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Title: Past numbers mean NOTHING? Part 2
Post by: MrJ on Jan 27, 06:10 PM 2011
I thought of this while reading at another board. Its a GREAT question to ponder. Some won't answer because of feelings, they may sound inconsistent with previous or future postings. No worries, its not a contest guys. Hot numbers? Cold numbers? Most claim they mean nothing, perhaps.


>>>> I'll track the last 350 numbers but I will especially look at the last 25 that hit.

I will pick 5 numbers for you, I will go ALL THE WAY back and find 5 that have not hit, those are your 5. (its all flat betting)

I will pick 5 for myself, choosing 5 that have hit twice within the last 25 spins. I'll even UP the question. Within those 25, no numbers have three hits on them YET.

Is this still fair? Remember, no more RACE for a number to have three hits on it like I had asked a few months back. We are both starting out 0-0 with 13 spins left (38 total). We would do this over hundreds of trials.

At the end, we should finish around the same, correct? Not spot on perfect but around the same? This is not a challenge in any form but only a question. People can not have it both ways with their view regarding PAST numbers mean nothing. BTW, no, its not a tilted wheel, lol.

Well.....thoughts?

Ken
Title: Re: Past numbers mean NOTHING? Part 2
Post by: GLC on Jan 27, 10:35 PM 2011
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Title: Re: Past numbers mean NOTHING? Part 2
Post by: MrJ on Jan 27, 10:52 PM 2011
When I get to it.
Title: Re: Past numbers mean NOTHING? Part 2
Post by: Bayes on Jan 28, 03:09 AM 2011
Quote from: MrJ on Jan 27, 06:10 PM 2011
At the end, we should finish around the same, correct? Not spot on perfect but around the same?

I would say yes.  :-\

Ken, is this a test you've already done?
Title: Re: Past numbers mean NOTHING? Part 2
Post by: MrJ on Jan 28, 04:57 AM 2011
No but I would bet my nutsack that I'm right. This has little to do with creating a method.


The question is really only for those who feel that past numbers are useless. If you dont feel they are useless, no real need to answer.

Ken

Title: Re: Past numbers mean NOTHING? Part 2
Post by: Bayes on Jan 28, 05:04 AM 2011
Quote from: MrJ on Jan 28, 04:57 AM 2011
No but I would bet my nutsack that I'm right.

Ken, not sure if you were making a claim in your first post - right about what? about you winning? or that results will be the same?
Title: Re: Past numbers mean NOTHING? Part 2
Post by: MrJ on Jan 28, 05:09 AM 2011
My point is that overall results would not be the same. Taking 5 of the furthest back hit numbers vs. (my choice) 5 numbers with 2 hits within 25 previous recorded numbers. If past numbers are suppose to mean NOTHING for future betting (gamblers fallacy), I would be wrong, correct?

Ken
Title: Re: Past numbers mean NOTHING? Part 2
Post by: ophis on Jan 28, 05:55 AM 2011
If result are different it only means that you havent tested it though enough amount of spins.

No body said there have to be equal amount of red//black after 36 or 360 or 10000 or even more. But they will ocasionally. You choose 2 sets of 5number and results will be equal after enough amount of spins.
Title: Re: Past numbers mean NOTHING? Part 2
Post by: GLC on Jan 28, 09:35 PM 2011
I think our real dilemma is that no matter how many times we test this, if we get a good result we don't know if we just had a favorable run of numbers even if it's for thousands of spins and if we have a bad result, it could really win over the long run, but we had a bad series of spins.

Then, if we write a program and run it through 10,000,000 spins, they all tend to fail.  That's why the math guys are so c***y about their position.

Given the lack of absolute certainty one way or the other, we have to decide which way we are going to go, and once decided we must live like a warrior.  Of course a warrior is always open to changing course if circumstances warrant it.

George