L most times (happens)
Think I prefer it Flat tbh Katt
But I will try again 2moz :thumbsup:
Yes, my first advice is play Flat Bet / MM this method.
But if you want to play with progression ,could play like this:
1.
Wait groups without repeats in the last 7-8 spins,
Ex: BCABCBCA... bet now the last to repeat.
Progresion(not high), start from 0,10 cents :
1. 0,10 x 12 -1,2 +2,4
2. 0,10 x 12 -2,4 +1,2
3. 0,20 x 12 -4,8 +2,4
4. 0,30 x 12 - 8,4 +2,4
5. 0,40 x 12 -13,2 +1,2
6. 0,60 x 12 -20,4 +1,2
7. 1 x 12 -32,4 +3,6
8. 1,40 x 12 -49,2 +1,2 stop-loss at -50
9. 2,20 x12 - 75,6 +3,6 stop-loss at -75
2. Wait series like ABCCAABCA , than bet the penultimate group.
Ex:
A
B
C
A
A
B bet A penultimate
B lose, bet B penultimate
C lose , bet B
A lose , bet C
C win, wait again
C
B
A
A
B
C bet B
C bet C
C win
Same progression for 12 numbers.
Cheers.
I still play this method,
Flat bet WBG swich method/ bet the last to repeat.
Triggers aacc, bbaaââ,¬Â¦etcââ,¬Â¦Or aaa, bbb, ccc, Or aaacc, cccbbââ,¬Â¦etcââ,¬Â¦
At 3 LLLs stop wait new trigger
Reset / wait new trigger at new profit around +10ââ,¬Â¦+20
stop-loss around -70(-100) , target +70...+100.
Anytime can swich to a hotest group.
Another session (real play yesterday).
Same rules and stop-loss around -70.
Also can play this method with a middle progression(see above)
bet the last to repeat( can choose from the four set of groups/track all).
I still hope someone will (at least ) test this method
because I have good results until now(fun play and some real play).
I know is not a 100% mechanical method, and maybe not a long term
winner , so any help to test is welcome. :)
What really interests me is if you guys will have same results, same
good streaks, testing from different casinos.
All groups are on reply 182 this page, also the excel file.
Thanks.
Kattila,
Okay, okay already.
I'm convinced that this is a system worth putting in the time to learn and test with you.
Your spreadsheets look too good to be true. I'm not saying I think they're fake, since I trust you implicitly. Just that those are very good wins for so few spins.
Sometimes when a system starts out like yours where you have to create different groups that aren't normal, it causes people to shy away because they feel they will have to invest too much time and then if it bombs, it's frustrating.
Thanks for hanging in there with us and not letting this one die.
Flatbetting is always a plus. Although having to bet 12 units sometimes doesn't feel like flatbetting.
I will start studying later today and maybe be able to post a test result tonight.
Cheers mate,
George
One of the most underrated method ever created
I AGREE 100%...............................